Fw: Astrology/Science?? - to RohiniRanjan ji

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--- On Wed, 2/11/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4 wrote:

 

serenity forever <serenity_forever4

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Astrology/Science??

vedic astrology

Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 10:27 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I totally agree. I believe in " Never blame astrology but the astrologer " . But at

the same time, astrology is such an ocean, that too a complex ocean, person who

really gets to the depths of it, I wonder, will he/she remain a normal human? I

feel after going to that depth, they reform like saints with no attachments to

any of the earthly desires. I rarely heard about such people, rather yogis, who

are not known to anyone, yet predict stuff to people randomly, with no

expectations.

 

As such, in my personal experience, I have had some questions and have been to 3

topnotch astrologers, all of them predicted almost the same, but surprisingly,

none of it is happening, rather the total reverse is happening or gonna happen

(as per the current trends). Yet I dont blame them or thier calculations,

whatever they said might have been true, but I believe there is something

fundamentally wrong in the calculations or the system being used somewhere,

maybe that's why even some of the world-famous astrologers also fail to predict

100% perfect.

 

 

--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 wrote:

 

Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Astrology/Science??

vedic astrology

Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 9:47 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear RR Ji

 

In my experience as an astrologer, I also keep doing research on each & every

individual who approach me. I try my best to analyse their speech, behaviour

 patterns & then see the respective bhavs & the planets which makes the

individual behave accordingly.

 

All planets in our charts marks our approach to the world the way we see it.

Astrological  science does not fails but it is the astrologer who fails in

reading & predicting ones horoscope. It is the astrologer who is responsible &

to be blamed & not astrology.

 

The placement 0f moon & its strenght in the chart rules our mind. This is where

the astrologer normally fails in analysis. Astrologer or any individual with a

afflicted moon will always be speculative & will always give a personal opinion

rather trying to give a picture on how it should be.

 

But u hv rightly mentioned astrology is a science & will always remain a

science.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

VAASTU CONSULTANT

CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

 

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Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

vedic astrology

Wednesday, 11 February, 2009 7:38:15 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Astrology/Science? ?

 

Dear Mr.. Nathani,

 

While I respect your passionate stand in this matter, by *summarily*

dismissing what Narlikar or the previous scientists (Sagan for

instance) or the next scientist states about astrology based on their

casual brush with a discipline that has kept some fairly cerebral

people raptly absorbed for many many years and perhaps lifetimes --

we would be simply falling in the same rank and style as him or

other 'rationalists' .

 

I think instead of presenting a slogan (e.g., Astrology is not

science and bunk!) with a counter-slogan ( " Astrology is a science and

has always been ... " ), both sides would have to forward illustrations

and arguments to justify their positions. And that takes a lot of

time and dedication so then becomes a personal choice for each

proponent and opponent!

 

In that vein, I would applaud the contribution of Seymore and of

Eysenck and Nias. I am certain all who believe that astrology is

science have read these short offerings even if these may not be

directly based in jyotish.

 

RR

 

vedic astrology, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405@ ...> wrote:

>

>  Dear Mr. RR Ji

>

> We should dismiss him summarily. The fact will always remain that

Jyotish Shashtra is science & not fiction or art. If Jyotish

Shahshtra has got such a huge milage & acceptablity since 3 yugas, it

is because it is science.

>

> Rishi Parasher took almost seven births in this universe

to understand & experience the practical acceptablity of Jyotish

Shahshtra, but we are the most unfortunate, some Jyotish authors have

not understood the message of Rishi Parasher & speculatively have

given their own personal opinions without trying to understand the

effect of it on the neophytes.

>  

> GOD BLESS YOU

> WITH WARM REGARDS

> HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI

> VEDIC ASTOLOGER

> VAASTU CONSULTANT

> CELL +919867214103

> (MUMBAI,INDIA)

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> vedic astrology

> Monday, 9 February, 2009 12:23:33 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Astrology/Science? ?

>

>

> Mr. Haresh (Harry) Nathani,

>

> Since you addressed your posting to <all> ...

>

> I think Dr.. Narlikar has had a pretty productive life,

scientifically

> and otherwise so let us not presume that he has anything personal

> against astrology!

>

> Perhaps, unless I am frightfully wrong, he does not even know or

care

> to know about this forum or the two or three other jyotish fora

that

> we all frequent.

>

> While your personal passion for astrology as expressed is

understood

> and reciprocated amicably -- there have been jyotishi-astrophyic

ists

> like Mr. Jha who have been questioning the MATH and astro-

coordinates

> that the great body of astrologers have been utilizing for decades

> and perhaps centuries!

>

> What is your opinion? Should we listen to what Mr. Vinay Jha has to

> say or do we dismiss him summarily?

>

> The 'YOU' is metaphorical, of course, since I know that 'Harry'

does

> not really control what the Goddess JR Rowlings writes, nor what

> MOGULS ultimately decide to do with their lives!

>

> vedic astrology, " Haresh \(Harry\)

Nathani "

> <haresh1405@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Devendra and all,

> >

> > It seems that the scientist must have had some unpleasent

> experience with astrolgers or his 9th house may be having those

> planets which makes the native see astrology as supertitious.

> >

> > We of course are influnced by the planets in the orbit. Our

> actions, our tastes, our mind, our relationships, our intelligence

> and many more are influenced by the planets. If that is not the

case

> then why would there be any kind of disparity between all

> individuals, why our thoughts are different, why do we think

> differently & not similarly like all.

> >

> > Astrology is merely not limited to predicting various events in

our

> lives, it is also a guide which shows us how our past, present

> &  future will look like and how best can we adapt ourselves to

those

> kind of situations, circumstances & events which have influenced us

> also the events which will be going to influence us in our

> respective lives.

> >

> > The fact that u have posted this query, I am certain u r not a

> astrloger.

> >

> >  

> > GOD BLESS YOU

> > WITH WARM REGARDS

> > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI

> > VEDIC ASTOLOGER

> > VAASTU CONSULTANT

> > CELL +919867214103

> > (MUMBAI,INDIA)

> >

> >

> > please look into the article by an eminent scientist.

> >

> > November 4, 2006

> > Press Trust Of India

> > Rourkela, February 09, 2009

> > First Published: 12:51 IST(9/2/2009)

> > Last Updated: 12:54 IST(9/2/2009)

> > Future lies in hands and not planets: Narlikar

> > " Our future lies in our hands and not on the position of

planets, "

> > said eminent scientist and internationally acclaimed astro-

> physicist

> > Prof J V Narlikar.

> > He said there was a wrong concept that planets influenced the

> > future. " The planets are powerless. Stand on your own feet, know

> your

> > problem and try to solve it yourself. "

> > The astronomer pointed out there were even differences among

> > astrologers with western astrology differing from Indian

astrology.

> > " Astrology is not science, but superstition, he said.

> > Astrologers knew that people came to them when they faced

problems

> > and kept them hanging so that they made repeated visits.

> > Narlikar was speaking at a seminar 'Astrology-a pseudo-sience'

here

> > last night organised by the Orissa Rationalists Association.

> > http://www.hindusta ntimes.com/ StoryPage/ Print.aspx?

Id=eab5b5ad-

> 2c22-

> > 416f-bf1a-92a56bfd1 904

> > © Copyright 2007 Hindustan Times

> >

> >

> >

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> > Davendra <davendrak@ ..>

> > vedic astrology

> > Monday, 9 February, 2009 7:24:10 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Astrology/Science? ?

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