Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I never thought that he will do such type stupidity It is good that he has started writting himself to open his own imagination Fool,ayanamsa is used just to add or subtract to get initial point of sidereal it has nothing to do with daily motion of Sun Fool,have your heard of precession it is third motion of earth y which same point which is dakshiyana will become Uttarayana means lowly point will become highest point You dont know even a bit of astrology nakshtra are equi spaced sections now go and buy two lahiri ephemeries which use to give motion of moon in same nakshtra and see for how much duration moon stays in same nakstra,, it doesnt stay for same time in same nakshatra bhai meray do not write more and more as you are himself showing that you know nothing by becoming moderator and owner of a group a man cant become learned,, he can just by giving some respect to elders and learned person with heart instead giving abuses and humiliation stop this immedialtely and learn by discussions otherswise main tera jeena haram ker soonga internet per i will start hundreds of site and will write only shitty abuses for you so better stop your stupidity what you are telling about 1995 of calcutta'scalendar all learnerd person know that calnedar reform committe in 1945 took wrong decisiong only because of lahiri and other perosn were totally against of sidereal calendar as all other were aware that tropical is our vedic calndar In that committe 70% person were against lahiri go and read than talk otherwise learn by discussion instead of giving abuses anyway give single abuse i will tell you the meaning of it from here --- On Tue, 21/4/09, sreedhar.nambiar <sreedhar.nambiar wrote: sreedhar.nambiar <sreedhar.nambiar [vedic astrology] Fwd: Re: madhu ,madhav is solar vedic astrology Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 5:26 AM ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: dear sauvik ji Thanks . There is no culture without agriculture it says ,so long b4 this vedic hymns and all that A nomadic or fruit picking tribe society when turned into a river civilisation ( as all civilisations are based on one river ) then the agaiculture and its calenders happens ,so that is the first astronomical calnder then only all this spiritual festivals or calenders came into being . so mixing and mingling both is with evil mission only possible even the use of a siderial ( nasktra ) zodiacs for astrology happened because the point they find it is fixed ,any one can test it ,sun will b seeing the same point daily 3 minits 4 secnds earlier frm previous day ( it is the basis of ayanamsa ) ,means less 3 minits 4 secnds in 24 hrs ,where as if u see nakshtra as point u can see it exactly 24 hrs after also at same point u saw it previous day ,it is avilable after contuinous observation ,even the same observation will tell u a lot of abt earth and it s rotation and revolution etc and till u get revealed the earth is round in shape ( golakara prithwi ) where as they if they dont know tropical one they cannot use siderial zodiacs ( so it means hindus knows both zodiacs too ) but astrologicaly they can use siderial one only as concepts r diffrnt . this calendrical disguiced attacks r missionary induced to inject the inferiority complex in hindu youths ( unlike old generation new generation of english educated dont know abt religion and dharma ) and ppl ,as they the missionaries know value of hindu culture and knows it is main stumbling blocks in their mission .so any one joins with them can hav financial benefits too . if kaul wants a calender then see bengal even done in 1995 ,pls see my post on hindu panjika in this grp even one muslim was heading it i blv ,they were not running after astrologers and attack against predictiv astrology saying it is gimmick ,varahamihira is fraud ,surya sidhantha ( the grand father of all almanacs ) is monstrous error like this and all this astrological knowledge also we got frm greece, if not frm chaldeans ,if they cannot proov again atleast frm babylone etc . kutarkas in the name calender and vedas .. more later regrds sunil nair rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, " Souvik Dutta " explore_vulcan@ wrote: > > Sunil-ji, > I don't disagree with you..I used the word " academic " opposed to " personal " .. .we all may have biases (I am biased to the letter " A " ) but we should accept academic truths..and the book that you provided a link to should end all doubts about solar, lunar months...its there in the open > > Thanks again, > > Souvik > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear sauvik ji > > > > sorry i misread ur mail > > > > then when i re read it only came to know that what u r meaning by > > academics doubts > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > souvik ji > > > > > > > > > > > > feel free to ask any doubts > > > > > > Months fit into solar seasons ( as seasons and ritus can b controlled > > by > > > sun only ) these kaulians are simply waisting our time .Now if u use > > > vedanga jyothisha parameters then madhu madhav now it is in dec and > > jan > > > only ,and where it can b in vasantha ritu ?? it is obselet BC 1500 > > > itself .This is happneing at some point of history both can b similar > > ( > > > solar and lunar ) but we shud use our brain too > > > > > > even u read linga puran > > > > > > vedic rishies knows abt all various calenders and seasons > > > > > > they used it too > > > > > > the ppl who designed thithies and nakshtras knows every thing even > > yuga > > > and mahayuga concept is for astronomical purpose and seeing mean > > > position of planets too ,without sun degee (sun dgree -moon dgree/12 > > is > > > thithi ,) thithi is not possible .without suns dgree even they cannot > > b > > > sure when eclipses or even amavasya or pournamies .so how is it > > > possible if they dont use sun and his dgrees and even rasies positions > > > and mind it almanac is published earlier .I dont mean it is printed > > and > > > circulated .but some rishi kulas like atri was very famous for it and > > > they were heads of gavayamana sabhas who taught others all this > > > calculation and panchangas . > > > > > > what is first mantra in rigveda ?? > > > > > > i was not disclosing all this -because they will find another way to > > > twist it > > > > > > i posted some thing means whole book i dont need to support > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Souvik Dutta " > > > explore_vulcan@ wrote: > > > > > > > > I am sorry I couldn't keep my silence any longer..Can there be any > > > academic doubt after someone has read pages 39-50 of the book that > > > respected Sunil Nair-ji has posted in his mail??? I mentioned the word > > > " academic " because if someone is closed in his/her mindset no logic > > can > > > do any good to that individual.. .it is all a matter of choice! > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls see this link > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also seasons can b attached to solar only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://books. google.co. in/books? id=N3DE3GAyqcEC & pg=PA50 & lpg= PA50 & dq=madh\ \ \ > > \ > > > \ > > > > > > > > > > u+madhav+months & source=bl & ots=cxYRab3KeW & sig=f09hMMzIwDC4 K9-BycI2MjQevEE\ \ \ > > \ > > > \ > > > > > > > > > > & hl=en & ei=w2DsSZOMF I6PkAXj3K2mCA & sa=X & oi=book_ result & ct= result & resnum= 10 > > > > > > > > > > <http://books. google.co. in/books? id=N3DE3GAyqcEC & pg=PA50 & lpg= PA50 & dq=mad\ \ \ > > \ > > > \ > > > > > > > > > > hu+madhav+months & source=bl & ots=cxYRab3KeW & sig=f09hMMzIwDC4 K9-BycI2MjQevE\ \ \ > > \ > > > \ > > > > > > > > > > E & hl=en & ei=w2DsSZOM FI6PkAXj3K2mCA & sa=X & oi=book_ result & ct= result & resnum= 1\ \ \ > > \ > > > \ > > > > > 0> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- Now surf faster and smarter ! 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