The Cat is out of the Bag 20/6

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dear members

 

i have said i am still working in Ramans ayanamsa as the was the case when i

replied to Anupam or anyone before or after this will continue to work in it

 

if someone has even passed some basic schooling must understand

 

 by working it must mean

 

continueing to work -PRESENT TENSE- it can also mean working or fine tuing if

need be

 

what does my signature say always i use ramans [not fine tuing ramans]

 

i also said why i sued that line as these same jerks do say i use it for

convience when i fail i may blame ramans but have i done pl show i have used

only RAMANS ALL MY LIFE AND WILL DO SO AS USED BY RAMANS ONLY

 

 why must anyone tinker with RAMANS AYANAMSA at all surely i am not IN SUCH A

race i respect him and and his work my guru his gurus have used it succesfully

so did his own grandfather, our village astrologers for over 300 yrs used

revathi paksha or raman's ayanamsa so what is this many trying to prove

 

i made a hurried reading to anup just on the interview date alone

 

later withthe feedback corrected myself OEPNLY

APOLOGISED TO HIM

 

HE IS COMFORTABLE WITH IT so what is bhaskars problem

 

only way he can claim superiority is same time as mine let him make a forecast

on the same topic consistantly and prove he is better as he feels I am not even

worth anything he must succed 100 times if i succed 50times the only greatest

astrologer in this world

 

but the groups he is in is flooed with abuses by him of every fellow member if a

clarification is aked he poinces onthem, their parentage

 

pl see JR what he has done to members like ashna singh, roopak rastogi, raj k

singh, sweety [cllaed her dont cr y line meena kumari when she asked for a

clarification as one ansser is free rest he expects a paid one ] in Jyotish

group or even this one we can find him abusing members

 

my work is there here from dec 05 in all my feedbacks to memebers

 

if i succed i thanked them for the same and proving the validity, greatness of

our rishies who lead us and inspire us to this tay without tinkering

mere adaptiing to our times

 

i never gloated over my success

 

i have complimented many good readings by fellow astrologers repeatedly

never critised a astrological reading of anyone. this is the only prerogrative

of bhaskar and his gang who use bioth fake ID's and trojans to malign, destroy

other groups to keep just his group and aAIA look great they never allow their

abused memebrs to reply also one sided show

 

in JR i do carry ciritis of me if need be do carry excerts when i have to

moderate it cover all points raised only reason is not flooed a discussion forum

with their cultural ethos i just want jyotish to remain central in any group

 

best wishes

 

if i faield also I THANKED THEM as it gives me a chance to correct my self

 

 

so if u memebrs of jealous gutter want to use ur OWN  gutter space FOR SUCH

MESAGES U R FREE to just dirt, and gossip and of course some cut and pasted

articles.

 

VA JR have their own strong astrologer members well before i came in and r v

much there

new members too have added value in a peaceful atmosphere i can assure them

without elements troublesome elements like u

who want just r 2 groups to survive.

 

remember by destroing, disturbing other groups even the ones u r in will have to

fall with no support from members who will be disinterested in jyotish forums

itself

 

 not good forums like VA for ur personal agenda- LEAVE THIS GROUP TO REMAIN

JYOTISH CENTRIC

 

G B Prashant Kumar

 

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lion_draco1983 <lion_draco1983

vedic astrology

Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:50:11 AM

[vedic astrology] The Cat is out of the Bag

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: The Cat is out of the Bag

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

So the question to ask back would be:

 

If there is a correct prediction then it is obviously because the Karmas

of the

person enquiring is good enough. If this is true, why should the

astrologer be

paid for his services? After all he is not earning his money. It is only

the

Karma of the person that determines the prediction's accuracy? So all

his

services should be for free. Infact he should refund all the money he

has made

so far predicting for others. Is this not true?

 

Regards,

 

-Manoj

 

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Friday, June 19, 2009 12:12:02 PM

Re: The Cat is out of the Bag

 

Latest Development

The rascal Moderator(CEO) of JR is now trying to explain to the member

whom he

had given wrong predictions that -

" The Karmas of the person enquiring , may not be right enough, so he

gets a

wrong prediction " .

He also said in his last mail that " Ramans ayanamsha had uptil now

given

some right predictions "   which in other words he is trying

ti imply that

since only some of them were right he is now working on the ayanamsha to

make it

better.

Ask this rascal what is the meaning of " ayanamsha " and he would not be

able to

answer you right, and he is talking big of trying to correct it. Such

are the

dupesters in the field of astrology lurking in the shadows of the

Jyotish Group

corridors to catch hold of gullible prospects whom they can squeeze for

money.

Bhaskar.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

wrote:

>

>

> The Cat is out of the Bag

>

> In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time great

Jyotish

> group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been

> maintaining since long about him.

>

> In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member

> smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after

> shouting from the rooftops about his great association with the Raman

> Clan, confessed that he " is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha " . I

> have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5

out

> of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Heads

and

> Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always been using

> the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the

> wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed

> again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needs

working

> upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis

> Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology.

>

> He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming on the

> Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major

> portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversies and

> heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the

> software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the

> Moderator.

>

> I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their

> failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the

> Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of

> yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings which

they

> make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to making faults

> quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>