Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Vinay ji I forgot to add that is best to ignore such messages and the messenger they take too much of our time and energy i rarely react tot hem and fortunately not part of te 2 filthy groups so am a lot happier now whatever time I get i will prefer to use for astrology's sake, than such creeps. so be patient and also KEEP THE goal in mind to demosntrate the case studies and this alone can silence them also it is now just jundalini ueed to distribute but even the BPHS Chowkamba also else with diff applications and s/w it ca't deliver even if good, acceptable same rules need to be used for its expected results u can test run a bikes engine on a car can u best wishes ________________________________ Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 vedic astrology Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:13:38 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha RR Ji, I was unwilling to publicize the obsence abuses sent to me by " Respectable " Bhaskar Ji alias thousands of fake IDs (for floating a fake with thousands of fake members). Following is one of the many " scholarly " message to me from " Respectable " Bhaskar ji : <<<<<<< Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ hathway.com> vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ > Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:50:45 PM You bastard Abe hinjde, // (I had informed him yesterday through email that I left AIA, hence his first target was this forum and not AIA because I will never answer anyone there). Suchabusive remarks can be sent to me through PM/email. // When did you write to me and inform me that you had posted me a mail ? Gali ka kutta hai kya tu ? tere pachas baap hai kya ?Ya randiyon ka dalaal hai Tu ? Jhoot kyon bol raha hai ek acche aadmi ke liye ? Tujhe pata hai iska parinam kya hoga ? Agar Bhaskarji chahe toh tere thobdaa ek din mein kaala kar denge ek hi mantra padh kar.Sammjhe kutte ki aulad. Bastard does not know anything about astrology or astronomy but keepsfucking around like a parasite. >>>>>>> His real name is something else. I did not want to destroy his hapinness and business by taking appropriate action on him.He had promised to keep away from me, but now he is forgetting his promise. If he persists in his disruptive activities, I will broadcast his obscene messages and real identity to everyone. -VJ ============ === ====== ____________ _________ _________ __ Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> vedic astrology Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:43:36 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Dear Bhaskar jee, That message was from jayasreedaran nair and not Sunil jee ;-) RR vedic astrology, " nanku_singh6816 " <nanku_singh6816@ ....> wrote: > > Thanks Sunil Nair for the message > You are saviour of this group > > Love and Regards > Nanku Bhaskar > > vedic astrology, jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging. .. > > Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys > > fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? > > > > Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form. > > > > J Nair > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. > > > > " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. > > > > But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . > > > > When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. > > > > Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. > > > > -VJ > > ============ ===== ==== > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > Hello Sir, > > > > Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. > > > > I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. > > > > I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? > > > > I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. > > > > He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. > > > > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM > > > > Dear Jignesh, > > > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > > of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > > your emails. > > > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > > work. > > > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > > defame you. > > > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > > soon by replying few queries too. > > > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > > mankind as a whole. > > > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > > will be better place. > > > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > > and nothing else ... > > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > > 40. com>, > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > > are > > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Vinay Shah-ji Why you didnt give abuse to Bhaskar like @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Gali ka kutta hai kya tu ? tere pachas baap hai kya @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ In reply Teri maa kutiya thi aur pachas kuttay teri maa ko chodtay the @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Sammjhe kutte ki aulad @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Teri maa kutiya thi,50 kutton ne choda hoga tab tuu paida huaa hoga so simple it is His whole team Bhaskar, Neelam, Sunil give you abuses daily, you can check on your own those abuses on thier forum, please read all past msgs 2 days back they only gave abuses to you on their forum You should also continue with tirade vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > RR Ji, > > I was unwilling to publicize the obsence abuses sent to me by " Respectable " Bhaskar Ji alias thousands of fake IDs (for floating a fake with thousands of fake members). Following is one of the many " scholarly " message to me from " Respectable " Bhaskar ji : > > <<<<<<< > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises > vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16 > Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:50:45 PM > You bastard > > Abe hinjde, > > // (I had informed him yesterday through email that I left AIA, hence his first target was this forum and not AIA because I will never answer anyone there). Suchabusive remarks can be sent to me through PM/email. // > > When did you write to me and inform me that you had posted me a mail ? > > Gali ka kutta hai kya tu ? tere pachas baap hai kya ?Ya randiyon ka dalaal hai Tu ? > > Jhoot kyon bol raha hai ek acche aadmi ke liye ? Tujhe pata hai iska parinam kya hoga ? Agar Bhaskarji chahe toh tere thobdaa ek din mein kaala kar denge ek hi mantra padh kar.Sammjhe kutte ki aulad. > > Bastard does not know anything about astrology or astronomy but keepsfucking around like a parasite. > >>>>>>> > > > His real name is something else. I did not want to destroy his hapinness and business by taking appropriate action on him.He had promised to keep away from me, but now he is forgetting his promise. If he persists in his disruptive activities, I will broadcast his obscene messages and real identity to everyone. > > -VJ > =============== ====== > > > ________________________________ > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani > vedic astrology > Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:43:36 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar jee, > > That message was from jayasreedaran nair and not Sunil jee ;-) > > RR > > vedic astrology, " nanku_singh6816 " <nanku_singh6816@ ....> wrote: > > > > Thanks Sunil Nair for the message > > You are saviour of this group > > > > Love and Regards > > Nanku Bhaskar > > > > vedic astrology, jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging. .. > > > Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys > > > fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? > > > > > > Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form. > > > > > > J Nair > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. > > > > > > " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. > > > > > > But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . > > > > > > When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. > > > > > > Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. > > > > > > -VJ > > > ============ ===== ==== > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Hello Sir, > > > > > > Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. > > > > > > I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. > > > > > > I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? > > > > > > I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. > > > > > > He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. > > > > > > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > vedic astrology > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM > > > > > > Dear Jignesh, > > > > > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > > > of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > > > your emails. > > > > > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > > > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > > > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > > > work. > > > > > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > > > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > > > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > > > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > > > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > > > defame you. > > > > > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > > > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > > > soon by replying few queries too. > > > > > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > > > > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > > > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > > > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > > > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > > > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > > > mankind as a whole. > > > > > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > > > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > > > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > > > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > > > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > > > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > > > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > > > will be better place. > > > > > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > > > > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > > > > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > > > and nothing else ... > > > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > > > are > > > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 To j_janam : I took an oath before my departed Guruji long ago that all women in the world all my mothers. I have to observe many other oaths too, as a part of lifelong brahmacharya. Hence, Bhaskar's mother is my mother. I am incapable of abusing anyone. My mundane father, mother, sister are all dead. Abuses are like barks of dogs on the road which no one cares for. Some people have special yogas in their kundalis which induces them to abuse monks. These special yogas will punish them ultimately, I do not need to retaliate. If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them. -VJ ======================= === ________________________________ " j_janam " <j_janam vedic astrology Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:39:59 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Vinay Shah-ji Why you didnt give abuse to Bhaskar like @@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@ Gali ka kutta hai kya tu ? tere pachas baap hai kya @@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@ In reply Teri maa kutiya thi aur pachas kuttay teri maa ko chodtay the @@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@ Sammjhe kutte ki aulad @@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@ Teri maa kutiya thi,50 kutton ne choda hoga tab tuu paida huaa hoga so simple it is His whole team Bhaskar, Neelam, Sunil give you abuses daily, you can check on your own those abuses on thier forum, please read all past msgs 2 days back they only gave abuses to you on their forum You should also continue with tirade vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > RR Ji, > > I was unwilling to publicize the obsence abuses sent to me by " Respectable " Bhaskar Ji alias thousands of fake IDs (for floating a fake with thousands of fake members). Following is one of the many " scholarly " message to me from " Respectable " Bhaskar ji : > > <<<<<<< > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...> > vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ ...> > Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:50:45 PM > You bastard > > Abe hinjde, > > // (I had informed him yesterday through email that I left AIA, hence his first target was this forum and not AIA because I will never answer anyone there). Suchabusive remarks can be sent to me through PM/email. // > > When did you write to me and inform me that you had posted me a mail ? > > Gali ka kutta hai kya tu ? tere pachas baap hai kya ?Ya randiyon ka dalaal hai Tu ? > > Jhoot kyon bol raha hai ek acche aadmi ke liye ? Tujhe pata hai iska parinam kya hoga ? Agar Bhaskarji chahe toh tere thobdaa ek din mein kaala kar denge ek hi mantra padh kar.Sammjhe kutte ki aulad. > > Bastard does not know anything about astrology or astronomy but keepsfucking around like a parasite. > >>>>>>> > > > His real name is something else. I did not want to destroy his hapinness and business by taking appropriate action on him.He had promised to keep away from me, but now he is forgetting his promise. If he persists in his disruptive activities, I will broadcast his obscene messages and real identity to everyone. > > -VJ > ============ === ====== > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ ...> > vedic astrology > Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:43:36 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar jee, > > That message was from jayasreedaran nair and not Sunil jee ;-) > > RR > > vedic astrology, " nanku_singh6816 " <nanku_singh6816@ ....> wrote: > > > > Thanks Sunil Nair for the message > > You are saviour of this group > > > > Love and Regards > > Nanku Bhaskar > > > > vedic astrology, jayasreedaran nair <jayan_chorote@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guys please give the other members of the forum a break? I wonder how people have so much time to indulge in such crap of mudslinging. .. > > > Those of you who boast of qualifications and certified credentials do not seem to have the basic thing known as civic sense. Why cant you guys > > > fix a time and venue for a hand to hand fight and leave others alone? > > > > > > Sorry I had to tell this seeing the way such stupid discussions are perpetuating in this form. > > > > > > J Nair > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, 21 May, 2009 10:31:54 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know who this " serenity forever " is, and I am not interested in learning whether " serenity forever " is he, she or it. If anyone keeps a fake ID, I cannot know it, and my remarks like " he, she or it " do not amount to abusing. > > > > > > " Serenity forever " wanted me to predict marriage of Jignesh, I have never done such a job and will never do it ; it is against my principles. I took an oath before my late Guru ji that all women in the world, including infants, are my mothers, and it is sinful to help in marriage of one's mother. I do not visit marriages. " Serenity forever " is feigning to forget that I requested not to force a sanyaasi go against his principles. There are many astrologers, Jignesh/Neha/ Serenity could approach them. > > > > > > But these " sane " persons are now calling me names ( " moron " , " nervous wreck " , " how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by " ). In spite of my refusal to predict marriage, these persons were teasing me, and are now feigning to be " innocent passer-by " . > > > > > > When I refused to predict his marriage, Mr Jignesh accused me : " it seems that he is only to propogate his software and nothing else " . My free software seems business to Mr Jignesh. > > > > > > Neha Shah (shahnehainc) called me " moron, nervous wreck " . Then, I became curious why these people are harassing me. I am not their family astrologer or a servant to obey their commands. " Serenity forever " poked his/her/its nose between by calling me to predict marriages against my principles. And calls me an abuser if I fail to understand whether " Serenity forever " is a nickname for Jignesh or Neha who are abusing me because they could not force a sanyaasi to predict marriages !! Keeping fake ID for creating confusion and taking sides with abusers is not an innocent. " Serenity forever " is certainly not an " innocent passer-by " and has taken up the issue of Jignesh and Neha. The manner in which this fake ID intruded on behalf of Jignesh and Neha convinces me that it is a fake ID of Neha. They want to abuse me and are inventing causes for abusing me. Some people with special yogas imagine monks must be treated like servants. > > > > > > -VJ > > > ============ ===== ==== > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:52:16 PM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Hello Sir, > > > > > > Though this email doesnt concern me, just would like to throw my few cents on what you are saying below. You can accept it or not but please dont get highly frustrated and throw abuses and allege wrong people like Mr.Jha. > > > > > > I am sure he is a really learned person, if you say so, there's no doubt about it. Its good you support him, but how sane is it if he goes around accues innocent passer-by's who just offered a suggestion, accusing them of abusing them and further abusing them calling them 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' ??? Knowledge should give one humbleness. But if it gives arrogance and frustration, I am not sure about the quality of knowledge anymore. > > > > > > I m guessing he should be in his 50s or 60s, alteast age wise he should act mature and try understand people instead of abusing them in the name of truth. Why does he have to think only he talks truth and everybody else is lying about thier ids and intentions? > > > > > > I am sorry to say this, but I dont see any point in encouraging such people by reading thier responses. As I said earlier, knowledge without humbleness is a waste. > > > > > > He had abused me that I am so and so and used several nicks and called me 'it' and 'hermaphrodite' without even giving a 1 second thought as to check if I had posted earlier in this group or am really someone faking as someone else. That's really outrageous. > > > > > > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > vedic astrology > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:11 PM > > > > > > Dear Jignesh, > > > > > > I agree with Mr.Jha's statements. Infact I am already aware of authenticity > > > of Mr..Jha. However I wanted him to answer, hence I requested him to reply to > > > your emails. > > > > > > Mr.Vinay is a coveted and respected member of the Vedic-Astrology group. He > > > has benevolently distributed his software developed by him through rigorous > > > efforts. For which I and only few others have been able to appreciate his > > > work. > > > > > > Unfortunately, a new comer, yourself and few others have made blatant > > > derogatory remarks to Mr.Vinay. This is totally not acceptable. You are a > > > beginner, and you have to embrace humbleness as your quality, which should > > > compell seniors (like Mr.Vinay) to really feel spiritually indebted to > > > answer your queries. Wiedling foul language like an immature user will only > > > defame you. > > > > > > I request you to please be polite and humble enough hence-forth to the > > > members. I am sure you will be contributing to the group by your queries and > > > soon by replying few queries too. > > > > > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > > > > > I appologize for the wrong words used by some of the users on the group. I > > > am sorry for their behaviour, as they have targetted you for venting of > > > their frustration (which is incorrect). I know you are spirtually matured > > > and kind enough to give one more chance to the users. I thoroughly > > > appreciate your contribution not only to the group but to the society and > > > mankind as a whole. > > > > > > I have seen many posts where in users simply write to moderators to > > > ban/control users for purported mis-behaving. Please comprehend the fact > > > that this group is a " free " group. Moderators have other daunting tasks in > > > real world too, may be more urgent than we understand. Hence alike freedom > > > of speech in democracy there are always going to be few users who will > > > resort to unpleasant / foul language. For which I think the group > > > collectively is responsible. I request all to moderate " ourself " and group > > > will be better place. > > > > > > Finally, I am not the moderator. I am veteran user (just like any of you). > > > > > > सरà¥à¤µà¥‡ à¤à¤µà¤‚तॠसà¥à¤–ीनः > > > > > > ज़ितेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° / Jitendra > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi Ji, > > > > > > > > Why you do not read the previous posts befire interfering ? Or are you also > > > > a fake ID of this extraordinary person having many IDs (Jignesh, Shahneha > > > > etc) who wants to force me to predict his/her marriage ? Am I his servant ?I > > > > said I am a software developer and not a professional astrologer. > > > > > > > > I am notgoing to answer all such posts. You may ask promoters to ban me > > > > just because I refused to predict the marriage of this person who uses both > > > > a male and a female ID (read his/her own mails). > > > > > > > > The manner in which you have assumed the role of arbitrator suggests you > > > > may be a new fake ID of this person. > > > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv (AT) gmail (DOT) com <trivedijv%40gmail. com>> > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% 40. com>; > > > > vinayjhaa16@ <vinayjhaa16% 40> > > > > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:24:05 PM > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > > > Dear Vinay Jha ji, > > > > > > > > Please reply to the below grievances against you ? > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen a few but it seems that he is only to propogate his software > > > > > and nothing else ... > > > > > Jignesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > Jitendra Trivedi <trivedijv@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nehaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Which postings in particular are you referring to ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Promoters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly, refer the posting of Mr. Vinay Jha and appropriate actions > > > > are > > > > > > > awaited from your side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Je dois essayi encore! BARK = Protects a dog through active act of protection against threats BARK = Protects a tree (older the better) against vermin! BOTH protect the living organism (dog and tree) against any bites! It works smoothly and well in english but what about other languages? Any takers ...? vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > To j_janam : > > I took an oath before my departed Guruji long ago that all women in the world all my mothers. I have to observe many other oaths too, as a part of lifelong brahmacharya. Hence, Bhaskar's mother is my mother. I am incapable of abusing anyone. > > My mundane father, mother, sister are all dead. Abuses are like barks of dogs on the road which no one cares for. > > Some people have special yogas in their kundalis which induces them to abuse monks. These special yogas will punish them ultimately, I do not need to retaliate. If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them. > > -VJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 My previous statement " If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them " is a general statement of my principle and not targeted as an abuse against any individual. It sould not be meant to imply that those who abuse me are dogs. They are human beings, although misguided. There are many Bhaskars and I do not abuse anyone. Rohiniranjan Ji has tried to drive home the point that barkers are " ptotecting " themselves against some perceived threat, but I fail to understand what threats I posed to anyone. -VJ ================== === ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani vedic astrology Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:27:23 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Je dois essayi encore! BARK = Protects a dog through active act of protection against threats BARK = Protects a tree (older the better) against vermin! BOTH protect the living organism (dog and tree) against any bites! It works smoothly and well in english but what about other languages? Any takers ...? vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > To j_janam : > > I took an oath before my departed Guruji long ago that all women in the world all my mothers. I have to observe many other oaths too, as a part of lifelong brahmacharya. Hence, Bhaskar's mother is my mother. I am incapable of abusing anyone. > > My mundane father, mother, sister are all dead. Abuses are like barks of dogs on the road which no one cares for. > > Some people have special yogas in their kundalis which induces them to abuse monks. These special yogas will punish them ultimately, I do not need to retaliate. If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them. > > -VJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Wrong again, Vinay jee! I will leave it at that and let you mull over it some more... ;-) RR vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > My previous statement " If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them " is a general statement of my principle and not targeted as an abuse against any individual. It sould not be meant to imply that those who abuse me are dogs. They are human beings, although misguided. > > There are many Bhaskars and I do not abuse anyone. > > > Rohiniranjan Ji has tried to drive home the point that barkers are " ptotecting " themselves against some perceived threat, but I fail to understand what threats I posed to anyone. > > -VJ > ================== === > > > ________________________________ > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani > vedic astrology > Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:27:23 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Je dois essayi encore! > > BARK = Protects a dog through active act of protection against threats > > BARK = Protects a tree (older the better) against vermin! > > BOTH protect the living organism (dog and tree) against any bites! > > It works smoothly and well in english but what about other languages? > > Any takers ...? > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > To j_janam : > > > > I took an oath before my departed Guruji long ago that all women in the world all my mothers. I have to observe many other oaths too, as a part of lifelong brahmacharya. Hence, Bhaskar's mother is my mother. I am incapable of abusing anyone. > > > > My mundane father, mother, sister are all dead. Abuses are like barks of dogs on the road which no one cares for. > > > > Some people have special yogas in their kundalis which induces them to abuse monks. These special yogas will punish them ultimately, I do not need to retaliate. If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them. > > > > -VJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 The enemy is never the one outside but the one inside! Teachers and " Gurus " should really inculcate that in their disciples! RR vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > My previous statement " If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them " is a general statement of my principle and not targeted as an abuse against any individual. It sould not be meant to imply that those who abuse me are dogs. They are human beings, although misguided. > > There are many Bhaskars and I do not abuse anyone. > > > Rohiniranjan Ji has tried to drive home the point that barkers are " ptotecting " themselves against some perceived threat, but I fail to understand what threats I posed to anyone. > > -VJ > ================== === > > > ________________________________ > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani > vedic astrology > Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:27:23 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Je dois essayi encore! > > BARK = Protects a dog through active act of protection against threats > > BARK = Protects a tree (older the better) against vermin! > > BOTH protect the living organism (dog and tree) against any bites! > > It works smoothly and well in english but what about other languages? > > Any takers ...? > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > To j_janam : > > > > I took an oath before my departed Guruji long ago that all women in the world all my mothers. I have to observe many other oaths too, as a part of lifelong brahmacharya. Hence, Bhaskar's mother is my mother. I am incapable of abusing anyone. > > > > My mundane father, mother, sister are all dead. Abuses are like barks of dogs on the road which no one cares for. > > > > Some people have special yogas in their kundalis which induces them to abuse monks. These special yogas will punish them ultimately, I do not need to retaliate. If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them. > > > > -VJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Vinay ji, I hope u see it in the right way no offense is meant by those lines it works for both sides the barking dog that feels insecure or a barking dog that is basically offnsive but the saying barking don't doen't bite is also part of such QUOTES! and the enemy or threat within can be interpreted as our own patience, discretion to ignore or respond or remain calm if u vist jyotish group u will see the founder of this group Sri P V Narshima rao ji also the creater of Jhora and has many topics based and scriptures based articles, puja vidhis etc in mp4 froms and even lessons in mp3 forms with a vast knowledge base a IIT-Chennai product now in US had analysied the chart of Lalit Misra and said after 2016 Lalit could achive a spiritual high level but the gangsters who attack anyone were also not sparing Lalit he gave them back and these gangsters were shocked to see their villan being " projected " as a sait in the making he had given a clear RIDER that if Lait curbs his Maritian influences which these ppl ignored but took him on in such cheap fashion as u r seeing what u, me r getting now a days from them PVN doesn't know astrology he is misusing astrological principles to portray a villian as a saint etc when sri PVN has given 2 stage reading one it s far awat from today and a rider on the Maritian endencies did not Valmaki, Purandara dasa, Pundalik Ypgo vemmana, etc not change from a barbaric past and became legends and saints if we can't see such a progression in human beings over a time if combinations r there we can't expect to push the clock forward either and above all disbelive what we predict for anyone and astrological principles itself clouded in PREJUDICES? IN ALL THESE not once did THE GREAT SAINT p v nRARSHIMA RAO JI RETALIATE, ABUSE, CURSE, THREATEN HIS CRITICS RATHER WROTE MORE PATIENTLY AS EVER on the objections raised on lalit's readings and quitely left it there -take it or leave it but these ppl went over board preceeding it was a bitter exchange betwen them and lalit Misra Lalit Misra also did nos spare anyone even I was attacked in this forum from asking him to show restraint on Pt R dakshina murthy ji in JR HE DID COME AFTER SOME PROGRESSION WHAT LEVEL we can't say BUT HAD TO LEAVE AGAIN DUE TO SAME MEMBERS HE FELT I WAS BIASED TO THEM AND THEY FELT VICE VERSA and Nuterality is a v difficult job I had pleaded like in ur case allow them to work in peace if they r good public will accept them, else reject them why assume the role of judges. best wishes Prashant G B Prashant Kumar ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani vedic astrology Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:00:57 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha The enemy is never the one outside but the one inside! Teachers and " Gurus " should really inculcate that in their disciples! RR vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > My previous statement " If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them " is a general statement of my principle and not targeted as an abuse against any individual. It sould not be meant to imply that those who abuse me are dogs. They are human beings, although misguided. > > There are many Bhaskars and I do not abuse anyone. > > > Rohiniranjan Ji has tried to drive home the point that barkers are " ptotecting " themselves against some perceived threat, but I fail to understand what threats I posed to anyone. > > -VJ > ============ ====== === > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ ...> > vedic astrology > Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:27:23 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Je dois essayi encore! > > BARK = Protects a dog through active act of protection against threats > > BARK = Protects a tree (older the better) against vermin! > > BOTH protect the living organism (dog and tree) against any bites! > > It works smoothly and well in english but what about other languages? > > Any takers ...? > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > To j_janam : > > > > I took an oath before my departed Guruji long ago that all women in the world all my mothers. I have to observe many other oaths too, as a part of lifelong brahmacharya. Hence, Bhaskar's mother is my mother. I am incapable of abusing anyone. > > > > My mundane father, mother, sister are all dead. Abuses are like barks of dogs on the road which no one cares for. > > > > Some people have special yogas in their kundalis which induces them to abuse monks. These special yogas will punish them ultimately, I do not need to retaliate. If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them. > > > > -VJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 What non-astrologer members joining here to seek remedies will feel when if they find astrologers " barking " at each other ! Astrologers must control their language. -VJ ========================= === ________________________________ Prashant kumar-Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti vedic astrology Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:33:31 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Vinay ji, I hope u see it in the right way no offense is meant by those lines it works for both sides the barking dog that feels insecure or a barking dog that is basically offnsive but the saying barking don't doen't bite is also part of such QUOTES! and the enemy or threat within can be interpreted as our own patience, discretion to ignore or respond or remain calm if u vist jyotish group u will see the founder of this group Sri P V Narshima rao ji also the creater of Jhora and has many topics based and scriptures based articles, puja vidhis etc in mp4 froms and even lessons in mp3 forms with a vast knowledge base a IIT-Chennai product now in US had analysied the chart of Lalit Misra and said after 2016 Lalit could achive a spiritual high level but the gangsters who attack anyone were also not sparing Lalit he gave them back and these gangsters were shocked to see their villan being " projected " as a sait in the making he had given a clear RIDER that if Lait curbs his Maritian influences which these ppl ignored but took him on in such cheap fashion as u r seeing what u, me r getting now a days from them PVN doesn't know astrology he is misusing astrological principles to portray a villian as a saint etc when sri PVN has given 2 stage reading one it s far awat from today and a rider on the Maritian endencies did not Valmaki, Purandara dasa, Pundalik Ypgo vemmana, etc not change from a barbaric past and became legends and saints if we can't see such a progression in human beings over a time if combinations r there we can't expect to push the clock forward either and above all disbelive what we predict for anyone and astrological principles itself clouded in PREJUDICES? IN ALL THESE not once did THE GREAT SAINT p v nRARSHIMA RAO JI RETALIATE, ABUSE, CURSE, THREATEN HIS CRITICS RATHER WROTE MORE PATIENTLY AS EVER on the objections raised on lalit's readings and quitely left it there -take it or leave it but these ppl went over board preceeding it was a bitter exchange betwen them and lalit Misra Lalit Misra also did nos spare anyone even I was attacked in this forum from asking him to show restraint on Pt R dakshina murthy ji in JR HE DID COME AFTER SOME PROGRESSION WHAT LEVEL we can't say BUT HAD TO LEAVE AGAIN DUE TO SAME MEMBERS HE FELT I WAS BIASED TO THEM AND THEY FELT VICE VERSA and Nuterality is a v difficult job I had pleaded like in ur case allow them to work in peace if they r good public will accept them, else reject them why assume the role of judges. best wishes Prashant G B Prashant Kumar ____________ _________ _________ __ Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> vedic astrology Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:00:57 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha The enemy is never the one outside but the one inside! Teachers and " Gurus " should really inculcate that in their disciples! RR vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > My previous statement " If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them " is a general statement of my principle and not targeted as an abuse against any individual. It sould not be meant to imply that those who abuse me are dogs. They are human beings, although misguided. > > There are many Bhaskars and I do not abuse anyone. > > > Rohiniranjan Ji has tried to drive home the point that barkers are " ptotecting " themselves against some perceived threat, but I fail to understand what threats I posed to anyone. > > -VJ > ============ ====== === > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ ...> > vedic astrology > Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:27:23 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Je dois essayi encore! > > BARK = Protects a dog through active act of protection against threats > > BARK = Protects a tree (older the better) against vermin! > > BOTH protect the living organism (dog and tree) against any bites! > > It works smoothly and well in english but what about other languages? > > Any takers ...? > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > To j_janam : > > > > I took an oath before my departed Guruji long ago that all women in the world all my mothers. I have to observe many other oaths too, as a part of lifelong brahmacharya. Hence, Bhaskar's mother is my mother. I am incapable of abusing anyone. > > > > My mundane father, mother, sister are all dead. Abuses are like barks of dogs on the road which no one cares for. > > > > Some people have special yogas in their kundalis which induces them to abuse monks. These special yogas will punish them ultimately, I do not need to retaliate. If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them. > > > > -VJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Vinay ji this is the PINT that we r all striving esp moderators, and thei group owners to see that there is no drft, slight away from JYOTISHYA and with a open mind and approach and time to heal any rulleled feelings did reach out to all, not all made use of the open approach to all the episode i had show u of how sri PVN RAO ji responded is the benchmark for all astrologers and the reaction that followed it was what must not be done by anyone claiming to be astrologers a SLANDEROUS READING WITH A PERVERTED INTENTION O THE HOROSCOPES OF THE 2 quarrelling members then Baskar an Lalit misra used all sub human language to deride one another sadly so this must be avoided by all of us and I would like to emulate PVN rao ji but occassionally do get to respond when the owner of my group was also ben dragged into it for no reason and when i respond still they claim am using him, how can defendiong some be so twisted anyway it is good now u too see the point we must not let non astrologer members MORE SO THE TROUBLED MEMBERS WHO COME TO SEEK HELP in their troubles see us as more troubled and run way from here [forums] the subject and the image of astrologers as a community is at stake so lets work to protect it and any differencesbe addressed in the personal [private email DOMAIN only Prashant G B Prashant Kumar n ________________________________ Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 vedic astrology Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:02:56 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha What non-astrologer members joining here to seek remedies will feel when if they find astrologers " barking " at each other ! Astrologers must control their language. -VJ ============ ========= ==== === ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant kumar-Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti > vedic astrology Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:33:31 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha Vinay ji, I hope u see it in the right way no offense is meant by those lines it works for both sides the barking dog that feels insecure or a barking dog that is basically offnsive but the saying barking don't doen't bite is also part of such QUOTES! and the enemy or threat within can be interpreted as our own patience, discretion to ignore or respond or remain calm if u vist jyotish group u will see the founder of this group Sri P V Narshima rao ji also the creater of Jhora and has many topics based and scriptures based articles, puja vidhis etc in mp4 froms and even lessons in mp3 forms with a vast knowledge base a IIT-Chennai product now in US had analysied the chart of Lalit Misra and said after 2016 Lalit could achive a spiritual high level but the gangsters who attack anyone were also not sparing Lalit he gave them back and these gangsters were shocked to see their villan being " projected " as a sait in the making he had given a clear RIDER that if Lait curbs his Maritian influences which these ppl ignored but took him on in such cheap fashion as u r seeing what u, me r getting now a days from them PVN doesn't know astrology he is misusing astrological principles to portray a villian as a saint etc when sri PVN has given 2 stage reading one it s far awat from today and a rider on the Maritian endencies did not Valmaki, Purandara dasa, Pundalik Ypgo vemmana, etc not change from a barbaric past and became legends and saints if we can't see such a progression in human beings over a time if combinations r there we can't expect to push the clock forward either and above all disbelive what we predict for anyone and astrological principles itself clouded in PREJUDICES? IN ALL THESE not once did THE GREAT SAINT p v nRARSHIMA RAO JI RETALIATE, ABUSE, CURSE, THREATEN HIS CRITICS RATHER WROTE MORE PATIENTLY AS EVER on the objections raised on lalit's readings and quitely left it there -take it or leave it but these ppl went over board preceeding it was a bitter exchange betwen them and lalit Misra Lalit Misra also did nos spare anyone even I was attacked in this forum from asking him to show restraint on Pt R dakshina murthy ji in JR HE DID COME AFTER SOME PROGRESSION WHAT LEVEL we can't say BUT HAD TO LEAVE AGAIN DUE TO SAME MEMBERS HE FELT I WAS BIASED TO THEM AND THEY FELT VICE VERSA and Nuterality is a v difficult job I had pleaded like in ur case allow them to work in peace if they r good public will accept them, else reject them why assume the role of judges. best wishes Prashant G B Prashant Kumar ____________ _________ _________ __ Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> vedic astrology Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:00:57 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha The enemy is never the one outside but the one inside! Teachers and " Gurus " should really inculcate that in their disciples! RR vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > My previous statement " If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them " is a general statement of my principle and not targeted as an abuse against any individual. It sould not be meant to imply that those who abuse me are dogs. They are human beings, although misguided. > > There are many Bhaskars and I do not abuse anyone. > > > Rohiniranjan Ji has tried to drive home the point that barkers are " ptotecting " themselves against some perceived threat, but I fail to understand what threats I posed to anyone. > > -VJ > ============ ====== === > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ ...> > vedic astrology > Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:27:23 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > Je dois essayi encore! > > BARK = Protects a dog through active act of protection against threats > > BARK = Protects a tree (older the better) against vermin! > > BOTH protect the living organism (dog and tree) against any bites! > > It works smoothly and well in english but what about other languages? > > Any takers ...? > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > To j_janam : > > > > I took an oath before my departed Guruji long ago that all women in the world all my mothers. I have to observe many other oaths too, as a part of lifelong brahmacharya. Hence, Bhaskar's mother is my mother. I am incapable of abusing anyone. > > > > My mundane father, mother, sister are all dead. Abuses are like barks of dogs on the road which no one cares for. > > > > Some people have special yogas in their kundalis which induces them to abuse monks. These special yogas will punish them ultimately, I do not need to retaliate. If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them. > > > > -VJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Dear Prashant/Vinay/Others, Please stop this thread immediately. I dont want this thread to continue, as this just adds fuel to the fire. If someone crosses their limits, please bring it to the moderators notice, dont fuel it. If someone is found taking the list in different direction than Jyotish, they will be removed without any prior notice. I hope members will keep this in mind. Thanks Narayan (Moderator) vedic astrology , Prashant kumar-Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti wrote: > > Vinay ji > > this is the PINT that we r all striving esp moderators, and thei group owners to see that there is no drft, slight away from JYOTISHYA and with a open mind and approach and time to heal any rulleled feelings did reach out to all, not all made use of the open approach to all > > the episode i had show u of how sri PVN RAO ji responded is the benchmark for all astrologers > > and the reaction that followed it was what must not be done by anyone claiming to be astrologers > > a SLANDEROUS READING WITH A PERVERTED INTENTION O THE HOROSCOPES OF THE 2 quarrelling members then Baskar an Lalit misra used all sub human language to deride one another sadly > > so this must be avoided by all of us and I would like to emulate PVN rao ji but occassionally do get to respond when the owner of my group was also ben dragged into it for no reason and when i respond still they claim am using him, how can defendiong some be so twisted > > > anyway it is good now u too see the point we must not let non astrologer members MORE SO THE TROUBLED MEMBERS WHO COME TO SEEK HELP in their troubles see us as more troubled and run way from here [forums] > the subject and the image of astrologers as a community is at stake > so lets work to protect it and any differencesbe addressed in the personal [private email DOMAIN only > > Prashant > > G B Prashant Kumar > n > ________________________________ > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 > vedic astrology > Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:02:56 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > What non-astrologer members joining here to seek remedies will feel when if they find astrologers " barking " at each other ! Astrologers must control their language. > > -VJ > > ============ ========= ==== === > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Prashant kumar-Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti > > vedic astrology > Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:33:31 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > Vinay ji, > > I hope u see it in the right way no offense is meant by those lines > > it works for both sides > > the barking dog that feels insecure or a barking dog that is basically offnsive > > but the saying barking don't doen't bite is also part of such QUOTES! > > and the enemy or threat within can be interpreted as our own patience, discretion to ignore or respond or remain calm > > if u vist jyotish group u will see the founder of this group Sri P V Narshima rao ji also the creater of Jhora and has many topics based and scriptures based articles, puja vidhis etc in mp4 froms and even lessons in mp3 forms with a vast knowledge base a IIT-Chennai product now in US > > had analysied the chart of Lalit Misra and said after 2016 Lalit could achive a spiritual high level but the gangsters who attack anyone were also not sparing Lalit he gave them back and these gangsters were shocked to see their villan being " projected " as a sait in the making > > he had given a clear RIDER that if Lait curbs his Maritian influences > > which these ppl ignored but took him on in such cheap fashion as u r seeing what u, me r getting now a days from them > > PVN doesn't know astrology he is misusing astrological principles to portray a villian as a saint etc > > when sri PVN has given 2 stage reading > one it s far awat from today and a rider on the Maritian endencies > > did not Valmaki, Purandara dasa, Pundalik Ypgo vemmana, etc not change from a barbaric past and became legends and saints > > if we can't see such a progression in human beings over a time if combinations r there we can't expect to push the clock forward either and above all disbelive what we predict for anyone and astrological principles itself clouded in PREJUDICES? > > IN ALL THESE not once did THE GREAT SAINT p v nRARSHIMA RAO JI RETALIATE, ABUSE, CURSE, THREATEN HIS CRITICS RATHER WROTE MORE PATIENTLY AS EVER on the objections raised on lalit's readings and quitely left it there -take it or leave it but these ppl went over board > > preceeding it was a bitter exchange betwen them and lalit Misra > > Lalit Misra also did nos spare anyone even I was attacked in this forum from asking him to show restraint on Pt R dakshina murthy ji > > in JR HE DID COME AFTER SOME PROGRESSION WHAT LEVEL we can't say BUT HAD TO LEAVE AGAIN DUE TO SAME MEMBERS HE FELT I WAS BIASED TO THEM AND THEY FELT VICE VERSA > and Nuterality is a v difficult job > > I had pleaded like in ur case allow them to work in peace if they r good public will accept them, else reject them why assume the role of judges. > > best wishes > > Prashant > > G B Prashant Kumar > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > vedic astrology > Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:00:57 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > The enemy is never the one outside but the one inside! Teachers and " Gurus " should really inculcate that in their disciples! > > RR > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > My previous statement " If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them " is a general statement of my principle and not targeted as an abuse against any individual. It sould not be meant to imply that those who abuse me are dogs. They are human beings, although misguided. > > > > There are many Bhaskars and I do not abuse anyone. > > > > > > Rohiniranjan Ji has tried to drive home the point that barkers are " ptotecting " themselves against some perceived threat, but I fail to understand what threats I posed to anyone. > > > > -VJ > > ============ ====== === > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:27:23 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Ban Mr. Vinay Jha > > > > > > > > > > > > Je dois essayi encore! > > > > BARK = Protects a dog through active act of protection against threats > > > > BARK = Protects a tree (older the better) against vermin! > > > > BOTH protect the living organism (dog and tree) against any bites! > > > > It works smoothly and well in english but what about other languages? > > > > Any takers ...? > > > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > To j_janam : > > > > > > I took an oath before my departed Guruji long ago that all women in the world all my mothers. I have to observe many other oaths too, as a part of lifelong brahmacharya. Hence, Bhaskar's mother is my mother. I am incapable of abusing anyone. > > > > > > My mundane father, mother, sister are all dead. Abuses are like barks of dogs on the road which no one cares for. > > > > > > Some people have special yogas in their kundalis which induces them to abuse monks. These special yogas will punish them ultimately, I do not need to retaliate. If dogs bark at me, I do not need to become a dog to bark at them. > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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