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Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilitation for an

year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though many

have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

totally get the concept!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

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dear friend,

 

neither

Mars is exalted in capricorn.

the experts will explain the rest

DIVINE LIGHT

rhoda

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In vedic astrology , " serenity_forever4 "

<serenity_forever4 wrote:

>

> Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilitation for an

> year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though many

> have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> totally get the concept!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

>

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thanks rhoda, I was able to search accurately based on your response and I got

my answers.

 

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, Rhoda Reporter <rhodes10 wrote:

 

Rhoda Reporter <rhodes10

[vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

vedic astrology

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:36 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

dear friend,

 

neither

Mars is exalted in capricorn.

the experts will explain the rest

DIVINE LIGHT

rhoda

 

-- In vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

<serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion for an

> year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though many

> have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

>

> Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Serenity,

When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

" Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is known as

" Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in this

order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo,Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

it is called " Swastha " or stable.

Like our own room is the best place in the world.

I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

it here...

Mesh

In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

" Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive properties

& ego. The motto of this cardinal sign – " Change is the only constant! " .

Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616; i.e. the

first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition to a

planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this place

to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it indicates the

aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

dependent on his commander-in-chief, than his minister.

Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the first 3

Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

" inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

everything with all round ego. It is practical—sees everything

practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

for the outcome.

So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

" Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this sign i.e.

where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he crosses

the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on " meditation " . Ketu

indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu tries

to deliver.

 

This came from the " thoughts " ...as a great poet of the yesteryears

said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

Thank you,

.

http://gauravastro.150m.com

 

 

vedic astrology , " serenity_forever4 "

<serenity_forever4 wrote:

>

> Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilitation for an

> year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though many

> have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> totally get the concept!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

>

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That's a wonderful explanation, thanks Gaurav. One more question, I have Jupiter

in Capricorn, I know it's debilitated. But do not know the harm/negative results

it causes in such a scenario. Could you tell me?

 

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

 

<gaurav.ghosh

[vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

vedic astrology

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

||Jai Ramakrishna| |

Dear Serenity,

When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

" Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is known as

" Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in this

order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo, Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

it is called " Swastha " or stable.

Like our own room is the best place in the world.

I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

it here...

Mesh

In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

" Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive properties

& ego. The motto of this cardinal sign – " Change is the only constant! " .

Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616; i.e. the

first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition to a

planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this place

to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it indicates the

aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

dependent on his commander-in- chief, than his minister.

Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the first 3

Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

" inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

everything with all round ego. It is practical—sees everything

practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

for the outcome.

So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

" Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this sign i.e.

where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he crosses

the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on " meditation " . Ketu

indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu tries

to deliver.

 

This came from the " thoughts " .. .as a great poet of the yesteryears

said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

Thank you,

.

http://gauravastro. 150m.com

 

vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

<serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion for an

> year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though many

> have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

>

> Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Serenity,

A weak Jupiter might give result to break in studies, no control on

money, & no control of following what others tell---people might even

ignore what others tell.

They even overlook the minute details in everything etc. This is

generalised results. We need to look at the birthchart, for an

exhaustive analysis.

Thank you,

.

http://gauravastro.150m.com

 

vedic astrology , serenity forever

<serenity_forever4 wrote:

>

> That's a wonderful explanation, thanks Gaurav. One more question, I

have Jupiter in Capricorn, I know it's debilitated. But do not know

the harm/negative results it causes in such a scenario. Could you tell me?

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

>

> <gaurav.ghosh

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> Dear Serenity,

> When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is known as

> " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in this

> order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo, Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

> place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

> it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

> it here...

> Mesh

> In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

> of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

> The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

> house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

> spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive properties

> & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign †" " Change is the only

constant! " .

> Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

i.e. the

> first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

> friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

> exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition to a

> planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

> planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this place

> to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it indicates the

> aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> dependent on his commander-in- chief, than his minister.

> Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the first 3

> Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

> his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

> " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> everything with all round ego. It is practical†" sees everything

> practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

> the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

> hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

> for the outcome.

> So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this sign i.e.

> where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

> crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he crosses

> the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

> for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

" meditation " . Ketu

> indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu tries

> to deliver.

>

> This came from the " thoughts " .. .as a great poet of the yesteryears

> said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> Thank you,

> .

> http://gauravastro. 150m.com

>

> vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion for an

> > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though many

> > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> >

> > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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Hmm, maybe you are right, one needs to take a look at the overall chart to get

the complete analysis and not just planet by planet or house by house. Such a

long way to go...

 

(Jup debilitated in Capricorn scenario alone didnt seem to match my nature).

 

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

 

<gaurav.ghosh

[vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

vedic astrology

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:24 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

||Jai Ramakrishna| |

Dear Serenity,

A weak Jupiter might give result to break in studies, no control on

money, & no control of following what others tell---people might even

ignore what others tell.

They even overlook the minute details in everything etc. This is

generalised results. We need to look at the birthchart, for an

exhaustive analysis.

Thank you,

.

http://gauravastro. 150m.com

 

vedic astrology, serenity forever

<serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> That's a wonderful explanation, thanks Gaurav. One more question, I

have Jupiter in Capricorn, I know it's debilitated. But do not know

the harm/negative results it causes in such a scenario. Could you tell me?

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

>

> <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> Dear Serenity,

> When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is known as

> " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in this

> order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo, Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

> place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

> it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

> it here...

> Mesh

> In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

> of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

> The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

> house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

> spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive properties

> & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign †" " Change is the only

constant! " .

> Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

i.e. the

> first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

> friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

> exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition to a

> planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

> planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this place

> to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it indicates the

> aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> dependent on his commander-in- chief, than his minister.

> Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the first 3

> Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

> his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

> " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> everything with all round ego. It is practical†" sees everything

> practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

> the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

> hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

> for the outcome.

> So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this sign i.e.

> where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

> crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he crosses

> the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

> for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

" meditation " . Ketu

> indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu tries

> to deliver.

>

> This came from the " thoughts " .. .as a great poet of the yesteryears

> said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> Thank you,

> .

> http://gauravastro. 150m.com

>

> vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion for an

> > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though many

> > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> >

> > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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Yes. We also need to see the lordship of houses by Jupiter, followed

by aspects to it, conjunction, its condition in navamsha, & also Neech

bhanga. Jupiter with Neechbhanga will give excellent intelligence,

interested in knowing things in details, else dont know it at all,

respect for elders/traditions, etc.

Thank you,

Gaurav.

 

 

vedic astrology , serenity forever

<serenity_forever4 wrote:

>

> Hmm, maybe you are right, one needs to take a look at the overall

chart to get the complete analysis and not just planet by planet or

house by house. Such a long way to go...

>  

> (Jup debilitated in Capricorn scenario alone didnt seem to match my

nature).

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

>

> <gaurav.ghosh

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:24 AM

||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> Dear Serenity,

> A weak Jupiter might give result to break in studies, no control on

> money, & no control of following what others tell---people might even

> ignore what others tell.

> They even overlook the minute details in everything etc. This is

> generalised results. We need to look at the birthchart, for an

> exhaustive analysis.

> Thank you,

> .

> http://gauravastro. 150m.com

>

> vedic astrology, serenity forever

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > That's a wonderful explanation, thanks Gaurav. One more question, I

> have Jupiter in Capricorn, I know it's debilitated. But do not know

> the harm/negative results it causes in such a scenario. Could you

tell me?

> >

> > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

mean?

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > Dear Serenity,

> > When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> > " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is known as

> > " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> > Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in this

> > order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo, Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> > Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> > that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

> > place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

> > it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> > Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> > I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

> > it here...

> > Mesh

> > In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

> > of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> > " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

> > The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

> > house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> > determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

> > spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive properties

> > & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign †" " Change is the only

> constant! " .

> > Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

> i.e. the

> > first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

> > friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> > Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

> > exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition to a

> > planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

> > planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this place

> > to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it indicates the

> > aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> > enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> > dependent on his commander-in- chief, than his minister.

> > Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the first 3

> > Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

> > his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> > However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> > Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

> > " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> > everything with all round ego. It is practical†" sees everything

> > practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

> > the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

> > hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

> > for the outcome.

> > So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> > " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> > live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this

sign i.e.

> > where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

> > crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he crosses

> > the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> > In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

> > for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

> " meditation " . Ketu

> > indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> > objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu tries

> > to deliver.

> >

> > This came from the " thoughts " .. .as a great poet of the yesteryears

> > said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> >

> > vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> > > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion

for an

> > > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though

many

> > > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> > > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> > >

> > > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> > > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Cool. This kinda matches with my personality. Thanks a lot.

 

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

 

<gaurav.ghosh

[vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

vedic astrology

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:40 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes. We also need to see the lordship of houses by Jupiter, followed

by aspects to it, conjunction, its condition in navamsha, & also Neech

bhanga. Jupiter with Neechbhanga will give excellent intelligence,

interested in knowing things in details, else dont know it at all,

respect for elders/traditions, etc.

Thank you,

Gaurav.

 

vedic astrology, serenity forever

<serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> Hmm, maybe you are right, one needs to take a look at the overall

chart to get the complete analysis and not just planet by planet or

house by house. Such a long way to go...

>  

> (Jup debilitated in Capricorn scenario alone didnt seem to match my

nature).

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

>

> <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:24 AM

||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> Dear Serenity,

> A weak Jupiter might give result to break in studies, no control on

> money, & no control of following what others tell---people might even

> ignore what others tell.

> They even overlook the minute details in everything etc. This is

> generalised results. We need to look at the birthchart, for an

> exhaustive analysis.

> Thank you,

> .

> http://gauravastro. 150m.com

>

> vedic astrology, serenity forever

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > That's a wonderful explanation, thanks Gaurav. One more question, I

> have Jupiter in Capricorn, I know it's debilitated. But do not know

> the harm/negative results it causes in such a scenario. Could you

tell me?

> >

> > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

mean?

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > Dear Serenity,

> > When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> > " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is known as

> > " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> > Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in this

> > order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo, Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> > Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> > that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

> > place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

> > it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> > Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> > I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

> > it here...

> > Mesh

> > In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

> > of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> > " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

> > The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

> > house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> > determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

> > spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive properties

> > & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign †" " Change is the only

> constant! " .

> > Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

> i.e. the

> > first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

> > friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> > Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

> > exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition to a

> > planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

> > planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this place

> > to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it indicates the

> > aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> > enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> > dependent on his commander-in- chief, than his minister.

> > Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the first 3

> > Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

> > his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> > However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> > Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

> > " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> > everything with all round ego. It is practical†" sees everything

> > practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

> > the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

> > hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

> > for the outcome.

> > So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> > " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> > live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this

sign i.e.

> > where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

> > crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he crosses

> > the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> > In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

> > for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

> " meditation " . Ketu

> > indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> > objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu tries

> > to deliver.

> >

> > This came from the " thoughts " .. .as a great poet of the yesteryears

> > said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> >

> > vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> > > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion

for an

> > > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though

many

> > > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> > > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> > >

> > > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> > > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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To supplement, Jup is in 10th house.

 

Regards,

Serenity.

 

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4 wrote:

 

serenity forever <serenity_forever4

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

vedic astrology

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 12:18 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cool. This kinda matches with my personality. Thanks a lot.

 

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote:

 

<gaurav.ghosh@ >

[vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

vedic astrology

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:40 AM

 

Yes. We also need to see the lordship of houses by Jupiter, followed

by aspects to it, conjunction, its condition in navamsha, & also Neech

bhanga. Jupiter with Neechbhanga will give excellent intelligence,

interested in knowing things in details, else dont know it at all,

respect for elders/traditions, etc.

Thank you,

Gaurav.

 

vedic astrology, serenity forever

<serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> Hmm, maybe you are right, one needs to take a look at the overall

chart to get the complete analysis and not just planet by planet or

house by house. Such a long way to go...

>  

> (Jup debilitated in Capricorn scenario alone didnt seem to match my

nature).

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

>

> <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:24 AM

||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> Dear Serenity,

> A weak Jupiter might give result to break in studies, no control on

> money, & no control of following what others tell---people might even

> ignore what others tell.

> They even overlook the minute details in everything etc. This is

> generalised results. We need to look at the birthchart, for an

> exhaustive analysis.

> Thank you,

> .

> http://gauravastro. 150m.com

>

> vedic astrology, serenity forever

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > That's a wonderful explanation, thanks Gaurav. One more question, I

> have Jupiter in Capricorn, I know it's debilitated. But do not know

> the harm/negative results it causes in such a scenario. Could you

tell me?

> >

> > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

mean?

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > Dear Serenity,

> > When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> > " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is known as

> > " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> > Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in this

> > order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo, Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> > Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> > that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

> > place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

> > it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> > Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> > I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

> > it here...

> > Mesh

> > In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

> > of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> > " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

> > The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

> > house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> > determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

> > spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive properties

> > & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign †" " Change is the only

> constant! " .

> > Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

> i.e. the

> > first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

> > friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> > Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

> > exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition to a

> > planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

> > planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this place

> > to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it indicates the

> > aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> > enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> > dependent on his commander-in- chief, than his minister.

> > Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the first 3

> > Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

> > his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> > However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> > Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

> > " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> > everything with all round ego. It is practical†" sees everything

> > practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

> > the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

> > hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

> > for the outcome.

> > So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> > " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> > live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this

sign i.e.

> > where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

> > crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he crosses

> > the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> > In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

> > for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

> " meditation " . Ketu

> > indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> > objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu tries

> > to deliver.

> >

> > This came from the " thoughts " .. .as a great poet of the yesteryears

> > said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> >

> > vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> > > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion

for an

> > > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though

many

> > > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> > > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> > >

> > > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> > > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Luck you!! ;)

May God assist you in every possible form & means to do something

benign for the sake of human race.

Gaurav.

 

 

vedic astrology , serenity forever

<serenity_forever4 wrote:

>

> To supplement, Jup is in 10th house.

>  

> Regards,

> Serenity.

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4 wrote:

>

> serenity forever <serenity_forever4

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly

" exalted/debilitated " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 12:18 PM

Cool. This kinda matches with my personality. Thanks a lot.

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote:

>

> <gaurav.ghosh@ >

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:40 AM

>

> Yes. We also need to see the lordship of houses by Jupiter, followed

> by aspects to it, conjunction, its condition in navamsha, & also Neech

> bhanga. Jupiter with Neechbhanga will give excellent intelligence,

> interested in knowing things in details, else dont know it at all,

> respect for elders/traditions, etc.

> Thank you,

> Gaurav.

>

> vedic astrology, serenity forever

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Hmm, maybe you are right, one needs to take a look at the overall

> chart to get the complete analysis and not just planet by planet or

> house by house. Such a long way to go...

> >  

> > (Jup debilitated in Capricorn scenario alone didnt seem to match my

> nature).

> >

> > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

mean?

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:24 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > Dear Serenity,

> > A weak Jupiter might give result to break in studies, no control on

> > money, & no control of following what others tell---people might even

> > ignore what others tell.

> > They even overlook the minute details in everything etc. This is

> > generalised results. We need to look at the birthchart, for an

> > exhaustive analysis.

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> >

> > vedic astrology, serenity forever

> > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > That's a wonderful explanation, thanks Gaurav. One more question, I

> > have Jupiter in Capricorn, I know it's debilitated. But do not know

> > the harm/negative results it causes in such a scenario. Could you

> tell me?

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

> mean?

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > > Dear Serenity,

> > > When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> > > " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is

known as

> > > " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> > > Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in

this

> > > order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo, Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> > > Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> > > that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

> > > place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

> > > it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> > > Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> > > I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

> > > it here...

> > > Mesh

> > > In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

> > > of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> > > " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

> > > The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

> > > house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> > > determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

> > > spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive

properties

> > > & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign †" " Change is

the only

> > constant! " .

> > > Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

> > i.e. the

> > > first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

> > > friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> > > Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

> > > exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition

to a

> > > planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

> > > planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this

place

> > > to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it

indicates the

> > > aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> > > enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> > > dependent on his commander-in- chief, than his minister.

> > > Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the

first 3

> > > Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

> > > his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> > > However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> > > Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

> > > " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> > > everything with all round ego. It is practical†" sees

everything

> > > practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

> > > the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

> > > hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

> > > for the outcome.

> > > So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> > > " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> > > live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this

> sign i.e.

> > > where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

> > > crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he

crosses

> > > the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> > > In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

> > > for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

> > " meditation " . Ketu

> > > indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> > > objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu

tries

> > > to deliver.

> > >

> > > This came from the " thoughts " .. .as a great poet of the yesteryears

> > > said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> > > Thank you,

> > > .

> > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> > > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff

regarding

> > > > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion

> for an

> > > > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though

> many

> > > > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I

didnt

> > > > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first

house in

> > > > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Thanks a lot for the kind words :). One of my main agitations (if we forget

about the other " selfish " ones..hehe), is where I will die without being able to

do anything for the so many babies, kids, old people in this world who miserably

need help and who undergo many unspeakable terrors.

 

(As per astrology, karmic philosophy applies, the baby had done something very

bad in his/her past, that's why it had to undergo such pain, but it's a baby,

does he/she know her past and that's why they are getting punished so brutally?

Well, if I get a chance to meet God, I would ask him to reform his rules and

regulations - if someone had done a crime in this life, punish that someone this

life itself, why make them suffer next life, in which they dont even remember

about past lives?!) 

 

So far, I couldnt do anything personally directly, and that's what keeps eating

my brain on and off, but only if your words come true, I would be more than

happier in this lifetime :)

 

Heartfelt thanks again for the good wishes

 

Regards,

Serenity.

 

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

 

<gaurav.ghosh

[vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

vedic astrology

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 6:40 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Luck you!! ;)

May God assist you in every possible form & means to do something

benign for the sake of human race.

Gaurav.

 

vedic astrology, serenity forever

<serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> To supplement, Jup is in 10th house.

>  

> Regards,

> Serenity.

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ ...>

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly

" exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 12:18 PM

Cool. This kinda matches with my personality. Thanks a lot.

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote:

>

> <gaurav.ghosh@ >

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:40 AM

>

> Yes. We also need to see the lordship of houses by Jupiter, followed

> by aspects to it, conjunction, its condition in navamsha, & also Neech

> bhanga. Jupiter with Neechbhanga will give excellent intelligence,

> interested in knowing things in details, else dont know it at all,

> respect for elders/traditions, etc.

> Thank you,

> Gaurav.

>

> vedic astrology, serenity forever

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Hmm, maybe you are right, one needs to take a look at the overall

> chart to get the complete analysis and not just planet by planet or

> house by house. Such a long way to go...

> >  

> > (Jup debilitated in Capricorn scenario alone didnt seem to match my

> nature).

> >

> > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

mean?

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:24 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > Dear Serenity,

> > A weak Jupiter might give result to break in studies, no control on

> > money, & no control of following what others tell---people might even

> > ignore what others tell.

> > They even overlook the minute details in everything etc. This is

> > generalised results. We need to look at the birthchart, for an

> > exhaustive analysis.

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> >

> > vedic astrology, serenity forever

> > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > That's a wonderful explanation, thanks Gaurav. One more question, I

> > have Jupiter in Capricorn, I know it's debilitated. But do not know

> > the harm/negative results it causes in such a scenario. Could you

> tell me?

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

> mean?

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > > Dear Serenity,

> > > When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> > > " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is

known as

> > > " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> > > Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in

this

> > > order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo, Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> > > Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> > > that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

> > > place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

> > > it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> > > Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> > > I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

> > > it here...

> > > Mesh

> > > In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

> > > of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> > > " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

> > > The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

> > > house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> > > determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

> > > spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive

properties

> > > & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign †" " Change is

the only

> > constant! " .

> > > Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

> > i.e. the

> > > first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

> > > friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> > > Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

> > > exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition

to a

> > > planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

> > > planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this

place

> > > to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it

indicates the

> > > aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> > > enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> > > dependent on his commander-in- chief, than his minister.

> > > Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the

first 3

> > > Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

> > > his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> > > However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> > > Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

> > > " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> > > everything with all round ego. It is practical†" sees

everything

> > > practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

> > > the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

> > > hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

> > > for the outcome.

> > > So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> > > " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> > > live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this

> sign i.e.

> > > where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

> > > crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he

crosses

> > > the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> > > In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

> > > for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

> > " meditation " . Ketu

> > > indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> > > objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu

tries

> > > to deliver.

> > >

> > > This came from the " thoughts " .. .as a great poet of the yesteryears

> > > said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> > > Thank you,

> > > .

> > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> > > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff

regarding

> > > > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion

> for an

> > > > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though

> many

> > > > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I

didnt

> > > > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first

house in

> > > > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> > > >

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Planet earth, either way!

 

Anything smaller or more precise would be being selfish!!

 

Vasudaiva Kutumbakam...

 

 

vedic astrology , serenity forever

<serenity_forever4 wrote:

>

> Thanks a lot for the kind words :). One of my main agitations (if we

forget about the other " selfish " ones..hehe), is where I will die

without being able to do anything for the so many babies, kids, old

people in this world who miserably need help and who undergo many

unspeakable terrors. <snip>...

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Dear Serenity,

 

Technically, it is said that at exaltation degrees, planet is fartest

and move very slowly with respect to earth, whereas at neech

degrees, planet is nearest and hence moves very fast.

 

This i have read before somewhere, writing from memory, the elliptical

path of earth and sun is taken into consideration in this concept.

 

Fast motion indicate: impatience, aggression, frustration.

Slow motion indicate : stability, idealism, patience, " serenity " :)etc.

 

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

vedic astrology , " "

<gaurav.ghosh wrote:

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Serenity,

> When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is known as

> " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in this

> order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo,Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

> place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

> it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

> it here...

> Mesh

> In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

> of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

> The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

> house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

> spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive properties

> & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign – " Change is the only constant! " .

> Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

i.e. the

> first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

> friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

> exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition to a

> planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

> planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this place

> to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it indicates the

> aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> dependent on his commander-in-chief, than his minister.

> Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the first 3

> Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

> his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

> " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> everything with all round ego. It is practical—sees everything

> practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

> the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

> hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

> for the outcome.

> So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this sign i.e.

> where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

> crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he crosses

> the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

> for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

" meditation " . Ketu

> indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu tries

> to deliver.

>

> This came from the " thoughts " ...as a great poet of the yesteryears

> said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> Thank you,

> .

> http://gauravastro.150m.com

>

>

> vedic astrology , " serenity_forever4 "

> <serenity_forever4@> wrote:

> >

> > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilitation for an

> > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though many

> > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> > totally get the concept!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> >

>

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--- On Fri, 20/2/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4 wrote:

 

serenity forever <serenity_forever4

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

vedic astrology

Friday, 20 February, 2009, 8:56 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks a lot for the kind words :). One of my main agitations (if we forget

about the other " selfish " ones..hehe), is where I will die without being able to

do anything for the so many babies, kids, old people in this world who miserably

need help and who undergo many unspeakable terrors.

 

(As per astrology, karmic philosophy applies, the baby had done something very

bad in his/her past, that's why it had to undergo such pain, but it's a baby,

does he/she know her past and that's why they are getting punished so brutally?

Well, if I get a chance to meet God, I would ask him to reform his rules and

regulations - if someone had done a crime in this life, punish that someone this

life itself, why make them suffer next life, in which they dont even remember

about past lives?!) 

 

So far, I couldnt do anything personally directly, and that's what keeps eating

my brain on and off, but only if your words come true, I would be more than

happier in this lifetime  :)

 

Heartfelt thanks again for the good wishes

 

Regards,

Serenity.

 

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote:

 

<gaurav.ghosh@ >

[vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

vedic astrology

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 6:40 PM

 

Luck you!! ;)

May God assist you in every possible form & means to do something

benign for the sake of human race.

Gaurav.

 

vedic astrology, serenity forever

<serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> To supplement, Jup is in 10th house.

>  

> Regards,

> Serenity.

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ ...>

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly

" exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 12:18 PM

Cool. This kinda matches with my personality. Thanks a lot.

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote:

>

> <gaurav.ghosh@ >

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:40 AM

>

> Yes. We also need to see the lordship of houses by Jupiter, followed

> by aspects to it, conjunction, its condition in navamsha, & also Neech

> bhanga. Jupiter with Neechbhanga will give excellent intelligence,

> interested in knowing things in details, else dont know it at all,

> respect for elders/traditions, etc.

> Thank you,

> Gaurav.

>

> vedic astrology, serenity forever

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Hmm, maybe you are right, one needs to take a look at the overall

> chart to get the complete analysis and not just planet by planet or

> house by house. Such a long way to go...

> >  

> > (Jup debilitated in Capricorn scenario alone didnt seem to match my

> nature).

> >

> > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

mean?

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:24 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > Dear Serenity,

> > A weak Jupiter might give result to break in studies, no control on

> > money, & no control of following what others tell---people might even

> > ignore what others tell.

> > They even overlook the minute details in everything etc. This is

> > generalised results. We need to look at the birthchart, for an

> > exhaustive analysis.

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> >

> > vedic astrology, serenity forever

> > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > That's a wonderful explanation, thanks Gaurav. One more question, I

> > have Jupiter in Capricorn, I know it's debilitated. But do not know

> > the harm/negative results it causes in such a scenario. Could you

> tell me?

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

> mean?

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > > Dear Serenity,

> > > When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> > > " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is

known as

> > > " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> > > Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in

this

> > > order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo, Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> > > Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> > > that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

> > > place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

> > > it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> > > Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> > > I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

> > > it here...

> > > Mesh

> > > In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

> > > of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> > > " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

> > > The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

> > > house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> > > determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

> > > spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive

properties

> > > & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign †" " Change is

the only

> > constant! " .

> > > Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

> > i.e. the

> > > first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

> > > friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> > > Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

> > > exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition

to a

> > > planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

> > > planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this

place

> > > to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it

indicates the

> > > aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> > > enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> > > dependent on his commander-in- chief, than his minister.

> > > Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the

first 3

> > > Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

> > > his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> > > However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> > > Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

> > > " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> > > everything with all round ego. It is practical†" sees

everything

> > > practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

> > > the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

> > > hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

> > > for the outcome.

> > > So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> > > " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> > > live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this

> sign i.e.

> > > where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

> > > crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he

crosses

> > > the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> > > In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

> > > for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

> > " meditation " . Ketu

> > > indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> > > objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu

tries

> > > to deliver.

> > >

> > > This came from the " thoughts " .. .as a great poet of the yesteryears

> > > said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> > > Thank you,

> > > .

> > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> > > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff

regarding

> > > > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion

> for an

> > > > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though

> many

> > > > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I

didnt

> > > > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first

house in

> > > > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Re: [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

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serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ >

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

vedic astrology

Friday, 20 February, 2009, 8:56 AM

 

Thanks a lot for the kind words :). One of my main agitations (if we forget

about the other " selfish " ones..hehe), is where I will die without being able to

do anything for the so many babies, kids, old people in this world who miserably

need help and who undergo many unspeakable terrors.

 

(As per astrology, karmic philosophy applies, the baby had done something very

bad in his/her past, that's why it had to undergo such pain, but it's a baby,

does he/she know her past and that's why they are getting punished so brutally?

Well, if I get a chance to meet God, I would ask him to reform his rules and

regulations - if someone had done a crime in this life, punish that someone this

life itself, why make them suffer next life, in which they dont even remember

about past lives?!) 

 

So far, I couldnt do anything personally directly, and that's what keeps eating

my brain on and off, but only if your words come true, I would be more than

happier in this lifetime  :)

 

Heartfelt thanks again for the good wishes

 

Regards,

Serenity.

 

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote:

 

<gaurav.ghosh@ >

[vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

vedic astrology

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 6:40 PM

 

Luck you!! ;)

May God assist you in every possible form & means to do something

benign for the sake of human race.

Gaurav.

 

vedic astrology, serenity forever

<serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> To supplement, Jup is in 10th house.

>  

> Regards,

> Serenity.

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

>

> serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ ...>

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly

" exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 12:18 PM

Cool. This kinda matches with my personality. Thanks a lot.

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote:

>

> <gaurav.ghosh@ >

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:40 AM

>

> Yes. We also need to see the lordship of houses by Jupiter, followed

> by aspects to it, conjunction, its condition in navamsha, & also Neech

> bhanga. Jupiter with Neechbhanga will give excellent intelligence,

> interested in knowing things in details, else dont know it at all,

> respect for elders/traditions, etc.

> Thank you,

> Gaurav.

>

> vedic astrology, serenity forever

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Hmm, maybe you are right, one needs to take a look at the overall

> chart to get the complete analysis and not just planet by planet or

> house by house. Such a long way to go...

> >  

> > (Jup debilitated in Capricorn scenario alone didnt seem to match my

> nature).

> >

> > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

mean?

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:24 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > Dear Serenity,

> > A weak Jupiter might give result to break in studies, no control on

> > money, & no control of following what others tell---people might even

> > ignore what others tell.

> > They even overlook the minute details in everything etc. This is

> > generalised results. We need to look at the birthchart, for an

> > exhaustive analysis.

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> >

> > vedic astrology, serenity forever

> > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > That's a wonderful explanation, thanks Gaurav. One more question, I

> > have Jupiter in Capricorn, I know it's debilitated. But do not know

> > the harm/negative results it causes in such a scenario. Could you

> tell me?

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...>

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d "

> mean?

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:53 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > > Dear Serenity,

> > > When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> > > " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is

known as

> > > " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> > > Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in

this

> > > order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo, Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> > > Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> > > that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a certain

> > > place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological lingo,

> > > it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> > > Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> > > I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me put

> > > it here...

> > > Mesh

> > > In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the planet

> > > of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> > > " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is our " own " .

> > > The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile fiery

> > > house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> > > determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion. Fire

> > > spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive

properties

> > > & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign †" " Change is

the only

> > constant! " .

> > > Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

> > i.e. the

> > > first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign & both

> > > friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> > > Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house. An

> > > exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition

to a

> > > planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a fiery

> > > planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this

place

> > > to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it

indicates the

> > > aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> > > enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> > > dependent on his commander-in- chief, than his minister.

> > > Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the

first 3

> > > Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He enters

> > > his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> > > However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> > > Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating in

> > > " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> > > everything with all round ego. It is practical†" sees

everything

> > > practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things in

> > > the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you work

> > > hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be prepared

> > > for the outcome.

> > > So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> > > " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> > > live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this

> sign i.e.

> > > where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once Sun

> > > crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he

crosses

> > > the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> > > In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by Ketu

> > > for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

> > " meditation " . Ketu

> > > indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> > > objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu

tries

> > > to deliver.

> > >

> > > This came from the " thoughts " .. .as a great poet of the yesteryears

> > > said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> > > Thank you,

> > > .

> > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> > > <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff

regarding

> > > > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion

> for an

> > > > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though

> many

> > > > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I

didnt

> > > > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first

house in

> > > > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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You are most welcome

 

 

 

 

 

 

> thanks rhoda, I was able to search accurately based on your response

and I got my answers.

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Rhoda Reporter <rhodes10 wrote:

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> Rhoda Reporter <rhodes10

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:36 AM

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> dear friend,

>

> neither

> Mars is exalted in capricorn.

> the experts will explain the rest

> DIVINE LIGHT

> rhoda

>

> -- In vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion for an

> > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though many

> > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> >

> > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hai vedic astrology lovers,

 

When mars is in Aries that it is it it own sign as it also will be in scorpion,

it is exa. when in capricorn and deb when in cancer, this all is very basic

knowledge in astrology east or west.

If you pay a book, than you will see that, it is not so difficult to learn,

greethings from

Freddy Wissink, vedic astrologer since 2004 in Amsterdam Holland and study it

weekly in a group since 1998

 

At the moment Mars is exa in capricoorn round 19 degree so it is strong in his

effect for people who are now lets say in a Mars period and also if the planeet

is in there own chart exa or even deb.

 

All depending of the chart in a holl and other info, but there will be a effect.

 

--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Rhoda Reporter <rhodes10 wrote:

 

Rhoda Reporter <rhodes10

[vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitated " mean?

vedic astrology

Saturday, February 21, 2009, 8:30 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You are most welcome

 

> thanks rhoda, I was able to search accurately based on your response

and I got my answers.

>

> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Rhoda Reporter <rhodes10@.. .> wrote:

>

> Rhoda Reporter <rhodes10@.. .>

> [vedic astrology] Re: What exactly " exalted/debilitate d " mean?

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:36 AM

-

> dear friend,

>

> neither

> Mars is exalted in capricorn.

> the experts will explain the rest

> DIVINE LIGHT

> rhoda

>

> -- In vedic astrology, " serenity_forever4 "

> <serenity_forever4@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff regarding

> > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilita tion for an

> > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you, though many

> > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I didnt

> > totally get the concept!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!

> >

> > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house in

> > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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Vijay,

 

There are two phenomena that are getting mixed up in what you posted.

Just focusing on superior planets (mars, saturn, jupiter - called

superior because their orbital paths around sun are larger than that

of earth): When earth is running closest to the planet (in a chart

sun would be in the 6th to 8th signs or so from the planet), as the

faster moving earth catches up and leaves behind the superior planet

(think of them as being on a race track), the planet will seem to go

retrograde. This 'closeness' can happen even when a planet is exalted

or debilitated so nothing to do with closeness or distance.

 

Exaltation and debilitation are phasic properties like the phases of

moon (newmoon to fullmoon being an arc distance of 180 degrees just

as exaltation to debilitation is). Think of it as the 'planet'

gaining more light just as the moon is when it moves from amavasya to

purnima. The exalted planet is more contented and of superior quality

and in a higher plane qualitatively. For 'quantitative' strength it

is better to rely on shadbala than exaltation and debilitation alone

because these form just one factor in the bala nirnaya. An exalted

planet can be pretty weak if other factors do not line up and

conversely a debilitated planet can be strong (undesirably so) in the

aggregate strength.

 

RR

 

vedic astrology , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj

wrote:

>

> Dear Serenity,

>

> Technically, it is said that at exaltation degrees, planet is

fartest

> and move very slowly with respect to earth, whereas at neech

> degrees, planet is nearest and hence moves very fast.

>

> This i have read before somewhere, writing from memory, the

elliptical

> path of earth and sun is taken into consideration in this concept.

>

> Fast motion indicate: impatience, aggression, frustration.

> Slow motion indicate : stability, idealism, patience, " serenity " :)

etc.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> vedic astrology , " "

> <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > Dear Serenity,

> > When a planet is in exaltation, he is said to be " Deepta " meaning

> > " Illuminated " , while a planet in a state of debilitation is known

as

> > " Khala " , meaning one who is wicked.

> > Starting from Sun, ending with Saturn the planets get exalted in

this

> > order--Aries, Tauras, Capricorn,Virgo,Cancer,Pisces & Libra.

> > Aries is the Mars own sign, & Mars is said to be in mooltrikona in

> > that house.Mooltrikona gets a special attention, as it is a

certain

> > place in ones own house, where he feels free, in astrological

lingo,

> > it is called " Swastha " or stable.

> > Like our own room is the best place in the world.

> > I was writing something, during my travel to South India. Let me

put

> > it here...

> > Mesh

> > In English we call it Aries. Owner of this house is Mars- the

planet

> > of action & valour. He is also the planet of courage, conferred as

> > " Bhumisuta " probably our sages tried to convey that he is

our " own " .

> > The first house is always considered as the self. This mobile

fiery

> > house, owned by a fiery planet shows the zeal within us, the

> > determination, the aggressiveness within us & also the passion.

Fire

> > spreads easily, destroying everything with its destructive

properties

> > & ego. The motto of this cardinal sign – " Change is the only

constant! " .

> > Mars uses this sign as his " Mooltrikona " for the first 12 & #61616;

> i.e. the

> > first 4 Navamsha, till cancer. Rest he falls in his own Sign &

both

> > friendly & " unfriendly " Navamsha.

> > Coincidentally, Sun, the royal planet, is exalted in this house.

An

> > exalted condition is said to be " Deepta " (illuminated) condition

to a

> > planet. Sun the planet of " Ego " , the Aham within us, is also a

fiery

> > planet. Both of these fiery planets in the fiery sign find this

place

> > to " destroy " everything with their " Aham " . Certainly it indicates

the

> > aggression, the passion, the assertive attitude, synergy & energy,

> > enthusiasm & the " EGO " . It is needless to say that the Sun is more

> > dependent on his commander-in-chief, than his minister.

> > Sun is exalted till the first 10 & #61616; of this sign i.e. the

first 3

> > Navamsha, till Cancer (Karka), after which his role ends. He

enters

> > his own sign & later goes on to debilitation.

> > However, the " son " of Sun is said to be debilitated in this house.

> > Saturn has more of an earthly, down-to-earth touch than floating

in

> > " inflated " ego. Saturn doesn't believe in this passion of burning

> > everything with all round ego. It is practical—sees everything

> > practically, sees the pros & cons of the condition & takes things

in

> > the hard way. Indicates that things don't come easy. Either you

work

> > hard for it & earn it, else if unearned in wrong means, be

prepared

> > for the outcome.

> > So, where the assertive planets come to play, Saturn is becomes

> > " Khala " (wicked). He finds the place uneasy for him to stay or

> > live-in. Saturn is debilitated maximum till 20 & #61616; of this

sign i.e.

> > where all Sun will find a happier place. Saturn feels that once

Sun

> > crosses the sign Cancer, his work starts from there & once he

crosses

> > the stipulated degree, who will stop from being exalted?

> > In Vimshottari Dasa system the degree of the Aries is ruled by

Ketu

> > for the first 13 & #61616;20 & #8243;. Ketu is said to be on

> " meditation " . Ketu

> > indicates the detachment from everything on focuses on the

> > objective--- organisation & planning for the future is what Ketu

tries

> > to deliver.

> >

> > This came from the " thoughts " ...as a great poet of the yesteryears

> > said " Poetry is the outflow of powerful feelings.... " ..so it is!!

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " serenity_forever4 "

> > <serenity_forever4@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Whenever I get some time, I try to read some online stuff

regarding

> > > astrology, I have been reading about exaltation/debilitation

for an

> > > year or so, but, to glorify my ignorace, let me tell you,

though many

> > > have explained the terms crystal clear with examples, still I

didnt

> > > totally get the concept!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > Could anyone please tell me lets say, if Mars is in first house

in

> > > Aries (Lagna), Mars is exalted or debilitated?

> > >

> >

>

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