Fake Sabbath Calendar in the name of Veda

April 14, 2009

- Written by Sunil Nair

[This is discussed in another group - A reply to attackers to astrology

like AKK, who spreads the lies as astrology is against Hindu religion

and imported from west -it is Greek Chaldean contribution and argues

that even the calendars which we uses should be changed to their some

vague lunar calendars]

This is what I gather about middle eastern, Greek or Arabic, Yehudian (

Jews ) calendars. They all have a common belief and philosophy (Semitic

philosophy) except old Greece. I believe that - Hindu kings were ruling

there in Greece till it was totally destroyed just 200 yr before

Alexander's birth. The period is called Minoans' era. One of Kaul's

favorite argument is that - It is Greeks or Chaldeans or Mesopotamians

or at least Jews who give India all Vedas and technology and even

Puranas. He does not spell it exactly as it is – but as per his

argument, as Puranas has astrological signs and hence they should be of

Greece origin! The Greece which went later under Roman Empire, just

after Alexandrian era, to became the seat of Jews and later of

Christians. The old Mesopotamia (current Iran) was habited by old Indus

people too. Indus people must have been an elitist class there, as there

are several Indus seals discovered in that area, showing the supremacy

of the Indus people. They where respected as elite royal class even in

Arabia (especially Bahrain and Oman). Indus seals discovered in Arabia

is a proof their supremacy and of settling there and leading a

influential life in those societies (Dilmun civilization)

All those western religions and people and civilizations they believe

god created everything and took rest on 7th day. It is known as Sabbath.

The word `Sabat' is Sapta in Sanskrit – meaning 7th (refer at least

Bible – I would suggests to those western favorites), indicating

that the word itself is of Vedic Sanskrit origin. In India all Indian

religions has same line of thought and same is true with all those

western imported Asian religions too. It is better right to use the

Semitic religion the word western religions.

Arabic calendars do not have the concept of months. I mean – there

was no specific month names assigned to months with some specific

meanings connected to seasons or constellations or what ever, but only

some religious belief attached names. I think it is the same with other

middle-eastern religions too. Actually, I don't see any proof to agree

that they have a valid calendar at all - but I am open to discussions.

Thus for Muslims sighting of moon and moon periods was the whole of

their calendar concept! All religious festivals were decided by sighting

of moon after Amavasya and it is not predetermined like in Hindu

Panchangas (almanacs/ephemeris). Another cute point to note which

emphasis the authentic nature of Indian knowledge is that, there is no

proof of panchangas in other societies which is used for religious

purpose, but only in India. This point to its uniqueness and originality

in the use of Panchanga (5 limbs of time viz. Vara, Karana, Tithi,

Nityayoga and Nakshatra), and also point to the fact that these 5 limbs

of time including weekdays (Vara) originated in India itself. Every body

know the age of Muslim religion - with all valid proof and strong

historical proof with valid support, now it is only Hijra era is 1430,

clarifying that the Muslim religion originated only around 6th century

AD. Even their calendars has nothing to do with any astronomical

specialty than some belief as this month is this way attached to some

religious way. And it doesn't keep with seasons and it just keeps

rotating in every year. Even after translating various astrological and

astronomical texts from India and there were good astrologers in Arabic

and Islamic periods, they are yet to master the calendar concept, its

seasonal and astronomical importance. But as per Kaul, such lunar

calendar is the most authentic one and not the Indian solar calendar and

we should change the Muslim way! Or better he argues that that was the

Vedic way! May be he is trying to indicate that Hindus adopted all

knowledge from Muslims!

Let us review the Muslim system and see how correct it is. Let us see

whether those Arabic Muslim calendar concepts are in any way connected

to seasons or not. No, we will fail to find any proper connection. For

example, the Ramadan month (their biggest fasting month) can be in

summer at one time and in winter at another time

Let us look at the week days they use as well. Their week day naming

system is, youm al ahd (first day ), youm al ithnain (2nd day ) till

youm al sabath (7th day ) etc, except on Friday which is named Juma or

youm al juma (juma means religious mass prayers day in Arabic). Also

remember that Arabic is one of the oldest language too. We are left

wondering - why they don't call the week days with some specific name?!

Some specific names connected with the planets or so but only call it as

first day to 7th day etc. Is it that the original names are forgotten?

Why they are using 7-day system in Vedas?!

This means that the Arabic people never had the 7-day week system with

names such as Sunday, Monday etc up to Saturday. This means that even

the European system of 7-day week is pirated from India and not from

Arabia or so. Later the Arabs simply use the new English version of days

in their modern calendar. This all points to the fact that, the Arabs

had no idea about planets and planetary days. One major question that

sprigs in mind is that - Why these slave Greeks to Romans (Ancient Greek

conquered by Romans) or slave Jews to Chaldeans (Arabia and Chaldia was

under Indus rule earlier, Arab Jews were slaves under Chaldean rule)

cannot influence Arabs or Europe? But as per Kaul, they were all eager

to export all those knowledge to India! Poor thing! They Semitic Jews

and Chaldeans don't have any knowledge to influence even Arabs or

Europe, how are they supposed to have influenced India?! Arabs became

the torch bearers of Jew/Muslim Semitic branch and Greek being

considered as the forefathers of the European/Christian renaissance and

science.

It is interesting to note that - the Arabians who were very close to

Chaldea and Chaldeans, and Jews or even to Mesopotamia (present Iraq)

didn't know anything much nor has a calendar. Otherwise - why there is

no proof? Even Jews and old bible says Saturday as Sabbath (7th day -

Sapta Dinam) day – a Sanskrit adopted word. Where is proof for their

authority in astrology or astronomy for their week day concept?! For us

no such confusion and no such lack of clarity – since we have our

base clear and know well the connection between week days and its

astronomical and astrological connotation and explanation.

No where in Quran /Bible /or Jewish holy texts has proof that they have

real calendars or even proper week days. It means they created all this

only in export zone (since they had none of this knowledge for their

native personal use) and exported all this to India as some tax benefits

are available or what?! Please see the stupidity involved in this

argument. If they didn't have any such knowledge available with them,

how they are supposed to export the same to India? If India had such

knowledge earlier itself, if even the words show the Indian connection,

is it not clear that they gained this knowledge from India and not vice

versa?

We know that during the making present western calendar the Europeans

invited lot astrologers from India and connected also through

correspondence (Indian literature available to Europeans). So the old

roman 10 month calendar which is again pirated Sanskrit version has

transformed into present 365 days yearly calendar. This happened after

3rd/4th century AD and they still has no clear calendar. Indians has

solid proof that we are using this kind of calendar, though not exact

but based on Solar (saura) days .Now some fools are coming to us through

various ways (in the name protecting god and dharma ) and saying that

we copied them ( taking advantage of present English based education in

India so to as to spread lies ) or some twisted versions .And main aim

is make Hindu psyche submissive more to western than pride in own

culture

See fun of New western calendar - September the 7th month become 9th

month ,October the 8th month become 10th month, November the 9th month

become 11th month and December the 10th month become 12th month (Sapta

is 7, Ashta means 8, Nav means 9, Dasa means 10 in Sanskrit). Can anyone

explain me this magic me and say how it happened?

It is my request to all those greek paksha/chaldean paksha vedic priests

who made some fake calendar and is trying to call it Vedic version and

says we took everything from west and other wise use his non existent

mathematically impossible lunar calendar (let me put it clearly – It

is my request to all those stupid Kaulians) that – please start to

learn and understand the depth of Indian knowledge and understanding.

Reading the front and back cover of books and saying that I have covered

things from cover to cover don't help. Please become Sishya to some good

guru and start learning – may be that could help. Please know that -

Hindus insular nature has protected their knowledge unless some one can

come here and settle, become a true student (sishya) no gurus were ready

to teach and those days there is no also with nature of

present Hindu warriors. If the Arabs got only partial knowledge from

India (for example only the 7-day week system and not the astronomical

connection correlation and logic behind) it was just because of the fact

that they never gained the knowledge from India in a systematic way.

Borrowed knowledge is almost always incomplete.

Please stop ignorantly claiming that you know every thing and have read

every thing from cover to cover. Please stop deriving use out of context

meaning too (This is the typical symptom of one who do not have a guru,

one who never learned things in a traditional way). Out of context use

of words can wreck havoc and will lead us nowhere.

For example dwija means twice born, but I find in one text which is

Ayurvedic the term used for teeth – i.e. sthoola dwija = Big teeth.

According to the text and context there is no reason to use varna or

class remark here. So in that Ayurvedic context the meaning of that word

`Dwija' will became teeth. Why? Because as human we get teeth 2 times in

one life – teeth is Dwija `twice born'! I find same wordings in

Horas (astrological texts) too, when used to explain personal traits of

people who born in particular sign. So if you are a true seeker of

knowledge, learn to use and try to understand words in their own

context, and not out of context.

Those who intentionally twists everything is having a heyday with

Sanskrit literature and Sastras may end up in hell in nether worlds and

lunatic asylum in this world. They create their own hell and dwell in it

– may be just because of the cravings for missionary money.

- 0 -

=========================

April 14, 2009

SUNIL NAIR IS THE SAME PERSON WHO HAS DISCREDIT MANY ASTROLOGERS LIKE SRI PVR

AND SRI SANJAY RATH, WHO ARE NOT ONLY SPREADING DIVINE SCIENCE BUT ALSO HINDU

DHARMA

HE HAS GIVEN SEVERE ABUSES TO THEM AND THREATENED THEM

HE ABUSES TO MANY PARAMPARAS

HE IS MUSIL TERRORIST WHO JUST WANT TO BEHEAD BECAUSE OF HIS MADNESS

HE HIMSELF IS THE BIGGEST DESTROYER OF HINDU DHARMA AND ASTROLOGY

WE SHOULD NOT HEAR ANY VOICE OF THIS COMEDIAN

HE HAS RECENTLY SAID THAT ALL ANCIENT CALCULATION ARE RUBBISH, IT IS INSULT OF

OUR ANCESTORS

HE HAS SAID THAT SANSKRIT UNIVERSOTOES ARE FAKE

HE IS THE TERRORIST

vedic astrology , " sreedhar.nambiar "

<sreedhar.nambiar wrote:

>

> Fake Sabbath Calendar in the name of Veda

>

> - Written by Sunil Nair

>

> [This is discussed in another group - A reply to attackers to astrology

> like AKK, who spreads the lies as astrology is against Hindu religion

> and imported from west -it is Greek Chaldean contribution and argues

> that even the calendars which we uses should be changed to their some

> vague lunar calendars]

>

> This is what I gather about middle eastern, Greek or Arabic, Yehudian (

> Jews ) calendars. They all have a common belief and philosophy (Semitic

> philosophy) except old Greece. I believe that - Hindu kings were ruling

> there in Greece till it was totally destroyed just 200 yr before

> Alexander's birth. The period is called Minoans' era. One of Kaul's

> favorite argument is that - It is Greeks or Chaldeans or Mesopotamians

> or at least Jews who give India all Vedas and technology and even

> Puranas. He does not spell it exactly as it is ? but as per his

> argument, as Puranas has astrological signs and hence they should be of

> Greece origin! The Greece which went later under Roman Empire, just

> after Alexandrian era, to became the seat of Jews and later of

> Christians. The old Mesopotamia (current Iran) was habited by old Indus

> people too. Indus people must have been an elitist class there, as there

> are several Indus seals discovered in that area, showing the supremacy

> of the Indus people. They where respected as elite royal class even in

> Arabia (especially Bahrain and Oman). Indus seals discovered in Arabia

> is a proof their supremacy and of settling there and leading a

> influential life in those societies (Dilmun civilization)

>

> All those western religions and people and civilizations they believe

> god created everything and took rest on 7th day. It is known as Sabbath.

> The word `Sabat' is Sapta in Sanskrit ? meaning 7th (refer at least

> Bible ? I would suggests to those western favorites), indicating

> that the word itself is of Vedic Sanskrit origin. In India all Indian

> religions has same line of thought and same is true with all those

> western imported Asian religions too. It is better right to use the

> Semitic religion the word western religions.

>

> Arabic calendars do not have the concept of months. I mean ? there

> was no specific month names assigned to months with some specific

> meanings connected to seasons or constellations or what ever, but only

> some religious belief attached names. I think it is the same with other

> middle-eastern religions too. Actually, I don't see any proof to agree

> that they have a valid calendar at all - but I am open to discussions.

> Thus for Muslims sighting of moon and moon periods was the whole of

> their calendar concept! All religious festivals were decided by sighting

> of moon after Amavasya and it is not predetermined like in Hindu

> Panchangas (almanacs/ephemeris). Another cute point to note which

> emphasis the authentic nature of Indian knowledge is that, there is no

> proof of panchangas in other societies which is used for religious

> purpose, but only in India. This point to its uniqueness and originality

> in the use of Panchanga (5 limbs of time viz. Vara, Karana, Tithi,

> Nityayoga and Nakshatra), and also point to the fact that these 5 limbs

> of time including weekdays (Vara) originated in India itself. Every body

> know the age of Muslim religion - with all valid proof and strong

> historical proof with valid support, now it is only Hijra era is 1430,

> clarifying that the Muslim religion originated only around 6th century

> AD. Even their calendars has nothing to do with any astronomical

> specialty than some belief as this month is this way attached to some

> religious way. And it doesn't keep with seasons and it just keeps

> rotating in every year. Even after translating various astrological and

> astronomical texts from India and there were good astrologers in Arabic

> and Islamic periods, they are yet to master the calendar concept, its

> seasonal and astronomical importance. But as per Kaul, such lunar

> calendar is the most authentic one and not the Indian solar calendar and

> we should change the Muslim way! Or better he argues that that was the

> Vedic way! May be he is trying to indicate that Hindus adopted all

> knowledge from Muslims!

>

> Let us review the Muslim system and see how correct it is. Let us see

> whether those Arabic Muslim calendar concepts are in any way connected

> to seasons or not. No, we will fail to find any proper connection. For

> example, the Ramadan month (their biggest fasting month) can be in

> summer at one time and in winter at another time

>

> Let us look at the week days they use as well. Their week day naming

> system is, youm al ahd (first day ), youm al ithnain (2nd day ) till

> youm al sabath (7th day ) etc, except on Friday which is named Juma or

> youm al juma (juma means religious mass prayers day in Arabic). Also

> remember that Arabic is one of the oldest language too. We are left

> wondering - why they don't call the week days with some specific name?!

> Some specific names connected with the planets or so but only call it as

> first day to 7th day etc. Is it that the original names are forgotten?

> Why they are using 7-day system in Vedas?!

>

> This means that the Arabic people never had the 7-day week system with

> names such as Sunday, Monday etc up to Saturday. This means that even

> the European system of 7-day week is pirated from India and not from

> Arabia or so. Later the Arabs simply use the new English version of days

> in their modern calendar. This all points to the fact that, the Arabs

> had no idea about planets and planetary days. One major question that

> sprigs in mind is that - Why these slave Greeks to Romans (Ancient Greek

> conquered by Romans) or slave Jews to Chaldeans (Arabia and Chaldia was

> under Indus rule earlier, Arab Jews were slaves under Chaldean rule)

> cannot influence Arabs or Europe? But as per Kaul, they were all eager

> to export all those knowledge to India! Poor thing! They Semitic Jews

> and Chaldeans don't have any knowledge to influence even Arabs or

> Europe, how are they supposed to have influenced India?! Arabs became

> the torch bearers of Jew/Muslim Semitic branch and Greek being

> considered as the forefathers of the European/Christian renaissance and

> science.

>

> It is interesting to note that - the Arabians who were very close to

> Chaldea and Chaldeans, and Jews or even to Mesopotamia (present Iraq)

> didn't know anything much nor has a calendar. Otherwise - why there is

> no proof? Even Jews and old bible says Saturday as Sabbath (7th day -

> Sapta Dinam) day ? a Sanskrit adopted word. Where is proof for their

> authority in astrology or astronomy for their week day concept?! For us

> no such confusion and no such lack of clarity ? since we have our

> base clear and know well the connection between week days and its

> astronomical and astrological connotation and explanation.

>

> No where in Quran /Bible /or Jewish holy texts has proof that they have

> real calendars or even proper week days. It means they created all this

> only in export zone (since they had none of this knowledge for their

> native personal use) and exported all this to India as some tax benefits

> are available or what?! Please see the stupidity involved in this

> argument. If they didn't have any such knowledge available with them,

> how they are supposed to export the same to India? If India had such

> knowledge earlier itself, if even the words show the Indian connection,

> is it not clear that they gained this knowledge from India and not vice

> versa?

>

> We know that during the making present western calendar the Europeans

> invited lot astrologers from India and connected also through

> correspondence (Indian literature available to Europeans). So the old

> roman 10 month calendar which is again pirated Sanskrit version has

> transformed into present 365 days yearly calendar. This happened after

> 3rd/4th century AD and they still has no clear calendar. Indians has

> solid proof that we are using this kind of calendar, though not exact

> but based on Solar (saura) days .Now some fools are coming to us through

> various ways (in the name protecting god and dharma ) and saying that

> we copied them ( taking advantage of present English based education in

> India so to as to spread lies ) or some twisted versions .And main aim

> is make Hindu psyche submissive more to western than pride in own

> culture

>

> See fun of New western calendar - September the 7th month become 9th

> month ,October the 8th month become 10th month, November the 9th month

> become 11th month and December the 10th month become 12th month (Sapta

> is 7, Ashta means 8, Nav means 9, Dasa means 10 in Sanskrit). Can anyone

> explain me this magic me and say how it happened?

>

> It is my request to all those greek paksha/chaldean paksha vedic priests

> who made some fake calendar and is trying to call it Vedic version and

> says we took everything from west and other wise use his non existent

> mathematically impossible lunar calendar (let me put it clearly ? It

> is my request to all those stupid Kaulians) that ? please start to

> learn and understand the depth of Indian knowledge and understanding.

> Reading the front and back cover of books and saying that I have covered

> things from cover to cover don't help. Please become Sishya to some good

> guru and start learning ? may be that could help. Please know that -

> Hindus insular nature has protected their knowledge unless some one can

> come here and settle, become a true student (sishya) no gurus were ready

> to teach and those days there is no also with nature of

> present Hindu warriors. If the Arabs got only partial knowledge from

> India (for example only the 7-day week system and not the astronomical

> connection correlation and logic behind) it was just because of the fact

> that they never gained the knowledge from India in a systematic way.

> Borrowed knowledge is almost always incomplete.

>

> Please stop ignorantly claiming that you know every thing and have read

> every thing from cover to cover. Please stop deriving use out of context

> meaning too (This is the typical symptom of one who do not have a guru,

> one who never learned things in a traditional way). Out of context use

> of words can wreck havoc and will lead us nowhere.

>

> For example dwija means twice born, but I find in one text which is

> Ayurvedic the term used for teeth ? i.e. sthoola dwija = Big teeth.

> According to the text and context there is no reason to use varna or

> class remark here. So in that Ayurvedic context the meaning of that word

> `Dwija' will became teeth. Why? Because as human we get teeth 2 times in

> one life ? teeth is Dwija `twice born'! I find same wordings in

> Horas (astrological texts) too, when used to explain personal traits of

> people who born in particular sign. So if you are a true seeker of

> knowledge, learn to use and try to understand words in their own

> context, and not out of context.

>

> Those who intentionally twists everything is having a heyday with

> Sanskrit literature and Sastras may end up in hell in nether worlds and

> lunatic asylum in this world. They create their own hell and dwell in it

> ? may be just because of the cravings for missionary money.

>

> - 0 -

> =========================

>

April 14, 2009

I wonder if this site is meant for venting peoples frustrations mostly!!

I am not talking of whoever posting. But the postings in the site collectively.

If someone searches the posts in this site for evaluation.............What

happens?.... For the moderators....because Astrology/Jyotish here goes for a bad

image.

RishiRahul

vedic astrology

bingo.bingo78

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:15:55 +0000

[vedic astrology] Re: Fake Sabbath Calendar in the name of Veda

SUNIL NAIR IS THE SAME PERSON WHO HAS DISCREDIT MANY ASTROLOGERS LIKE SRI

PVR AND SRI SANJAY RATH, WHO ARE NOT ONLY SPREADING DIVINE SCIENCE BUT ALSO

HINDU DHARMA