Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Very good message Prashant Kumar jee! RR vedic astrology , Prashant kumar-Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti wrote: > > Ramesh, > > > BEFORE I COME TO UR CASE LET ME STET THIS UP FOR U AND IN NEXT REPLY do the othr part. > > if u can ask the same quesion to a doctor > > the same disorder/disease why ANY 2 diff doctors even if classmates, benchmates wth the same sylabus, teachers differed in their prescriptions, diagnosis > > why any 2 or more lawyers difered in their case analysis say why must anyone loose a case after all same law books same courts, same codes as well why? > > will any 2 architects, 2 cops differ in their assesments of any situation come with different approaches > > pl do the survey and get back will surely answer this in greater detail > > Jyotishya is a divine science with no structtured and teaching order and patronage as others have yet contribute a long way insolving many issues OFTEN COMBINING THE ROLES OF A FRIEND, PHILOSOPHER, GUIDE, Counsellor, a therapist, a healher, a pep talk/morale booster a pyschiatrist and a doctor etc and yet get the kind of stuff ppl like u dish out so oten why should we prove to u all we can do or don;t do > > if u can get answers for the above may be we will too > > REMEMBER JYOTISHYA IS A SCIENCE OF HOPE, COUNSELLING a direction finder > > gives u a clue that there is LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, how far/long it takes to get there and start afresh > > when in distress and a emotional bridge between tough and good times without wich expensive treatments, counsellings and even worse situations can come up if we can;t complete it but all these we roll in to one and still... > > Best wishes > > Prashant > > G B Prashant Kumar > > Pl give personal data with verifable life event dates=jobs, marriage, family, kids, high/low times. Picture or 2 for Lagna features check to my ID pkgoteti, Services of this astrologer in the group only are FREE! personal consultations ARE CHARGEABLE! Mobile 09840051861 Chennai, India Me Shuba Vela! > > > > > ________________________________ > ramesh hasija <rameshhasija > vedic astrology > Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:42:53 AM > [vedic astrology] Astrologer's Guru's Negligent- Answers Mr. Prashantji, Pathiji, Narasimhaji etc. > > > > > > Dear Guru's and Astrologers, > > Why does the definition and knowledge of astrology differs from one astrologer to another? Same question about the same person has different answers when the persons horoscope is studied by different astrologers? Is this something that some astroguru's are not enough knowledgable? Its confounding to me since everyone of them studies the same basic concepts of astrology (though it may have different forms) > > Question Asked : Whether the following person should pursue Phd or a MBA degree? Which among these two can be accomplished as per his astro horoscope? Which is more beneficial for his career? > > DOB : 23rd Sept, 1979 > Place : Faridabad, Haryana > TOB : 11:23 PM (23:23) > > I am still trying to understand why the definition of astrology varies. I look forward to answer of the above question from astro guru's and astroexperts from this group and that would give me some more with furrther comparison into the confusion I have. > > Regards, > Ramesh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Dee kumar ji, Well many onvious things r not understood by a few who instead of asking what they want to know and sort out the answers they get from their own eperiences, doubt and cast aspertions even before their questions come in is what prompted me t o put it as firmly as possible, but will reply yp his case asap in case u can alsoit is welcome ________________________________ Dee Kumar <dharmco vedic astrology Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:56:39 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: [va] Astrologer's Guru's Negligent- Answers Mr. Prashantji, Pathiji, Narasimhaji etc. 3/6 Dear G B Prashant Kumar Your observation is True and correct. Human mind differ from each other their common problems and its solutions also differes in each and every case. Dee kumar ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant kumar-Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti > vedic astrology Wednesday, June 3, 2009 7:42:36 AM [vedic astrology] Re: [va] Astrologer's Guru's Negligent- Answers Mr. Prashantji, Pathiji, Narasimhaji etc. 3/6 Ramesh, BEFORE I COME TO UR CASE LET ME STET THIS UP FOR U AND IN NEXT REPLY do the othr part. if u can ask the same quesion to a doctor the same disorder/disease why ANY 2 diff doctors even if classmates, benchmates wth the same sylabus, teachers differed in their prescriptions, diagnosis why any 2 or more lawyers difered in their case analysis say why must anyone loose a case after all same law books same courts, same codes as well why? will any 2 architects, 2 cops differ in their assesments of any situation come with different approaches pl do the survey and get back will surely answer this in greater detail Jyotishya is a divine science with no structtured and teaching order and patronage as others have yet contribute a long way insolving many issues OFTEN COMBINING THE ROLES OF A FRIEND, PHILOSOPHER, GUIDE, Counsellor, a therapist, a healher, a pep talk/morale booster a pyschiatrist and a doctor etc and yet get the kind of stuff ppl like u dish out so oten why should we prove to u all we can do or don;t do if u can get answers for the above may be we will too REMEMBER JYOTISHYA IS A SCIENCE OF HOPE, COUNSELLING a direction finder gives u a clue that there is LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, how far/long it takes to get there and start afresh when in distress and a emotional bridge between tough and good times without wich expensive treatments, counsellings and even worse situations can come up if we can;t complete it but all these we roll in to one and still... Best wishes Prashant G B Prashant Kumar Pl give personal data with verifable life event dates=jobs, marriage, family, kids, high/low times. Picture or 2 for Lagna features check to my ID pkgoteti , Services of this astrologer in the group only are FREE! personal consultations ARE CHARGEABLE! Mobile 09840051861 Chennai, India Me Shuba Vela! ____________ _________ _________ __ ramesh hasija <rameshhasija@ > vedic astrology Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:42:53 AM [vedic astrology] Astrologer's Guru's Negligent- Answers Mr. Prashantji, Pathiji, Narasimhaji etc. Dear Guru's and Astrologers, Why does the definition and knowledge of astrology differs from one astrologer to another? Same question about the same person has different answers when the persons horoscope is studied by different astrologers? Is this something that some astroguru's are not enough knowledgable? Its confounding to me since everyone of them studies the same basic concepts of astrology (though it may have different forms) Question Asked : Whether the following person should pursue Phd or a MBA degree? Which among these two can be accomplished as per his astro horoscope? Which is more beneficial for his career? DOB : 23rd Sept, 1979 Place : Faridabad, Haryana TOB : 11:23 PM (23:23) I am still trying to understand why the definition of astrology varies. I look forward to answer of the above question from astro guru's and astroexperts from this group and that would give me some more with furrther comparison into the confusion I have. Regards, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Dear Mr. Ramesh, I agree with Shree Prashant Kumar and other well known astrologers on their reply to your question. Since mention of my name is in your list referred to, I send my reply as below: Astrology is a very deep and fathomless ocean of a subject and none could claim that they had 'conquered' the frontiers with 'comprehensive' knowledge. From the days of yore, much before 'framing' the 'constitution' of religions - for us 'Vedas' and for others, 'Bible' or 'Kuran' etc, - with multi-faceted pointers directing to 'salvation', Astrology was practiced in various societies with various theories. In centuries, many changes had come, as well as new innovations and introductions to and for basic rules of Astrology. These were added to the 'main frame' with human reasons and events. So, we eventually feel this had expanded in size, concept, interpretations and reasoning. Then an astrologer would be a 'scared' rat to arrive at the right 'path' for any answer to a question. Astrologer must have correct data before him, for finding factors to answer a question. To quote my experience, one told me that she was told by her mother that she was born when the milkman came to her house in the morning of a given date. She added she married twice in three years. With this nothing can be said by an astrologer. Even in the provision of data lot of errors are/could be there. Astrologer is human with an environment. His emotions are subjected to varied circumstances. While it is his profession, he makes all efforts to be 'correct' in his readings within his prowess in the subject. There are many areas an astrologer may not be proficient also. Like a doctor who is good as a orthopaedist, could not be an expert in Oncology. The person who approaches an astrologer, believes, the astrologer knows everything. This is were the error starts to creep in. However, the person studied astrology and is competent to analyze the chart. Perhaps, he could not confirm exactly to the answer demanded by the question. An astrologer writes an answer paper with a chart before him, every time, perhaps every day. He cannot be answering correctly all the time. But his existence depends on that profession. One who approaches an astrologer believes that he can 'solve' all problems with package of remedies. Then he should go directly to God and ask him rather asking an Astrologer!! A remedy recommended by him may not be the exact remedy offered in the original texts. Blessings. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, ________________________________ Prashant kumar-Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti vedic astrology Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:41:27 AM [vedic astrology] [va] Astrologer's Guru's Negligent- Answers Mr. Prashantji, Pathiji, Narasimhaji etc. 3/6 Dee kumar ji, Well many onvious things r not understood by a few who instead of asking what they want to know and sort out the answers they get from their own eperiences, doubt and cast aspertions even before their questions come in is what prompted me t o put it as firmly as possible, but will reply yp his case asap in case u can alsoit is welcome ____________ _________ _________ __ Dee Kumar <dharmco > vedic astrology Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:56:39 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: [va] Astrologer's Guru's Negligent- Answers Mr. Prashantji, Pathiji, Narasimhaji etc. 3/6 Dear G B Prashant Kumar Your observation is True and correct. Human mind differ from each other their common problems and its solutions also differes in each and every case. Dee kumar ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant kumar-Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti > vedic astrology Wednesday, June 3, 2009 7:42:36 AM [vedic astrology] Re: [va] Astrologer's Guru's Negligent- Answers Mr. Prashantji, Pathiji, Narasimhaji etc. 3/6 Ramesh, BEFORE I COME TO UR CASE LET ME STET THIS UP FOR U AND IN NEXT REPLY do the othr part. if u can ask the same quesion to a doctor the same disorder/disease why ANY 2 diff doctors even if classmates, benchmates wth the same sylabus, teachers differed in their prescriptions, diagnosis why any 2 or more lawyers difered in their case analysis say why must anyone loose a case after all same law books same courts, same codes as well why? will any 2 architects, 2 cops differ in their assesments of any situation come with different approaches pl do the survey and get back will surely answer this in greater detail Jyotishya is a divine science with no structtured and teaching order and patronage as others have yet contribute a long way insolving many issues OFTEN COMBINING THE ROLES OF A FRIEND, PHILOSOPHER, GUIDE, Counsellor, a therapist, a healher, a pep talk/morale booster a pyschiatrist and a doctor etc and yet get the kind of stuff ppl like u dish out so oten why should we prove to u all we can do or don;t do if u can get answers for the above may be we will too REMEMBER JYOTISHYA IS A SCIENCE OF HOPE, COUNSELLING a direction finder gives u a clue that there is LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, how far/long it takes to get there and start afresh when in distress and a emotional bridge between tough and good times without wich expensive treatments, counsellings and even worse situations can come up if we can;t complete it but all these we roll in to one and still... Best wishes Prashant G B Prashant Kumar Pl give personal data with verifable life event dates=jobs, marriage, family, kids, high/low times. Picture or 2 for Lagna features check to my ID pkgoteti , Services of this astrologer in the group only are FREE! personal consultations ARE CHARGEABLE! Mobile 09840051861 Chennai, India Me Shuba Vela! ____________ _________ _________ __ ramesh hasija <rameshhasija@ > vedic astrology Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:42:53 AM [vedic astrology] Astrologer's Guru's Negligent- Answers Mr. Prashantji, Pathiji, Narasimhaji etc. Dear Guru's and Astrologers, Why does the definition and knowledge of astrology differs from one astrologer to another? Same question about the same person has different answers when the persons horoscope is studied by different astrologers? Is this something that some astroguru's are not enough knowledgable? Its confounding to me since everyone of them studies the same basic concepts of astrology (though it may have different forms) Question Asked : Whether the following person should pursue Phd or a MBA degree? Which among these two can be accomplished as per his astro horoscope? Which is more beneficial for his career? DOB : 23rd Sept, 1979 Place : Faridabad, Haryana TOB : 11:23 PM (23:23) I am still trying to understand why the definition of astrology varies. I look forward to answer of the above question from astro guru's and astroexperts from this group and that would give me some more with furrther comparison into the confusion I have. Regards, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Dear Mr. Prashantji, I certainly get your point. Thanks for throwing light on this. Probably I may have come across few astroguru's in regards to my question who are not up to the task or do not possess sufficient knowledge or provided very different opinions due to their understanding of astroscience. I look forward to your answer on this question. Thanks, Ramesh --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Prashant kumar-Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti wrote: Prashant kumar-Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti [vedic astrology] Re: [va] Astrologer's Guru's Negligent- Answers Mr. Prashantji, Pathiji, Narasimhaji etc. 3/6 vedic astrology Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 8:12 PM Ramesh, BEFORE I COME TO UR CASE LET ME STET THIS UP FOR U AND IN NEXT REPLY do the othr part. if u can ask the same quesion to a doctor the same disorder/disease why ANY 2 diff doctors even if classmates, benchmates wth the same sylabus, teachers differed in their prescriptions, diagnosis why any 2 or more lawyers difered in their case analysis say why must anyone loose a case after all same law books same courts, same codes as well why? will any 2 architects, 2 cops differ in their assesments of any situation come with different approaches pl do the survey and get back will surely answer this in greater detail Jyotishya is a divine science with no structtured and teaching order and patronage as others have yet contribute a long way insolving many issues OFTEN COMBINING THE ROLES OF A FRIEND, PHILOSOPHER, GUIDE, Counsellor, a therapist, a healher, a pep talk/morale booster a pyschiatrist and a doctor etc and yet get the kind of stuff ppl like u dish out so oten why should we prove to u all we can do or don;t do if u can get answers for the above may be we will too REMEMBER JYOTISHYA IS A SCIENCE OF HOPE, COUNSELLING a direction finder gives u a clue that there is LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, how far/long it takes to get there and start afresh when in distress and a emotional bridge between tough and good times without wich expensive treatments, counsellings and even worse situations can come up if we can;t complete it but all these we roll in to one and still... Best wishes Prashant G B Prashant Kumar Pl give personal data with verifable life event dates=jobs, marriage, family, kids, high/low times. Picture or 2 for Lagna features check to my ID pkgoteti , Services of this astrologer in the group only are FREE! personal consultations ARE CHARGEABLE! Mobile 09840051861 Chennai, India Me Shuba Vela! ____________ _________ _________ __ ramesh hasija <rameshhasija@ > vedic astrology Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:42:53 AM [vedic astrology] Astrologer's Guru's Negligent- Answers Mr. Prashantji, Pathiji, Narasimhaji etc. Dear Guru's and Astrologers, Why does the definition and knowledge of astrology differs from one astrologer to another? Same question about the same person has different answers when the persons horoscope is studied by different astrologers? Is this something that some astroguru's are not enough knowledgable? Its confounding to me since everyone of them studies the same basic concepts of astrology (though it may have different forms) Question Asked : Whether the following person should pursue Phd or a MBA degree? Which among these two can be accomplished as per his astro horoscope? Which is more beneficial for his career? DOB : 23rd Sept, 1979 Place : Faridabad, Haryana TOB : 11:23 PM (23:23) I am still trying to understand why the definition of astrology varies. I look forward to answer of the above question from astro guru's and astroexperts from this group and that would give me some more with furrther comparison into the confusion I have. Regards, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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