Hi,

[Guest guest]

Hi Sama, Ash and Other list members,

 

Pls correct my mistakes.

 

I casted your chart, its a 26Libra14. First of all lets check the imp factors

for the marriage.

1) Jup is not in Libra

2) Ven sun difference is 14 degrees( normal)

3) Ven is not in bad NKTs

4) Sat does not aspect A,B and C houses

5) Sat Aspect LOB and LOA.

6) Sat aspect Moon in Rashi

7) Lord of Lagna and & 7 th Lord : 2:12, Moon signs lord and Lagna : 2;12 :

Sun sign and 7th lord: 1:1

8) Sun is giving one zero in Ist house

 

 

So there is a full delay. ( Pls confirm).

 

Now Sama you are going though Sat/Rahu. Sat is the karka of 10th and 9th

house.

Rahu represent sun and Ven. In 11th house , sun has more points so Rahu is

more tilted towards Sun.

 

In work sheet, Me - 31, Ve - 13, Su - 12 and all other planet less points than

12.

Now Rahu is in the Navamsha of Mercury and Mer has highest point. But Mer is

SD to Jup which is 6th lord( 12th from B). ( Please confirm this - Is my

understanding right on this).

So Mer cannot give result for Rahu. But Mer is LOE and has highest points in

the WS so I think it can give result. Beacuse next antra is of Jup ( 6th lord)

and then Mer( its too late).

 

Marriage should happen in the last sector that is 23 Dec 2007 to Dec 2008. To

narrow down with the help of transit between 13 June to 4 July, 2008 Gemini sign

and Nkt of Rahu( Ardara). ( Pls confirm this too).

 

Ash, I am looking forward for your correction.

Thanking You.

 

Rajesh

 

 

 

sama_jafri <sama_jafri wrote:

Hi,

 

I wanna know just one thing that is When I'll get married?

 

My Birth Detail:

 

TIME OF BIRTH: 15:20 (03:20p.m)

DATE OF BIRTH: July 05, 1979.

PLACE OF BIRTH CITY: Karachi

CURRENT PLACE: Karachi

STATE: Sind

COUNTRY: Pakistan

LATITUDE: 024:48:N

LONGITUDE: 066:59:E

GENDER: Female

STATUS: Unmarried

 

Eagerly waiting for your reply!

 

Thanks and regards

 

SaMa

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Raj Rajesh,

 

Your approach is very nice.

Yes, delay is there by Saturn.

As the marriage seems to be on adjustments and there will be some disharmony

too.

This can be seen from the Lagna, Moon, Sun ratios.

So the marriage may be in antra of lowest points or 6th lord (Jup) also.

The delay ends in 16th May2005

Rahu (Sun and Venus) is in house C

Rahu cant be SD to Mercury though this in in Mercury navamsa.

How Rahu antra will give the marriage?

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9 wrote:

Hi Sama, Ash and Other list members,

 

Pls correct my mistakes.

 

I casted your chart, its a 26Libra14. First of all lets check the imp factors

for the marriage.

1) Jup is not in Libra

2) Ven sun difference is 14 degrees( normal)

3) Ven is not in bad NKTs

4) Sat does not aspect A,B and C houses

5) Sat Aspect LOB and LOA.

6) Sat aspect Moon in Rashi

7) Lord of Lagna and & 7 th Lord : 2:12, Moon signs lord and Lagna : 2;12 : Sun

sign and 7th lord: 1:1

8) Sun is giving one zero in Ist house

 

 

So there is a full delay. ( Pls confirm).

 

Now Sama you are going though Sat/Rahu. Sat is the karka of 10th and 9th house.

Rahu represent sun and Ven. In 11th house , sun has more points so Rahu is more

tilted towards Sun.

 

In work sheet, Me - 31, Ve - 13, Su - 12 and all other planet less points than

12.

Now Rahu is in the Navamsha of Mercury and Mer has highest point. But Mer is SD

to Jup which is 6th lord( 12th from B). ( Please confirm this - Is my

understanding right on this).

So Mer cannot give result for Rahu. But Mer is LOE and has highest points in the

WS so I think it can give result. Beacuse next antra is of Jup ( 6th lord) and

then Mer( its too late).

 

Marriage should happen in the last sector that is 23 Dec 2007 to Dec 2008. To

narrow down with the help of transit between 13 June to 4 July, 2008 Gemini sign

and Nkt of Rahu( Ardara). ( Pls confirm this too).

 

Ash, I am looking forward for your correction.

Thanking You.

 

Rajesh

 

 

 

sama_jafri <sama_jafri wrote:

Hi,

 

I wanna know just one thing that is When I'll get married?

 

My Birth Detail:

 

TIME OF BIRTH: 15:20 (03:20p.m)

DATE OF BIRTH: July 05, 1979.

PLACE OF BIRTH CITY: Karachi

CURRENT PLACE: Karachi

STATE: Sind

COUNTRY: Pakistan

LATITUDE: 024:48:N

LONGITUDE: 066:59:E

GENDER: Female

STATUS: Unmarried

 

Eagerly waiting for your reply!

 

Thanks and regards

 

SaMa

 

 

Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Anup and Rajesh,

 

Both of u are on the right track. We must first confirm if the birth

time is right, also keep in mind the desh kaal paatra principle.

 

How does one decide if the marriage is early ?

 

In India we are taking 21 years as that is the legal age so all laws

are applied in accordance or based on that phenemona. So 21 years is

early marriage as per INDIAN LAW, and then full delay will be 3 signs

of sign of saturn traversed less the degrees of saturn. So if Sa is

at 0 degrees then delay is 27.5 as it takes saturn 7.5 years to

transit over 3 signs.

 

So keep this in mind. So when one studies marriage w.r.t other

countries, or even in India where such things are not followed, say in

some communities early marriage might be say 12/13 or so then in that

case delay might be 21 or 22 years so like that.

 

So it becomes imperative to find out what is considered early marriage

as per the community, country, place etc.

 

So as per this chart, this Lady was born in Pakistan, and so one must

find out what is considered an early marriage.

 

Also note when Krushnaji was timing the marriage of our late Peter ji,

who was in England at that time, Krushanji asked him, what would be

considered delay marriage and then based on that assumption he timed

the marriage to within day.

 

So here, Anup u are applying the laws of India i.e. u are taking

minimum age or early marriage at 21. Just think over what I am saying

here this is important.

 

Say in north america, marriages are later. Lets say early marriage

might be considered at 24 or so, so in that case, u have to consider

that as the starting point and then start your calculations as i have

given above.

 

So as per that, I do not know what is considered early marriage as per

Sama's community or even current surroundings.

 

So delay is there in marriage as both of you have found out, with the

current data. So we can say that first probable time is in Ra antra

as Ra is SD to Ve and Su. So lets hope that here Ra steps in for Ve

and Sun so 3rd sector is first probable strong chance. Yes, Ra is

more like Sun who has 12 points so its borderline and can go either

way and at same time its less like Venus who is better.

 

Now all this is assuming that the birth time is correct.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Raj Rajesh,

>

> Your approach is very nice.

> Yes, delay is there by Saturn.

> As the marriage seems to be on adjustments and there will be some

disharmony too.

> This can be seen from the Lagna, Moon, Sun ratios.

> So the marriage may be in antra of lowest points or 6th lord (Jup)

also.

> The delay ends in 16th May2005

> Rahu (Sun and Venus) is in house C

> Rahu cant be SD to Mercury though this in in Mercury navamsa.

> How Rahu antra will give the marriage?

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9 wrote:

> Hi Sama, Ash and Other list members,

>

> Pls correct my mistakes.

>

> I casted your chart, its a 26Libra14. First of all lets check the

imp factors for the marriage.

> 1) Jup is not in Libra

> 2) Ven sun difference is 14 degrees( normal)

> 3) Ven is not in bad NKTs

> 4) Sat does not aspect A,B and C houses

> 5) Sat Aspect LOB and LOA.

> 6) Sat aspect Moon in Rashi

> 7) Lord of Lagna and & 7 th Lord : 2:12, Moon signs lord and Lagna :

2;12 : Sun sign and 7th lord: 1:1

> 8) Sun is giving one zero in Ist house

>

>

> So there is a full delay. ( Pls confirm).

>

> Now Sama you are going though Sat/Rahu. Sat is the karka of 10th and

9th house.

> Rahu represent sun and Ven. In 11th house , sun has more points so

Rahu is more tilted towards Sun.

>

> In work sheet, Me - 31, Ve - 13, Su - 12 and all other planet less

points than 12.

> Now Rahu is in the Navamsha of Mercury and Mer has highest point.

But Mer is SD to Jup which is 6th lord( 12th from B). ( Please confirm

this - Is my understanding right on this).

> So Mer cannot give result for Rahu. But Mer is LOE and has highest

points in the WS so I think it can give result. Beacuse next antra is

of Jup ( 6th lord) and then Mer( its too late).

>

> Marriage should happen in the last sector that is 23 Dec 2007 to Dec

2008. To narrow down with the help of transit between 13 June to 4

July, 2008 Gemini sign and Nkt of Rahu( Ardara). ( Pls confirm this too).

>

> Ash, I am looking forward for your correction.

> Thanking You.

>

> Rajesh

>

>

>

> sama_jafri <sama_jafri wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I wanna know just one thing that is When I'll get married?

>

> My Birth Detail:

>

> TIME OF BIRTH: 15:20 (03:20p.m)

> DATE OF BIRTH: July 05, 1979.

> PLACE OF BIRTH CITY: Karachi

> CURRENT PLACE: Karachi

> STATE: Sind

> COUNTRY: Pakistan

> LATITUDE: 024:48:N

> LONGITUDE: 066:59:E

> GENDER: Female

> STATUS: Unmarried

>

> Eagerly waiting for your reply!

>

> Thanks and regards

>

> SaMa

>

>

> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash and Rajesh,

 

Thanxs for explaining all this.Few things are

still there which creates confusion as well, like...

 

1] Ratios of lagna, Moon, and sun beside showing disharmony in marriage and

this may also lead to more or less, some delay or act as a delay-causing

catalyst in my opinion.

No doubt,when delay ends and the coming antra is always ready for the event

whenever it get a chance as per rules. If not then these ratios will be

overpowered

by giving event after delay ends .The above aspect may not only belongs to

adjustments and unhappy marriage but also becomes a part of delay most

probabily.

Here i may be wrong but just a thought.

 

2] If so,,the marriage may also happen in 6th lord or in planet having less

points

in such cases.So, Jup antra is also eligible in first sector.

 

3] Regarding Desh, kaal and patra, as you say,i think even in pakistan this

might be

21yrs as earliest age of marriage,though i am not confirm,

As i am living on the border area too, border is just 9 KMs from here and

Pakistan area starts afterwards, sometimes i wonder that how timezone changes to

half an hour after few miles and rituals too, yes, Karachi is too far but

belongs to same country:) Suppose , two persons are born on the same borderline

in a country A and B,but in different timezone..!!

 

I am still learning as per your guidelines and Guru krushnaji blessings.

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Anup and Rajesh,

 

Both of u are on the right track. We must first confirm if the birth

time is right, also keep in mind the desh kaal paatra principle.

 

How does one decide if the marriage is early ?

 

In India we are taking 21 years as that is the legal age so all laws

are applied in accordance or based on that phenemona. So 21 years is

early marriage as per INDIAN LAW, and then full delay will be 3 signs

of sign of saturn traversed less the degrees of saturn. So if Sa is

at 0 degrees then delay is 27.5 as it takes saturn 7.5 years to

transit over 3 signs.

 

So keep this in mind. So when one studies marriage w.r.t other

countries, or even in India where such things are not followed, say in

some communities early marriage might be say 12/13 or so then in that

case delay might be 21 or 22 years so like that.

 

So it becomes imperative to find out what is considered early marriage

as per the community, country, place etc.

 

So as per this chart, this Lady was born in Pakistan, and so one must

find out what is considered an early marriage.

 

Also note when Krushnaji was timing the marriage of our late Peter ji,

who was in England at that time, Krushanji asked him, what would be

considered delay marriage and then based on that assumption he timed

the marriage to within day.

 

So here, Anup u are applying the laws of India i.e. u are taking

minimum age or early marriage at 21. Just think over what I am saying

here this is important.

 

Say in north america, marriages are later. Lets say early marriage

might be considered at 24 or so, so in that case, u have to consider

that as the starting point and then start your calculations as i have

given above.

 

So as per that, I do not know what is considered early marriage as per

Sama's community or even current surroundings.

 

So delay is there in marriage as both of you have found out, with the

current data. So we can say that first probable time is in Ra antra

as Ra is SD to Ve and Su. So lets hope that here Ra steps in for Ve

and Sun so 3rd sector is first probable strong chance. Yes, Ra is

more like Sun who has 12 points so its borderline and can go either

way and at same time its less like Venus who is better.

 

Now all this is assuming that the birth time is correct.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Raj Rajesh,

>

> Your approach is very nice.

> Yes, delay is there by Saturn.

> As the marriage seems to be on adjustments and there will be some

disharmony too.

> This can be seen from the Lagna, Moon, Sun ratios.

> So the marriage may be in antra of lowest points or 6th lord (Jup)

also.

> The delay ends in 16th May2005

> Rahu (Sun and Venus) is in house C

> Rahu cant be SD to Mercury though this in in Mercury navamsa.

> How Rahu antra will give the marriage?

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9 wrote:

> Hi Sama, Ash and Other list members,

>

> Pls correct my mistakes.

>

> I casted your chart, its a 26Libra14. First of all lets check the

imp factors for the marriage.

> 1) Jup is not in Libra

> 2) Ven sun difference is 14 degrees( normal)

> 3) Ven is not in bad NKTs

> 4) Sat does not aspect A,B and C houses

> 5) Sat Aspect LOB and LOA.

> 6) Sat aspect Moon in Rashi

> 7) Lord of Lagna and & 7 th Lord : 2:12, Moon signs lord and Lagna :

2;12 : Sun sign and 7th lord: 1:1

> 8) Sun is giving one zero in Ist house

>

>

> So there is a full delay. ( Pls confirm).

>

> Now Sama you are going though Sat/Rahu. Sat is the karka of 10th and

9th house.

> Rahu represent sun and Ven. In 11th house , sun has more points so

Rahu is more tilted towards Sun.

>

> In work sheet, Me - 31, Ve - 13, Su - 12 and all other planet less

points than 12.

> Now Rahu is in the Navamsha of Mercury and Mer has highest point.

But Mer is SD to Jup which is 6th lord( 12th from B). ( Please confirm

this - Is my understanding right on this).

> So Mer cannot give result for Rahu. But Mer is LOE and has highest

points in the WS so I think it can give result. Beacuse next antra is

of Jup ( 6th lord) and then Mer( its too late).

>

> Marriage should happen in the last sector that is 23 Dec 2007 to Dec

2008. To narrow down with the help of transit between 13 June to 4

July, 2008 Gemini sign and Nkt of Rahu( Ardara). ( Pls confirm this too).

>

> Ash, I am looking forward for your correction.

> Thanking You.

>

> Rajesh

>

>

>

> sama_jafri <sama_jafri wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I wanna know just one thing that is When I'll get married?

>

> My Birth Detail:

>

> TIME OF BIRTH: 15:20 (03:20p.m)

> DATE OF BIRTH: July 05, 1979.

> PLACE OF BIRTH CITY: Karachi

> CURRENT PLACE: Karachi

> STATE: Sind

> COUNTRY: Pakistan

> LATITUDE: 024:48:N

> LONGITUDE: 066:59:E

> GENDER: Female

> STATUS: Unmarried

>

> Eagerly waiting for your reply!

>

> Thanks and regards

>

> SaMa

>

>

> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash and Anup,

 

Thank you so much for the input. I am very eager to learn this system because

in my point of view, this is the only system on which you can rely on 100%. I

have studied other branches of astrology too but KAS is just great.

Ash you and other memebers are doing great job. Please keep correcting my

mistakes whenever I attempt.

Thanks again and God bless you.

 

Best Regards,

Rajesh

 

 

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Anup and Rajesh,

 

Both of u are on the right track. We must first confirm if the birth

time is right, also keep in mind the desh kaal paatra principle.

 

How does one decide if the marriage is early ?

 

In India we are taking 21 years as that is the legal age so all laws

are applied in accordance or based on that phenemona. So 21 years is

early marriage as per INDIAN LAW, and then full delay will be 3 signs

of sign of saturn traversed less the degrees of saturn. So if Sa is

at 0 degrees then delay is 27.5 as it takes saturn 7.5 years to

transit over 3 signs.

 

So keep this in mind. So when one studies marriage w.r.t other

countries, or even in India where such things are not followed, say in

some communities early marriage might be say 12/13 or so then in that

case delay might be 21 or 22 years so like that.

 

So it becomes imperative to find out what is considered early marriage

as per the community, country, place etc.

 

So as per this chart, this Lady was born in Pakistan, and so one must

find out what is considered an early marriage.

 

Also note when Krushnaji was timing the marriage of our late Peter ji,

who was in England at that time, Krushanji asked him, what would be

considered delay marriage and then based on that assumption he timed

the marriage to within day.

 

So here, Anup u are applying the laws of India i.e. u are taking

minimum age or early marriage at 21. Just think over what I am saying

here this is important.

 

Say in north america, marriages are later. Lets say early marriage

might be considered at 24 or so, so in that case, u have to consider

that as the starting point and then start your calculations as i have

given above.

 

So as per that, I do not know what is considered early marriage as per

Sama's community or even current surroundings.

 

So delay is there in marriage as both of you have found out, with the

current data. So we can say that first probable time is in Ra antra

as Ra is SD to Ve and Su. So lets hope that here Ra steps in for Ve

and Sun so 3rd sector is first probable strong chance. Yes, Ra is

more like Sun who has 12 points so its borderline and can go either

way and at same time its less like Venus who is better.

 

Now all this is assuming that the birth time is correct.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Raj Rajesh,

>

> Your approach is very nice.

> Yes, delay is there by Saturn.

> As the marriage seems to be on adjustments and there will be some

disharmony too.

> This can be seen from the Lagna, Moon, Sun ratios.

> So the marriage may be in antra of lowest points or 6th lord (Jup)

also.

> The delay ends in 16th May2005

> Rahu (Sun and Venus) is in house C

> Rahu cant be SD to Mercury though this in in Mercury navamsa.

> How Rahu antra will give the marriage?

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9 wrote:

> Hi Sama, Ash and Other list members,

>

> Pls correct my mistakes.

>

> I casted your chart, its a 26Libra14. First of all lets check the

imp factors for the marriage.

> 1) Jup is not in Libra

> 2) Ven sun difference is 14 degrees( normal)

> 3) Ven is not in bad NKTs

> 4) Sat does not aspect A,B and C houses

> 5) Sat Aspect LOB and LOA.

> 6) Sat aspect Moon in Rashi

> 7) Lord of Lagna and & 7 th Lord : 2:12, Moon signs lord and Lagna :

2;12 : Sun sign and 7th lord: 1:1

> 8) Sun is giving one zero in Ist house

>

>

> So there is a full delay. ( Pls confirm).

>

> Now Sama you are going though Sat/Rahu. Sat is the karka of 10th and

9th house.

> Rahu represent sun and Ven. In 11th house , sun has more points so

Rahu is more tilted towards Sun.

>

> In work sheet, Me - 31, Ve - 13, Su - 12 and all other planet less

points than 12.

> Now Rahu is in the Navamsha of Mercury and Mer has highest point.

But Mer is SD to Jup which is 6th lord( 12th from B). ( Please confirm

this - Is my understanding right on this).

> So Mer cannot give result for Rahu. But Mer is LOE and has highest

points in the WS so I think it can give result. Beacuse next antra is

of Jup ( 6th lord) and then Mer( its too late).

>

> Marriage should happen in the last sector that is 23 Dec 2007 to Dec

2008. To narrow down with the help of transit between 13 June to 4

July, 2008 Gemini sign and Nkt of Rahu( Ardara). ( Pls confirm this too).

>

> Ash, I am looking forward for your correction.

> Thanking You.

>

> Rajesh

>

>

>

> sama_jafri <sama_jafri wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I wanna know just one thing that is When I'll get married?

>

> My Birth Detail:

>

> TIME OF BIRTH: 15:20 (03:20p.m)

> DATE OF BIRTH: July 05, 1979.

> PLACE OF BIRTH CITY: Karachi

> CURRENT PLACE: Karachi

> STATE: Sind

> COUNTRY: Pakistan

> LATITUDE: 024:48:N

> LONGITUDE: 066:59:E

> GENDER: Female

> STATUS: Unmarried

>

> Eagerly waiting for your reply!

>

> Thanks and regards

>

> SaMa

>

>

> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Anup,

I was smiling when I read your reply. I have not said u are wrong,

but, in my analysis if u read my mail carefully, I went for more

positive result and that gives hope to the person and why not, as Ra

is SD to Ve (13) and Su (12). If that date goes, then we can study

this further and see.

I hope u understand what I am saying and what I am not.

 

Yes, I hear you about the border and time zone changing, and also

thats very dicey, in UK, the longitude is West but its BST -1:00 which

is sort of east, so it can get really confusing.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash and Rajesh,

>

> Thanxs for explaining all this.Few

things are still there which creates confusion as well, like...

>

> 1] Ratios of lagna, Moon, and sun beside showing disharmony in

marriage and this may also lead to more or less, some delay or act as

a delay-causing catalyst in my opinion.

> No doubt,when delay ends and the coming antra is always ready

for the event whenever it get a chance as per rules. If not then these

ratios will be overpowered

> by giving event after delay ends .The above aspect may not only

belongs to adjustments and unhappy marriage but also becomes a part of

delay most probabily.

> Here i may be wrong but just a thought.

>

> 2] If so,,the marriage may also happen in 6th lord or in planet

having less points

> in such cases.So, Jup antra is also eligible in first sector.

>

> 3] Regarding Desh, kaal and patra, as you say,i think even in

pakistan this might be

> 21yrs as earliest age of marriage,though i am not confirm,

> As i am living on the border area too, border is just 9 KMs from

here and Pakistan area starts afterwards, sometimes i wonder that how

timezone changes to half an hour after few miles and rituals too, yes,

Karachi is too far but belongs to same country:) Suppose , two persons

are born on the same borderline in a country A and B,but in different

timezone..!!

>

> I am still learning as per your guidelines and Guru krushnaji

blessings.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Anup and Rajesh,

>

> Both of u are on the right track. We must first confirm if the birth

> time is right, also keep in mind the desh kaal paatra principle.

>

> How does one decide if the marriage is early ?

>

> In India we are taking 21 years as that is the legal age so all laws

> are applied in accordance or based on that phenemona. So 21 years is

> early marriage as per INDIAN LAW, and then full delay will be 3 signs

> of sign of saturn traversed less the degrees of saturn. So if Sa is

> at 0 degrees then delay is 27.5 as it takes saturn 7.5 years to

> transit over 3 signs.

>

> So keep this in mind. So when one studies marriage w.r.t other

> countries, or even in India where such things are not followed, say in

> some communities early marriage might be say 12/13 or so then in that

> case delay might be 21 or 22 years so like that.

>

> So it becomes imperative to find out what is considered early marriage

> as per the community, country, place etc.

>

> So as per this chart, this Lady was born in Pakistan, and so one must

> find out what is considered an early marriage.

>

> Also note when Krushnaji was timing the marriage of our late Peter ji,

> who was in England at that time, Krushanji asked him, what would be

> considered delay marriage and then based on that assumption he timed

> the marriage to within day.

>

> So here, Anup u are applying the laws of India i.e. u are taking

> minimum age or early marriage at 21. Just think over what I am saying

> here this is important.

>

> Say in north america, marriages are later. Lets say early marriage

> might be considered at 24 or so, so in that case, u have to consider

> that as the starting point and then start your calculations as i have

> given above.

>

> So as per that, I do not know what is considered early marriage as per

> Sama's community or even current surroundings.

>

> So delay is there in marriage as both of you have found out, with the

> current data. So we can say that first probable time is in Ra antra

> as Ra is SD to Ve and Su. So lets hope that here Ra steps in for Ve

> and Sun so 3rd sector is first probable strong chance. Yes, Ra is

> more like Sun who has 12 points so its borderline and can go either

> way and at same time its less like Venus who is better.

>

> Now all this is assuming that the birth time is correct.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " Anup. M "

> <dalh_1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raj Rajesh,

> >

> > Your approach is very nice.

> > Yes, delay is there by Saturn.

> > As the marriage seems to be on adjustments and there will be some

> disharmony too.

> > This can be seen from the Lagna, Moon, Sun ratios.

> > So the marriage may be in antra of lowest points or 6th lord (Jup)

> also.

> > The delay ends in 16th May2005

> > Rahu (Sun and Venus) is in house C

> > Rahu cant be SD to Mercury though this in in Mercury navamsa.

> > How Rahu antra will give the marriage?

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:

> > Hi Sama, Ash and Other list members,

> >

> > Pls correct my mistakes.

> >

> > I casted your chart, its a 26Libra14. First of all lets check the

> imp factors for the marriage.

> > 1) Jup is not in Libra

> > 2) Ven sun difference is 14 degrees( normal)

> > 3) Ven is not in bad NKTs

> > 4) Sat does not aspect A,B and C houses

> > 5) Sat Aspect LOB and LOA.

> > 6) Sat aspect Moon in Rashi

> > 7) Lord of Lagna and & 7 th Lord : 2:12, Moon signs lord and Lagna :

> 2;12 : Sun sign and 7th lord: 1:1

> > 8) Sun is giving one zero in Ist house

> >

> >

> > So there is a full delay. ( Pls confirm).

> >

> > Now Sama you are going though Sat/Rahu. Sat is the karka of 10th and

> 9th house.

> > Rahu represent sun and Ven. In 11th house , sun has more points so

> Rahu is more tilted towards Sun.

> >

> > In work sheet, Me - 31, Ve - 13, Su - 12 and all other planet less

> points than 12.

> > Now Rahu is in the Navamsha of Mercury and Mer has highest point.

> But Mer is SD to Jup which is 6th lord( 12th from B). ( Please confirm

> this - Is my understanding right on this).

> > So Mer cannot give result for Rahu. But Mer is LOE and has highest

> points in the WS so I think it can give result. Beacuse next antra is

> of Jup ( 6th lord) and then Mer( its too late).

> >

> > Marriage should happen in the last sector that is 23 Dec 2007 to Dec

> 2008. To narrow down with the help of transit between 13 June to 4

> July, 2008 Gemini sign and Nkt of Rahu( Ardara). ( Pls confirm this

too).

> >

> > Ash, I am looking forward for your correction.

> > Thanking You.

> >

> > Rajesh

> >

> >

> >

> > sama_jafri <sama_jafri@> wrote:

> > Hi,

> >

> > I wanna know just one thing that is When I'll get married?

> >

> > My Birth Detail:

> >

> > TIME OF BIRTH: 15:20 (03:20p.m)

> > DATE OF BIRTH: July 05, 1979.

> > PLACE OF BIRTH CITY: Karachi

> > CURRENT PLACE: Karachi

> > STATE: Sind

> > COUNTRY: Pakistan

> > LATITUDE: 024:48:N

> > LONGITUDE: 066:59:E

> > GENDER: Female

> > STATUS: Unmarried

> >

> > Eagerly waiting for your reply!

> >

> > Thanks and regards

> >

> > SaMa

> >

> >

> > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

 

Being a good teacher, you always keep teaching us patiently

taking out your valuable time and efforts.I try to understand and read

repeatedily what you write for getting some meaning out of that and everytime i

get something new from this.So i have noway to be right when you give reading to

any chart in unique way.

Anyway,keep smiling and let me follow you, Ash:)

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Anup,

I was smiling when I read your reply. I have not said u are wrong,

but, in my analysis if u read my mail carefully, I went for more

positive result and that gives hope to the person and why not, as Ra

is SD to Ve (13) and Su (12). If that date goes, then we can study

this further and see.

I hope u understand what I am saying and what I am not.

 

Yes, I hear you about the border and time zone changing, and also

thats very dicey, in UK, the longitude is West but its BST -1:00 which

is sort of east, so it can get really confusing.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash and Rajesh,

>

> Thanxs for explaining all this.Few

things are still there which creates confusion as well, like...

>

> 1] Ratios of lagna, Moon, and sun beside showing disharmony in

marriage and this may also lead to more or less, some delay or act as

a delay-causing catalyst in my opinion.

> No doubt,when delay ends and the coming antra is always ready

for the event whenever it get a chance as per rules. If not then these

ratios will be overpowered

> by giving event after delay ends .The above aspect may not only

belongs to adjustments and unhappy marriage but also becomes a part of

delay most probabily.

> Here i may be wrong but just a thought.

>

> 2] If so,,the marriage may also happen in 6th lord or in planet

having less points

> in such cases.So, Jup antra is also eligible in first sector.

>

> 3] Regarding Desh, kaal and patra, as you say,i think even in

pakistan this might be

> 21yrs as earliest age of marriage,though i am not confirm,

> As i am living on the border area too, border is just 9 KMs from

here and Pakistan area starts afterwards, sometimes i wonder that how

timezone changes to half an hour after few miles and rituals too, yes,

Karachi is too far but belongs to same country:) Suppose , two persons

are born on the same borderline in a country A and B,but in different

timezone..!!

>

> I am still learning as per your guidelines and Guru krushnaji

blessings.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Anup and Rajesh,

>

> Both of u are on the right track. We must first confirm if the birth

> time is right, also keep in mind the desh kaal paatra principle.

>

> How does one decide if the marriage is early ?

>

> In India we are taking 21 years as that is the legal age so all laws

> are applied in accordance or based on that phenemona. So 21 years is

> early marriage as per INDIAN LAW, and then full delay will be 3 signs

> of sign of saturn traversed less the degrees of saturn. So if Sa is

> at 0 degrees then delay is 27.5 as it takes saturn 7.5 years to

> transit over 3 signs.

>

> So keep this in mind. So when one studies marriage w.r.t other

> countries, or even in India where such things are not followed, say in

> some communities early marriage might be say 12/13 or so then in that

> case delay might be 21 or 22 years so like that.

>

> So it becomes imperative to find out what is considered early marriage

> as per the community, country, place etc.

>

> So as per this chart, this Lady was born in Pakistan, and so one must

> find out what is considered an early marriage.

>

> Also note when Krushnaji was timing the marriage of our late Peter ji,

> who was in England at that time, Krushanji asked him, what would be

> considered delay marriage and then based on that assumption he timed

> the marriage to within day.

>

> So here, Anup u are applying the laws of India i.e. u are taking

> minimum age or early marriage at 21. Just think over what I am saying

> here this is important.

>

> Say in north america, marriages are later. Lets say early marriage

> might be considered at 24 or so, so in that case, u have to consider

> that as the starting point and then start your calculations as i have

> given above.

>

> So as per that, I do not know what is considered early marriage as per

> Sama's community or even current surroundings.

>

> So delay is there in marriage as both of you have found out, with the

> current data. So we can say that first probable time is in Ra antra

> as Ra is SD to Ve and Su. So lets hope that here Ra steps in for Ve

> and Sun so 3rd sector is first probable strong chance. Yes, Ra is

> more like Sun who has 12 points so its borderline and can go either

> way and at same time its less like Venus who is better.

>

> Now all this is assuming that the birth time is correct.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " Anup. M "

> <dalh_1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raj Rajesh,

> >

> > Your approach is very nice.

> > Yes, delay is there by Saturn.

> > As the marriage seems to be on adjustments and there will be some

> disharmony too.

> > This can be seen from the Lagna, Moon, Sun ratios.

> > So the marriage may be in antra of lowest points or 6th lord (Jup)

> also.

> > The delay ends in 16th May2005

> > Rahu (Sun and Venus) is in house C

> > Rahu cant be SD to Mercury though this in in Mercury navamsa.

> > How Rahu antra will give the marriage?

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:

> > Hi Sama, Ash and Other list members,

> >

> > Pls correct my mistakes.

> >

> > I casted your chart, its a 26Libra14. First of all lets check the

> imp factors for the marriage.

> > 1) Jup is not in Libra

> > 2) Ven sun difference is 14 degrees( normal)

> > 3) Ven is not in bad NKTs

> > 4) Sat does not aspect A,B and C houses

> > 5) Sat Aspect LOB and LOA.

> > 6) Sat aspect Moon in Rashi

> > 7) Lord of Lagna and & 7 th Lord : 2:12, Moon signs lord and Lagna :

> 2;12 : Sun sign and 7th lord: 1:1

> > 8) Sun is giving one zero in Ist house

> >

> >

> > So there is a full delay. ( Pls confirm).

> >

> > Now Sama you are going though Sat/Rahu. Sat is the karka of 10th and

> 9th house.

> > Rahu represent sun and Ven. In 11th house , sun has more points so

> Rahu is more tilted towards Sun.

> >

> > In work sheet, Me - 31, Ve - 13, Su - 12 and all other planet less

> points than 12.

> > Now Rahu is in the Navamsha of Mercury and Mer has highest point.

> But Mer is SD to Jup which is 6th lord( 12th from B). ( Please confirm

> this - Is my understanding right on this).

> > So Mer cannot give result for Rahu. But Mer is LOE and has highest

> points in the WS so I think it can give result. Beacuse next antra is

> of Jup ( 6th lord) and then Mer( its too late).

> >

> > Marriage should happen in the last sector that is 23 Dec 2007 to Dec

> 2008. To narrow down with the help of transit between 13 June to 4

> July, 2008 Gemini sign and Nkt of Rahu( Ardara). ( Pls confirm this

too).

> >

> > Ash, I am looking forward for your correction.

> > Thanking You.

> >

> > Rajesh

> >

> >

> >

> > sama_jafri <sama_jafri@> wrote:

> > Hi,

> >

> > I wanna know just one thing that is When I'll get married?

> >

> > My Birth Detail:

> >

> > TIME OF BIRTH: 15:20 (03:20p.m)

> > DATE OF BIRTH: July 05, 1979.

> > PLACE OF BIRTH CITY: Karachi

> > CURRENT PLACE: Karachi

> > STATE: Sind

> > COUNTRY: Pakistan

> > LATITUDE: 024:48:N

> > LONGITUDE: 066:59:E

> > GENDER: Female

> > STATUS: Unmarried

> >

> > Eagerly waiting for your reply!

> >

> > Thanks and regards

> >

> > SaMa

> >

> >

> > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Anup,

 

No, dont take what I say as gospel truth. We are just astrologers and

not God.

 

We are just seeing with our little knowledge which will grow with time

no doubt, and letting the blessings of Krushanji guide us.

 

So don't doubt your prediction at all. Tomorrow, just as u ask me

difficult questions, some of your students will ask u such questions,

that time remember me lol........

 

From learning process, if this chart came to u blindly, you would see

that there is delay in Sa and points in 7th house are lesser so

definitely delay will be there and this you can say with confidence.

 

Just to judge that much is not easy at all, let along timing of event.

 

So what u have achieved itself is a big thing, just think about it.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> Being a good teacher, you always keep teaching

us patiently taking out your valuable time and efforts.I try to

understand and read repeatedily what you write for getting some

meaning out of that and everytime i get something new from this.So i

have noway to be right when you give reading to any chart in unique

way.

> Anyway,keep smiling and let me follow you, Ash:)

>

> Regards

> Anup

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Anup,

> I was smiling when I read your reply. I have not said u are wrong,

> but, in my analysis if u read my mail carefully, I went for more

> positive result and that gives hope to the person and why not, as Ra

> is SD to Ve (13) and Su (12). If that date goes, then we can study

> this further and see.

> I hope u understand what I am saying and what I am not.

>

> Yes, I hear you about the border and time zone changing, and also

> thats very dicey, in UK, the longitude is West but its BST -1:00 which

> is sort of east, so it can get really confusing.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " Anup. M "

> <dalh_1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash and Rajesh,

> >

> > Thanxs for explaining all this.Few

> things are still there which creates confusion as well, like...

> >

> > 1] Ratios of lagna, Moon, and sun beside showing disharmony in

> marriage and this may also lead to more or less, some delay or act as

> a delay-causing catalyst in my opinion.

> > No doubt,when delay ends and the coming antra is always ready

> for the event whenever it get a chance as per rules. If not then these

> ratios will be overpowered

> > by giving event after delay ends .The above aspect may not only

> belongs to adjustments and unhappy marriage but also becomes a part of

> delay most probabily.

> > Here i may be wrong but just a thought.

> >

> > 2] If so,,the marriage may also happen in 6th lord or in planet

> having less points

> > in such cases.So, Jup antra is also eligible in first sector.

> >

> > 3] Regarding Desh, kaal and patra, as you say,i think even in

> pakistan this might be

> > 21yrs as earliest age of marriage,though i am not confirm,

> > As i am living on the border area too, border is just 9 KMs from

> here and Pakistan area starts afterwards, sometimes i wonder that how

> timezone changes to half an hour after few miles and rituals too, yes,

> Karachi is too far but belongs to same country:) Suppose , two persons

> are born on the same borderline in a country A and B,but in different

> timezone..!!

> >

> > I am still learning as per your guidelines and Guru krushnaji

> blessings.

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > Dear Anup and Rajesh,

> >

> > Both of u are on the right track. We must first confirm if the birth

> > time is right, also keep in mind the desh kaal paatra principle.

> >

> > How does one decide if the marriage is early ?

> >

> > In India we are taking 21 years as that is the legal age so all laws

> > are applied in accordance or based on that phenemona. So 21 years is

> > early marriage as per INDIAN LAW, and then full delay will be 3 signs

> > of sign of saturn traversed less the degrees of saturn. So if Sa is

> > at 0 degrees then delay is 27.5 as it takes saturn 7.5 years to

> > transit over 3 signs.

> >

> > So keep this in mind. So when one studies marriage w.r.t other

> > countries, or even in India where such things are not followed, say in

> > some communities early marriage might be say 12/13 or so then in that

> > case delay might be 21 or 22 years so like that.

> >

> > So it becomes imperative to find out what is considered early marriage

> > as per the community, country, place etc.

> >

> > So as per this chart, this Lady was born in Pakistan, and so one must

> > find out what is considered an early marriage.

> >

> > Also note when Krushnaji was timing the marriage of our late Peter ji,

> > who was in England at that time, Krushanji asked him, what would be

> > considered delay marriage and then based on that assumption he timed

> > the marriage to within day.

> >

> > So here, Anup u are applying the laws of India i.e. u are taking

> > minimum age or early marriage at 21. Just think over what I am saying

> > here this is important.

> >

> > Say in north america, marriages are later. Lets say early marriage

> > might be considered at 24 or so, so in that case, u have to consider

> > that as the starting point and then start your calculations as i have

> > given above.

> >

> > So as per that, I do not know what is considered early marriage as per

> > Sama's community or even current surroundings.

> >

> > So delay is there in marriage as both of you have found out, with the

> > current data. So we can say that first probable time is in Ra antra

> > as Ra is SD to Ve and Su. So lets hope that here Ra steps in for Ve

> > and Sun so 3rd sector is first probable strong chance. Yes, Ra is

> > more like Sun who has 12 points so its borderline and can go either

> > way and at same time its less like Venus who is better.

> >

> > Now all this is assuming that the birth time is correct.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " Anup. M "

> > <dalh_1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raj Rajesh,

> > >

> > > Your approach is very nice.

> > > Yes, delay is there by Saturn.

> > > As the marriage seems to be on adjustments and there will be some

> > disharmony too.

> > > This can be seen from the Lagna, Moon, Sun ratios.

> > > So the marriage may be in antra of lowest points or 6th lord (Jup)

> > also.

> > > The delay ends in 16th May2005

> > > Rahu (Sun and Venus) is in house C

> > > Rahu cant be SD to Mercury though this in in Mercury navamsa.

> > > How Rahu antra will give the marriage?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Anup

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:

> > > Hi Sama, Ash and Other list members,

> > >

> > > Pls correct my mistakes.

> > >

> > > I casted your chart, its a 26Libra14. First of all lets check the

> > imp factors for the marriage.

> > > 1) Jup is not in Libra

> > > 2) Ven sun difference is 14 degrees( normal)

> > > 3) Ven is not in bad NKTs

> > > 4) Sat does not aspect A,B and C houses

> > > 5) Sat Aspect LOB and LOA.

> > > 6) Sat aspect Moon in Rashi

> > > 7) Lord of Lagna and & 7 th Lord : 2:12, Moon signs lord and Lagna :

> > 2;12 : Sun sign and 7th lord: 1:1

> > > 8) Sun is giving one zero in Ist house

> > >

> > >

> > > So there is a full delay. ( Pls confirm).

> > >

> > > Now Sama you are going though Sat/Rahu. Sat is the karka of 10th and

> > 9th house.

> > > Rahu represent sun and Ven. In 11th house , sun has more points so

> > Rahu is more tilted towards Sun.

> > >

> > > In work sheet, Me - 31, Ve - 13, Su - 12 and all other planet less

> > points than 12.

> > > Now Rahu is in the Navamsha of Mercury and Mer has highest point.

> > But Mer is SD to Jup which is 6th lord( 12th from B). ( Please confirm

> > this - Is my understanding right on this).

> > > So Mer cannot give result for Rahu. But Mer is LOE and has highest

> > points in the WS so I think it can give result. Beacuse next antra is

> > of Jup ( 6th lord) and then Mer( its too late).

> > >

> > > Marriage should happen in the last sector that is 23 Dec 2007 to Dec

> > 2008. To narrow down with the help of transit between 13 June to 4

> > July, 2008 Gemini sign and Nkt of Rahu( Ardara). ( Pls confirm this

> too).

> > >

> > > Ash, I am looking forward for your correction.

> > > Thanking You.

> > >

> > > Rajesh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sama_jafri <sama_jafri@> wrote:

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I wanna know just one thing that is When I'll get married?

> > >

> > > My Birth Detail:

> > >

> > > TIME OF BIRTH: 15:20 (03:20p.m)

> > > DATE OF BIRTH: July 05, 1979.

> > > PLACE OF BIRTH CITY: Karachi

> > > CURRENT PLACE: Karachi

> > > STATE: Sind

> > > COUNTRY: Pakistan

> > > LATITUDE: 024:48:N

> > > LONGITUDE: 066:59:E

> > > GENDER: Female

> > > STATUS: Unmarried

> > >

> > > Eagerly waiting for your reply!

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards

> > >

> > > SaMa

> > >

> > >

> > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on

Travel.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

 

I ahve not casted the chart with WS , but with JHHora

I see that Guru aspects mangal LOA and B is navansha.

With Krushna ayanasha it may not be so. Also I am not

yet convinced about aspects in amshas. I know KAS uses

them so I wanted to point out out that there may be

guru delay as well.

 

Satish

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

> Dear Anup,

>

> No, dont take what I say as gospel truth. We are

> just astrologers and

> not God.

>

> We are just seeing with our little knowledge which

> will grow with time

> no doubt, and letting the blessings of Krushanji

> guide us.

>

> So don't doubt your prediction at all. Tomorrow,

> just as u ask me

> difficult questions, some of your students will ask

> u such questions,

> that time remember me lol........

>

> From learning process, if this chart came to u

> blindly, you would see

> that there is delay in Sa and points in 7th house

> are lesser so

> definitely delay will be there and this you can say

> with confidence.

>

> Just to judge that much is not easy at all, let

> along timing of event.

>

> So what u have achieved itself is a big thing, just

> think about it.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> ,

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Satish,

 

Ju is in 10th house in Rasi so it aspects House A but its not

aspecting Mars or 7th house in Rasi or navamsa (i.e aspecting 7th lord

mars in navamsa).

Which is a way its good, as if Ju being 6th lord aspects Mars i.e LoA

and LoB might cause separation from spouse in its antra as Ju is 6th

lord and its in unccha sthan and with 6 bindus.

 

So here Ju will not cause delay.

 

About aspects in Navamsa, its ok you to have reservations, as long as

u know from KAS view point, so u can in time test those and then come

to a conclusion yourself.

 

So let your own experience guide you.

 

Aspects are only in navamsa, and that too Sa in 5th house in special

case where it aspects house ABC. So here we do not consider house

lord of navamsa. So there is a big difference.

 

Even, SAV is casted for all D charts and that is based on relative

positioning of planets which is based on distribution of planets to a

house from where they are in all the respective d chart.

 

Here in KAS u have framework, and rest is its application on charts

and to see for yourself, and that also goes for ayanamsa.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

, SPK

<aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> I ahve not casted the chart with WS , but with JHHora

> I see that Guru aspects mangal LOA and B is navansha.

> With Krushna ayanasha it may not be so. Also I am not

> yet convinced about aspects in amshas. I know KAS uses

> them so I wanted to point out out that there may be

> guru delay as well.

>

> Satish

> --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Anup,

> >

> > No, dont take what I say as gospel truth. We are

> > just astrologers and

> > not God.

> >

> > We are just seeing with our little knowledge which

> > will grow with time

> > no doubt, and letting the blessings of Krushanji

> > guide us.

> >

> > So don't doubt your prediction at all. Tomorrow,

> > just as u ask me

> > difficult questions, some of your students will ask

> > u such questions,

> > that time remember me lol........

> >

> > From learning process, if this chart came to u

> > blindly, you would see

> > that there is delay in Sa and points in 7th house

> > are lesser so

> > definitely delay will be there and this you can say

> > with confidence.

> >

> > Just to judge that much is not easy at all, let

> > along timing of event.

> >

> > So what u have achieved itself is a big thing, just

> > think about it.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

>

>

>

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Dear Satish,

 

read this

 

" Aspects are only in navamsa, and that too Sa in 5th house in special

case where it aspects house ABC. So here we do not consider house

lord of navamsa. So there is a big difference. "

 

in reference to Marriage or 7th house.

 

Otherwise, for general, sa in any house will delay 3rd house from

where it is situated. So sa in 8th in navamsa will delay 10th house

matters, subject to other conditions.

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Satish,

>

> Ju is in 10th house in Rasi so it aspects House A but its not

> aspecting Mars or 7th house in Rasi or navamsa (i.e aspecting 7th lord

> mars in navamsa).

> Which is a way its good, as if Ju being 6th lord aspects Mars i.e LoA

> and LoB might cause separation from spouse in its antra as Ju is 6th

> lord and its in unccha sthan and with 6 bindus.

>

> So here Ju will not cause delay.

>

> About aspects in Navamsa, its ok you to have reservations, as long as

> u know from KAS view point, so u can in time test those and then come

> to a conclusion yourself.

>

> So let your own experience guide you.

>

> Aspects are only in navamsa, and that too Sa in 5th house in special

> case where it aspects house ABC. So here we do not consider house

> lord of navamsa. So there is a big difference.

>

> Even, SAV is casted for all D charts and that is based on relative

> positioning of planets which is based on distribution of planets to a

> house from where they are in all the respective d chart.

>

> Here in KAS u have framework, and rest is its application on charts

> and to see for yourself, and that also goes for ayanamsa.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

>

> , SPK

> <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > I ahve not casted the chart with WS , but with JHHora

> > I see that Guru aspects mangal LOA and B is navansha.

> > With Krushna ayanasha it may not be so. Also I am not

> > yet convinced about aspects in amshas. I know KAS uses

> > them so I wanted to point out out that there may be

> > guru delay as well.

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Anup,

> > >

> > > No, dont take what I say as gospel truth. We are

> > > just astrologers and

> > > not God.

> > >

> > > We are just seeing with our little knowledge which

> > > will grow with time

> > > no doubt, and letting the blessings of Krushanji

> > > guide us.

> > >

> > > So don't doubt your prediction at all. Tomorrow,

> > > just as u ask me

> > > difficult questions, some of your students will ask

> > > u such questions,

> > > that time remember me lol........

> > >

> > > From learning process, if this chart came to u

> > > blindly, you would see

> > > that there is delay in Sa and points in 7th house

> > > are lesser so

> > > definitely delay will be there and this you can say

> > > with confidence.

> > >

> > > Just to judge that much is not easy at all, let

> > > along timing of event.

> > >

> > > So what u have achieved itself is a big thing, just

> > > think about it.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Satish,

 

Its also important to understand that for finding the power of say

NAvamsa or any other D chart we do not take power transfer during

aspects nor 4:10 power. So in that way its not considered for amsha.

 

However that is done in Rasi. This is important.

 

So it depends, if u say are seeing if sa and ve or mo and sun and ma

are in 1:7 then its still taken as enmity in navamsa and they cease to

become SD.

 

Then again we cast SAV in all D charts so method of that u know so it

means that house must be there to distribute the power othewise we

cant cast SAV.

 

In all other D charts we only take power of A+B+C means no aspect

strength nor 4:10 which is only from Rasi.

 

But we do use Navamsa to check the aspect of LoA, LoB and LoC from

Rasi in navmsa so that way we are giving importance to Navamsa and

also the fact that Sa is only planet that can have aspect on all 3

houses i.e. ABC, so it will delay 3rd house matters from where its

situated, and since we given equal importance to Rasi this is special

an this is restricted to Navamsa only.

 

So here so many things we do but for POWER IN NAVAMSA OR D CHART we do

not take power from Aspect or 4:10 or aspect of planets on House ABC

of navamsa of D chart so in that way Aspects are not taken or considered.

 

So its not very simple nor is it plain black or white, but its

important to understand where we consider the aspect and for what

purpose and in what case its not considered.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

, SPK

<aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> I ahve not casted the chart with WS , but with JHHora

> I see that Guru aspects mangal LOA and B is navansha.

> With Krushna ayanasha it may not be so. Also I am not

> yet convinced about aspects in amshas. I know KAS uses

> them so I wanted to point out out that there may be

> guru delay as well.

>

> Satish

> --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Anup,

> >

> > No, dont take what I say as gospel truth. We are

> > just astrologers and

> > not God.

> >

> > We are just seeing with our little knowledge which

> > will grow with time

> > no doubt, and letting the blessings of Krushanji

> > guide us.

> >

> > So don't doubt your prediction at all. Tomorrow,

> > just as u ask me

> > difficult questions, some of your students will ask

> > u such questions,

> > that time remember me lol........

> >

> > From learning process, if this chart came to u

> > blindly, you would see

> > that there is delay in Sa and points in 7th house

> > are lesser so

> > definitely delay will be there and this you can say

> > with confidence.

> >

> > Just to judge that much is not easy at all, let

> > along timing of event.

> >

> > So what u have achieved itself is a big thing, just

> > think about it.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

>

>

>

>

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Dear Ash,

Thanks. Somehow I had guru aspecting mangal in navasha

with JH Hora. Anyway the Sa delay you mentioned about.

Like in 8th will delay matters of 3rd from it, so in

8th in navansha will delay 10th house matters. Is this

taken only in rashi and navansha ? Or you use it in

other divisions as well ? What about shani in 8th from

dashamsha lagna ?

 

Satish

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

> Dear Satish,

>

> Ju is in 10th house in Rasi so it aspects House A

> but its not

> aspecting Mars or 7th house in Rasi or navamsa (i.e

> aspecting 7th lord

> mars in navamsa).

> Which is a way its good, as if Ju being 6th lord

> aspects Mars i.e LoA

> and LoB might cause separation from spouse in its

> antra as Ju is 6th

> lord and its in unccha sthan and with 6 bindus.

>

> So here Ju will not cause delay.

>

> About aspects in Navamsa, its ok you to have

> reservations, as long as

> u know from KAS view point, so u can in time test

> those and then come

> to a conclusion yourself.

>

> So let your own experience guide you.

>

> Aspects are only in navamsa, and that too Sa in 5th

> house in special

> case where it aspects house ABC. So here we do not

> consider house

> lord of navamsa. So there is a big difference.

>

> Even, SAV is casted for all D charts and that is

> based on relative

> positioning of planets which is based on

> distribution of planets to a

> house from where they are in all the respective d

> chart.

>

> Here in KAS u have framework, and rest is its

> application on charts

> and to see for yourself, and that also goes for

> ayanamsa.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

>

> , SPK

> <aquaris_rising wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > I ahve not casted the chart with WS , but with

> JHHora

> > I see that Guru aspects mangal LOA and B is

> navansha.

> > With Krushna ayanasha it may not be so. Also I am

> not

> > yet convinced about aspects in amshas. I know KAS

> uses

> > them so I wanted to point out out that there may

> be

> > guru delay as well.

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Anup,

> > >

> > > No, dont take what I say as gospel truth. We

> are

> > > just astrologers and

> > > not God.

> > >

> > > We are just seeing with our little knowledge

> which

> > > will grow with time

> > > no doubt, and letting the blessings of Krushanji

> > > guide us.

> > >

> > > So don't doubt your prediction at all.

> Tomorrow,

> > > just as u ask me

> > > difficult questions, some of your students will

> ask

> > > u such questions,

> > > that time remember me lol........

> > >

> > > From learning process, if this chart came to u

> > > blindly, you would see

> > > that there is delay in Sa and points in 7th

> house

> > > are lesser so

> > > definitely delay will be there and this you can

> say

> > > with confidence.

> > >

> > > Just to judge that much is not easy at all, let

> > > along timing of event.

> > >

> > > So what u have achieved itself is a big thing,

> just

> > > think about it.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hi to all (Raj ji, Anup ji, spk & Ash ji),

 

My birth certificate says, I was born at 03:20 or 25 in afternoon.

In Pakistan, we are taking 18 to 20 years as early marriage & after 25

years delay marriage.

 

If you want to ask any other information plz let me know.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

SaMa

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Anup,

>

> No, dont take what I say as gospel truth. We are just astrologers and

> not God.

>

> We are just seeing with our little knowledge which will grow with time

> no doubt, and letting the blessings of Krushanji guide us.

>

> So don't doubt your prediction at all. Tomorrow, just as u ask me

> difficult questions, some of your students will ask u such questions,

> that time remember me lol........

>

> From learning process, if this chart came to u blindly, you would see

> that there is delay in Sa and points in 7th house are lesser so

> definitely delay will be there and this you can say with confidence.

>

> Just to judge that much is not easy at all, let along timing of event.

>

> So what u have achieved itself is a big thing, just think about it.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " Anup. M "

> <dalh_1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Being a good teacher, you always keep teaching

> us patiently taking out your valuable time and efforts.I try to

> understand and read repeatedily what you write for getting some

> meaning out of that and everytime i get something new from this.So i

> have noway to be right when you give reading to any chart in unique

> way.

> > Anyway,keep smiling and let me follow you, Ash:)

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > Dear Anup,

> > I was smiling when I read your reply. I have not said u are wrong,

> > but, in my analysis if u read my mail carefully, I went for more

> > positive result and that gives hope to the person and why not, as Ra

> > is SD to Ve (13) and Su (12). If that date goes, then we can study

> > this further and see.

> > I hope u understand what I am saying and what I am not.

> >

> > Yes, I hear you about the border and time zone changing, and also

> > thats very dicey, in UK, the longitude is West but its BST -1:00 which

> > is sort of east, so it can get really confusing.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " Anup. M "

> > <dalh_1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash and Rajesh,

> > >

> > > Thanxs for explaining all this.Few

> > things are still there which creates confusion as well, like...

> > >

> > > 1] Ratios of lagna, Moon, and sun beside showing disharmony in

> > marriage and this may also lead to more or less, some delay or act as

> > a delay-causing catalyst in my opinion.

> > > No doubt,when delay ends and the coming antra is always ready

> > for the event whenever it get a chance as per rules. If not then these

> > ratios will be overpowered

> > > by giving event after delay ends .The above aspect may not only

> > belongs to adjustments and unhappy marriage but also becomes a part of

> > delay most probabily.

> > > Here i may be wrong but just a thought.

> > >

> > > 2] If so,,the marriage may also happen in 6th lord or in planet

> > having less points

> > > in such cases.So, Jup antra is also eligible in first sector.

> > >

> > > 3] Regarding Desh, kaal and patra, as you say,i think even in

> > pakistan this might be

> > > 21yrs as earliest age of marriage,though i am not confirm,

> > > As i am living on the border area too, border is just 9 KMs from

> > here and Pakistan area starts afterwards, sometimes i wonder that how

> > timezone changes to half an hour after few miles and rituals too, yes,

> > Karachi is too far but belongs to same country:) Suppose , two persons

> > are born on the same borderline in a country A and B,but in different

> > timezone..!!

> > >

> > > I am still learning as per your guidelines and Guru krushnaji

> > blessings.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Anup

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > Dear Anup and Rajesh,

> > >

> > > Both of u are on the right track. We must first confirm if the birth

> > > time is right, also keep in mind the desh kaal paatra principle.

> > >

> > > How does one decide if the marriage is early ?

> > >

> > > In India we are taking 21 years as that is the legal age so all laws

> > > are applied in accordance or based on that phenemona. So 21 years is

> > > early marriage as per INDIAN LAW, and then full delay will be 3

signs

> > > of sign of saturn traversed less the degrees of saturn. So if Sa is

> > > at 0 degrees then delay is 27.5 as it takes saturn 7.5 years to

> > > transit over 3 signs.

> > >

> > > So keep this in mind. So when one studies marriage w.r.t other

> > > countries, or even in India where such things are not followed,

say in

> > > some communities early marriage might be say 12/13 or so then in

that

> > > case delay might be 21 or 22 years so like that.

> > >

> > > So it becomes imperative to find out what is considered early

marriage

> > > as per the community, country, place etc.

> > >

> > > So as per this chart, this Lady was born in Pakistan, and so one

must

> > > find out what is considered an early marriage.

> > >

> > > Also note when Krushnaji was timing the marriage of our late

Peter ji,

> > > who was in England at that time, Krushanji asked him, what would be

> > > considered delay marriage and then based on that assumption he timed

> > > the marriage to within day.

> > >

> > > So here, Anup u are applying the laws of India i.e. u are taking

> > > minimum age or early marriage at 21. Just think over what I am

saying

> > > here this is important.

> > >

> > > Say in north america, marriages are later. Lets say early marriage

> > > might be considered at 24 or so, so in that case, u have to consider

> > > that as the starting point and then start your calculations as i

have

> > > given above.

> > >

> > > So as per that, I do not know what is considered early marriage

as per

> > > Sama's community or even current surroundings.

> > >

> > > So delay is there in marriage as both of you have found out,

with the

> > > current data. So we can say that first probable time is in Ra antra

> > > as Ra is SD to Ve and Su. So lets hope that here Ra steps in for Ve

> > > and Sun so 3rd sector is first probable strong chance. Yes, Ra is

> > > more like Sun who has 12 points so its borderline and can go either

> > > way and at same time its less like Venus who is better.

> > >

> > > Now all this is assuming that the birth time is correct.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > , " Anup. M "

> > > <dalh_1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Raj Rajesh,

> > > >

> > > > Your approach is very nice.

> > > > Yes, delay is there by Saturn.

> > > > As the marriage seems to be on adjustments and there will be some

> > > disharmony too.

> > > > This can be seen from the Lagna, Moon, Sun ratios.

> > > > So the marriage may be in antra of lowest points or 6th lord (Jup)

> > > also.

> > > > The delay ends in 16th May2005

> > > > Rahu (Sun and Venus) is in house C

> > > > Rahu cant be SD to Mercury though this in in Mercury navamsa.

> > > > How Rahu antra will give the marriage?

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Anup

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:

> > > > Hi Sama, Ash and Other list members,

> > > >

> > > > Pls correct my mistakes.

> > > >

> > > > I casted your chart, its a 26Libra14. First of all lets check the

> > > imp factors for the marriage.

> > > > 1) Jup is not in Libra

> > > > 2) Ven sun difference is 14 degrees( normal)

> > > > 3) Ven is not in bad NKTs

> > > > 4) Sat does not aspect A,B and C houses

> > > > 5) Sat Aspect LOB and LOA.

> > > > 6) Sat aspect Moon in Rashi

> > > > 7) Lord of Lagna and & 7 th Lord : 2:12, Moon signs lord and

Lagna :

> > > 2;12 : Sun sign and 7th lord: 1:1

> > > > 8) Sun is giving one zero in Ist house

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So there is a full delay. ( Pls confirm).

> > > >

> > > > Now Sama you are going though Sat/Rahu. Sat is the karka of

10th and

> > > 9th house.

> > > > Rahu represent sun and Ven. In 11th house , sun has more points so

> > > Rahu is more tilted towards Sun.

> > > >

> > > > In work sheet, Me - 31, Ve - 13, Su - 12 and all other planet less

> > > points than 12.

> > > > Now Rahu is in the Navamsha of Mercury and Mer has highest point.

> > > But Mer is SD to Jup which is 6th lord( 12th from B). ( Please

confirm

> > > this - Is my understanding right on this).

> > > > So Mer cannot give result for Rahu. But Mer is LOE and has highest

> > > points in the WS so I think it can give result. Beacuse next

antra is

> > > of Jup ( 6th lord) and then Mer( its too late).

> > > >

> > > > Marriage should happen in the last sector that is 23 Dec 2007

to Dec

> > > 2008. To narrow down with the help of transit between 13 June to 4

> > > July, 2008 Gemini sign and Nkt of Rahu( Ardara). ( Pls confirm this

> > too).

> > > >

> > > > Ash, I am looking forward for your correction.

> > > > Thanking You.

> > > >

> > > > Rajesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sama_jafri <sama_jafri@> wrote:

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I wanna know just one thing that is When I'll get married?

> > > >

> > > > My Birth Detail:

> > > >

> > > > TIME OF BIRTH: 15:20 (03:20p.m)

> > > > DATE OF BIRTH: July 05, 1979.

> > > > PLACE OF BIRTH CITY: Karachi

> > > > CURRENT PLACE: Karachi

> > > > STATE: Sind

> > > > COUNTRY: Pakistan

> > > > LATITUDE: 024:48:N

> > > > LONGITUDE: 066:59:E

> > > > GENDER: Female

> > > > STATUS: Unmarried

> > > >

> > > > Eagerly waiting for your reply!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards

> > > >

> > > > SaMa

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Satish,

 

Sa in 8th in navamsa, means the jatak will not get success

immediately. Most importantly we must see the WS.

 

Next, we also say planets in 6th, 8th or 12th house in D charts means

its not good.

 

So Sa in 8th house in D-10 means some problems as per above.

 

Now, SAV is casted in D-Charts and when we do that we distribute the

power of planets i.e. lagna and 7 planets in 12 houses only then we

can get SAV.

 

In D chart say D10 when finding strength of 10th house we will add

A+B+C points so the SAV power of the planet lets take Sa as u took

that in your example, so power that Sa has in 5th, 10th and 2nd house

so in short the basic strength.

 

Most important is Rasi WS. Navamsa we give equal weightage as Rasi

and that I have explained how we see the aspects in Navamsa in my

previous mail, and all other D-Charts are support only.

 

When casting the WS for D charts, only A+B+C power is taken, and for

that we must first cast the SAV in all the D charts. So if Navamsa is

taken as a D chart then only A+B+C.

 

For finding delay navamsa is important as we will check if for example

if Sa is aspecting Rasi's lord ABC in navamsa or if Sa is aspecting

house ABC in navamsa, similarly for Ju, if ju aspects loa and lob then

it means delay.

 

Hope its clear,

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, SPK

<aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

> Thanks. Somehow I had guru aspecting mangal in navasha

> with JH Hora. Anyway the Sa delay you mentioned about.

> Like in 8th will delay matters of 3rd from it, so in

> 8th in navansha will delay 10th house matters. Is this

> taken only in rashi and navansha ? Or you use it in

> other divisions as well ? What about shani in 8th from

> dashamsha lagna ?

>

> Satish

> --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Satish,

> >

> > Ju is in 10th house in Rasi so it aspects House A

> > but its not

> > aspecting Mars or 7th house in Rasi or navamsa (i.e

> > aspecting 7th lord

> > mars in navamsa).

> > Which is a way its good, as if Ju being 6th lord

> > aspects Mars i.e LoA

> > and LoB might cause separation from spouse in its

> > antra as Ju is 6th

> > lord and its in unccha sthan and with 6 bindus.

> >

> > So here Ju will not cause delay.

> >

> > About aspects in Navamsa, its ok you to have

> > reservations, as long as

> > u know from KAS view point, so u can in time test

> > those and then come

> > to a conclusion yourself.

> >

> > So let your own experience guide you.

> >

> > Aspects are only in navamsa, and that too Sa in 5th

> > house in special

> > case where it aspects house ABC. So here we do not

> > consider house

> > lord of navamsa. So there is a big difference.

> >

> > Even, SAV is casted for all D charts and that is

> > based on relative

> > positioning of planets which is based on

> > distribution of planets to a

> > house from where they are in all the respective d

> > chart.

> >

> > Here in KAS u have framework, and rest is its

> > application on charts

> > and to see for yourself, and that also goes for

> > ayanamsa.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , SPK

> > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > I ahve not casted the chart with WS , but with

> > JHHora

> > > I see that Guru aspects mangal LOA and B is

> > navansha.

> > > With Krushna ayanasha it may not be so. Also I am

> > not

> > > yet convinced about aspects in amshas. I know KAS

> > uses

> > > them so I wanted to point out out that there may

> > be

> > > guru delay as well.

> > >

> > > Satish

> > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Anup,

> > > >

> > > > No, dont take what I say as gospel truth. We

> > are

> > > > just astrologers and

> > > > not God.

> > > >

> > > > We are just seeing with our little knowledge

> > which

> > > > will grow with time

> > > > no doubt, and letting the blessings of Krushanji

> > > > guide us.

> > > >

> > > > So don't doubt your prediction at all.

> > Tomorrow,

> > > > just as u ask me

> > > > difficult questions, some of your students will

> > ask

> > > > u such questions,

> > > > that time remember me lol........

> > > >

> > > > From learning process, if this chart came to u

> > > > blindly, you would see

> > > > that there is delay in Sa and points in 7th

> > house

> > > > are lesser so

> > > > definitely delay will be there and this you can

> > say

> > > > with confidence.

> > > >

> > > > Just to judge that much is not easy at all, let

> > > > along timing of event.

> > > >

> > > > So what u have achieved itself is a big thing,

> > just

> > > > think about it.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Ash,

 

Thanks.

 

How does one calculate delay for something like a job

? Do you take the delay for the first job ? So shani

in 8th in the rashi chart should delay 10th house

matters. SO is the delay for 27.5 years say for first

job of authority ? As job is a continuous process and

not a one time event.

 

Also I am assuming that you do not look for delay in

dashamsha ? Meaning shani in 8th in dashamsha does not

mean it aspects A,B,C houses for 10th house. You only

look at the lords in navansha. Do you also look for

them in dashamsha ?

 

What if there is delay ue to aspects on lords in

navansha for 10th house matters but not in dashamsha

for 10th house matters. Which one will you give

preference to for 10th house matters.

 

Thanks

 

Satish

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

> Dear Satish,

>

> Sa in 8th in navamsa, means the jatak will not get

> success

> immediately. Most importantly we must see the WS.

>

> Next, we also say planets in 6th, 8th or 12th house

> in D charts means

> its not good.

>

> So Sa in 8th house in D-10 means some problems as

> per above.

>

> Now, SAV is casted in D-Charts and when we do that

> we distribute the

> power of planets i.e. lagna and 7 planets in 12

> houses only then we

> can get SAV.

>

> In D chart say D10 when finding strength of 10th

> house we will add

> A+B+C points so the SAV power of the planet lets

> take Sa as u took

> that in your example, so power that Sa has in 5th,

> 10th and 2nd house

> so in short the basic strength.

>

> Most important is Rasi WS. Navamsa we give equal

> weightage as Rasi

> and that I have explained how we see the aspects in

> Navamsa in my

> previous mail, and all other D-Charts are support

> only.

>

> When casting the WS for D charts, only A+B+C power

> is taken, and for

> that we must first cast the SAV in all the D charts.

> So if Navamsa is

> taken as a D chart then only A+B+C.

>

> For finding delay navamsa is important as we will

> check if for example

> if Sa is aspecting Rasi's lord ABC in navamsa or if

> Sa is aspecting

> house ABC in navamsa, similarly for Ju, if ju

> aspects loa and lob then

> it means delay.

>

> Hope its clear,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , SPK

> <aquaris_rising wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> > Thanks. Somehow I had guru aspecting mangal in

> navasha

> > with JH Hora. Anyway the Sa delay you mentioned

> about.

> > Like in 8th will delay matters of 3rd from it, so

> in

> > 8th in navansha will delay 10th house matters. Is

> this

> > taken only in rashi and navansha ? Or you use it

> in

> > other divisions as well ? What about shani in 8th

> from

> > dashamsha lagna ?

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Satish,

> > >

> > > Ju is in 10th house in Rasi so it aspects House

> A

> > > but its not

> > > aspecting Mars or 7th house in Rasi or navamsa

> (i.e

> > > aspecting 7th lord

> > > mars in navamsa).

> > > Which is a way its good, as if Ju being 6th lord

> > > aspects Mars i.e LoA

> > > and LoB might cause separation from spouse in

> its

> > > antra as Ju is 6th

> > > lord and its in unccha sthan and with 6 bindus.

> > >

> > > So here Ju will not cause delay.

> > >

> > > About aspects in Navamsa, its ok you to have

> > > reservations, as long as

> > > u know from KAS view point, so u can in time

> test

> > > those and then come

> > > to a conclusion yourself.

> > >

> > > So let your own experience guide you.

> > >

> > > Aspects are only in navamsa, and that too Sa in

> 5th

> > > house in special

> > > case where it aspects house ABC. So here we do

> not

> > > consider house

> > > lord of navamsa. So there is a big difference.

> > >

> > > Even, SAV is casted for all D charts and that is

> > > based on relative

> > > positioning of planets which is based on

> > > distribution of planets to a

> > > house from where they are in all the respective

> d

> > > chart.

> > >

> > > Here in KAS u have framework, and rest is its

> > > application on charts

> > > and to see for yourself, and that also goes for

> > > ayanamsa.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> SPK

> > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > I ahve not casted the chart with WS , but with

> > > JHHora

> > > > I see that Guru aspects mangal LOA and B is

> > > navansha.

> > > > With Krushna ayanasha it may not be so. Also I

> am

> > > not

> > > > yet convinced about aspects in amshas. I know

> KAS

> > > uses

> > > > them so I wanted to point out out that there

> may

> > > be

> > > > guru delay as well.

> > > >

> > > > Satish

> > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Anup,

> > > > >

> > > > > No, dont take what I say as gospel truth.

> We

> > > are

> > > > > just astrologers and

> > > > > not God.

> > > > >

> > > > > We are just seeing with our little knowledge

> > > which

> > > > > will grow with time

> > > > > no doubt, and letting the blessings of

> Krushanji

> > > > > guide us.

> > > > >

> > > > > So don't doubt your prediction at all.

> > > Tomorrow,

> > > > > just as u ask me

> > > > > difficult questions, some of your students

> will

> > > ask

> > > > > u such questions,

> > > > > that time remember me lol........

> > > > >

> > > > > From learning process, if this chart came to

> u

> > > > > blindly, you would see

> > > > > that there is delay in Sa and points in 7th

> > > house

> > > > > are lesser so

> > > > > definitely delay will be there and this you

> can

> > > say

> > > > > with confidence.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just to judge that much is not easy at all,

> let

> > > > > along timing of event.

> > > > >

> > > > > So what u have achieved itself is a big

> thing,

> > > just

> > > > > think about it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> ,

> > > >

>

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Dear Satish,

My reply in CAPS below yours.

 

, SPK

<aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> Thanks.

>

> How does one calculate delay for something like a job

> ? Do you take the delay for the first job ? So shani

> in 8th in the rashi chart should delay 10th house

> matters. SO is the delay for 27.5 years say for first

> job of authority ? As job is a continuous process and

> not a one time event.

 

ASH: NO, NOT LIKE THAT. WHEN ONE FINISHES STUDIES AND IF ONE IS

READY TO DO A JOB THEN THERE IS NO MATTER FOR DELAY. U CAN CHECK THE

ANTRA RUNNING, TRANSITS OF SA AND JU, PDFS ETC AND FIND THE PROBABLE

TIME.

 

WE CHECK DELAY IN PLACE WHERE DELAY IS TO BE CALCULATED FOR EVENTS

SUCH AS MARRIAGE, OR AUTHOIRTY SO 10TH HOUSE, SAY IF SOMEONE IS IN A

JOB FOR LONG TIME, BUT SOME HOW HE OR SHE KEEPS GETTING PASSED ON FOR

PROMOTION THEN THAT MIGHT BE INDICATED.

FOR JOB, ONCE A PERSON IS READY, THEN WE CAN FIND THE PROBABLE DATES

AND FAVOURABLE TRANSITS, AND OFCOUSE THE WILLINGNESS OF THE NATIVE TO

TAKE UP A JOB.

I THINK U HAD GIVEN A CHART IN THE PAST WITH MANY PLANET IN 10TH HOUSE

, POWER IN 6TH HOUSE WAS GOOD ETC, SO LIKE THAT U MUST STUDY THE

NATIVE AS WELL.

 

IF NATIVE IS WILLING, THE TIME IS READY FOR EXAMPLE SAY ONE PERSON HAS

FINISHED HIS EDUCATION AND IS NOW READY AND EAGER TO TAKE UP A JOB,

THEN SEE THE ANTRA RUNNING, SD ETC AND THEN TIME JOB.

 

>

> Also I am assuming that you do not look for delay in

> dashamsha ? Meaning shani in 8th in dashamsha does not

> mean it aspects A,B,C houses for 10th house. You only

> look at the lords in navansha. Do you also look for

> them in dashamsha ?

 

ASH: TECHNIQUE FOR FINDING DELAY IS AS PER LESSONS. NO WHERE ITS

GIVEN TO SEE DASHANSA FOR DELAY. RASI IS MOST IMPORTANT AND NAVAMSA.

THEN NEXT IMPORTANT CHARTS WE SEE ARE DRESHKON AND TRISHANSA SO WE

SEE INTELLEGENCE ETC FROM SUCH APART FROM OTHER THINGS AS WELL BUT

THAT LESSON IS NOT GIVEN ON D CHARTS IN DETAIL.

 

ABOUT ASPECTS IN D CHARTS, I HAVE TOLD THAT ITS NOT TAKEN. HERE ONLY

NAVAMSA AND THAT TOO SPECIFICALLY FOR SA. SO WE CHECK

 

1) ASPECT OF SA ON LOA LOB AND LOC OF RASI IN NAVAMSA

2) ASPECT OF SA ON HOUSE A B C OF NAVAMSA ONLY

3) SIMILARLY FOR JU. IF JU ASPECTS LOA AND LOB OR RASI IN NAVAMSA THEN

ALSO IT CAN CAUSE DELAY.

4) IF JU ASPECTS SA IN NAVAMSA ALSO IT CAN MODERATE DELAY OF SA

SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

 

SO LIKE THAT.

 

 

>

> What if there is delay ue to aspects on lords in

> navansha for 10th house matters but not in dashamsha

> for 10th house matters. Which one will you give

> preference to for 10th house matters.

>

 

ASH : DASHANSHA AND POWER OF PLANETS IN DASHANSA I.E. A+B+C I.E. BASIC

STRENGTH IS USED ONLY AND SAME FOR ALL D CHARTS. PLANETS IN 6 8 OR

12TH HOUSE IS NOT GOOD IN D CHARTS ONLY.

 

SO SAY FOR EXMAPLE IF RASI WS IS SHOWING GOOD POWER FOR JUPITER FOR

10TH HOUSE BUT JU IS IN 8TH HOUSE IN DASHANSA THEN PERSON WILL GET

AUTHORITY BUT IT MIGHT BE AT THE COST OF SOMETHING OR II MIGHT REDUCE

THE RESULT.

 

I THINK KRUSHNAJI HAS GIVEN SOME POST ON THIS IN THE ARCHIVES.

 

THERE IS NO QUESTION OF PREFERENCE. EACH D CHART SHEDS LIGHT ON A

PARTICULAR AREA, D7 FOR CHILDREN, D10 FOR BIG GAINS.

 

BUT RASI WS IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR TIMING OF EVENTS. OTHER IMPORTANT D

CHARTS WE USE ARE NAVAMSA THATS DEALT WITH IN THIS MAIL AND NEXT ARE

DRESHKON AND TRISHANSA WHICH WE ARE USING.

 

 

 

> Thanks

>

> Satish

> --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Satish,

> >

> > Sa in 8th in navamsa, means the jatak will not get

> > success

> > immediately. Most importantly we must see the WS.

> >

> > Next, we also say planets in 6th, 8th or 12th house

> > in D charts means

> > its not good.

> >

> > So Sa in 8th house in D-10 means some problems as

> > per above.

> >

> > Now, SAV is casted in D-Charts and when we do that

> > we distribute the

> > power of planets i.e. lagna and 7 planets in 12

> > houses only then we

> > can get SAV.

> >

> > In D chart say D10 when finding strength of 10th

> > house we will add

> > A+B+C points so the SAV power of the planet lets

> > take Sa as u took

> > that in your example, so power that Sa has in 5th,

> > 10th and 2nd house

> > so in short the basic strength.

> >

> > Most important is Rasi WS. Navamsa we give equal

> > weightage as Rasi

> > and that I have explained how we see the aspects in

> > Navamsa in my

> > previous mail, and all other D-Charts are support

> > only.

> >

> > When casting the WS for D charts, only A+B+C power

> > is taken, and for

> > that we must first cast the SAV in all the D charts.

> > So if Navamsa is

> > taken as a D chart then only A+B+C.

> >

> > For finding delay navamsa is important as we will

> > check if for example

> > if Sa is aspecting Rasi's lord ABC in navamsa or if

> > Sa is aspecting

> > house ABC in navamsa, similarly for Ju, if ju

> > aspects loa and lob then

> > it means delay.

> >

> > Hope its clear,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , SPK

> > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > > Thanks. Somehow I had guru aspecting mangal in

> > navasha

> > > with JH Hora. Anyway the Sa delay you mentioned

> > about.

> > > Like in 8th will delay matters of 3rd from it, so

> > in

> > > 8th in navansha will delay 10th house matters. Is

> > this

> > > taken only in rashi and navansha ? Or you use it

> > in

> > > other divisions as well ? What about shani in 8th

> > from

> > > dashamsha lagna ?

> > >

> > > Satish

> > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Satish,

> > > >

> > > > Ju is in 10th house in Rasi so it aspects House

> > A

> > > > but its not

> > > > aspecting Mars or 7th house in Rasi or navamsa

> > (i.e

> > > > aspecting 7th lord

> > > > mars in navamsa).

> > > > Which is a way its good, as if Ju being 6th lord

> > > > aspects Mars i.e LoA

> > > > and LoB might cause separation from spouse in

> > its

> > > > antra as Ju is 6th

> > > > lord and its in unccha sthan and with 6 bindus.

> > > >

> > > > So here Ju will not cause delay.

> > > >

> > > > About aspects in Navamsa, its ok you to have

> > > > reservations, as long as

> > > > u know from KAS view point, so u can in time

> > test

> > > > those and then come

> > > > to a conclusion yourself.

> > > >

> > > > So let your own experience guide you.

> > > >

> > > > Aspects are only in navamsa, and that too Sa in

> > 5th

> > > > house in special

> > > > case where it aspects house ABC. So here we do

> > not

> > > > consider house

> > > > lord of navamsa. So there is a big difference.

> > > >

> > > > Even, SAV is casted for all D charts and that is

> > > > based on relative

> > > > positioning of planets which is based on

> > > > distribution of planets to a

> > > > house from where they are in all the respective

> > d

> > > > chart.

> > > >

> > > > Here in KAS u have framework, and rest is its

> > > > application on charts

> > > > and to see for yourself, and that also goes for

> > > > ayanamsa.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > SPK

> > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > I ahve not casted the chart with WS , but with

> > > > JHHora

> > > > > I see that Guru aspects mangal LOA and B is

> > > > navansha.

> > > > > With Krushna ayanasha it may not be so. Also I

> > am

> > > > not

> > > > > yet convinced about aspects in amshas. I know

> > KAS

> > > > uses

> > > > > them so I wanted to point out out that there

> > may

> > > > be

> > > > > guru delay as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Satish

> > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Anup,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No, dont take what I say as gospel truth.

> > We

> > > > are

> > > > > > just astrologers and

> > > > > > not God.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We are just seeing with our little knowledge

> > > > which

> > > > > > will grow with time

> > > > > > no doubt, and letting the blessings of

> > Krushanji

> > > > > > guide us.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So don't doubt your prediction at all.

> > > > Tomorrow,

> > > > > > just as u ask me

> > > > > > difficult questions, some of your students

> > will

> > > > ask

> > > > > > u such questions,

> > > > > > that time remember me lol........

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From learning process, if this chart came to

> > u

> > > > > > blindly, you would see

> > > > > > that there is delay in Sa and points in 7th

> > > > house

> > > > > > are lesser so

> > > > > > definitely delay will be there and this you

> > can

> > > > say

> > > > > > with confidence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just to judge that much is not easy at all,

> > let

> > > > > > along timing of event.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So what u have achieved itself is a big

> > thing,

> > > > just

> > > > > > think about it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > ,

> > > > >

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Dear Ash,

 

Thanks for your answers. I do have a few questions.

However, I will be out for a week or so. Will ask them

when I get back.

 

Regards.

 

Satish

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

> Dear Satish,

> My reply in CAPS below yours.

>

> , SPK

> <aquaris_rising wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > How does one calculate delay for something like a

> job

> > ? Do you take the delay for the first job ? So

> shani

> > in 8th in the rashi chart should delay 10th house

> > matters. SO is the delay for 27.5 years say for

> first

> > job of authority ? As job is a continuous process

> and

> > not a one time event.

>

> ASH: NO, NOT LIKE THAT. WHEN ONE FINISHES STUDIES

> AND IF ONE IS

> READY TO DO A JOB THEN THERE IS NO MATTER FOR DELAY.

> U CAN CHECK THE

> ANTRA RUNNING, TRANSITS OF SA AND JU, PDFS ETC AND

> FIND THE PROBABLE

> TIME.

>

> WE CHECK DELAY IN PLACE WHERE DELAY IS TO BE

> CALCULATED FOR EVENTS

> SUCH AS MARRIAGE, OR AUTHOIRTY SO 10TH HOUSE, SAY IF

> SOMEONE IS IN A

> JOB FOR LONG TIME, BUT SOME HOW HE OR SHE KEEPS

> GETTING PASSED ON FOR

> PROMOTION THEN THAT MIGHT BE INDICATED.

> FOR JOB, ONCE A PERSON IS READY, THEN WE CAN FIND

> THE PROBABLE DATES

> AND FAVOURABLE TRANSITS, AND OFCOUSE THE WILLINGNESS

> OF THE NATIVE TO

> TAKE UP A JOB.

> I THINK U HAD GIVEN A CHART IN THE PAST WITH MANY

> PLANET IN 10TH HOUSE

> , POWER IN 6TH HOUSE WAS GOOD ETC, SO LIKE THAT U

> MUST STUDY THE

> NATIVE AS WELL.

>

> IF NATIVE IS WILLING, THE TIME IS READY FOR EXAMPLE

> SAY ONE PERSON HAS

> FINISHED HIS EDUCATION AND IS NOW READY AND EAGER TO

> TAKE UP A JOB,

> THEN SEE THE ANTRA RUNNING, SD ETC AND THEN TIME

> JOB.

>

> >

> > Also I am assuming that you do not look for delay

> in

> > dashamsha ? Meaning shani in 8th in dashamsha does

> not

> > mean it aspects A,B,C houses for 10th house. You

> only

> > look at the lords in navansha. Do you also look

> for

> > them in dashamsha ?

>

> ASH: TECHNIQUE FOR FINDING DELAY IS AS PER LESSONS.

> NO WHERE ITS

> GIVEN TO SEE DASHANSA FOR DELAY. RASI IS MOST

> IMPORTANT AND NAVAMSA.

> THEN NEXT IMPORTANT CHARTS WE SEE ARE DRESHKON AND

> TRISHANSA SO WE

> SEE INTELLEGENCE ETC FROM SUCH APART FROM OTHER

> THINGS AS WELL BUT

> THAT LESSON IS NOT GIVEN ON D CHARTS IN DETAIL.

>

> ABOUT ASPECTS IN D CHARTS, I HAVE TOLD THAT ITS NOT

> TAKEN. HERE ONLY

> NAVAMSA AND THAT TOO SPECIFICALLY FOR SA. SO WE

> CHECK

>

> 1) ASPECT OF SA ON LOA LOB AND LOC OF RASI IN

> NAVAMSA

> 2) ASPECT OF SA ON HOUSE A B C OF NAVAMSA ONLY

> 3) SIMILARLY FOR JU. IF JU ASPECTS LOA AND LOB OR

> RASI IN NAVAMSA THEN

> ALSO IT CAN CAUSE DELAY.

> 4) IF JU ASPECTS SA IN NAVAMSA ALSO IT CAN MODERATE

> DELAY OF SA

> SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

>

> SO LIKE THAT.

>

>

> >

> > What if there is delay ue to aspects on lords in

> > navansha for 10th house matters but not in

> dashamsha

> > for 10th house matters. Which one will you give

> > preference to for 10th house matters.

> >

>

> ASH : DASHANSHA AND POWER OF PLANETS IN DASHANSA

> I.E. A+B+C I.E. BASIC

> STRENGTH IS USED ONLY AND SAME FOR ALL D CHARTS.

> PLANETS IN 6 8 OR

> 12TH HOUSE IS NOT GOOD IN D CHARTS ONLY.

>

> SO SAY FOR EXMAPLE IF RASI WS IS SHOWING GOOD POWER

> FOR JUPITER FOR

> 10TH HOUSE BUT JU IS IN 8TH HOUSE IN DASHANSA THEN

> PERSON WILL GET

> AUTHORITY BUT IT MIGHT BE AT THE COST OF SOMETHING

> OR II MIGHT REDUCE

> THE RESULT.

>

> I THINK KRUSHNAJI HAS GIVEN SOME POST ON THIS IN THE

> ARCHIVES.

>

> THERE IS NO QUESTION OF PREFERENCE. EACH D CHART

> SHEDS LIGHT ON A

> PARTICULAR AREA, D7 FOR CHILDREN, D10 FOR BIG GAINS.

>

> BUT RASI WS IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR TIMING OF EVENTS.

> OTHER IMPORTANT D

> CHARTS WE USE ARE NAVAMSA THATS DEALT WITH IN THIS

> MAIL AND NEXT ARE

> DRESHKON AND TRISHANSA WHICH WE ARE USING.

>

>

>

> > Thanks

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Satish,

> > >

> > > Sa in 8th in navamsa, means the jatak will not

> get

> > > success

> > > immediately. Most importantly we must see the

> WS.

> > >

> > > Next, we also say planets in 6th, 8th or 12th

> house

> > > in D charts means

> > > its not good.

> > >

> > > So Sa in 8th house in D-10 means some problems

> as

> > > per above.

> > >

> > > Now, SAV is casted in D-Charts and when we do

> that

> > > we distribute the

> > > power of planets i.e. lagna and 7 planets in 12

> > > houses only then we

> > > can get SAV.

> > >

> > > In D chart say D10 when finding strength of 10th

> > > house we will add

> > > A+B+C points so the SAV power of the planet lets

> > > take Sa as u took

> > > that in your example, so power that Sa has in

> 5th,

> > > 10th and 2nd house

> > > so in short the basic strength.

> > >

> > > Most important is Rasi WS. Navamsa we give

> equal

> > > weightage as Rasi

> > > and that I have explained how we see the aspects

> in

> > > Navamsa in my

> > > previous mail, and all other D-Charts are

> support

> > > only.

> > >

> > > When casting the WS for D charts, only A+B+C

> power

> > > is taken, and for

> > > that we must first cast the SAV in all the D

> charts.

> > > So if Navamsa is

> > > taken as a D chart then only A+B+C.

> > >

> > > For finding delay navamsa is important as we

> will

> > > check if for example

> > > if Sa is aspecting Rasi's lord ABC in navamsa or

> if

> > > Sa is aspecting

> > > house ABC in navamsa, similarly for Ju, if ju

> > > aspects loa and lob then

> > > it means delay.

> > >

> > > Hope its clear,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

> SPK

>

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Dear Ash,

 

Just to clarify whether I understand this correctly.

You said

---ABOUT ASPECTS IN D CHARTS, I HAVE TOLD THAT ITS NOT

TAKEN. HERE ONLY

NAVAMSA AND THAT TOO SPECIFICALLY FOR SA. SO WE CHECK

 

1) ASPECT OF SA ON LOA LOB AND LOC OF RASI IN NAVAMSA

2) ASPECT OF SA ON HOUSE A B C OF NAVAMSA ONLY

3) SIMILARLY FOR JU. IF JU ASPECTS LOA AND LOB OR RASI

IN NAVAMSA THEN

ALSO IT CAN CAUSE DELAY.

4) IF JU ASPECTS SA IN NAVAMSA ALSO IT CAN MODERATE

DELAY OF SA

SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

---------------------------

 

Now if SA is in 5th house in navamsha it will aspect

house A,B,C in navansha...OK

 

If SA aspects LOA and LOB in rashi and is situated in

9th house in navansha, so it will aspect house C in

navansha. Will this classify as full delay?

 

If SA is lord od one of the house A,B,or C in rashi it

qulaifies as one of the conditions. So SA aspecting A,

B and is LOC will that be full delay ? ( I think we

have covered this but I want to put this for

completeness sake)

 

Thanks for your patience

 

Satish

 

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

> Dear Satish,

> My reply in CAPS below yours.

>

> , SPK

> <aquaris_rising wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > How does one calculate delay for something like a

> job

> > ? Do you take the delay for the first job ? So

> shani

> > in 8th in the rashi chart should delay 10th house

> > matters. SO is the delay for 27.5 years say for

> first

> > job of authority ? As job is a continuous process

> and

> > not a one time event.

>

> ASH: NO, NOT LIKE THAT. WHEN ONE FINISHES STUDIES

> AND IF ONE IS

> READY TO DO A JOB THEN THERE IS NO MATTER FOR DELAY.

> U CAN CHECK THE

> ANTRA RUNNING, TRANSITS OF SA AND JU, PDFS ETC AND

> FIND THE PROBABLE

> TIME.

>

> WE CHECK DELAY IN PLACE WHERE DELAY IS TO BE

> CALCULATED FOR EVENTS

> SUCH AS MARRIAGE, OR AUTHOIRTY SO 10TH HOUSE, SAY IF

> SOMEONE IS IN A

> JOB FOR LONG TIME, BUT SOME HOW HE OR SHE KEEPS

> GETTING PASSED ON FOR

> PROMOTION THEN THAT MIGHT BE INDICATED.

> FOR JOB, ONCE A PERSON IS READY, THEN WE CAN FIND

> THE PROBABLE DATES

> AND FAVOURABLE TRANSITS, AND OFCOUSE THE WILLINGNESS

> OF THE NATIVE TO

> TAKE UP A JOB.

> I THINK U HAD GIVEN A CHART IN THE PAST WITH MANY

> PLANET IN 10TH HOUSE

> , POWER IN 6TH HOUSE WAS GOOD ETC, SO LIKE THAT U

> MUST STUDY THE

> NATIVE AS WELL.

>

> IF NATIVE IS WILLING, THE TIME IS READY FOR EXAMPLE

> SAY ONE PERSON HAS

> FINISHED HIS EDUCATION AND IS NOW READY AND EAGER TO

> TAKE UP A JOB,

> THEN SEE THE ANTRA RUNNING, SD ETC AND THEN TIME

> JOB.

>

> >

> > Also I am assuming that you do not look for delay

> in

> > dashamsha ? Meaning shani in 8th in dashamsha does

> not

> > mean it aspects A,B,C houses for 10th house. You

> only

> > look at the lords in navansha. Do you also look

> for

> > them in dashamsha ?

>

> ASH: TECHNIQUE FOR FINDING DELAY IS AS PER LESSONS.

> NO WHERE ITS

> GIVEN TO SEE DASHANSA FOR DELAY. RASI IS MOST

> IMPORTANT AND NAVAMSA.

> THEN NEXT IMPORTANT CHARTS WE SEE ARE DRESHKON AND

> TRISHANSA SO WE

> SEE INTELLEGENCE ETC FROM SUCH APART FROM OTHER

> THINGS AS WELL BUT

> THAT LESSON IS NOT GIVEN ON D CHARTS IN DETAIL.

>

> ABOUT ASPECTS IN D CHARTS, I HAVE TOLD THAT ITS NOT

> TAKEN. HERE ONLY

> NAVAMSA AND THAT TOO SPECIFICALLY FOR SA. SO WE

> CHECK

>

> 1) ASPECT OF SA ON LOA LOB AND LOC OF RASI IN

> NAVAMSA

> 2) ASPECT OF SA ON HOUSE A B C OF NAVAMSA ONLY

> 3) SIMILARLY FOR JU. IF JU ASPECTS LOA AND LOB OR

> RASI IN NAVAMSA THEN

> ALSO IT CAN CAUSE DELAY.

> 4) IF JU ASPECTS SA IN NAVAMSA ALSO IT CAN MODERATE

> DELAY OF SA

> SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

>

> SO LIKE THAT.

>

>

> >

> > What if there is delay ue to aspects on lords in

> > navansha for 10th house matters but not in

> dashamsha

> > for 10th house matters. Which one will you give

> > preference to for 10th house matters.

> >

>

> ASH : DASHANSHA AND POWER OF PLANETS IN DASHANSA

> I.E. A+B+C I.E. BASIC

> STRENGTH IS USED ONLY AND SAME FOR ALL D CHARTS.

> PLANETS IN 6 8 OR

> 12TH HOUSE IS NOT GOOD IN D CHARTS ONLY.

>

> SO SAY FOR EXMAPLE IF RASI WS IS SHOWING GOOD POWER

> FOR JUPITER FOR

> 10TH HOUSE BUT JU IS IN 8TH HOUSE IN DASHANSA THEN

> PERSON WILL GET

> AUTHORITY BUT IT MIGHT BE AT THE COST OF SOMETHING

> OR II MIGHT REDUCE

> THE RESULT.

>

> I THINK KRUSHNAJI HAS GIVEN SOME POST ON THIS IN THE

> ARCHIVES.

>

> THERE IS NO QUESTION OF PREFERENCE. EACH D CHART

> SHEDS LIGHT ON A

> PARTICULAR AREA, D7 FOR CHILDREN, D10 FOR BIG GAINS.

>

> BUT RASI WS IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR TIMING OF EVENTS.

> OTHER IMPORTANT D

> CHARTS WE USE ARE NAVAMSA THATS DEALT WITH IN THIS

> MAIL AND NEXT ARE

> DRESHKON AND TRISHANSA WHICH WE ARE USING.

>

>

>

> > Thanks

 

 

 

 

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Dear Satish,

My replies below yours with prefix of Ash.

 

 

, SPK

<aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> Just to clarify whether I understand this correctly.

> You said

> ---ABOUT ASPECTS IN D CHARTS, I HAVE TOLD THAT ITS NOT

> TAKEN. HERE ONLY

> NAVAMSA AND THAT TOO SPECIFICALLY FOR SA. SO WE CHECK

>

> 1) ASPECT OF SA ON LOA LOB AND LOC OF RASI IN NAVAMSA

> 2) ASPECT OF SA ON HOUSE A B C OF NAVAMSA ONLY

> 3) SIMILARLY FOR JU. IF JU ASPECTS LOA AND LOB OR RASI

> IN NAVAMSA THEN

> ALSO IT CAN CAUSE DELAY.

> 4) IF JU ASPECTS SA IN NAVAMSA ALSO IT CAN MODERATE

> DELAY OF SA

> SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

> ---------------------------

>

> Now if SA is in 5th house in navamsha it will aspect

> house A,B,C in navansha...OK

>

> If SA aspects LOA and LOB in rashi and is situated in

> 9th house in navansha, so it will aspect house C in

> navansha. Will this classify as full delay?

 

ASH: IF SA ASPECTS LOA AND LOB IN RASI AND HOUSE C IN NAVAMSA THEN NO

DELAY IN GENERAL CASE. IN A VERY SPECIFIC CASE, IT MIGHT GIVE DELAY.

 

SAY LAGNA IS CANCER RISING FROM 0 TO 3DEG20 AND IN THAT CASE, SA IS IN

2ND HOUSE IN NAVAMSA, THEN IT WILL CAUSE DELAY.

 

>

> If SA is lord od one of the house A,B,or C in rashi it

> qulaifies as one of the conditions. So SA aspecting A,

> B and is LOC will that be full delay ? ( I think we

> have covered this but I want to put this for

> completeness sake)

 

ASH : LETS TAKE A CASE, LEO LAGNA AND SA IS IN 2ND HOUSE. IN THAT

CASE ITS FULL DELAY.

 

>

> Thanks for your patience

>

> Satish

>

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

> --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Satish,

> > My reply in CAPS below yours.

> >

> > , SPK

> > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > How does one calculate delay for something like a

> > job

> > > ? Do you take the delay for the first job ? So

> > shani

> > > in 8th in the rashi chart should delay 10th house

> > > matters. SO is the delay for 27.5 years say for

> > first

> > > job of authority ? As job is a continuous process

> > and

> > > not a one time event.

> >

> > ASH: NO, NOT LIKE THAT. WHEN ONE FINISHES STUDIES

> > AND IF ONE IS

> > READY TO DO A JOB THEN THERE IS NO MATTER FOR DELAY.

> > U CAN CHECK THE

> > ANTRA RUNNING, TRANSITS OF SA AND JU, PDFS ETC AND

> > FIND THE PROBABLE

> > TIME.

> >

> > WE CHECK DELAY IN PLACE WHERE DELAY IS TO BE

> > CALCULATED FOR EVENTS

> > SUCH AS MARRIAGE, OR AUTHOIRTY SO 10TH HOUSE, SAY IF

> > SOMEONE IS IN A

> > JOB FOR LONG TIME, BUT SOME HOW HE OR SHE KEEPS

> > GETTING PASSED ON FOR

> > PROMOTION THEN THAT MIGHT BE INDICATED.

> > FOR JOB, ONCE A PERSON IS READY, THEN WE CAN FIND

> > THE PROBABLE DATES

> > AND FAVOURABLE TRANSITS, AND OFCOUSE THE WILLINGNESS

> > OF THE NATIVE TO

> > TAKE UP A JOB.

> > I THINK U HAD GIVEN A CHART IN THE PAST WITH MANY

> > PLANET IN 10TH HOUSE

> > , POWER IN 6TH HOUSE WAS GOOD ETC, SO LIKE THAT U

> > MUST STUDY THE

> > NATIVE AS WELL.

> >

> > IF NATIVE IS WILLING, THE TIME IS READY FOR EXAMPLE

> > SAY ONE PERSON HAS

> > FINISHED HIS EDUCATION AND IS NOW READY AND EAGER TO

> > TAKE UP A JOB,

> > THEN SEE THE ANTRA RUNNING, SD ETC AND THEN TIME

> > JOB.

> >

> > >

> > > Also I am assuming that you do not look for delay

> > in

> > > dashamsha ? Meaning shani in 8th in dashamsha does

> > not

> > > mean it aspects A,B,C houses for 10th house. You

> > only

> > > look at the lords in navansha. Do you also look

> > for

> > > them in dashamsha ?

> >

> > ASH: TECHNIQUE FOR FINDING DELAY IS AS PER LESSONS.

> > NO WHERE ITS

> > GIVEN TO SEE DASHANSA FOR DELAY. RASI IS MOST

> > IMPORTANT AND NAVAMSA.

> > THEN NEXT IMPORTANT CHARTS WE SEE ARE DRESHKON AND

> > TRISHANSA SO WE

> > SEE INTELLEGENCE ETC FROM SUCH APART FROM OTHER

> > THINGS AS WELL BUT

> > THAT LESSON IS NOT GIVEN ON D CHARTS IN DETAIL.

> >

> > ABOUT ASPECTS IN D CHARTS, I HAVE TOLD THAT ITS NOT

> > TAKEN. HERE ONLY

> > NAVAMSA AND THAT TOO SPECIFICALLY FOR SA. SO WE

> > CHECK

> >

> > 1) ASPECT OF SA ON LOA LOB AND LOC OF RASI IN

> > NAVAMSA

> > 2) ASPECT OF SA ON HOUSE A B C OF NAVAMSA ONLY

> > 3) SIMILARLY FOR JU. IF JU ASPECTS LOA AND LOB OR

> > RASI IN NAVAMSA THEN

> > ALSO IT CAN CAUSE DELAY.

> > 4) IF JU ASPECTS SA IN NAVAMSA ALSO IT CAN MODERATE

> > DELAY OF SA

> > SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

> >

> > SO LIKE THAT.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > What if there is delay ue to aspects on lords in

> > > navansha for 10th house matters but not in

> > dashamsha

> > > for 10th house matters. Which one will you give

> > > preference to for 10th house matters.

> > >

> >

> > ASH : DASHANSHA AND POWER OF PLANETS IN DASHANSA

> > I.E. A+B+C I.E. BASIC

> > STRENGTH IS USED ONLY AND SAME FOR ALL D CHARTS.

> > PLANETS IN 6 8 OR

> > 12TH HOUSE IS NOT GOOD IN D CHARTS ONLY.

> >

> > SO SAY FOR EXMAPLE IF RASI WS IS SHOWING GOOD POWER

> > FOR JUPITER FOR

> > 10TH HOUSE BUT JU IS IN 8TH HOUSE IN DASHANSA THEN

> > PERSON WILL GET

> > AUTHORITY BUT IT MIGHT BE AT THE COST OF SOMETHING

> > OR II MIGHT REDUCE

> > THE RESULT.

> >

> > I THINK KRUSHNAJI HAS GIVEN SOME POST ON THIS IN THE

> > ARCHIVES.

> >

> > THERE IS NO QUESTION OF PREFERENCE. EACH D CHART

> > SHEDS LIGHT ON A

> > PARTICULAR AREA, D7 FOR CHILDREN, D10 FOR BIG GAINS.

> >

> > BUT RASI WS IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR TIMING OF EVENTS.

> > OTHER IMPORTANT D

> > CHARTS WE USE ARE NAVAMSA THATS DEALT WITH IN THIS

> > MAIL AND NEXT ARE

> > DRESHKON AND TRISHANSA WHICH WE ARE USING.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

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