Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nehaji, Which postings in particular are you referring to ? On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc wrote: > > > Promoters, > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions are > awaited from your side. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else ... Jignesh vedic astrology , Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv wrote: > > Nehaji, > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc wrote: > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions are > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Dear Vinay Jha ji, Please reply to the below grievances against you ? On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc wrote: > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > and nothing else ... > Jignesh > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>, > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv wrote: > > > > Nehaji, > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions are > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I do not care for abusers, shahnehainc ji. -VJ =================== === ________________________________ shahnehainc <shahnehainc vedic astrology Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:30:41 PM [vedic astrology] Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Promoters, Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions are awaited from your side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Jitendra Trivedi Ji, Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you may be a new fake ID of this person. -VJ ________________________________ Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv vedic astrology ; vinayjhaa16 Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Dear Vinay Jha ji, Please reply to the below grievances against you ? On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > wrote: > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > and nothing else ... > Jignesh > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>, > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> wrote: > > > > Nehaji, > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions are > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Mr Jignesh, I was surprised why you are behaving so erratically. Any member here, including me, is not your servant to be compelled to analyze your horoscope. Besides, you were incapable to realize that a sanyaasi should not be misbehaved in this way and asked to help in arranging marriages. It is against the norms of sanyaasa. Your resolve to insult the institution of sanyaas will close your door to propitiation of planets. I am not cursing you, I am sincere. Deities are not your servants. You can propitiate deities through devotion. But gods will not accept the devotion of anyone who insults sanyaasis. My free software seems a business to you !! Now, you may devote your time to launch a tirade against me and my free software. I do not care. I renounced worldliness long ago, I do not care for worldly prizes or abuses. If you marry, you will torment your spouse to death, because the MD lord is in house of death in D9.You have chances if you reform yourself and propitiate your bad planets through real devotion and humility, which you lack.Your D1 has lord of 7th house Mars sitting in ascendant. Current MD is of Jupiter which is in 11th house of its bitter enemy and combust, and is lord of 6th (besides of 6th) in D1. All these are bad for matrimony. Evem worse is D9 in which Jupiter is in 8th house and is debilitated, which means either marriage will never take place or will be a sad and transitory affair. -VJ =============== ========= ________________________________ shahnehainc <shahnehainc vedic astrology Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:48:10 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else ... Jignesh vedic astrology, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> wrote: > > Nehaji, > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions are > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Dear Jignesh, I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity of Mr.Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to your emails. Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his work. Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only defame you. I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and soon by replying few queries too. Dear Vinay Jha Ji, I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and mankind as a whole. I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group will be better place. Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > -VJ > > ________________________________ > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv <trivedijv%40gmail.com>> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>; > vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16%40> > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > and nothing else ... > > Jignesh > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > 40. com>, > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > are > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Vinay Vinay Eating Sugar ? Telling Lies ?? Open Your Mouth ??? Better its shut . . . Mr. Vinay " Half Truth is as good as a Lie " vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > Mr Jignesh, > > I was surprised why you are behaving so erratically. Any member here, including me, is not your servant to be compelled to analyze your horoscope. Besides, you were incapable to realize that a sanyaasi should not be misbehaved in this way and asked to help in arranging marriages. It is against the norms of sanyaasa. Your resolve to insult the institution of sanyaas will close your door to propitiation of planets. I am not cursing you, I am sincere. Deities are not your servants. You can propitiate deities through devotion. But gods will not accept the devotion of anyone who insults sanyaasis. My free software seems a business to you !! > > Now, you may devote your time to launch a tirade against me and my free software. I do not care. I renounced worldliness long ago, I do not care for worldly prizes or abuses. If you marry, you will torment your spouse to death, because the MD lord is in house of death in D9.You have chances if you reform yourself and propitiate your bad planets through real devotion and humility, which you lack.Your D1 has lord of 7th house Mars sitting in ascendant. Current MD is > of Jupiter which is in 11th house of its bitter enemy and combust, and > is lord of 6th (besides of 6th) in D1. All these are bad for matrimony. > Evem worse is D9 in which Jupiter is in 8th house and is debilitated, > which means either marriage will never take place or will be a sad and > transitory affair. > > -VJ > > =============== ========= > > > ________________________________ > shahnehainc <shahnehainc > vedic astrology > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:48:10 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else ... > Jignesh > > vedic astrology, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > Nehaji, > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions are > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Jitendra ji, I apologize for my hasty reaction. The manner in which Mr Prashant Pandey is abusing me, at the behest of Mr AK Kaul & c, with many IDs, for my opposition to their advocacy of a tropical system without ayanamsha, made me suspect this new member to be a fake ID. The manner a member with fake ID " serenity forever " has abused me today shows my suspicions are not unfounded. To abuse without provocation means there must be some reason elsewhere. AIA is abusing me ever since i joined fora, and some of its members tried to sell my free software while tried to push me out of all fora by means of abuses, including obscene ones. Some others in AIA are duped by Mr Chandrahari who has propounded a new theory of ayanamsha which he falsely connects to Suryasiddhanta. He should propagate his theory in his own name and not falsely using the name of an ancient text which has no relation at all with his theory. He and his followers know I am an expert of Suryasiddhanta, hence they want my expulsion from all fora (Mr Chandrahari once incited his followers to kill me, litearaally, in AIA). I have successfully used emails as evidences in legal suits, and these persons do not know thay can be sued for libel. Even a fake ID reveals the exact house from which messages are sent. But I have loftier causes. -VJ ================= ==== ________________________________ Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv vedic astrology Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:41:52 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Dear Jignesh, I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity of Mr.Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to your emails. Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his work. Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only defame you. I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and soon by replying few queries too. Dear Vinay Jha Ji, I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and mankind as a whole. I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group will be better place. Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > -VJ > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > and nothing else ... > > Jignesh > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > 40. com>, > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > are > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 My reply was bitter truth which i wanted not to tell, but was forced to, and when told it is unpalatable. OK. But i never lie. It is 100% sincere and friendly answer, but a bad D9 also means a bad attitude towards " Dharma " , because D9 is important not only for spouse but for Dharma as well. I expected abuses from such persons for my free and sincere service. -VJ ================= === ________________________________ shahnehainc <shahnehainc vedic astrology Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:12:09 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Vinay Vinay Eating Sugar ? Telling Lies ?? Open Your Mouth ??? Better its shut . . . Mr. Vinay " Half Truth is as good as a Lie " vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > Mr Jignesh, > > I was surprised why you are behaving so erratically. Any member here, including me, is not your servant to be compelled to analyze your horoscope. Besides, you were incapable to realize that a sanyaasi should not be misbehaved in this way and asked to help in arranging marriages. It is against the norms of sanyaasa. Your resolve to insult the institution of sanyaas will close your door to propitiation of planets. I am not cursing you, I am sincere. Deities are not your servants. You can propitiate deities through devotion. But gods will not accept the devotion of anyone who insults sanyaasis. My free software seems a business to you !! > > Now, you may devote your time to launch a tirade against me and my free software. I do not care. I renounced worldliness long ago, I do not care for worldly prizes or abuses. If you marry, you will torment your spouse to death, because the MD lord is in house of death in D9.You have chances if you reform yourself and propitiate your bad planets through real devotion and humility, which you lack.Your D1 has lord of 7th house Mars sitting in ascendant. Current MD is > of Jupiter which is in 11th house of its bitter enemy and combust, and > is lord of 6th (besides of 6th) in D1. All these are bad for matrimony. > Evem worse is D9 in which Jupiter is in 8th house and is debilitated, > which means either marriage will never take place or will be a sad and > transitory affair. > > -VJ > > ============ === ========= > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > vedic astrology > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:48:10 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else ... > Jignesh > > vedic astrology, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > Nehaji, > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions are > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Vinayji, My ID is not fake and its not necessary that one's ID should reveil his / her real name as the ID may be a pet name / spouse name / company's name etc . . . Ok lets cut this topic short from now . . . Hope to find your healthly reply from onwards . . . Regards, Jignesh Patel vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > My reply was bitter truth which i wanted not to tell, but was forced to, and when told it is unpalatable. OK. But i never lie. It is 100% sincere and friendly answer, but a bad D9 also means a bad attitude towards " Dharma " , because D9 is important not only for spouse but for Dharma as well. I expected abuses from such persons for my free and sincere service. > > -VJ > ================= === > > > ________________________________ > shahnehainc <shahnehainc > vedic astrology > Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:12:09 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Vinay Vinay > Eating Sugar ? > Telling Lies ?? > Open Your Mouth ??? > > Better its shut . . . > > Mr. Vinay " Half Truth is as good as a Lie " > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > Mr Jignesh, > > > > I was surprised why you are behaving so erratically. Any member here, including me, is not your servant to be compelled to analyze your horoscope. Besides, you were incapable to realize that a sanyaasi should not be misbehaved in this way and asked to help in arranging marriages. It is against the norms of sanyaasa. Your resolve to insult the institution of sanyaas will close your door to propitiation of planets. I am not cursing you, I am sincere. Deities are not your servants. You can propitiate deities through devotion. But gods will not accept the devotion of anyone who insults sanyaasis. My free software seems a business to you !! > > > > Now, you may devote your time to launch a tirade against me and my free software. I do not care. I renounced worldliness long ago, I do not care for worldly prizes or abuses. If you marry, you will torment your spouse to death, because the MD lord is in house of death in D9.You have chances if you reform yourself and propitiate your bad planets through real devotion and humility, which you lack.Your D1 has lord of 7th house Mars sitting in ascendant. Current MD is > > of Jupiter which is in 11th house of its bitter enemy and combust, and > > is lord of 6th (besides of 6th) in D1. All these are bad for matrimony. > > Evem worse is D9 in which Jupiter is in 8th house and is debilitated, > > which means either marriage will never take place or will be a sad and > > transitory affair. > > > > -VJ > > > > ============ === ========= > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:48:10 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else ... > > Jignesh > > > > vedic astrology, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions are > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 < . The manner in which Mr Prashant Pandey is abusing me, at the behest of Mr AK Kaul & c, with many IDs, for my opposition to > You have lost battle(Shastrartha) on this democratic forum now you will run all around whiningly, i only send my mails on this forum as i know my mails would not be chopped here as i have already analysed horoscope of owner of this group(strenght of 8'th house) Vinay should use world Maya astrology inplace of Vedic Astrology for his astrology as i have already said that NKS mandala itself are moving according to the VEDAS and NKS are of not equal divisions and those are 0 to 28 degrees One rot like MAYA hijacked all our dharmashastra and you can check his manipulation on your own from VEDAS MAYA said that our earth does vibrationsla motion but in VEDAS our Rishis have written about VE and other cadinal points MAYA who was GREEK was so much busy in his manipulation he forgets to read VEDAS and he made story in the name of constellation and posed that theory on hindu dharma and they hijacked our Hindu VEDAS and HINDU univ.... Thanks to the owner of this group Mr PVR and moderator Narayan Iyer ji, even i have strained relationships even than they allowed my mails. Thanks again JAI HIND vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > Jitendra ji, > > I apologize for my hasty reaction. The manner in which Mr Prashant Pandey is abusing me, at the behest of Mr AK Kaul & c, with many IDs, for my opposition to their advocacy of a tropical system without ayanamsha, made me suspect this new member to be a fake ID. The manner a member with fake ID " serenity forever " has abused me today shows my suspicions are not unfounded. To abuse without provocation means there must be some reason elsewhere. > > AIA is abusing me ever since i joined fora, and some of its members tried to sell my free software while tried to push me out of all fora by means of abuses, including obscene ones. > > Some others in AIA are duped by Mr Chandrahari who has propounded a new theory of ayanamsha which he falsely connects to Suryasiddhanta. He should propagate his theory in his own name and not falsely using the name of an ancient text which has no relation at all with his theory. He and his followers know I am an expert of Suryasiddhanta, hence they want my expulsion from all fora (Mr Chandrahari once incited his followers to kill me, litearaally, in AIA). > > I have successfully used emails as evidences in legal suits, and these > persons do not know thay can be sued for libel. Even a fake ID reveals > the exact house from which messages are sent. But I have loftier > causes. > > -VJ > > ================= ==== > > > ________________________________ > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv > vedic astrology > Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:41:52 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Dear Jignesh, > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > of Mr.Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > your emails. > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > work. > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > defame you. > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > soon by replying few queries too. > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > mankind as a whole. > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > will be better place. > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > -VJ > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > and nothing else ... > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > 40. com>, > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > are > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Instead of analyzing others' charts, look at your own. I will not degrade myself to your level by using foul words, Mr Prashant Pandey urf astrolearner_brazil -VJ ========= = ________________________________ astrolearner_brazil <astrolearner_brazil vedic astrology Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:11:32 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha < . The manner in which Mr Prashant Pandey is abusing me, at the behest of Mr AK Kaul & c, with many IDs, for my opposition to > You have lost battle(Shastrartha) on this democratic forum now you will run all around whiningly, i only send my mails on this forum as i know my mails would not be chopped here as i have already analysed horoscope of owner of this group(strenght of 8'th house) Vinay should use world Maya astrology inplace of Vedic Astrology for his astrology as i have already said that NKS mandala itself are moving according to the VEDAS and NKS are of not equal divisions and those are 0 to 28 degrees One rot like MAYA hijacked all our dharmashastra and you can check his manipulation on your own from VEDAS MAYA said that our earth does vibrationsla motion but in VEDAS our Rishis have written about VE and other cadinal points MAYA who was GREEK was so much busy in his manipulation he forgets to read VEDAS and he made story in the name of constellation and posed that theory on hindu dharma and they hijacked our Hindu VEDAS and HINDU univ.... Thanks to the owner of this group Mr PVR and moderator Narayan Iyer ji, even i have strained relationships even than they allowed my mails. Thanks again JAI HIND vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ....> wrote: > > Jitendra ji, > > I apologize for my hasty reaction. The manner in which Mr Prashant Pandey is abusing me, at the behest of Mr AK Kaul & c, with many IDs, for my opposition to their advocacy of a tropical system without ayanamsha, made me suspect this new member to be a fake ID. The manner a member with fake ID " serenity forever " has abused me today shows my suspicions are not unfounded. To abuse without provocation means there must be some reason elsewhere. > > AIA is abusing me ever since i joined fora, and some of its members tried to sell my free software while tried to push me out of all fora by means of abuses, including obscene ones. > > Some others in AIA are duped by Mr Chandrahari who has propounded a new theory of ayanamsha which he falsely connects to Suryasiddhanta. He should propagate his theory in his own name and not falsely using the name of an ancient text which has no relation at all with his theory. He and his followers know I am an expert of Suryasiddhanta, hence they want my expulsion from all fora (Mr Chandrahari once incited his followers to kill me, litearaally, in AIA). > > I have successfully used emails as evidences in legal suits, and these > persons do not know thay can be sued for libel. Even a fake ID reveals > the exact house from which messages are sent. But I have loftier > causes. > > -VJ > > ============ ===== ==== > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> > vedic astrology > Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:41:52 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Dear Jignesh, > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > of Mr.Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > your emails. > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > work. > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > defame you. > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > soon by replying few queries too. > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > mankind as a whole. > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > will be better place. > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > -VJ > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > and nothing else ... > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > 40. com>, > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > are > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 HA HA HA HA YES YES SAYING RIGHT JUMP HIGHER AND HIGHER vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > Instead of analyzing others' charts, look at your own. I will not degrade myself to your level by using foul words, Mr Prashant Pandey urf astrolearner_brazil > > -VJ > > ========= = > > > ________________________________ > astrolearner_brazil <astrolearner_brazil > vedic astrology > Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:11:32 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > < . The manner in which Mr Prashant Pandey is > abusing me, at the behest of Mr AK Kaul & c, with many IDs, for my opposition to > > > You have lost battle(Shastrartha) on this democratic forum now you will run all around whiningly, i only send my mails on this forum as i know my mails would not be chopped here as i have already analysed horoscope of owner of this group(strenght of 8'th house) > > Vinay should use world Maya astrology inplace of Vedic Astrology for his astrology as i have already said that NKS mandala itself are moving according to the VEDAS and NKS are of not equal divisions and those are 0 to 28 degrees > > One rot like MAYA hijacked all our dharmashastra and you can check his manipulation on your own from VEDAS > > MAYA said that our earth does vibrationsla motion but in VEDAS our Rishis have written about VE and other cadinal points > > MAYA who was GREEK was so much busy in his manipulation he forgets to read VEDAS and he made story in the name of constellation and posed that theory on hindu dharma and they hijacked our Hindu VEDAS and HINDU univ.... > > Thanks to the owner of this group Mr PVR and moderator Narayan Iyer ji, even i have strained relationships even than they allowed my mails. > > Thanks again > > JAI HIND > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ....> wrote: > > > > Jitendra ji, > > > > I apologize for my hasty reaction. The manner in which Mr Prashant Pandey is abusing me, at the behest of Mr AK Kaul & c, with many IDs, for my opposition to their advocacy of a tropical system without ayanamsha, made me suspect this new member to be a fake ID. The manner a member with fake ID " serenity forever " has abused me today shows my suspicions are not unfounded. To abuse without provocation means there must be some reason elsewhere. > > > > AIA is abusing me ever since i joined fora, and some of its members tried to sell my free software while tried to push me out of all fora by means of abuses, including obscene ones. > > > > Some others in AIA are duped by Mr Chandrahari who has propounded a new theory of ayanamsha which he falsely connects to Suryasiddhanta. He should propagate his theory in his own name and not falsely using the name of an ancient text which has no relation at all with his theory. He and his followers know I am an expert of Suryasiddhanta, hence they want my expulsion from all fora (Mr Chandrahari once incited his followers to kill me, litearaally, in AIA). > > > > I have successfully used emails as evidences in legal suits, and these > > persons do not know thay can be sued for libel. Even a fake ID reveals > > the exact house from which messages are sent. But I have loftier > > causes. > > > > -VJ > > > > ============ ===== ==== > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:41:52 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jignesh, > > > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > > of Mr.Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > > your emails. > > > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > > work. > > > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > > defame you. > > > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > > soon by replying few queries too. > > > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > > mankind as a whole. > > > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > > will be better place. > > > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > > and nothing else ... > > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > > 40. com>, > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > > are > > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Hello Sir,  Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha.  I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite'??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore.  I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions?  I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste.  He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv wrote: Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha vedic astrology Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM Dear Jignesh, I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity of Mr.Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to your emails. Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his work. Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only defame you. I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and soon by replying few queries too. Dear Vinay Jha Ji, I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and mankind as a whole. I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group will be better place. Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > -VJ > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > and nothing else ... > > Jignesh > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > 40. com>, > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > are > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/Serenity could approach them. But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. -VJ ================= ==== ________________________________ serenity forever <serenity_forever4 vedic astrology Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Hello Sir, Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha vedic astrology Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM Dear Jignesh, I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity of Mr.Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to your emails. Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his work. Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only defame you. I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and soon by replying few queries too. Dear Vinay Jha Ji, I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and mankind as a whole. I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group will be better place. Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > -VJ > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > and nothing else ... > > Jignesh > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > 40. com>, > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > are > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging... Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form. J Nair ________________________________ Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 vedic astrology Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. -VJ ============ ===== ==== ____________ _________ _________ __ serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > vedic astrology Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Hello Sir, Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha vedic astrology Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM Dear Jignesh, I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to your emails. Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his work. Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only defame you. I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and soon by replying few queries too. Dear Vinay Jha Ji, I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and mankind as a whole. I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group will be better place. Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > -VJ > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > and nothing else ... > > Jignesh > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > 40. com>, > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > are > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 VJ and PGB(Moderator JR) both are crap Sunil Bhatacharjya has already proved his calculation as totally wrong of 60 yrs weather forecast, when Sunil Bhattacharjya claimed about that, he recollected his mistake that time His software is crap and God knows what type of ayanamsha he is talking about, he is stick to that calculation which can not locate Surya position he is talking about that calculation which everybody knows are absurd and all persons have left that calculation as there is no reality and now all ppl use data provided by NASA and all ppl also use data provided by observatories Now can we trust on his any calculation? He only shouts with high pitch just to show ppl that he is correct He talks of Kali-Yuga and absurd calculation of lacks of years which are totally absurd everybody knows in this scientific world but God knows why he thinks that his absurd calculations are correct Our Sunil Bhattacharjya asked him how many verses are in Suryasidhanta he was not able to answer Can moderator of this group BAN him from here or he will spare this group from absurd calculations Love and Regards Nanku Bhaskar vedic astrology , jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote wrote: > > > > Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging... > Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys > fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? > > Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form. > > J Nair > > > ________________________________ > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 > vedic astrology > Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. > > " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. > > But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . > > When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. > > Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. > > -VJ > ============ ===== ==== > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > > vedic astrology > Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Hello Sir, > > Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. > > I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. > > I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? > > I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. > > He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. > > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > vedic astrology > Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM > > Dear Jignesh, > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > your emails. > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > work. > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > defame you. > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > soon by replying few queries too. > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > mankind as a whole. > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > will be better place. > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > -VJ > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > and nothing else ... > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > 40. com>, > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > are > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Thanks Sunil Nair for the message You are saviour of this group Love and Regards Nanku Bhaskar vedic astrology , jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote wrote: > > > > Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging... > Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys > fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? > > Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form. > > J Nair > > > ________________________________ > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 > vedic astrology > Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. > > " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. > > But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . > > When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. > > Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. > > -VJ > ============ ===== ==== > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > > vedic astrology > Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Hello Sir, > > Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. > > I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. > > I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? > > I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. > > He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. > > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > vedic astrology > Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM > > Dear Jignesh, > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > your emails. > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > work. > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > defame you. > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > soon by replying few queries too. > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > mankind as a whole. > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > will be better place. > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > -VJ > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > and nothing else ... > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > 40. com>, > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > are > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Mr Jayasreedaran Nairhas not a word against those who are needlessly abusing me , yet he posts sarcasting remarks against me ( " Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. " ). These fellows want me to be aabused, and blame me if I post a non-abusive reply. I am called " moron, nervous-wreck " etc, and now a 'boaster " . Have I abused anyone ? It is not hard to see that some people who have nothing to contribute are here merely for abusing and disrupting discussion. -Vinay Jha =================== === ________________________________ jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote vedic astrology Friday, May 22, 2009 11:15:10 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging. .. Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form.. J Nair ____________ _________ _________ __ Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > vedic astrology Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. -VJ ============ ===== ==== ____________ _________ _________ __ serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > vedic astrology Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Hello Sir, Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha vedic astrology Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM Dear Jignesh, I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to your emails. Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his work. Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only defame you. I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and soon by replying few queries too. Dear Vinay Jha Ji, I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and mankind as a whole. I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group will be better place. Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > -VJ > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > and nothing else ... > > Jignesh > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > 40. com>, > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > are > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Mr Bhaskar and Mr Sunil Nair of AIA have got fake IDs to start an abusive campaign against me. These two fellows have no interest in serious discussions. I will post obscene abuses sent by these fellows to me (by Bhaskar) if they waste the time of members here by useless abuses. It is an unmoderated forum perhapse, that is why these persons are intent on destroying it. These persons should keep away from me and my softwares. They are commercial astrologers, but I am surprized why they feel jealousy, because I am not in commercial competitiopn with anyone, I never charged any fees for my astrological services or softwares. Both these fellows are abusing me merely because my works were appreciated by world's leading scientific institutions ( Click_Here ) -Vinay Jha ================ ===== ________________________________ nanku_singh6816 <nanku_singh6816 vedic astrology Friday, May 22, 2009 11:29:15 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha VJ and PGB(Moderator JR) both are crap Sunil Bhatacharjya has already proved his calculation as totally wrong of 60 yrs weather forecast, when Sunil Bhattacharjya claimed about that, he recollected his mistake that time His software is crap and God knows what type of ayanamsha he is talking about, he is stick to that calculation which can not locate Surya position he is talking about that calculation which everybody knows are absurd and all persons have left that calculation as there is no reality and now all ppl use data provided by NASA and all ppl also use data provided by observatories Now can we trust on his any calculation? He only shouts with high pitch just to show ppl that he is correct He talks of Kali-Yuga and absurd calculation of lacks of years which are totally absurd everybody knows in this scientific world but God knows why he thinks that his absurd calculations are correct Our Sunil Bhattacharjya asked him how many verses are in Suryasidhanta he was not able to answer Can moderator of this group BAN him from here or he will spare this group from absurd calculations Love and Regards Nanku Bhaskar vedic astrology, jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote@ ....> wrote: > > > > Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging. .. > Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys > fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? > > Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form. > > J Nair > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> > vedic astrology > Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. > > " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. > > But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . > > When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. > > Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. > > -VJ > ============ ===== ==== > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > > vedic astrology > Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Hello Sir, > > Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. > > I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. > > I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? > > I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. > > He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. > > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > vedic astrology > Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM > > Dear Jignesh, > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > your emails. > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > work. > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > defame you. > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > soon by replying few queries too. > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > mankind as a whole. > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > will be better place. > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > -VJ > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > and nothing else ... > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > 40. com>, > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > are > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Cool Down Mr.Jha... Why dont you just ignore them and concentrate on more important things. If you are sure about yourself,why bother proving it to the world. Anyways I dont want to take these discussion further. Good nite. ________________________________ Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 vedic astrology Friday, 22 May, 2009 11:59:12 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Mr Jayasreedaran Nairhas not a word against those who are needlessly abusing me , yet he posts sarcasting remarks against me ( " Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. " ). These fellows want me to be aabused, and blame me if I post a non-abusive reply. I am called " moron, nervous-wreck " etc, and now a 'boaster " . Have I abused anyone ? It is not hard to see that some people who have nothing to contribute are here merely for abusing and disrupting discussion. -Vinay Jha ============ ======= === ____________ _________ _________ __ jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote@ .co. in> vedic astrology Friday, May 22, 2009 11:15:10 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging. .. Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form.. J Nair ____________ _________ _________ __ Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > vedic astrology Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me.. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. -VJ ============ ===== ==== ____________ _________ _________ __ serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > vedic astrology Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Hello Sir, Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below.. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha vedic astrology Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM Dear Jignesh, I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to your emails. Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his work. Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only defame you. I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and soon by replying few queries too. Dear Vinay Jha Ji, I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and mankind as a whole. I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group will be better place. Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > -VJ > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > and nothing else ... > > Jignesh > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > 40. com>, > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > are > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 You did not abuse anyone Mr. Vinay Jha, you simply called people with no bad intentions who just gave a suggestion as 'it' and 'hermaphrodite'. I actually believe 'moron' and 'nervous-wreck' are no match to the words you have used (which are actually passive abuses).  Anyways you can assume whatever and go on forever complaining/abusing. I am out of this idiotic discussion. --- On Fri, 5/22/09, jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote wrote: jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha vedic astrology Friday, May 22, 2009, 11:46 AM Cool Down Mr.Jha... Why dont you just ignore them and concentrate on more important things. If you are sure about yourself,why bother proving it to the world. Anyways I dont want to take these discussion further. Good nite. ____________ _________ _________ __ Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > vedic astrology Friday, 22 May, 2009 11:59:12 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Mr Jayasreedaran Nairhas not a word against those who are needlessly abusing me , yet he posts sarcasting remarks against me ( " Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. " ). These fellows want me to be aabused, and blame me if I post a non-abusive reply. I am called " moron, nervous-wreck " etc, and now a 'boaster " . Have I abused anyone ? It is not hard to see that some people who have nothing to contribute are here merely for abusing and disrupting discussion. -Vinay Jha ============ ======= === ____________ _________ _________ __ jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote@ .co. in> vedic astrology Friday, May 22, 2009 11:15:10 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging. .. Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form.. J Nair ____________ _________ _________ __ Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > vedic astrology Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me.. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. -VJ ============ ===== ==== ____________ _________ _________ __ serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > vedic astrology Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Hello Sir, Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below.. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha vedic astrology Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM Dear Jignesh, I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to your emails. Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his work. Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only defame you. I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and soon by replying few queries too. Dear Vinay Jha Ji, I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and mankind as a whole. I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group will be better place. Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > -VJ > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > and nothing else ... > > Jignesh > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > 40. com>, > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > are > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Dear Bhaskar jee, That message was from jayasreedaran nair and not Sunil jee ;-) RR vedic astrology , " nanku_singh6816 " <nanku_singh6816 wrote: > > Thanks Sunil Nair for the message > You are saviour of this group > > Love and Regards > Nanku Bhaskar > > vedic astrology , jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging... > > Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys > > fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? > > > > Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form. > > > > J Nair > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@> > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. > > > > " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. > > > > But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . > > > > When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. > > > > Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. > > > > -VJ > > ============ ===== ==== > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > Hello Sir, > > > > Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. > > > > I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. > > > > I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? > > > > I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. > > > > He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. > > > > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM > > > > Dear Jignesh, > > > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > > of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > > your emails. > > > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > > work. > > > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > > defame you. > > > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > > soon by replying few queries too. > > > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > > mankind as a whole. > > > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > > will be better place. > > > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > > and nothing else ... > > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > > 40. com>, > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > > are > > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 RR Ji, I was unwilling to publicize the obsence abuses sent to me by " Respectable " Bhaskar Ji alias thousands of fake IDs (for floating a fake with thousands of fake members). Following is one of the many " scholarly " message to me from " Respectable " Bhaskar ji : <<<<<<< Bhaskar <rajiventerprises vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16 Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:50:45 PM You bastard Abe hinjde, // (I had informed him yesterday through email that I left AIA, hence his first target was this forum and not AIA because I will never answer anyone there). Suchabusive remarks can be sent to me through PM/email. // When did you write to me and inform me that you had posted me a mail ? Gali ka kutta hai kya tu ? tere pachas baap hai kya ?Ya randiyon ka dalaal hai Tu ? Jhoot kyon bol raha hai ek acche aadmi ke liye ? Tujhe pata hai iska parinam kya hoga ? Agar Bhaskarji chahe toh tere thobdaa ek din mein kaala kar denge ek hi mantra padh kar.Sammjhe kutte ki aulad. Bastard does not know anything about astrology or astronomy but keepsfucking around like a parasite. >>>>>>> His real name is something else. I did not want to destroy his hapinness and business by taking appropriate action on him.He had promised to keep away from me, but now he is forgetting his promise. If he persists in his disruptive activities, I will broadcast his obscene messages and real identity to everyone. -VJ =============== ====== ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani vedic astrology Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:43:36 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Dear Bhaskar jee, That message was from jayasreedaran nair and not Sunil jee ;-) RR vedic astrology, " nanku_singh6816 " <nanku_singh6816@ ....> wrote: > > Thanks Sunil Nair for the message > You are saviour of this group > > Love and Regards > Nanku Bhaskar > > vedic astrology, jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging. .. > > Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys > > fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? > > > > Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form. > > > > J Nair > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. > > > > " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. > > > > But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . > > > > When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. > > > > Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. > > > > -VJ > > ============ ===== ==== > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > Hello Sir, > > > > Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. > > > > I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. > > > > I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? > > > > I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. > > > > He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. > > > > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM > > > > Dear Jignesh, > > > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > > of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > > your emails. > > > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > > work. > > > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > > defame you. > > > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > > soon by replying few queries too. > > > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > > mankind as a whole. > > > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > > will be better place. > > > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > > and nothing else ... > > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > > 40. com>, > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > > are > > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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