On Remedial Measures Difference (Resolving Points)

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Dear Swee,

 

As you say, this is only " somewhat related " .

 

A result from a specific karma may indeed require a specific remedy. But my main

points are as follows:

 

(1) The knowledge needed for judging specific karmas responsible for specific

results and suggesting specific remedies is partly lost and partly corrupted

today. What we have is a non-coherent collage of some good knowledge and a lot

of corruptions.

 

The way gandanta is being stretched and people are talking of insult to Vishnu

by fasting etc, it should be clear that knowledge is being corrupted based on

fancy imagination (without acknowledging that it is a research proposal).

 

(2) Many people today are unable to use many specific remedies given in shastras

today. Just because one worships a specific form with a specific mantra, things

do not necessarily happen. There is a lot more needed and most of it is not

external (e.g. choice of weekday or tithi or color of clothes, direction faced

etc) but internal (e.g. discipline, patience, surrender, humility, low ego etc).

In the old days, these internal issues were pretty much under control and

mantras worked well. Now, people lack big time and mantras do not work the way

they are supposed to.

 

Given the above two points, best path for one today is to surrender to a deity,

try to instill discipline, humility and patience and pray for mercy, rather than

running after astrologers for customized remedies.

 

(3) *Austerities* like fasting do *not* harm one. For example, the king in the

story did not get leprosy because he fasted on a wrong day. Claims that fasting

causes dangers and that there are formulas for calculating it are quite wrong.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

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sohamsa , Swee Chan <swee wrote:

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Narasimha,

> Namaste

>

> > If reliable and unquestionable sources can be mentioned for claims

> > that fasting on certain weekdays or tithis brings " insult to

> > Vishnu " , " serious doshas " and " danger to spouse " , I can reconsider

> > my statement.

>

> I can give you a reference that is somewhat related, since King

> Bhadreshvara was propitiating (and offering many penances to) many

> deities (verse 2). Despite this, he still suffered leprosy and was

> told to specifically propitiate the Sun. This implies that the King

> did not propitiate the correct form of deity and had to suffer the

> leprosy, until he took advice from the Brahmanas (in the next two

> verses not provided. Since I have given the reference, you and other

> learned sanskritists could maybe check out the rest of the chapter) -

> would be much appreciated by me.

>

> The other reference which I have not provided here on Shanishcara

> stotra, requests his devotees to eulogise him on Saturday, since this

> day is presided by him.

>

> I hope this reference will finally put things in a clearer perspective.

>

> love,

>

> Swee

>

> 

>

> On 2 Mar 2009, at 07:40, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:

>

> > Namaste,

> >

> > > > This fixing of attitude is faaaaaaaaaaaar more important than

> > picking the

> > > > right mantra, right weekday, right tithi etc (that too based on

> > unreliable

> > > > knowledge coming from questionable sources!).

> > >

> > > I agree: fixing of attitude is needed.Ã, 'Questionable sources'?Ã,

> > > Lets not lose our manners now.

> >

> > If reliable and unquestionable sources can be mentioned for claims

> > that fasting on certain weekdays or tithis brings " insult to

> > Vishnu " , " serious doshas " and " danger to spouse " , I can reconsider

> > my statement.

> >

> > > But don't start a vendetta against the vedanga.

> >

> > This is not a vendetta against the vedanga, but a pushback on a

> > mindless spree of over-theorization and over-selling of unreliable

> > knowledge coming from questionable sources, which is corrupting the

> > vedanga.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha