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To All :

 

The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to Suryasiddhantic

Kundalee software :

 

1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

 

2) Rahu in 2nd,

 

3) Ketu in 8th,

 

4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under highly

malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

 

5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

 

6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too.

 

7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

 

 

8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in its

moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which was

in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

 

Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

 

l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

 

retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

 

h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

 

l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

 

v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

 

a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

 

Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu pierce

it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any chance of

a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in his/her

personal horoscope.

 

Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

 

1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA, mid

April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

 

2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd house

contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery naadi,

while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign with

Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

 

3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained crash

time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th lord

Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with Saturn

and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th

and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

 

I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the same

way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart in

those regions.

 

Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts made

from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

 

Here are some news items scanned through internet :

 

0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

Brazil.

 

0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

 

0214 GMT : last automated message received.

 

 

1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advanced†over

the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

 

1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical fault

from the aircraft.

 

1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by the

plane suffering a lightning strike.

 

1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

 

Here are some names who were onboard ;

 

1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp-Companhia

Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

 

2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

 

3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

 

4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

 

5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and Chief

of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a City in

the South of Brazil)

 

6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

 

7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

 

8.) Deise Possamai

 

9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

 

10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

 

11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

 

12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

 

13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

 

14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

 

15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

 

-Vinay Jha

======================= ======

 

 

________________________________

Sn Ap <paaschatya

vedic astrology

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

[vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

 

 

 

 

 

Respected members,

 

Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air France

AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

 

Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

 

Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

 

 

 

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Adarniya Vinayji,

 

I am very new to astrology.I need some guidance.

I have read books of Sanjay Rathji and Narshimhaji.And i like both of those

giant alot.

I think you are also student (Chela) of both of them and helping them.

Can i take one copy of 'Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software'.Sir i have never

found it on any web-page.

 

Reagrds

 

--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

 

 

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16

Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

vedic astrology

Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:34 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To All :

 

The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to Suryasiddhantic

Kundalee software :

 

1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

 

2) Rahu in 2nd,

 

3) Ketu in 8th,

 

4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under highly

malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

 

5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

 

6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too.

 

7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

 

8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in its

moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which was

in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

 

Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

 

l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

 

retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

 

h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

 

l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

 

v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

 

a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

 

Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu pierce

it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any chance of

a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in his/her

personal horoscope.

 

Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

 

1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA, mid

April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

 

2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd house

contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery naadi,

while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign with

Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

 

3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained crash

time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th lord

Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with Saturn

and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th

and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

 

I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the same

way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart in

those regions.

 

Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts made

from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

 

Here are some news items scanned through internet :

 

0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

Brazil.

 

0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

 

0214 GMT : last automated message received.

 

1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advanced†over

the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

 

1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical fault

from the aircraft.

 

1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by the

plane suffering a lightning strike.

 

1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

 

Here are some names who were onboard ;

 

1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp- Companhia

Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

 

2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

 

3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

 

4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

 

5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and Chief

of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a City in

the South of Brazil)

 

6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

 

7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

 

8.) Deise Possamai

 

9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

 

10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

 

11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

 

12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

 

13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

 

14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

 

15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

 

-Vinay Jha

============ ========= == ======

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Sn Ap <paaschatya >

vedic astrology

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

[vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

 

Respected members,

 

Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air France

AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

 

Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

 

Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

 

 

 

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Raj ji,

 

Both are younger to me. They have done done a great work in popularizing

Jyotisha and have written very good things. I follow traditional mathematical

model in astrology which shows better astrological results (Click_Here & Here

). Private messages should not be posted publicly.

 

-VJ

=================== ====

 

 

________________________________

Raj Rao <raj.rao16

vedic astrology

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 4:30:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

 

 

 

 

 

Adarniya Vinayji,

 

I am very new to astrology.I need some guidance.

I have read books of Sanjay Rathji and Narshimhaji. And i like both of those

giant alot.

I think you are also student (Chela) of both of them and helping them.

Can i take one copy of 'Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software'.Sir i have never

found it on any web-page.

 

Reagrds

 

--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

 

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

vedic astrology

Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:34 AM

 

To All :

 

The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to Suryasiddhantic

Kundalee software :

 

1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

 

2) Rahu in 2nd,

 

3) Ketu in 8th,

 

4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under highly

malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

 

5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

 

6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too.

 

7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

 

8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in its

moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which was

in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

 

Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

 

l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

 

retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

 

h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

 

l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

 

v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

 

a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

 

Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu pierce

it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any chance of

a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in his/her

personal horoscope.

 

Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

 

1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA, mid

April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

 

2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd house

contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery naadi,

while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign with

Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

 

3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained crash

time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th lord

Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with Saturn

and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th

and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

 

I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the same

way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart in

those regions.

 

Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts made

from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

 

Here are some news items scanned through internet :

 

0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

Brazil.

 

0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

 

0214 GMT : last automated message received.

 

1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advanced†over

the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

 

1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical fault

from the aircraft.

 

1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by the

plane suffering a lightning strike.

 

1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

 

Here are some names who were onboard ;

 

1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp- Companhia

Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

 

2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

 

3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

 

4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

 

5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and Chief

of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a City in

the South of Brazil)

 

6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

 

7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

 

8.) Deise Possamai

 

9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

 

10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

 

11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

 

12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

 

13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

 

14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

 

15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

 

-Vinay Jha

============ ========= == ======

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Sn Ap <paaschatya>

vedic astrology

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

[vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

 

Respected members,

 

Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air France

AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

 

Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

 

Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

 

 

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Adarniya Vinayji,

 

Many persons who are older to both of them are students of them.So i thought you

could be Chela of both of them.

 

Both of them also follow traditional model of astrology.How you could be

different to both of them.It means they dont follow traditional model.

 

There is nothing prvate in this message and also in other message which i had

posted.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Raj ji,

>

> Both are younger to me. They have done done a great work in popularizing

Jyotisha and have written very good things. I follow traditional mathematical

model in astrology which shows better astrological results (Click_Here & Here

). Private messages should not be posted publicly.

>

> -VJ

> =================== ====

>

>

> ________________________________

> Raj Rao <raj.rao16

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 4:30:31 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

>

>

>

>

> Adarniya Vinayji,

>

> I am very new to astrology.I need some guidance.

> I have read books of Sanjay Rathji and Narshimhaji. And i like both of those

giant alot.

> I think you are also student (Chela) of both of them and helping them.

> Can i take one copy of 'Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software'.Sir i have never

found it on any web-page.

>

> Reagrds

>

> --- On Tue, 2/6/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

>

> Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:34 AM

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under

highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in

its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which

was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu pierce

it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any chance of

a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in his/her

personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA,

mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd house

contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery naadi,

while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign with

Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained crash

time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th lord

Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with Saturn

and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th

and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the

same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart

in those regions.

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts

made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil.

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advanced†over

the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical fault

from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by the

plane suffering a lightning strike.

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp- Companhia

Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and

Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a

City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= == ======

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Sn Ap <paaschatya>

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> Respected members,

>

> Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air France

AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

>

> Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

>

> Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

>

>

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Raj ji,

 

 

<<< " How you could be different to both of them.It means they dont follow

traditional model. " >>>

 

There are many strands in traditional astrology. PVR is an open minded person,

but you imagine only one line is permissible and all others are wrong. It seems

you want me to leave this forum. You are raising wrong questions. I will not

lose anything by leaving this forum.

 

-VJ

================ ====

 

 

________________________________

raj.rao16 <raj.rao16

vedic astrology

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:20:20 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: AF 447 Tragedy....

 

 

 

 

 

Adarniya Vinayji,

 

Many persons who are older to both of them are students of them.So i thought you

could be Chela of both of them.

 

Both of them also follow traditional model of astrology.How you could be

different to both of them.It means they dont follow traditional model.

 

There is nothing prvate in this message and also in other message which i had

posted.

 

Thanks

 

vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

>

> Raj ji,

>

> Both are younger to me. They have done done a great work in popularizing

Jyotisha and have written very good things. I follow traditional mathematical

model in astrology which shows better astrological results (Click_Here & Here

). Private messages should not be posted publicly.

>

> -VJ

> ============ ======= ====

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Raj Rao <raj.rao16@. ..>

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 4:30:31 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

>

>

>

>

> Adarniya Vinayji,

>

> I am very new to astrology.I need some guidance.

> I have read books of Sanjay Rathji and Narshimhaji. And i like both of those

giant alot.

> I think you are also student (Chela) of both of them and helping them.

> Can i take one copy of 'Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software'.Sir i have never

found it on any web-page.

>

> Reagrds

>

> --- On Tue, 2/6/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

>

> Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:34 AM

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under

highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in

its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which

was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu pierce

it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any chance of

a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in his/her

personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA,

mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd house

contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery naadi,

while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign with

Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained crash

time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th lord

Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with Saturn

and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th

and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the

same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart

in those regions..

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts

made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil.

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advanced†over

the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical fault

from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by the

plane suffering a lightning strike.

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp- Companhia

Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and

Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a

City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9..) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= == ======

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Sn Ap <paaschatya>

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> Respected members,

>

> Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air France

AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

>

> Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

>

> Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

>

>

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Raj Ji,

 

I am sorry to have wasted my time in making a detailed report of aircraft crash

which you are diverting. If you want to create a controversy, start a new topic

for that, but do not destroy this topic which was for discussing aircraft crash,

in which you have no interest and nothing to say. If my method is wrong (which

you do not even know), why you do not post your alternative if you have any,

instead of diverting the topic towards personal controversies?

 

 

-VJ

============== ===

 

 

________________________________

raj.rao16 <raj.rao16

vedic astrology

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:20:20 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: AF 447 Tragedy...

 

 

 

 

 

Adarniya Vinayji,

 

Many persons who are older to both of them are students of them.So i thought you

could be Chela of both of them.

 

Both of them also follow traditional model of astrology.How you could be

different to both of them.It means they dont follow traditional model.

 

There is nothing prvate in this message and also in other message which i had

posted.

 

Thanks

 

vedic astrology@ .. com, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

>

> Raj ji,

>

> Both are younger to me. They have done done a great work in popularizing

Jyotisha and have written very good things. I follow traditional mathematical

model in astrology which shows better astrological results (Click_Here & Here

). Private messages should not be posted publicly.

>

> -VJ

> ============ ======= ====

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Raj Rao <raj.rao16@. ..>

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 4:30:31 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

>

>

>

>

> Adarniya Vinayji,

>

> I am very new to astrology.I need some guidance.

> I have read books of Sanjay Rathji and Narshimhaji.. And i like both of those

giant alot.

> I think you are also student (Chela) of both of them and helping them.

> Can i take one copy of 'Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software'.Sir i have never

found it on any web-page.

>

> Reagrds

>

> --- On Tue, 2/6/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

>

> Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:34 AM

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under

highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in

its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which

was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu pierce

it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any chance of

a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in his/her

personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA,

mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd house

contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery naadi,

while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign with

Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained crash

time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th lord

Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with Saturn

and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th

and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the

same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart

in those regions.

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts

made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil..

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advanced†over

the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical fault

from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by the

plane suffering a lightning strike.

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp- Companhia

Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and

Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a

City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= == ======

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Sn Ap <paaschatya>

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> Respected members,

>

> Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air France

AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

>

> Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

>

> Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

>

>

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Adarniya Vinayji,

 

I need only guidance from learned person so i put questions infront of you about

studentship

 

I already said i need guidance to learn astrology so i have some questions from

your below mail-

 

#1 What thing makes so many strands in astrology and since what time those

strand came into picture

 

#2 Sriman Vinayji i didnt get the meaning of sentence in which you have written

that Narashimha-ji is open minded, has he done any mistake so he should be open

minded

 

Vinayji please dont leave this place otherwise i will loose one guide, and many

questions are reeling in mu mind which i want to be sorted from you

 

 

-vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Raj ji,

>

>

> <<< " How you could be different to both of them.It means they dont follow

traditional model. " >>>

>

> There are many strands in traditional astrology. PVR is an open minded person,

but you imagine only one line is permissible and all others are wrong. It seems

you want me to leave this forum. You are raising wrong questions. I will not

lose anything by leaving this forum.

>

> -VJ

> ================ ====

>

>

> ________________________________

> raj.rao16 <raj.rao16

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:20:20 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: AF 447 Tragedy....

>

>

>

>

>

> Adarniya Vinayji,

>

> Many persons who are older to both of them are students of them.So i thought

you could be Chela of both of them.

>

> Both of them also follow traditional model of astrology.How you could be

different to both of them.It means they dont follow traditional model.

>

> There is nothing prvate in this message and also in other message which i had

posted.

>

> Thanks

>

> vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Raj ji,

> >

> > Both are younger to me. They have done done a great work in popularizing

Jyotisha and have written very good things. I follow traditional mathematical

model in astrology which shows better astrological results (Click_Here & Here

). Private messages should not be posted publicly.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ======= ====

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Raj Rao <raj.rao16@ ..>

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 4:30:31 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Adarniya Vinayji,

> >

> > I am very new to astrology.I need some guidance.

> > I have read books of Sanjay Rathji and Narshimhaji. And i like both of those

giant alot.

> > I think you are also student (Chela) of both of them and helping them.

> > Can i take one copy of 'Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software'.Sir i have never

found it on any web-page.

> >

> > Reagrds

> >

> > --- On Tue, 2/6/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> >

> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> > Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:34 AM

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under

highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in

its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which

was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any

chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in

his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA,

mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery

naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign

with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th

lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with

Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious

12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the

same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart

in those regions..

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts

made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advancedâ€

over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by

the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp-

Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and

Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a

City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9..) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Sn Ap <paaschatya>

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> > [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> >

> > Respected members,

> >

> > Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air

France AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

> >

> > Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

> >

> > Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

> >

> >

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Earliest available texts of Jyotisha talk of 18 siddhantas, Bhrigu Samhitaa and

many other Samhitaas, which have partially or wholly vanished. They studied

Jyotisha from different angles or studied different fields of Jyotisha, and did

not fight among themselves, which proves that the early Vedic-Puranic tradition

was vast in scope but monolithic in vision. Little has survived in our age, and

whatever has survived is mixed with interpolations. It has given rise to diverse

methods in our age which try to unearth and study Vedic astrology in their own

ways. Modern Vedic Astrology (VA) is not as vast as the ancient VA and is not

monolithic. Many non -Vedic items have intruded, which is often difficult to

recognize and prove.

 

Since ancient times, the planets of Jyotisha were believed to be deities. Rishis

did not use observatories and instruments, they got revealed knowledge through

Tapasyaa. It is foolish to imagine that the complicated rules of BPHS could be

invented by any common man through scientific experimentation and observation.

 

Now, times have changed. Almost everyone believes in the material world, which

was Maayaa for our ancestors.

 

Now your second question. PVR is open minded in the sense that he is tolerant of

those methods which differ from his, and is open to experimentation. Why you

imagine PVR or VJ or any mortal is omniscient and foolproof ? We are not Rishis,

but we try to follow the paths laid down by Rishis, as far as our understanding

and capabilities permit us.

 

-VJ

=================== ===

 

 

________________________________

raj.rao16 <raj.rao16

vedic astrology

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:43:17 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: AF 447 Tragedy...

 

 

 

 

 

Adarniya Vinayji,

 

I need only guidance from learned person so i put questions infront of you about

studentship

 

I already said i need guidance to learn astrology so i have some questions from

your below mail-

 

#1 What thing makes so many strands in astrology and since what time those

strand came into picture

 

#2 Sriman Vinayji i didnt get the meaning of sentence in which you have written

that Narashimha-ji is open minded, has he done any mistake so he should be open

minded

 

Vinayji please dont leave this place otherwise i will loose one guide, and many

questions are reeling in mu mind which i want to be sorted from you

 

-vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

>

> Raj ji,

>

>

> <<< " How you could be different to both of them.It means they dont follow

traditional model. " >>>

>

> There are many strands in traditional astrology. PVR is an open minded person,

but you imagine only one line is permissible and all others are wrong. It seems

you want me to leave this forum. You are raising wrong questions. I will not

lose anything by leaving this forum.

>

> -VJ

> ============ ==== ====

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> raj.rao16 <raj.rao16@. ..>

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:20:20 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: AF 447 Tragedy....

>

>

>

>

>

> Adarniya Vinayji,

>

> Many persons who are older to both of them are students of them.So i thought

you could be Chela of both of them.

>

> Both of them also follow traditional model of astrology.How you could be

different to both of them.It means they dont follow traditional model.

>

> There is nothing prvate in this message and also in other message which i had

posted.

>

> Thanks

>

> vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Raj ji,

> >

> > Both are younger to me. They have done done a great work in popularizing

Jyotisha and have written very good things. I follow traditional mathematical

model in astrology which shows better astrological results (Click_Here & Here

). Private messages should not be posted publicly.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ======= ====

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Raj Rao <raj.rao16@ ..>

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 4:30:31 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Adarniya Vinayji,

> >

> > I am very new to astrology.I need some guidance.

> > I have read books of Sanjay Rathji and Narshimhaji. And i like both of those

giant alot.

> > I think you are also student (Chela) of both of them and helping them.

> > Can i take one copy of 'Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software'.Sir i have never

found it on any web-page.

> >

> > Reagrds

> >

> > --- On Tue, 2/6/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> >

> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> > Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:34 AM

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under

highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th.. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too..

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in

its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which

was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any

chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in

his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA,

mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery

naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign

with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th

lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with

Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious

12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the

same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart

in those regions..

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts

made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advancedâ€

over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by

the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp-

Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and

Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a

City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9..) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Sn Ap <paaschatya>

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> > [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> >

> > Respected members,

> >

> > Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air

France AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

> >

> > Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

> >

> > Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

> >

> >

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To All,

 

Details of my method can be seen Here, which is based upon ancient Yaamala

Tantras, BPHS, etc.

 

-VJ

=================== ===

 

 

 

________________________________

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16

vedic astrology

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:04:41 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

 

 

 

 

 

To All :

 

The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to Suryasiddhantic

Kundalee software :

 

1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

 

2) Rahu in 2nd,

 

3) Ketu in 8th,

 

4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under highly

malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

 

5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

 

6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too.

 

7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

 

8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in its

moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which was

in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

 

Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

 

l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

 

retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

 

h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

 

l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

 

v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

 

a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

 

Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu pierce

it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any chance of

a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in his/her

personal horoscope.

 

Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

 

1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA, mid

April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

 

2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd house

contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery naadi,

while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign with

Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

 

3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained crash

time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th lord

Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with Saturn

and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th

and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

 

I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the same

way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart in

those regions.

 

Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts made

from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

 

Here are some news items scanned through internet :

 

0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

Brazil.

 

0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

 

0214 GMT : last automated message received.

 

1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advanced†over

the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

 

1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical fault

from the aircraft.

 

1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by the

plane suffering a lightning strike.

 

1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

 

Here are some names who were onboard ;

 

1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp- Companhia

Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

 

2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

 

3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

 

4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

 

5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and Chief

of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a City in

the South of Brazil)

 

6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

 

7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

 

8.) Deise Possamai

 

9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

 

10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

 

11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

 

12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

 

13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

 

14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

 

15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

 

-Vinay Jha

============ ========= == ======

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Sn Ap <paaschatya >

vedic astrology

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

[vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

 

Respected members,

 

Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air France

AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

 

Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

 

Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

 

 

 

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Adarniya Vinay Ji,

 

In your below mail you have shown houses 2,8,9,10,7,6,3 as killer houses.And all

planets as killer planets.I am very confused with your analysis.I have read that

Ju doesnt take life of a person when it goes to 3 house.I think you are mistaken

in your analysis, pardon me if i am wrong

 

I have seen many person with the same combination are still alive about which

you are talking

 

Sriman Vinay Are Mundane and Jatak astrology same, i am seeing you are applying

same same things here.Please enlighten me if i am wrong as i need guidance

 

Please also let me know why other planes didnt went missing which took off at

same time from parallel run way.Why there was no other Vehicular accident in

Brazil at that time

 

Please enlighten me.I am novice

 

vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> To All,

>

> Details of my method can be seen Here, which is based upon ancient Yaamala

Tantras, BPHS, etc.

>

> -VJ

> =================== ===

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:04:41 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

>

>

>

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under

highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in

its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which

was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu pierce

it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any chance of

a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in his/her

personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA,

mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd house

contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery naadi,

while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign with

Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained crash

time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th lord

Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with Saturn

and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th

and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the

same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart

in those regions.

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts

made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil.

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advanced†over

the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical fault

from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by the

plane suffering a lightning strike.

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp- Companhia

Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and

Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a

City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= == ======

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Sn Ap <paaschatya >

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> Respected members,

>

> Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air France

AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

>

> Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

>

> Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

>

>

>

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Dear Vinay Jha,

I have been looking for a copy of the Gauri Tantra

which is part of Rudrayamala - do you have any idea if there are any

copies available anywhere in the world ?

 

I would really be grateful if you could tell me this.

 

Regards,

 

Shyam

 

 

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 04:11 -0700, Vinay Jha wrote:

>

>

> To All,

>

> Details of my method can be seen Here, which is based upon ancient

> Yaamala Tantras, BPHS, etc.

>

> -VJ

> =================== ===

>

> ________________________________

> Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:04:41 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect

> relation with malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in

> 69% lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th

> house in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly

> malefic Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th

> houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer

> Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and

> ketu pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There

> is hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining

> areas of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house

> and in airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time,

> 3rd house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there

> in watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is

> from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and

> better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had

> to be given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras

> from 5 to 27 for the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which

> contained crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in

> watery naadis, and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd

> house having close relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main

> killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid

> Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars

> was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical

> Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full

> aspect on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted

> but malefic being lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong

> turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp around equator which seems to be crash

> site according to charts as well as reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th

> Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart,

> in the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> Pravesha chart in those regions.

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which

> crash took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil.

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advancedâ€

> over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an

> electrical fault from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been

> caused by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of

> finding survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp-

> Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> of OI Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don

> Pedro II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> Association - Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= == ======

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Sn Ap <paaschatya >

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> Respected members,

>

> Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing

> Air France AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

>

> Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil

> Local Time)

>

> Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

>

>

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Shyam Ji,

 

Rudrayamala Tantra was published by Sampoornanand Sankrit University (Varanasi)

in 1996, in two parts, edited by Dr Ramprasad Tripathi, and can be procured from

its publication dept, whose own bookshop is just outside the campus walls.

 

Who gave you the reference about " Gauri Tantra " in Rudrayamala Tantra ?There is

no chapter titled " Gauri Tantra " in Rudrayamala . There are many chapters with

similar titles like Devi Saadhanam, Kaali Stavana, Kula Devi Poojanam, Kaakini /

Haakini / Shaakini, etc in Rudrayamala Tantra.

 

I am interested only in the astrological portions of Rudrayamala Tantra, which

is voluminous and important.

 

-VJ

============== ===========

 

 

________________________________

Shyam V. Srivatsa <shyam.srivatsa

vedic astrology

Thursday, June 4, 2009 12:21:31 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Vinay Jha,

I have been looking for a copy of the Gauri Tantra

which is part of Rudrayamala - do you have any idea if there are any

copies available anywhere in the world ?

 

I would really be grateful if you could tell me this.

 

Regards,

 

Shyam

 

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 04:11 -0700, Vinay Jha wrote:

>

>

> To All,

>

> Details of my method can be seen Here, which is based upon ancient

> Yaamala Tantras, BPHS, etc.

>

> -VJ

> ============ ======= ===

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:04:41 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect

> relation with malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in

> 69% lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th

> house in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly

> malefic Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th

> houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer

> Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and

> ketu pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There

> is hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining

> areas of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house

> and in airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time,

> 3rd house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there

> in watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is

> from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and

> better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had

> to be given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras

> from 5 to 27 for the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which

> contained crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in

> watery naadis, and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd

> house having close relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main

> killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid

> Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars

> was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical

> Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full

> aspect on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted

> but malefic being lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong

> turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp around equator which seems to be crash

> site according to charts as well as reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th

> Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart,

> in the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> Pravesha chart in those regions.

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which

> crash took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil.

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advancedâ€

> over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an

> electrical fault from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been

> caused by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of

> finding survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp-

> Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> of OI Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don

> Pedro II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> Association - Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= == ======

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Sn Ap <paaschatya>

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> Respected members,

>

> Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing

> Air France AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

>

> Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil

> Local Time)

>

> Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

>

>

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Dear VJ ji,

You refer to the Uttara Khanda of the Rudrayamala- this is not

the complete Rudrayamala. There are references to Gauri Tantra of

Rudrayamala in other texts, which is why I am looking for this.

 

Regards,

 

Shyam

 

On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 01:33 -0700, Vinay Jha wrote:

>

>

> Shyam Ji,

>

> Rudrayamala Tantra was published by Sampoornanand Sankrit University

> (Varanasi) in 1996, in two parts, edited by Dr Ramprasad Tripathi, and

> can be procured from its publication dept, whose own bookshop is just

> outside the campus walls.

>

> Who gave you the reference about " Gauri Tantra " in Rudrayamala

> Tantra ?There is no chapter titled " Gauri Tantra " in Rudrayamala .

> There are many chapters with similar titles like Devi Saadhanam, Kaali

> Stavana, Kula Devi Poojanam, Kaakini / Haakini / Shaakini, etc in

> Rudrayamala Tantra.

>

> I am interested only in the astrological portions of Rudrayamala

> Tantra, which is voluminous and important.

>

> -VJ

> ============== ===========

>

> ________________________________

> Shyam V. Srivatsa <shyam.srivatsa

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, June 4, 2009 12:21:31 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> Dear Vinay Jha,

> I have been looking for a copy of the Gauri Tantra

> which is part of Rudrayamala - do you have any idea if there are any

> copies available anywhere in the world ?

>

> I would really be grateful if you could tell me this.

>

> Regards,

>

> Shyam

>

> On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 04:11 -0700, Vinay Jha wrote:

> >

> >

> > To All,

> >

> > Details of my method can be seen Here, which is based upon ancient

> > Yaamala Tantras, BPHS, etc.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ======= ===

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:04:41 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th.

> 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect

> > relation with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in

> > 69% lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th

> > house in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly

> > malefic Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th

> > houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons

> whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer

> > Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and

> > ketu pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There

> > is hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following

> points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha

> (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining

> > areas of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th

> house

> > and in airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time,

> > 3rd house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there

> > in watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi

> in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of

> moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in

> 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is

> > from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and

> > better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had

> > to be given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future

> Nakshatras

> > from 5 to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which

> > contained crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in

> > watery naadis, and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd

> > house having close relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main

> > killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses.

> Mid

> > Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars

> > was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical

> > Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full

> > aspect on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted

> > but malefic being lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong

> > turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp around equator which seems to be

> crash

> > site according to charts as well as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th

> > Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart,

> > in the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of

> Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which

> > crash took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast

> of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advancedâ€

> > over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an

> > electrical fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been

> > caused by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of

> > finding survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp-

> > Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin

> Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming

> manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don

> > Pedro II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Sn Ap <paaschatya>

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> > [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> >

> > Respected members,

> >

> > Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing

> > Air France AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

> >

> > Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro,

> Brazil

> > Local Time)

> >

> > Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

> >

> >

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Shyam Ji

 

The topic is AF447 crash. You should either start a new topic or discuss with me

in private.

 

I am repeating " Rudrayamala Tantra was published by Sampoornanand Sankrit

University (Varanasi) in 1996, in two parts... "

 

This time, I am emphasizing the words " in two parts " . " Part' means 'Khanda'.

Any doubt ?

 

I also repeat " There is no chapter titled " Gauri Tantra " in Rudrayamala . "

Please read my words carefully.

 

I never said that the terms " Gauri Tantra " were not mentioned in Rudrayamala ; I

said there is no such chapter.

 

This is an astrological forum, and I again repeat " I am interested only in the

astrological portions of Rudrayamala Tantra. "

 

-VJ

=======================

 

________________________________

Shyam V. Srivatsa <shyam.srivatsa

vedic astrology

Thursday, June 4, 2009 5:48:37 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

 

 

 

 

 

Dear VJ ji,

You refer to the Uttara Khanda of the Rudrayamala- this is not

the complete Rudrayamala. There are references to Gauri Tantra of

Rudrayamala in other texts, which is why I am looking for this.

 

Regards,

 

Shyam

 

On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 01:33 -0700, Vinay Jha wrote:

>

>

> Shyam Ji,

>

> Rudrayamala Tantra was published by Sampoornanand Sankrit University

> (Varanasi) in 1996, in two parts, edited by Dr Ramprasad Tripathi, and

> can be procured from its publication dept, whose own bookshop is just

> outside the campus walls.

>

> Who gave you the reference about " Gauri Tantra " in Rudrayamala

> Tantra ?There is no chapter titled " Gauri Tantra " in Rudrayamala .

> There are many chapters with similar titles like Devi Saadhanam, Kaali

> Stavana, Kula Devi Poojanam, Kaakini / Haakini / Shaakini, etc in

> Rudrayamala Tantra.

>

> I am interested only in the astrological portions of Rudrayamala

> Tantra, which is voluminous and important.

>

> -VJ

> ============ == ===========

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Shyam V. Srivatsa <shyam.srivatsa@ runbox.com>

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, June 4, 2009 12:21:31 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> Dear Vinay Jha,

> I have been looking for a copy of the Gauri Tantra

> which is part of Rudrayamala - do you have any idea if there are any

> copies available anywhere in the world ?

>

> I would really be grateful if you could tell me this.

>

> Regards,

>

> Shyam

>

> On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 04:11 -0700, Vinay Jha wrote:

> >

> >

> > To All,

> >

> > Details of my method can be seen Here, which is based upon ancient

> > Yaamala Tantras, BPHS, etc.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ======= ===

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:04:41 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th.

> 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect

> > relation with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in

> > 69% lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th

> > house in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly

> > malefic Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th

> > houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons

> whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer

> > Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and

> > ketu pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There

> > is hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following

> points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha

> (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining

> > areas of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th

> house

> > and in airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time,

> > 3rd house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there

> > in watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi

> in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of

> moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in

> 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is

> > from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and

> > better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had

> > to be given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future

> Nakshatras

> > from 5 to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which

> > contained crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in

> > watery naadis, and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd

> > house having close relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main

> > killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses.

> Mid

> > Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars

> > was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical

> > Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full

> > aspect on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted

> > but malefic being lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong

> > turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp around equator which seems to be

> crash

> > site according to charts as well as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th

> > Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart,

> > in the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of

> Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which

> > crash took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast

> of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advancedâ€

> > over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an

> > electrical fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been

> > caused by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of

> > finding survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp-

> > Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin

> Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming

> manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don

> > Pedro II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Sn Ap <paaschatya>

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> > [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

> >

> > Respected members,

> >

> > Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing

> > Air France AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

> >

> > Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro,

> Brazil

> > Local Time)

> >

> > Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

> >

> >

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Raj Rao Ji,

 

Your comments are baffling :

 

<<< " you have shown houses 2,8,9,10,7,6, 3 as killer houses.And all planets as

killer planets.I am very confused with your analysis.I have read that Ju doesnt

take life of a person when it goes to 3 house.I think you are mistaken in your

analysis. " >>>

 

What is the meaning of " you have shown " ? The software I used is freely

available on internet. I did not manipulate the input data or software's output.

If you prefer any other software, you sould post your own analysis. If lord of

9th and 10th (or any) house is in 6th, 8th or 12th house, 9th or 10th house will

become bad. Read classics of Jyotisha. And if, in addition to that, lord of 2nd

house (Saturn in this case) sits in 10th house, the result will be worse. Your

refutal of my analysis shows either you are rejecting all classics of Vedic

Jyotisha or are ignorant about them. Or do you believe in some secret system of

your own, in which " houses 2,8,9,10,7,6, 3 " should not be shown as killer

houses for highly tragic charts, and fatal tragedies of international importance

ought to occur under auspocious conditions.

 

If Jupiter is Maarakesh, why it will not be a killer (in this case Saturn is the

main killer and Jupiter is under 28' or 47% bhaavesh-drishti control of the main

killer Saturn) ? Have you hear of relation " in Vedic Astrology " ? I do not know

which system of astrology you studied. I am surprized at your statements.

 

<<< " Are Mundane and Jatak astrology same, i am seeing you are applying same

same things here. " >>>

 

I used the charts of solar transits in mundane astrology. These charts are to be

read with same rules which apply to Jaataka. For instance, 8th house is the

Death in Jaataka. It will not become something else in mundane astrology.. You

never found any book which says mundane charts should be analysed according to

different rules. Why, then, you are overtaken with so much suspicions ? What is

the ground of your sucpicions ? If you have some evidence, put them here. If

not, do not doubt unnecessarily.

 

<<< " I have seen many person with the same combination are still alive about

which you are talking " >>>

 

Individuals die due to Aayurdaayu Yogas. Read BPHS. Aircraft take-off chart is

not guided with those Aayurdaayu Yogas. Why you mix up things ?

 

<<< " Please also let me know why other planes didnt went missing which took off

at same time from parallel run way.Why there was no other Vehicular accident in

Brazil at that time

 

You did not read the postings under this thread which have already discussed

this point. I am repeating : there are srtict flight regulation rules, and no

two commercial flights can be allowed to fly from same airport to same

destinagtion at the same time. I analyzed both Brazil and areas around France,

and found fatal conditions for both. I put the result of 18 charts in this

forum, and gave some details of only the aircraft take-off chart, amd some

points from Annual (1) , Nakshatra(4), and half-diurnal charts(12). Do you know

discussing all these 18 charts will run into hundreds of pages which no one will

read ?

 

Please read BPHS, esp its initial chapters, and try to read some good simplified

books, eg, BV Raman's, about interpretation of horoscopes. This analysis is

based on reults of 18 charts, most of which are mundane charts based on little

known techniques of ancient Yaamala Tantra texts which I am trying to bring into

open. AF447 analysis is not for novices (please do not feel offended, Read Late

BV Raman's Books). For instance, you paid no attention to Meru-centric charts

used by me, from centre at

 

http://wikimapia.org/beta/#lat=0 & lon=37.3166667 & z=10 & l=0 & m=b & v=8

 

You will find the peak or Mt Kenya (ancient Mt Meru) at

 

http://wikimapia.org/beta/#lat=-0.1593016 & lon=37.3178101 & z=10 & l=0 & m=b & v=8

 

And a town (provincial headquarter of Kenya) named Meru at

 

http://wikimapia.org/beta/#lat=0.0604248 & lon=37.6487732 & z=10 & l=0 & m=b & v=8

 

And Meru National Park at

http://wikimapia.org/beta/#lat=0.1002502 & lon=38.1582642 & z=10 & l=0 & m=b & v=8 & show=/7\

390978/pl/Meru-National-Park

 

-VJ

======================== ======

 

 

 

 

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 12:18:15 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: AF 447 Tragedy...

 

 

 

 

 

Adarniya Vinay Ji,

 

In your below mail you have shown houses 2,8,9,10,7,6, 3 as killer houses.And

all planets as killer planets.I am very confused with your analysis.I have read

that Ju doesnt take life of a person when it goes to 3 house.I think you are

mistaken in your analysis, pardon me if i am wrong

 

I have seen many person with the same combination are still alive about which

you are talking

 

Sriman Vinay Are Mundane and Jatak astrology same, i am seeing you are applying

same same things here.Please enlighten me if i am wrong as i need guidance

 

Please also let me know why other planes didnt went missing which took off at

same time from parallel run way.Why there was no other Vehicular accident in

Brazil at that time

 

Please enlighten me.I am novice

 

vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ....> wrote:

>

> To All,

>

> Details of my method can be seen Here, which is based upon ancient Yaamala

Tantras, BPHS, etc.

>

> -VJ

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>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:04:41 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy....

>

>

>

>

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being under

highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation with

malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had mutual

aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house in

its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic Venus which

was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose names

begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu pierce

it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is hardly any chance of

a single survival, unless someone has strong longevity combinations in his/her

personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal FPA,

mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter enemy's house, in

watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas of North Atlantic. Rio de

Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd house

contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in watery naadi,

while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in bitter enemical sign with

Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th

house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona. Saturn was lord of 8th and related to

maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th, which made Saturn the main killer. The duration

of 4th Nakshatra is from 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn

and better maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5 to 27 for

the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained crash

time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis, and 6th lord

Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close relation with Saturn

and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of being lord of inauspicious 12th

and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd

maarakesh Mars was in its mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with

enmical Mercury in chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect

on northern part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being

lord of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well as

reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in the

same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha Pravesha chart

in those regions.

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news. Charts

made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a strong turbulence

struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted Venus in airy naadi entered

2nd house of Killer), just after which crash took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil.

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil’s air force says Flight AF 447 was “well advanced†over

the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical fault

from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused by the

plane suffering a lightning strike.

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is “very slimâ€.

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of ThyssenKrupp- Companhia

Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank and

Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto Alegre is a

City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager of OI

Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro II

Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus Association -

Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige - Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

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>

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> Sn Ap <paaschatya>

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:06:33 AM

> [vedic astrology] AF 447 Tragedy...

>

> Respected members,

>

> Can you analyze possibility of survivals in the case of the missing Air France

AF 447 flight? Here are the known details:

>

> Take off Date & Time: 31-May-2009, 1900 hours (Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Local

Time)

>

> Lost contact: 01-June-2009, 0130 hours GMT

>

>

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