Fw: Krittikadi

April 20, 2009

// No this is NOT obvious and NOT true. Tapa and Tapasya are means HOT season

(Greeshma; and NOT winter as some argues) and is associated with Sun, and so is

the other month names. //

One Jokers Jokerai, he says that Tapa and Tapasaya means hot.

But please read following link:-

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=N3DE3GAyqcEC & pg=PA50 & lpg=PA50 & dq=madh#PPA50,M\

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But he is very much confident, Jokers use to be like this

Now he has to eat his own Vomit

hahahahahahaha

Basically Chadra Hari and Sreenadh are same person

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Sreenadh <sreesog

Re: Krittikadi

Monday, April 20, 2009, 2:32 PM

Dear Hari Malla ji,

// Sreenadhji, I have provided, the quotes of SB Dixit in my last postng.//

You haven't provided the Vedic quote yet, but only the reference number and SB

Dixit's words. I was asking for the original vedic quote in Sanksrit - hope it

is clear to you now.

// This is quite obvious. Madhu madhav are lunar months.//

No this is NOT obvious and NOT true. Tapa and Tapasya are means HOT season

(Greeshma; and NOT winter as some argues) and is associated with Sun, and so is

the other month names. I request you to look back into your understanding about

the Vedic Month names such as Tapa, Tapasya. The vedic sages were better

knowledgeable than the fools like AKK.

//The names of the nakshyatras months of 27 days are not commonly known to us

even if they existed.The nakshyatra months have no relation with the seasons.

they are connected to the nakshyatras only, i.e. are sidereal.//

Who are you to decalre so?! Kaul argues that foolishly argues that Nakshatra

means constallations and also that Nakshatra divisions move with the seasons!

:=) But you argue that Nakshatras are siderial and fixed and is not related to

Seasons. Ha..Ha.. I wonder whom you are with. OK. Let us agree that

Nakshatras are connected to fixed zodiac, and that they are not related to

Seasons. Then how can Lunar months be connected with seasons at all?!! Please

know that Seasons are Solar and is defenitly connected with Sun and NOT with

Moon or Nakshatras. I believe that is a basic knowledge one should have.

Any way all the best in your exiperients. I am not feeling like continuing

this discussion. I will try to provide some write-up on such subjects later as

time permits.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

ancient_indian_ astrology, Hari Malla <harimalla .>

wrote:

>

> //let me remind my friends that there is mention of the vernal equinox where

we have the head of the (Purusha?) in the vedas.//

>

> Sreenadhji, I have provided, the quotes of SB Dixit in my last postng.

>

> //With the litle reading I have done, I have come to know that in the ancient

time the months were mainly lunar months.//

> Where are the quotes? And why you are being so sure on this without evidence?

Do you want to argue that " Tapa, Tapasya, Madhu, Madhava etc " are Lunar months

and not solar?! Do you want to argue that Chaitra, Vaisakaha etc months are

Lunar in nature and there nevar existed solar and lunar months with the same

name (Lunar Chaitra and Solar Chaitra!) as AKK argues? Do you want to argue that

Nakshatra (Lunar) moths with 27 days each existed even though they didn't had a

name for those Nakshatra masas (Siderial months)?

> This is quite obvious. Madhu madhav are lunar months.The reason is that the

word maasa is used synonimously in the vedas for both month and the moon.

Proving the lackof solar months. Lunar chaitra only was there previously and

solar chaitra came into being only after the advent of rashis mesh Vrish etc.,

i.e. after the sidhant jyotish period started. The names of the nakshyatras

months of 27 days are not commonly known to us even if they existed.The

nakshyatra months have no relation with the seasons... they are connected to the

nakshyatras only, i.e. are sidereal.The stars do not affect us directly. If they

affected us then we would have to consider total of 88 constellations intead of

only 12 rashis out of them.

>

> //In Atharva samhita ,we read of 'Ayanam maghaa'.From this, it is clear that

firstly there was Uttrayan at Magh purnima//

> What a confusion! Please not that you are mixing Lunar Months (with the words

Makha Purnima), Nakshtra masa (Ayanams Magha) and Solar moths (Uttarayana) . Why

you want to club Nakshatra Chakra with Lunar months? Ayana is Solar or Lunar in

nature?

> Sreendhji, Uttaryan can be both solar like makar sankranti and lunar like

Poush purnima, when we celebrate maagha snana even now. Maagha snana used to be

celebrated during the vedanga jyotish period on magha sukla pratipada.During the

sidhanta jyotish period it was shifted to Poush purnima. This has been dealt

by SB dixit too.

>

> //> The change in equinox or solstice seems togo by the validity of the lunar

tithi.this could be the reason why we do not have Bhariniadi series and a jump

from Kritikadi to Aswiniadi.//

> What do you mean by those words? It doesn't make any sense to me as of now -

can you please elaborate and explain what you wanted to say?

> Sreenadhji,because our festivals are basically lunar, and lunar tithi can

fluctuate for one month due to adhimas, It can remain uttaryan for a very long

time, upto even 2000 years.then only we may switch over the uttarayan or

vishuvat one whole or one whole pakshya. That could be the reason we jumped from

Kritikadi to Aswinadi, without having Bhariniadi series, as you have pointed

out..

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

> Where? Please provide the quote - without which such 'opinions' are not

valid.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Hari Malla

>

> ----- Forwarded Message ----

> Sreenadh sreesog

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:43:51 PM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Krittikadi

>

> Dear Hari Malla ji,

> //let me remind my friends that there is mention of the vernal equinox where

we have the head of the (Purusha?) in the vedas.//

> Where? Please provide the quote - without which such 'opinions' are not

valid.

> //With the litle reading I have done, I have come to know that in the ancient

time the months were mainly lunar months.//

> Where are the quotes? And why you are being so sure on this without evidence?

Do you want to argue that " Tapa, Tapasya, Madhu, Madhava etc " are Lunar months

and not solar?! Do you want to argue that Chaitra, Vaisakaha etc months are

Lunar in nature and there nevar existed solar and lunar months with the same

name (Lunar Chaitra and Solar Chaitra!) as AKK argues? Do you want to argue that

Nakshatra (Lunar) moths with 27 days each existed even though they didn't had a

name for those Nakshatra masas (Siderial months)?

> //In Atharva samhita ,we read of 'Ayanam maghaa'.From this, it is clear that

firstly there was Uttrayan at Magh purnima//

> What a confusion! Please not that you are mixing Lunar Months (with the words

Makha Purnima), Nakshtra masa (Ayanams Magha) and Solar moths (Uttarayana) . Why

you want to club Nakshatra Chakra with Lunar months? Ayana is Solar or Lunar in

nature?

> //> The change in equinox or solstice seems togo by the validity of the lunar

tithi.this could be the reason why we do not have Bhariniadi series and a jump

from Kritikadi to Aswiniadi.//

> What do you mean by those words? It doesn't make any sense to me as of now -

can you please elaborate and explain what you wanted to say?

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Hari Malla harimalla@ .>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadhji,Bhattach ayaji,

> > I am happy our discussiion is taking a interesting turn.I am glad I have

come in a critical juncture.Through our mutual cooperation, we may solve the

century long problem of calender reform.I find Bhatacharyaji is senior person

with a balanced view.Sreenadhji is also quite a careful person with critical

power of analaysis.Sunil Nairji seems to be philanthropist respecting the global

nature of the vedic culture which was clear from his last writing on vedic

culture.

> > Let us be without prejudices so we all arrive at the truth.As I have already

written in my last mail,let me remind my friends that there is mention of the

vernal equinox where we have the head of the in the vedas.

> > With the litle reading I have done, I have come to know that in the ancient

time the months were mainly lunar months.The seasons were also lunar as we see

that during the vedanga jyotish period the months started from magh sukla

pratipada as the winter solstice. In Atharva samhita ,we read of 'Ayanam

maghaa'.From this, it is clear that firstly there was Uttrayan at Magh

purnima,then it was shifted to magh sukla pratipada when mid aslesha and

dhanistha has been mentioned by Braha mihir. Then during the early centuries of

the christian era, we find Makar sakranti and poush purnima as the new solstice

even as mentioned by Barahmihir in Brihad samhita. This last we are still

celebrating.

> > The change in equinox or solstice seems togo by the validity of the lunar

tithi.this could be the reason why we do not have Bhariniadi series and a jump

from Kritikadi to Aswiniadi.

> > so let us please analyse it carefully, the facts we have come to know from

the ancient texts.Thank you

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