Fw: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: RASHIS IN THE VEDAS --- FACT OR FICTION!

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Jai Hindu Jai Hindu-VEDA

Bharat Mata Ki Jai

 

I know wolf will come out from sheeps clothing automatically and will whine on

this post with his rocket laucher and hand grenades but my mother, Bharat Mata,

has given me country made GREEN bamboo stick to handle those hardened Talibani

Fascist terrorists.

 

So one side their bums and other side my coutry made stick given by OUR MATA, ie

Bharat Mata!!!

 

Those terorrists are very dangerous so i will have to raise one slogan of our

Hindu-God

 

HER HER MAHADEV

 

Please dont skip my mail to read....

 

--- On Fri, 29/5/09, Prashant Pandey <praspandey wrote:

Prashant Pandey <praspandey

[HinduCalendar] Re: Fwd: RASHIS IN THE VEDAS --- FACT OR FICTION!

HinduCalendar

Friday, 29 May, 2009, 1:20 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha....

 

I have also read something about this Veteran Fake Vedic Scholar.

 

Who himself has not read VEDAS and old Hindu Purans (older than 15-16 BC) and

claiming all things from rooftop.

 

One interesting perspective from his research, he says Rashis are there in

Vedas(Though those are not there and till now he is unable to provide even a

single Verse from there how he can,, because VEDAS are like HEBREW for him, he

he he he).

 

After claiming it when his research went on for some more heights, he got the

point that Rashi are basically work of Greeks than he changed his color and

started saying that We HINDUS should remain united because ppl are claiming that

Zodiac culture is of Greeks. So our culture is being threatened by other

culture's influence.

 

This is the height of his work.

He He He He....

 

But this Veteran Scholar doesn’t know one thing Rashi's are not our

creation and no work older than 15-16 BC shows this thing ie about Rashis and

Constellation. In VEDAS there is no work of constellation and Rashis. If Rashis

are not our culture than how we Hindus should be threatened by other culture's

influence on our culture.

 

He He He He....

 

Anyway now he is old man so don’t want to open his farcical works, even

though it is not our work to verify his work, other VETERAN Vedic scholar like

him will raise his Gun against him and will say, Mr.. Vartak’s works are

wrong and my works are correct.

 

He He He He.....

 

Regs,

Prashant Pandey

 

Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, " Avtar Krishen

Kaul " <jyotirved@> wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> Namaskar!

> Here is a self-eloquent copy of #No.1294 dt. 14-10-06 on WAVVES-VEDIC forum.

> Regards,

> AKK

> WAVES-Vedic, " jyotirved " <jyotirved@> wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> Namaste!

>

> The following " News item " in the Astrological Magazine of October 2006, page

904, should be of interest to all of us:

>

>

>

> " Dr. P. V. Vartak, researcher in the ancient Indian sciences, was

> felicitated on June 3, 2006, by Mr. Chandrakant Shewale under the auspices

> of Veda Vigyan Mandal, Pune, for his discovery of the Rashis in the Rig

> Veda " .

>

>

>

> A similar " news " had appeared in the 'Express Star Teller' of September

> 2006, page 12:

>

> " Dr. P. V. Vartak is the founder/President of the Veda Vidnyana Mandal,

> Pune. According to Dr. Vartak, all the twelve Rasis are recorded in the

> Rigveda, the oldest literature of the world. The Rigveda also mentions

> twelve 'Figures' in the sky and twelve spokes of a wheel of time. The names

> given by the Rigveda to the signs of the Zodiac are descriptive. It

> mentions Mesha, (Aries), Vrushabha (Taurus), Mithuna, Simha (Leo), Kanya

> (Virgo), Vrischika (Scorpio), Dhanus (Sagittarius) , Kalasha (Aquarius). For

> the Pisces or Meena, the Rigveda uses the name 'Shyena' i.e. falcon, the

> fastest bird. Dr. Vartak states that in the sky, in the region of Pisces,

> we do see a figure made up of stars resembling the figure of a falcon. It

> is now called as 'Phoenix'. Rigveda says that the Shyena has only one wing,

> and in fact, we see only one wing to that falcon. Tula (Libra) is called by

> the name 'Anas-Ratha' , because we can see a pentagon as a cart (Ratha) and a

> triangular figure, representing its harness (Anas). It is presently called

> as " Boootes', Vrischika is also called as Kumbhaka (which pricks or stings)

> or Ibha an elephant. The tail of the celestial scorpion also looks like a

> trunk of elephant. Valmiki in his Ramayana calls this as 'Airawata', the

> elephant of Lord Indra. It is described to be the eighth Sign of zodiac,

> which shows that just like today, Mesha was held as the beginning sign at

> the Vernal Equinox and its period was 25740 years BC.

>

> Dr. Vartak admits that he has not found (sic!)the Karka (Cander) and the

> Makara (Capricorn) However, he says that when other ten names are already

> noted and the total number is found to be twelve, these two signs must be

> present in the Rigveda under some other names. Other researchers should try

> hard to find them out. "

>

>

>

> End of news items!

>

> *** ***** ***** ***** ****

> ***** **** *****

>

>

>

> It is high time that we ask the Swedish Academy to start a " Nobel Prize for

> Vedic Jyotish " and " recommend " the names of such " researchers " and

> " scholars " for the same because, after all, though our " Vedic jyotishis "

> have been practising " Vedic Rashi " based " Vedic jyotish " ever since the

> Greek invasion on India (i.e. about 4th century BCE), obviously, they must

> have been doing so in anticipation of this " discovery " by the " modern Vedic

> Seers " like Dr. Vartak! It is something like the English translator of

> Parashari saying that Brihat Parashari yields best results as per Lahiri

> Ayanamsha, which means Parashara Rishi must have recommended Lahiri

> Ayanamsha more than five thousand years back in anticipation of the birth of

> " almighty Lahiri " ! Thus it is only now that our " modern Vedic Rishis " are

> discovering " Mesha etc. Rashis " in the Vedas, which should also mean that

> since as per the Vedas, the whole universe is " Maya " that is why even

> " Vedic Jyotishis " had been practising such a " Maya " of " Vedic Jyotish " sans

> Vedic Rashis just by dint of their " Maya " !

>

> Why worry about the two " missing Rashis " -- after all it is just like

> turning fiction into facts, and having been " inspired " by Dr. Vartak, some

> other " modern Vedic Rishi " will stake his claim to having " discovered "

> those two Rashis also with his (or will it be her?) Tapasya!

>

> With regards,

>

> Avtar Krishen Kaul

>

> --- End forwarded message ---

>

 

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Dear Parshant (Ashant)Pandey Ji,

 

Namashkaar,

 

I enjoyed your rants.

 

However, have not you found name of months in entire Vedas? The moment there is

month, there is concept of Rasi imbeded in it. Now it is different what is your

pointer to the sky. Whether it is Sun or the Moon. Months will have that shape.

If Vedic people could go minute enough to divide a group of constellation, it is

imbecile and illogical to presume they could not divide the zodiac bases on

either the Sun on Moon's movements. Did they simply farted at the Sun and the

Moon!! Poor vedic people....

 

Do not give such childish arguments.

 

Thanks and Regards.

 

 

vedic astrology , Astrolearner Brazil

<astrolearner_brazil wrote:

>

> Jai Hindu Jai Hindu-VEDA

> Bharat Mata Ki Jai

>  

> I know wolf will come out from sheeps clothing automatically and will whine on

this post with his rocket laucher and hand grenades but my mother, Bharat Mata,

has given me country made GREEN bamboo stick to handle those hardened Talibani

Fascist terrorists.

>  

> So one side their bums and other side my coutry made stick given by OUR MATA,

ie Bharat Mata!!!

>  

> Those terorrists are very dangerous so i will have to raise one slogan of our

Hindu-God

>  

> HER HER MAHADEV

>  

> Please dont skip my mail to read....

>  

> --- On Fri, 29/5/09, Prashant Pandey <praspandey wrote:

> Prashant Pandey <praspandey

> [HinduCalendar] Re: Fwd: RASHIS IN THE VEDAS --- FACT OR FICTION!

> HinduCalendar

> Friday, 29 May, 2009, 1:20 PM

>

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha....

>

> I have also read something about this Veteran Fake Vedic Scholar.

>

> Who himself has not read VEDAS and old Hindu Purans (older than 15-16 BC) and

claiming all things from rooftop.

>

> One interesting perspective from his research, he says Rashis are there in

Vedas(Though those are not there and till now he is unable to provide even a

single Verse from there how he can,, because VEDAS are like HEBREW for him, he

he he he).

>

> After claiming it when his research went on for some more heights, he got the

point that Rashi are basically work of Greeks than he changed his color and

started saying that We HINDUS should remain united because ppl are claiming that

Zodiac culture is of Greeks. So our culture is being threatened by other

culture's influence.

>

> This is the height of his work.

> He He He He....

>

> But this Veteran Scholar doesn’t know one thing Rashi's are not our

creation and no work older than 15-16 BC shows this thing ie about Rashis and

Constellation. In VEDAS there is no work of constellation and Rashis. If Rashis

are not our culture than how we Hindus should be threatened by other culture's

influence on our culture.

>

> He He He He....

>

> Anyway now he is old man so don’t want to open his farcical works, even

though it is not our work to verify his work, other VETERAN Vedic scholar like

him will raise his Gun against him and will say, Mr.. Vartak’s works are

wrong and my works are correct.

>

> He He He He.....

>

> Regs,

> Prashant Pandey

>

> Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, " Avtar Krishen

Kaul " <jyotirved@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> > Namaskar!

> > Here is a self-eloquent copy of #No.1294 dt. 14-10-06 on WAVVES-VEDIC forum.

> > Regards,

> > AKK

> > WAVES-Vedic, " jyotirved " <jyotirved@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > Namaste!

> >

> > The following " News item " in the Astrological Magazine of October 2006, page

904, should be of interest to all of us:

> >

> >

> >

> > " Dr. P. V. Vartak, researcher in the ancient Indian sciences, was

> > felicitated on June 3, 2006, by Mr. Chandrakant Shewale under the auspices

> > of Veda Vigyan Mandal, Pune, for his discovery of the Rashis in the Rig

> > Veda " .

> >

> >

> >

> > A similar " news " had appeared in the 'Express Star Teller' of September

> > 2006, page 12:

> >

> > " Dr. P. V. Vartak is the founder/President of the Veda Vidnyana Mandal,

> > Pune. According to Dr. Vartak, all the twelve Rasis are recorded in the

> > Rigveda, the oldest literature of the world. The Rigveda also mentions

> > twelve 'Figures' in the sky and twelve spokes of a wheel of time. The names

> > given by the Rigveda to the signs of the Zodiac are descriptive. It

> > mentions Mesha, (Aries), Vrushabha (Taurus), Mithuna, Simha (Leo), Kanya

> > (Virgo), Vrischika (Scorpio), Dhanus (Sagittarius) , Kalasha (Aquarius). For

> > the Pisces or Meena, the Rigveda uses the name 'Shyena' i.e. falcon, the

> > fastest bird. Dr. Vartak states that in the sky, in the region of Pisces,

> > we do see a figure made up of stars resembling the figure of a falcon. It

> > is now called as 'Phoenix'. Rigveda says that the Shyena has only one wing,

> > and in fact, we see only one wing to that falcon. Tula (Libra) is called by

> > the name 'Anas-Ratha' , because we can see a pentagon as a cart (Ratha) and

a

> > triangular figure, representing its harness (Anas). It is presently called

> > as " Boootes', Vrischika is also called as Kumbhaka (which pricks or stings)

> > or Ibha an elephant. The tail of the celestial scorpion also looks like a

> > trunk of elephant. Valmiki in his Ramayana calls this as 'Airawata', the

> > elephant of Lord Indra. It is described to be the eighth Sign of zodiac,

> > which shows that just like today, Mesha was held as the beginning sign at

> > the Vernal Equinox and its period was 25740 years BC.

> >

> > Dr. Vartak admits that he has not found (sic!)the Karka (Cander) and the

> > Makara (Capricorn) However, he says that when other ten names are already

> > noted and the total number is found to be twelve, these two signs must be

> > present in the Rigveda under some other names. Other researchers should try

> > hard to find them out. "

> >

> >

> >

> > End of news items!

> >

> > *** ***** ***** ***** ****

> > ***** **** *****

> >

> >

> >

> > It is high time that we ask the Swedish Academy to start a " Nobel Prize for

> > Vedic Jyotish " and " recommend " the names of such " researchers " and

> > " scholars " for the same because, after all, though our " Vedic jyotishis "

> > have been practising " Vedic Rashi " based " Vedic jyotish " ever since the

> > Greek invasion on India (i.e. about 4th century BCE), obviously, they must

> > have been doing so in anticipation of this " discovery " by the " modern Vedic

> > Seers " like Dr. Vartak! It is something like the English translator of

> > Parashari saying that Brihat Parashari yields best results as per Lahiri

> > Ayanamsha, which means Parashara Rishi must have recommended Lahiri

> > Ayanamsha more than five thousand years back in anticipation of the birth of

> > " almighty Lahiri " ! Thus it is only now that our " modern Vedic Rishis " are

> > discovering " Mesha etc. Rashis " in the Vedas, which should also mean that

> > since as per the Vedas, the whole universe is " Maya " that is why even

> > " Vedic Jyotishis " had been practising such a " Maya " of " Vedic Jyotish " sans

> > Vedic Rashis just by dint of their " Maya " !

> >

> > Why worry about the two " missing Rashis " -- after all it is just like

> > turning fiction into facts, and having been " inspired " by Dr. Vartak, some

> > other " modern Vedic Rishi " will stake his claim to having " discovered "

> > those two Rashis also with his (or will it be her?) Tapasya!

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Avtar Krishen Kaul

> >

> > --- End forwarded message ---

> >

>

> --- End forwarded message ---

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ASHOBHANA,

 

< The moment there is month, there is concept of Rasi imbeded in it.>

 

But what types of Rashis Tropical or Sidereal,, have you considered the Third

motion of earth ie Precession.

 

< If Vedic people could go minute enough to divide a group of constellation, it

is imbecile and illogical to presume they could not divide the zodiac bases on

either the Sun on Moon's movements. >

 

Why there was need for them to go in this way when they were already aware of

the seasons or you can say Solstices and equinoxes, if they would have gone like

you are suggesting than they would have digged well upon them and they would

have not appreciated.You know only 4 cardinal points can calculate ages.But they

had the mind so they talked about equinoxes ad solstices and seasons with some

stars behind those exact points(and after ascertaining those points ie any one

star than they considered the repective positions of Sun and Moon) not like that

about which you are talking ie constellation.You know because of same concept

our Vedic Rishis are the most intelligent person as they had cracked the most

important point.

 

< it is imbecile and illogical to presume they could not divide the zodiac bases

on either the Sun on Moon's movements. >

 

Now after reading above lines please find who is imbecille, our ancestors or dot

dot dot....

 

< Do not give such childish arguments. >

 

Your this argument is also self explainatory from my above lines that who is

childish....

 

Thanks

 

vedic astrology , " Shobhana " <shobhana_ms wrote:

>

> Dear Parshant (Ashant)Pandey Ji,

>

> Namashkaar,

>

> I enjoyed your rants.

>

> However, have not you found name of months in entire Vedas? The moment there

is month, there is concept of Rasi imbeded in it. Now it is different what is

your pointer to the sky. Whether it is Sun or the Moon. Months will have that

shape. If Vedic people could go minute enough to divide a group of

constellation, it is imbecile and illogical to presume they could not divide the

zodiac bases on either the Sun on Moon's movements. Did they simply farted at

the Sun and the Moon!! Poor vedic people....

>

> Do not give such childish arguments.

>

> Thanks and Regards.

>

>

> vedic astrology , Astrolearner Brazil

<astrolearner_brazil@> wrote:

> >

> > Jai Hindu Jai Hindu-VEDA

> > Bharat Mata Ki Jai

> >  

> > I know wolf will come out from sheeps clothing automatically and will whine

on this post with his rocket laucher and hand grenades but my mother, Bharat

Mata, has given me country made GREEN bamboo stick to handle those hardened

Talibani Fascist terrorists.

> >  

> > So one side their bums and other side my coutry made stick given by OUR

MATA, ie Bharat Mata!!!

> >  

> > Those terorrists are very dangerous so i will have to raise one slogan of

our Hindu-God

> >  

> > HER HER MAHADEV

> >  

> > Please dont skip my mail to read....

> >  

> > --- On Fri, 29/5/09, Prashant Pandey <praspandey@> wrote:

> > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@>

> > [HinduCalendar] Re: Fwd: RASHIS IN THE VEDAS --- FACT OR FICTION!

> > HinduCalendar

> > Friday, 29 May, 2009, 1:20 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha....

> >

> > I have also read something about this Veteran Fake Vedic Scholar.

> >

> > Who himself has not read VEDAS and old Hindu Purans (older than 15-16 BC)

and claiming all things from rooftop.

> >

> > One interesting perspective from his research, he says Rashis are there in

Vedas(Though those are not there and till now he is unable to provide even a

single Verse from there how he can,, because VEDAS are like HEBREW for him, he

he he he).

> >

> > After claiming it when his research went on for some more heights, he got

the point that Rashi are basically work of Greeks than he changed his color and

started saying that We HINDUS should remain united because ppl are claiming that

Zodiac culture is of Greeks. So our culture is being threatened by other

culture's influence.

> >

> > This is the height of his work.

> > He He He He....

> >

> > But this Veteran Scholar doesn’t know one thing Rashi's are not our

creation and no work older than 15-16 BC shows this thing ie about Rashis and

Constellation. In VEDAS there is no work of constellation and Rashis. If Rashis

are not our culture than how we Hindus should be threatened by other culture's

influence on our culture.

> >

> > He He He He....

> >

> > Anyway now he is old man so don’t want to open his farcical works,

even though it is not our work to verify his work, other VETERAN Vedic scholar

like him will raise his Gun against him and will say, Mr.. Vartak’s works

are wrong and my works are correct.

> >

> > He He He He.....

> >

> > Regs,

> > Prashant Pandey

> >

> > Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, " Avtar

Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > Namaskar!

> > > Here is a self-eloquent copy of #No.1294 dt. 14-10-06 on WAVVES-VEDIC

forum.

> > > Regards,

> > > AKK

> > > WAVES-Vedic, " jyotirved " <jyotirved@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > Namaste!

> > >

> > > The following " News item " in the Astrological Magazine of October 2006,

page 904, should be of interest to all of us:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Dr. P. V. Vartak, researcher in the ancient Indian sciences, was

> > > felicitated on June 3, 2006, by Mr. Chandrakant Shewale under the auspices

> > > of Veda Vigyan Mandal, Pune, for his discovery of the Rashis in the Rig

> > > Veda " .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > A similar " news " had appeared in the 'Express Star Teller' of September

> > > 2006, page 12:

> > >

> > > " Dr. P. V. Vartak is the founder/President of the Veda Vidnyana Mandal,

> > > Pune. According to Dr. Vartak, all the twelve Rasis are recorded in the

> > > Rigveda, the oldest literature of the world. The Rigveda also mentions

> > > twelve 'Figures' in the sky and twelve spokes of a wheel of time. The

names

> > > given by the Rigveda to the signs of the Zodiac are descriptive. It

> > > mentions Mesha, (Aries), Vrushabha (Taurus), Mithuna, Simha (Leo), Kanya

> > > (Virgo), Vrischika (Scorpio), Dhanus (Sagittarius) , Kalasha (Aquarius).

For

> > > the Pisces or Meena, the Rigveda uses the name 'Shyena' i.e. falcon, the

> > > fastest bird. Dr. Vartak states that in the sky, in the region of Pisces,

> > > we do see a figure made up of stars resembling the figure of a falcon. It

> > > is now called as 'Phoenix'. Rigveda says that the Shyena has only one

wing,

> > > and in fact, we see only one wing to that falcon. Tula (Libra) is called

by

> > > the name 'Anas-Ratha' , because we can see a pentagon as a cart (Ratha)

and a

> > > triangular figure, representing its harness (Anas). It is presently called

> > > as " Boootes', Vrischika is also called as Kumbhaka (which pricks or

stings)

> > > or Ibha an elephant. The tail of the celestial scorpion also looks like a

> > > trunk of elephant. Valmiki in his Ramayana calls this as 'Airawata', the

> > > elephant of Lord Indra. It is described to be the eighth Sign of zodiac,

> > > which shows that just like today, Mesha was held as the beginning sign at

> > > the Vernal Equinox and its period was 25740 years BC.

> > >

> > > Dr. Vartak admits that he has not found (sic!)the Karka (Cander) and the

> > > Makara (Capricorn) However, he says that when other ten names are already

> > > noted and the total number is found to be twelve, these two signs must be

> > > present in the Rigveda under some other names. Other researchers should

try

> > > hard to find them out. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > End of news items!

> > >

> > > *** ***** ***** ***** ****

> > > ***** **** *****

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > It is high time that we ask the Swedish Academy to start a " Nobel Prize

for

> > > Vedic Jyotish " and " recommend " the names of such " researchers " and

> > > " scholars " for the same because, after all, though our " Vedic jyotishis "

> > > have been practising " Vedic Rashi " based " Vedic jyotish " ever since the

> > > Greek invasion on India (i.e. about 4th century BCE), obviously, they must

> > > have been doing so in anticipation of this " discovery " by the " modern

Vedic

> > > Seers " like Dr. Vartak! It is something like the English translator of

> > > Parashari saying that Brihat Parashari yields best results as per Lahiri

> > > Ayanamsha, which means Parashara Rishi must have recommended Lahiri

> > > Ayanamsha more than five thousand years back in anticipation of the birth

of

> > > " almighty Lahiri " ! Thus it is only now that our " modern Vedic Rishis " are

> > > discovering " Mesha etc. Rashis " in the Vedas, which should also mean that

> > > since as per the Vedas, the whole universe is " Maya " that is why even

> > > " Vedic Jyotishis " had been practising such a " Maya " of " Vedic Jyotish "

sans

> > > Vedic Rashis just by dint of their " Maya " !

> > >

> > > Why worry about the two " missing Rashis " -- after all it is just like

> > > turning fiction into facts, and having been " inspired " by Dr. Vartak, some

> > > other " modern Vedic Rishi " will stake his claim to having " discovered "

> > > those two Rashis also with his (or will it be her?) Tapasya!

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Avtar Krishen Kaul

> > >

> > > --- End forwarded message ---

> > >

> >

> > --- End forwarded message ---

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter

http://beta.cricket.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Read my rants in this mail which i have replied you but without applying chidish

mind.

 

He He He He He....

 

Thank you very much!!!!

 

vedic astrology , " astrolearner_brazil "

<astrolearner_brazil wrote:

>

> Dear ASHOBHANA,

>

> < The moment there is month, there is concept of Rasi imbeded in it.>

>

> But what types of Rashis Tropical or Sidereal,, have you considered the Third

motion of earth ie Precession.

>

> < If Vedic people could go minute enough to divide a group of constellation,

it is imbecile and illogical to presume they could not divide the zodiac bases

on either the Sun on Moon's movements. >

>

> Why there was need for them to go in this way when they were already aware of

the seasons or you can say Solstices and equinoxes, if they would have gone like

you are suggesting than they would have digged well upon them and they would

have not appreciated.You know only 4 cardinal points can calculate ages.But they

had the mind so they talked about equinoxes ad solstices and seasons with some

stars behind those exact points(and after ascertaining those points ie any one

star than they considered the repective positions of Sun and Moon) not like that

about which you are talking ie constellation.You know because of same concept

our Vedic Rishis are the most intelligent person as they had cracked the most

important point.

>

> < it is imbecile and illogical to presume they could not divide the zodiac

bases on either the Sun on Moon's movements. >

>

> Now after reading above lines please find who is imbecille, our ancestors or

dot dot dot....

>

> < Do not give such childish arguments. >

>

> Your this argument is also self explainatory from my above lines that who is

childish....

>

> Thanks

>

> vedic astrology , " Shobhana " <shobhana_ms@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Parshant (Ashant)Pandey Ji,

> >

> > Namashkaar,

> >

> > I enjoyed your rants.

> >

> > However, have not you found name of months in entire Vedas? The moment there

is month, there is concept of Rasi imbeded in it. Now it is different what is

your pointer to the sky. Whether it is Sun or the Moon. Months will have that

shape. If Vedic people could go minute enough to divide a group of

constellation, it is imbecile and illogical to presume they could not divide the

zodiac bases on either the Sun on Moon's movements. Did they simply farted at

the Sun and the Moon!! Poor vedic people....

> >

> > Do not give such childish arguments.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards.

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , Astrolearner Brazil

<astrolearner_brazil@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Jai Hindu Jai Hindu-VEDA

> > > Bharat Mata Ki Jai

> > >  

> > > I know wolf will come out from sheeps clothing automatically and will

whine on this post with his rocket laucher and hand grenades but my mother,

Bharat Mata, has given me country made GREEN bamboo stick to handle those

hardened Talibani Fascist terrorists.

> > >  

> > > So one side their bums and other side my coutry made stick given by OUR

MATA, ie Bharat Mata!!!

> > >  

> > > Those terorrists are very dangerous so i will have to raise one slogan of

our Hindu-God

> > >  

> > > HER HER MAHADEV

> > >  

> > > Please dont skip my mail to read....

> > >  

> > > --- On Fri, 29/5/09, Prashant Pandey <praspandey@> wrote:

> > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@>

> > > [HinduCalendar] Re: Fwd: RASHIS IN THE VEDAS --- FACT OR FICTION!

> > > HinduCalendar

> > > Friday, 29 May, 2009, 1:20 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha....

> > >

> > > I have also read something about this Veteran Fake Vedic Scholar.

> > >

> > > Who himself has not read VEDAS and old Hindu Purans (older than 15-16 BC)

and claiming all things from rooftop.

> > >

> > > One interesting perspective from his research, he says Rashis are there in

Vedas(Though those are not there and till now he is unable to provide even a

single Verse from there how he can,, because VEDAS are like HEBREW for him, he

he he he).

> > >

> > > After claiming it when his research went on for some more heights, he got

the point that Rashi are basically work of Greeks than he changed his color and

started saying that We HINDUS should remain united because ppl are claiming that

Zodiac culture is of Greeks. So our culture is being threatened by other

culture's influence.

> > >

> > > This is the height of his work.

> > > He He He He....

> > >

> > > But this Veteran Scholar doesn’t know one thing Rashi's are not our

creation and no work older than 15-16 BC shows this thing ie about Rashis and

Constellation. In VEDAS there is no work of constellation and Rashis. If Rashis

are not our culture than how we Hindus should be threatened by other culture's

influence on our culture.

> > >

> > > He He He He....

> > >

> > > Anyway now he is old man so don’t want to open his farcical works,

even though it is not our work to verify his work, other VETERAN Vedic scholar

like him will raise his Gun against him and will say, Mr.. Vartak’s works

are wrong and my works are correct.

> > >

> > > He He He He.....

> > >

> > > Regs,

> > > Prashant Pandey

> > >

> > > Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, " Avtar

Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > Namaskar!

> > > > Here is a self-eloquent copy of #No.1294 dt. 14-10-06 on WAVVES-VEDIC

forum.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > AKK

> > > > WAVES-Vedic, " jyotirved " <jyotirved@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste!

> > > >

> > > > The following " News item " in the Astrological Magazine of October 2006,

page 904, should be of interest to all of us:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Dr. P. V. Vartak, researcher in the ancient Indian sciences, was

> > > > felicitated on June 3, 2006, by Mr. Chandrakant Shewale under the

auspices

> > > > of Veda Vigyan Mandal, Pune, for his discovery of the Rashis in the Rig

> > > > Veda " .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > A similar " news " had appeared in the 'Express Star Teller' of September

> > > > 2006, page 12:

> > > >

> > > > " Dr. P. V. Vartak is the founder/President of the Veda Vidnyana Mandal,

> > > > Pune. According to Dr. Vartak, all the twelve Rasis are recorded in the

> > > > Rigveda, the oldest literature of the world. The Rigveda also mentions

> > > > twelve 'Figures' in the sky and twelve spokes of a wheel of time. The

names

> > > > given by the Rigveda to the signs of the Zodiac are descriptive. It

> > > > mentions Mesha, (Aries), Vrushabha (Taurus), Mithuna, Simha (Leo), Kanya

> > > > (Virgo), Vrischika (Scorpio), Dhanus (Sagittarius) , Kalasha (Aquarius).

For

> > > > the Pisces or Meena, the Rigveda uses the name 'Shyena' i.e. falcon, the

> > > > fastest bird. Dr. Vartak states that in the sky, in the region of

Pisces,

> > > > we do see a figure made up of stars resembling the figure of a falcon.

It

> > > > is now called as 'Phoenix'. Rigveda says that the Shyena has only one

wing,

> > > > and in fact, we see only one wing to that falcon. Tula (Libra) is called

by

> > > > the name 'Anas-Ratha' , because we can see a pentagon as a cart (Ratha)

and a

> > > > triangular figure, representing its harness (Anas). It is presently

called

> > > > as " Boootes', Vrischika is also called as Kumbhaka (which pricks or

stings)

> > > > or Ibha an elephant. The tail of the celestial scorpion also looks like

a

> > > > trunk of elephant. Valmiki in his Ramayana calls this as 'Airawata', the

> > > > elephant of Lord Indra. It is described to be the eighth Sign of zodiac,

> > > > which shows that just like today, Mesha was held as the beginning sign

at

> > > > the Vernal Equinox and its period was 25740 years BC.

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Vartak admits that he has not found (sic!)the Karka (Cander) and the

> > > > Makara (Capricorn) However, he says that when other ten names are

already

> > > > noted and the total number is found to be twelve, these two signs must

be

> > > > present in the Rigveda under some other names. Other researchers should

try

> > > > hard to find them out. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > End of news items!

> > > >

> > > > *** ***** ***** ***** ****

> > > > ***** **** *****

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It is high time that we ask the Swedish Academy to start a " Nobel Prize

for

> > > > Vedic Jyotish " and " recommend " the names of such " researchers " and

> > > > " scholars " for the same because, after all, though our " Vedic jyotishis "

> > > > have been practising " Vedic Rashi " based " Vedic jyotish " ever since the

> > > > Greek invasion on India (i.e. about 4th century BCE), obviously, they

must

> > > > have been doing so in anticipation of this " discovery " by the " modern

Vedic

> > > > Seers " like Dr. Vartak! It is something like the English translator of

> > > > Parashari saying that Brihat Parashari yields best results as per Lahiri

> > > > Ayanamsha, which means Parashara Rishi must have recommended Lahiri

> > > > Ayanamsha more than five thousand years back in anticipation of the

birth of

> > > > " almighty Lahiri " ! Thus it is only now that our " modern Vedic Rishis "

are

> > > > discovering " Mesha etc. Rashis " in the Vedas, which should also mean

that

> > > > since as per the Vedas, the whole universe is " Maya " that is why even

> > > > " Vedic Jyotishis " had been practising such a " Maya " of " Vedic Jyotish "

sans

> > > > Vedic Rashis just by dint of their " Maya " !

> > > >

> > > > Why worry about the two " missing Rashis " -- after all it is just like

> > > > turning fiction into facts, and having been " inspired " by Dr. Vartak,

some

> > > > other " modern Vedic Rishi " will stake his claim to having " discovered "

> > > > those two Rashis also with his (or will it be her?) Tapasya!

> > > >

> > > > With regards,

> > > >

> > > > Avtar Krishen Kaul

> > > >

> > > > --- End forwarded message ---

> > > >

> > >

> > > --- End forwarded message ---

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter

http://beta.cricket.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Smt. Shobhanaji,

Namastay!

I think i have taken your context of saying in the mail in more negative way,

may be at the time of drafting mail,, views would be spiralling in other way in

your mind but i took your mail in some other way so i hit strong volleys....

 

Anyway your views are most welcome

 

I never said that bury astrological sciences and i have never written against

astrology, this science should be kept alive that is all....But i have strayed

from all ways to learn it....Now i am not getting any success in punning any

prediction as i see all planets running infront of my eyes with constellations

positions so its hard to pun stories....I am planning to leave all groups asap

as i am not seeing any ray of hope...some hope is comeing from Nadi astrology

without andy zodiac system but with 12 house system...

 

I only write about truth and want to align Vedic Calendar that is all, i have

never written even a single word against astrology

 

challoooo bbye

 

> > vedic astrology , " Shobhana " <shobhana_ms@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Parshant (Ashant)Pandey Ji,

> > >

> > > Namashkaar,

> > >

> > > I enjoyed your rants.

> > >

> > > However, have not you found name of months in entire Vedas? The moment

there is month, there is concept of Rasi imbeded in it. Now it is different what

is your pointer to the sky. Whether it is Sun or the Moon. Months will have that

shape. If Vedic people could go minute enough to divide a group of

constellation, it is imbecile and illogical to presume they could not divide the

zodiac bases on either the Sun on Moon's movements. Did they simply farted at

the Sun and the Moon!! Poor vedic people....

> > >

> > > Do not give such childish arguments.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards.

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , Astrolearner Brazil

<astrolearner_brazil@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Jai Hindu Jai Hindu-VEDA

> > > > Bharat Mata Ki Jai

> > > >  

> > > > I know wolf will come out from sheeps clothing automatically and will

whine on this post with his rocket laucher and hand grenades but my mother,

Bharat Mata, has given me country made GREEN bamboo stick to handle those

hardened Talibani Fascist terrorists.

> > > >  

> > > > So one side their bums and other side my coutry made stick given by OUR

MATA, ie Bharat Mata!!!

> > > >  

> > > > Those terorrists are very dangerous so i will have to raise one slogan

of our Hindu-God

> > > >  

> > > > HER HER MAHADEV

> > > >  

> > > > Please dont skip my mail to read....

> > > >  

> > > > --- On Fri, 29/5/09, Prashant Pandey <praspandey@> wrote:

> > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@>

> > > > [HinduCalendar] Re: Fwd: RASHIS IN THE VEDAS --- FACT OR

FICTION!

> > > > HinduCalendar

> > > > Friday, 29 May, 2009, 1:20 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha....

> > > >

> > > > I have also read something about this Veteran Fake Vedic Scholar.

> > > >

> > > > Who himself has not read VEDAS and old Hindu Purans (older than 15-16

BC) and claiming all things from rooftop.

> > > >

> > > > One interesting perspective from his research, he says Rashis are there

in Vedas(Though those are not there and till now he is unable to provide even a

single Verse from there how he can,, because VEDAS are like HEBREW for him, he

he he he).

> > > >

> > > > After claiming it when his research went on for some more heights, he

got the point that Rashi are basically work of Greeks than he changed his color

and started saying that We HINDUS should remain united because ppl are claiming

that Zodiac culture is of Greeks. So our culture is being threatened by other

culture's influence.

> > > >

> > > > This is the height of his work.

> > > > He He He He....

> > > >

> > > > But this Veteran Scholar doesn’t know one thing Rashi's are not

our creation and no work older than 15-16 BC shows this thing ie about Rashis

and Constellation. In VEDAS there is no work of constellation and Rashis. If

Rashis are not our culture than how we Hindus should be threatened by other

culture's influence on our culture.

> > > >

> > > > He He He He....

> > > >

> > > > Anyway now he is old man so don’t want to open his farcical

works, even though it is not our work to verify his work, other VETERAN Vedic

scholar like him will raise his Gun against him and will say, Mr..

Vartak’s works are wrong and my works are correct.

> > > >

> > > > He He He He.....

> > > >

> > > > Regs,

> > > > Prashant Pandey

> > > >

> > > > Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, " Avtar

Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > Namaskar!

> > > > > Here is a self-eloquent copy of #No.1294 dt. 14-10-06 on WAVVES-VEDIC

forum.

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > AKK

> > > > > WAVES-Vedic, " jyotirved " <jyotirved@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste!

> > > > >

> > > > > The following " News item " in the Astrological Magazine of October

2006, page 904, should be of interest to all of us:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " Dr. P. V. Vartak, researcher in the ancient Indian sciences, was

> > > > > felicitated on June 3, 2006, by Mr. Chandrakant Shewale under the

auspices

> > > > > of Veda Vigyan Mandal, Pune, for his discovery of the Rashis in the

Rig

> > > > > Veda " .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > A similar " news " had appeared in the 'Express Star Teller' of

September

> > > > > 2006, page 12:

> > > > >

> > > > > " Dr. P. V. Vartak is the founder/President of the Veda Vidnyana

Mandal,

> > > > > Pune. According to Dr. Vartak, all the twelve Rasis are recorded in

the

> > > > > Rigveda, the oldest literature of the world. The Rigveda also mentions

> > > > > twelve 'Figures' in the sky and twelve spokes of a wheel of time. The

names

> > > > > given by the Rigveda to the signs of the Zodiac are descriptive. It

> > > > > mentions Mesha, (Aries), Vrushabha (Taurus), Mithuna, Simha (Leo),

Kanya

> > > > > (Virgo), Vrischika (Scorpio), Dhanus (Sagittarius) , Kalasha

(Aquarius). For

> > > > > the Pisces or Meena, the Rigveda uses the name 'Shyena' i.e. falcon,

the

> > > > > fastest bird. Dr. Vartak states that in the sky, in the region of

Pisces,

> > > > > we do see a figure made up of stars resembling the figure of a falcon.

It

> > > > > is now called as 'Phoenix'. Rigveda says that the Shyena has only one

wing,

> > > > > and in fact, we see only one wing to that falcon. Tula (Libra) is

called by

> > > > > the name 'Anas-Ratha' , because we can see a pentagon as a cart

(Ratha) and a

> > > > > triangular figure, representing its harness (Anas). It is presently

called

> > > > > as " Boootes', Vrischika is also called as Kumbhaka (which pricks or

stings)

> > > > > or Ibha an elephant. The tail of the celestial scorpion also looks

like a

> > > > > trunk of elephant. Valmiki in his Ramayana calls this as 'Airawata',

the

> > > > > elephant of Lord Indra. It is described to be the eighth Sign of

zodiac,

> > > > > which shows that just like today, Mesha was held as the beginning sign

at

> > > > > the Vernal Equinox and its period was 25740 years BC.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. Vartak admits that he has not found (sic!)the Karka (Cander) and

the

> > > > > Makara (Capricorn) However, he says that when other ten names are

already

> > > > > noted and the total number is found to be twelve, these two signs must

be

> > > > > present in the Rigveda under some other names. Other researchers

should try

> > > > > hard to find them out. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > End of news items!

> > > > >

> > > > > *** ***** ***** ***** ****

> > > > > ***** **** *****

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It is high time that we ask the Swedish Academy to start a " Nobel

Prize for

> > > > > Vedic Jyotish " and " recommend " the names of such " researchers " and

> > > > > " scholars " for the same because, after all, though our " Vedic

jyotishis "

> > > > > have been practising " Vedic Rashi " based " Vedic jyotish " ever since

the

> > > > > Greek invasion on India (i.e. about 4th century BCE), obviously, they

must

> > > > > have been doing so in anticipation of this " discovery " by the " modern

Vedic

> > > > > Seers " like Dr. Vartak! It is something like the English translator of

> > > > > Parashari saying that Brihat Parashari yields best results as per

Lahiri

> > > > > Ayanamsha, which means Parashara Rishi must have recommended Lahiri

> > > > > Ayanamsha more than five thousand years back in anticipation of the

birth of

> > > > > " almighty Lahiri " ! Thus it is only now that our " modern Vedic Rishis "

are

> > > > > discovering " Mesha etc. Rashis " in the Vedas, which should also mean

that

> > > > > since as per the Vedas, the whole universe is " Maya " that is why even

> > > > > " Vedic Jyotishis " had been practising such a " Maya " of " Vedic Jyotish "

sans

> > > > > Vedic Rashis just by dint of their " Maya " !

> > > > >

> > > > > Why worry about the two " missing Rashis " -- after all it is just like

> > > > > turning fiction into facts, and having been " inspired " by Dr. Vartak,

some

> > > > > other " modern Vedic Rishi " will stake his claim to having " discovered "

> > > > > those two Rashis also with his (or will it be her?) Tapasya!

> > > > >

> > > > > With regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Avtar Krishen Kaul

> > > > >

> > > > > --- End forwarded message ---

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- End forwarded message ---

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter

http://beta.cricket.

> > > >

> > > >