Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Listen one more thing if Manmohan or L K Advani or Putin or OBAMA will come in my opposition i will not leave them from their own constituencies.... what you are showing me the power of your family legacy.... vedic astrology , " astrolearner_brazil " <astrolearner_brazil wrote: > > <Your agenda is clear : " there is no use of ayan which is most imp to calculate the ages and ancient times " . it is an Christian agenda aimed at destryoing Jyotisha which is an intrinsic part of Vedas (a Vedaanga). Your resapect for Dharma and festivals is clear from your anti-Jyotisha attitude and your " scholarly " stature is clear from your hatred for universities and scholars. As for your credentials in the field of science, you have made no contribution in the field of science, while my " scientific " (not astrological) research works have been verified by IISc, NASa and RMS (Royal Met Society). Your insulting anf bullying language is a proof of your real Dharma.> > > Intrinsic part of VEDA,,, have you ever read any VEDA??...where it is written abt Jyotish > > Have you ever read Purans?? what type of Rashi in that they have talked(it was tropical)...go and read.... > > We dont need to verify ou Purans and VEDAS from NASA, IISC, RMS....predictive gimmicks need to be verified.... > > <No power on Earth is capable of removing ayanaamsha from Jyotisha. You do not know its real worth, and are either driven by your ignorance of real worth of ayanamsha in Vedic astrology, or are driven by some agenda : I ao not know, but I am always suspicious of fake identities.> > > bhiaya meray, i am talking of Vedic Hindu Calendar based on Veidc months, i am not talking of ayanamsha for that go and fight and break heads of other ayanamsha followers.....who is talking of Jyotish here...i have agenda to tell reality which is written in VEDAS and PURANS in real sense... > > You talk of so many organizations go and read mails of R N Iyengar,, Proff from IISC, Civil deptt.... > > and for your kind information i know the power of predictions given by Jyotish deptt.(ex HOD BHU Ramchandra Pandey and Ex HOD Sampoorna nand university Pt. Ramji Mishra..... > > <Your statement is ludicrous : " i dont want to talk to you as you may reach to my home.. " !! You do not know the family I hail from. It is me who needs to keep aloof from insolent and ignorant fellows. but I will not allow any wrongheaded jihadi to attack our ancient science and religion> > > dear monk VINAY BIN LADEN,,,,go and show your family to somebody else not here... > > You are not more than laughingstock to me who cant be recognized by his own effots by his own family.... > > and listen go and do politics some where else as infrot of me it will not work.... > > and regarding abuses i am PhD in it so do your work and read VEDAS and Purans instead of Surya sidhanta which even cant locate real position of planets.... > > You are not more than laughing stock than me... > > jump again and write i will give more solid reply to you... > > You and your calendar are not less than Jihad.... > > You talk too much of astrology,, give only one prediction about me.... > > > > > vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > Mr astrolearner_brazil, > > > > You may be a great would-be-scholar who could not become a scholar, and was therefore reduced to the status of abusing others. Your words are highly insulting : " you are ignorant so talking like this...........you and your jihad has..............you are anti-hindu in the garb of astrologers..........have not read any thing and even doesnt know abt hindu festivals... " . If this is not abusive, do you want to descend to obscene abuses now ? I cannot retort in your language. Good people do not abuse others, and do not use fake ID to force through a jihadi agenda by threats. What do you mean by saying : " dont come in my way " ?? Are you emperor whose dictats about calendars and Dharma are to be slavishly followed by lesser mortals like us ? > > > > Your agenda is clear : " there is no use of ayan which is most imp to calculate the ages and ancient times " . it is an Christian agenda aimed at destryoing Jyotisha which is an intrinsic part of Vedas (a Vedaanga). Your resapect for Dharma and festivals is clear from your anti-Jyotisha attitude and your " scholarly " stature is clear from your hatred for universities and scholars. As for your credentials in the field of science, you have made no contribution in the field of science, while my " scientific " (not astrological) research works have been verified by IISc, NASa and RMS (Royal Met Society). Your insulting anf bullying language is a proof of your real Dharma. > > > > No power on Earth is capable of removing ayanaamsha from Jyotisha. You do not know its real worth, and are either driven by your ignorance of real worth of ayanamsha in Vedic astrology, or are driven by some agenda : I ao not know, but I am always suspicious of fake identities. > > > > Your statement is ludicrous : " i dont want to talk to you as you may reach to my home.. " !! You do not know the family I hail from. It is me who needs to keep aloof from insolent and ignorant fellows. but I will not allow any wrongheaded jihadi to attack our ancient science and religion. > > > > > > -VJ > > ================== ==== > > > > > > ________________________________ > > astrolearner_brazil <astrolearner_brazil@> > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:11:12 PM > > [vedic astrology] Fw: [HinduCalendar] Re: Calendar Reform versus Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amused at your stand and you are saying right internet is free for fools also(understand) > > > > we already following team of jihadi's proposed festivals... > > > > What you are showing to me about your students.... > > > > i was senior lecturer at one of NIT but left after 2 months... > > > > for your kind information i am alumnus of leading instt... > > > > i have crossed 3 times one of the most toughest exams and got calls from all leading instt of india except IIM-A(its hard luck i didnt make it to any because of poor communications as i dont belong to family where we talk in eng)... i have one of my call letter in my email of IIM-B... > > > > i have left Bacehlors in economics from leading US university after getting admission becaue of money > > > > for your kind information at my age ppl become judge and District magistrate and give judgement > > > > i hold my views and you should your and dont come in my way... > > > > you are talking of abuses... i have neither given you and nor want to give....even i dont want to talk to you as you may reach to my home after taking my complaints so i dont want to talk you... > > > > what hidden agenda you are talking... we are totally open like our VEDAS and PURANS.... > > > > go and read those than come and talk > > > > i already said that you are ignorant so talking like this.... > > > > one more thing you have been attached and you are,,with jyotish deptt not with any deptt which deals with Hindu Dharma > > > > Dont tell me about jyotish i know it in much better way > > > > you are talking of agenda who have not read any thing and even doesnt know abt hindu festivals which are based on what and what was the terminology of months > > > > you and your jihad has made our most beautifull calendar as rubbish where there is no use of ayan which is most imp to calculate the ages and ancient times... > > > > you are anti-hindu in the garb of astrologers > > > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I do not need certificates from you. I do not care for abuses. Internet is free for all, fools and wise(no personal attack on you, I am not like you). I wasted weeks on Hari Malla & c, he is immune to facts, mathematics and common sense. That is why I came to the conclusion that these fellows have some hidden agenda. If you are really concerned with learning, which does not seem to be the case perhaps, you may look at : > > > > > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Credentials > > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ NASA%27s_ Report%3B_ %26_my_Paper_ accepted_ by_CAOS%2C_ IISc > > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Vinay_Jha > > > > > > My students are heads of departments. I am amused at your abuses, keep on abusing. > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > astrolearner_ brazil <astrolearner_ brazil@ .> > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:29:59 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Fw: [HinduCalendar] Re: Calendar Reform versus Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of what tradition you are talking about?? > > > > > > Your knowledge is little and insufficient and you have to learn more and more and you are in half way of learning. > > > > > > and you are anti-hindu and ignorant > > > > > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > These baton weilders in the name of Dharma are at payroll of anti-Hindu organizations who want to destroy our traditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Astrolearner Brazil <astrolearner_ brazil@ .> > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:05:20 PM > > > > [vedic astrology] Fw: [HinduCalendar] Re: Calendar Reform versus Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/5/09, Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in> > > > > [HinduCalendar] Re: Calendar Reform versus Astrology > > > > HinduCalendar > > > > Wednesday, 13 May, 2009, 5:25 PM > > > > > > > > Yes i do agree with you. > > > > > > > > Some jokers and comedians in the garb of astrologers want to ruin our Hindu Dharma and making mockery of VEDAS and Purans(Though they have not read even a single sloka, if then translation from fellow astrologers articles).They are shame on the Hindu Dharma and should be handled by batons by our Hindu organizations like VHP and RSS. > > > > > > > > I also do practise astrology but for Hindu Dharma no compromise. As i am God fearing person so cant see adharma. > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > (Devout follower of Hinduism and active member of VHP & RSS) > > > > > > > > HinduCalendar, A Sharma <asharmanz@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I second AKK ji's and Hari Malla ji's positions. > > > > > ? > > > > > If AKKji was selfish, he would have begun publishing a panchaang for the masses. > > > > > ? > > > > > If Hari Malla ji was selfish, he too would have done the same. > > > > > ? > > > > > Those who have already begun publishing supposedly reformed panchaangs are selling them with known printing mistakes and maybe other mistakes. This shows their disregard for Dharma. Note that no matter what and how the mistakes come about, the Dush-Karma, Adharma, and Paap?generated from them goes directly upon the maker of the Panchaang. > > > > > ? > > > > > All these astrologers who are opposed to calendar reform are not Jyotishees and are only astrologers. Jyotishees have vision and this is the main differentiating factor between astrologers and Jyotishees. ... tamaso maa jyotirgamayaa ... . A Jyotishee has an open mind?and he knows that Karma can change a persons future and render the current or present horoscope/hand/ tarot reading void. A Jyotishee will support and work to make the calendar reform happen and an astrologer will resist. > > > > > ? > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel. / > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I gave up my family long ago. I know who you are, and if you think you can reform Dharma by means of abuses, try to reform yourself first. I have no agenda on internet, because very few people on internet have any interest in Suryasiddhanta. But internet is not whole of India. I have merely to leave my work for the posterity. As for your PhD in abuses, I am immune to such things. I am dropping this useless thread. -VJ ________________________________ astrolearner_brazil <astrolearner_brazil vedic astrology Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:58:09 PM [vedic astrology] Vinay Bin Laden Listen one more thing if Manmohan or L K Advani or Putin or OBAMA will come in my opposition i will not leave them from their own constituencies. ... what you are showing me the power of your family legacy.... vedic astrology, " astrolearner_ brazil " <astrolearner_ brazil@.. .> wrote: > > <Your agenda is clear : " there is no use of ayan which is most imp to calculate the ages and ancient times " . it is an Christian agenda aimed at destryoing Jyotisha which is an intrinsic part of Vedas (a Vedaanga). Your resapect for Dharma and festivals is clear from your anti-Jyotisha attitude and your " scholarly " stature is clear from your hatred for universities and scholars. As for your credentials in the field of science, you have made no contribution in the field of science, while my " scientific " (not astrological) research works have been verified by IISc, NASa and RMS (Royal Met Society). Your insulting anf bullying language is a proof of your real Dharma.> > > Intrinsic part of VEDA,,, have you ever read any VEDA??...where it is written abt Jyotish > > Have you ever read Purans?? what type of Rashi in that they have talked(it was tropical)... go and read.... > > We dont need to verify ou Purans and VEDAS from NASA, IISC, RMS....predictive gimmicks need to be verified.... > > <No power on Earth is capable of removing ayanaamsha from Jyotisha. You do not know its real worth, and are either driven by your ignorance of real worth of ayanamsha in Vedic astrology, or are driven by some agenda : I ao not know, but I am always suspicious of fake identities.> > > bhiaya meray, i am talking of Vedic Hindu Calendar based on Veidc months, i am not talking of ayanamsha for that go and fight and break heads of other ayanamsha followers... ..who is talking of Jyotish here...i have agenda to tell reality which is written in VEDAS and PURANS in real sense... > > You talk of so many organizations go and read mails of R N Iyengar,, Proff from IISC, Civil deptt.... > > and for your kind information i know the power of predictions given by Jyotish deptt.(ex HOD BHU Ramchandra Pandey and Ex HOD Sampoorna nand university Pt. Ramji Mishra..... > > <Your statement is ludicrous : " i dont want to talk to you as you may reach to my home.. " !! You do not know the family I hail from. It is me who needs to keep aloof from insolent and ignorant fellows. but I will not allow any wrongheaded jihadi to attack our ancient science and religion> > > dear monk VINAY BIN LADEN,,,,go and show your family to somebody else not here... > > You are not more than laughingstock to me who cant be recognized by his own effots by his own family.... > > and listen go and do politics some where else as infrot of me it will not work.... > > and regarding abuses i am PhD in it so do your work and read VEDAS and Purans instead of Surya sidhanta which even cant locate real position of planets.... > > You are not more than laughing stock than me... > > jump again and write i will give more solid reply to you... > > You and your calendar are not less than Jihad.... > > You talk too much of astrology,, give only one prediction about me.... > > > > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > Mr astrolearner_ brazil, > > > > You may be a great would-be-scholar who could not become a scholar, and was therefore reduced to the status of abusing others. Your words are highly insulting : " you are ignorant so talking like this........ ...you and your jihad has......... .....you are anti-hindu in the garb of astrologers. ......... have not read any thing and even doesnt know abt hindu festivals... " . If this is not abusive, do you want to descend to obscene abuses now ? I cannot retort in your language. Good people do not abuse others, and do not use fake ID to force through a jihadi agenda by threats. What do you mean by saying : " dont come in my way " ?? Are you emperor whose dictats about calendars and Dharma are to be slavishly followed by lesser mortals like us ? > > > > Your agenda is clear : " there is no use of ayan which is most imp to calculate the ages and ancient times " . it is an Christian agenda aimed at destryoing Jyotisha which is an intrinsic part of Vedas (a Vedaanga). Your resapect for Dharma and festivals is clear from your anti-Jyotisha attitude and your " scholarly " stature is clear from your hatred for universities and scholars. As for your credentials in the field of science, you have made no contribution in the field of science, while my " scientific " (not astrological) research works have been verified by IISc, NASa and RMS (Royal Met Society). Your insulting anf bullying language is a proof of your real Dharma. > > > > No power on Earth is capable of removing ayanaamsha from Jyotisha. You do not know its real worth, and are either driven by your ignorance of real worth of ayanamsha in Vedic astrology, or are driven by some agenda : I ao not know, but I am always suspicious of fake identities. > > > > Your statement is ludicrous : " i dont want to talk to you as you may reach to my home.. " !! You do not know the family I hail from. It is me who needs to keep aloof from insolent and ignorant fellows. but I will not allow any wrongheaded jihadi to attack our ancient science and religion. > > > > > > -VJ > > ============ ====== ==== > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > astrolearner_ brazil <astrolearner_ brazil@> > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:11:12 PM > > [vedic astrology] Fw: [HinduCalendar] Re: Calendar Reform versus Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amused at your stand and you are saying right internet is free for fools also(understand) > > > > we already following team of jihadi's proposed festivals... > > > > What you are showing to me about your students.... > > > > i was senior lecturer at one of NIT but left after 2 months... > > > > for your kind information i am alumnus of leading instt... > > > > i have crossed 3 times one of the most toughest exams and got calls from all leading instt of india except IIM-A(its hard luck i didnt make it to any because of poor communications as i dont belong to family where we talk in eng)... i have one of my call letter in my email of IIM-B... > > > > i have left Bacehlors in economics from leading US university after getting admission becaue of money > > > > for your kind information at my age ppl become judge and District magistrate and give judgement > > > > i hold my views and you should your and dont come in my way... > > > > you are talking of abuses... i have neither given you and nor want to give....even i dont want to talk to you as you may reach to my home after taking my complaints so i dont want to talk you... > > > > what hidden agenda you are talking... we are totally open like our VEDAS and PURANS.... > > > > go and read those than come and talk > > > > i already said that you are ignorant so talking like this.... > > > > one more thing you have been attached and you are,,with jyotish deptt not with any deptt which deals with Hindu Dharma > > > > Dont tell me about jyotish i know it in much better way > > > > you are talking of agenda who have not read any thing and even doesnt know abt hindu festivals which are based on what and what was the terminology of months > > > > you and your jihad has made our most beautifull calendar as rubbish where there is no use of ayan which is most imp to calculate the ages and ancient times... > > > > you are anti-hindu in the garb of astrologers > > > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I do not need certificates from you. I do not care for abuses. Internet is free for all, fools and wise(no personal attack on you, I am not like you). I wasted weeks on Hari Malla & c, he is immune to facts, mathematics and common sense. That is why I came to the conclusion that these fellows have some hidden agenda. If you are really concerned with learning, which does not seem to be the case perhaps, you may look at : > > > > > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Credentials > > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ NASA%27s_ Report%3B_ %26_my_Paper_ accepted_ by_CAOS%2C_ IISc > > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Vinay_Jha > > > > > > My students are heads of departments. I am amused at your abuses, keep on abusing. > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > astrolearner_ brazil <astrolearner_ brazil@ .> > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:29:59 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Fw: [HinduCalendar] Re: Calendar Reform versus Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of what tradition you are talking about?? > > > > > > Your knowledge is little and insufficient and you have to learn more and more and you are in half way of learning. > > > > > > and you are anti-hindu and ignorant > > > > > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > These baton weilders in the name of Dharma are at payroll of anti-Hindu organizations who want to destroy our traditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Astrolearner Brazil <astrolearner_ brazil@ .> > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:05:20 PM > > > > [vedic astrology] Fw: [HinduCalendar] Re: Calendar Reform versus Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/5/09, Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in> > > > > [HinduCalendar] Re: Calendar Reform versus Astrology > > > > HinduCalendar > > > > Wednesday, 13 May, 2009, 5:25 PM > > > > > > > > Yes i do agree with you. > > > > > > > > Some jokers and comedians in the garb of astrologers want to ruin our Hindu Dharma and making mockery of VEDAS and Purans(Though they have not read even a single sloka, if then translation from fellow astrologers articles).They are shame on the Hindu Dharma and should be handled by batons by our Hindu organizations like VHP and RSS. > > > > > > > > I also do practise astrology but for Hindu Dharma no compromise. As i am God fearing person so cant see adharma. > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > (Devout follower of Hinduism and active member of VHP & RSS) > > > > > > > > HinduCalendar, A Sharma <asharmanz@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I second AKK ji's and Hari Malla ji's positions. > > > > > ? > > > > > If AKKji was selfish, he would have begun publishing a panchaang for the masses. > > > > > ? > > > > > If Hari Malla ji was selfish, he too would have done the same. > > > > > ? > > > > > Those who have already begun publishing supposedly reformed panchaangs are selling them with known printing mistakes and maybe other mistakes. This shows their disregard for Dharma. Note that no matter what and how the mistakes come about, the Dush-Karma, Adharma, and Paap?generated from them goes directly upon the maker of the Panchaang. > > > > > ? > > > > > All these astrologers who are opposed to calendar reform are not Jyotishees and are only astrologers. Jyotishees have vision and this is the main differentiating factor between astrologers and Jyotishees. ... tamaso maa jyotirgamayaa ... . A Jyotishee has an open mind?and he knows that Karma can change a persons future and render the current or present horoscope/hand/ tarot reading void. A Jyotishee will support and work to make the calendar reform happen and an astrologer will resist. > > > > > ? > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel. / > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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