[HinduCalendar] Fwd: References of Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

June 22, 2009

> >

> > Abhinavagupta@

> > . com, Sarvesh Tiwari wrote:

> >

> > namaste.

> >

> > <<1. Pl. give the exact reference in the Udyoga

> > Parvan so that one could check the context of the

> > topic.>>

> >

> > In the 47th section of the udyoga parvana, refer to

> the

> > shlokas 92nd to 94th.

> >

> > <<2. Is this the only (isolated) reference of

> Rashis

> > in the Mbh(according to you and not actually!) or do

> you

> > have other references as well.>>

> >

> > Please re-read my post, because I gave no reference to

> any

> > rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to the

> mention of

> > predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the future

> outcome and

> > turn of events on basis of planetary configurations,

> mention

> > of brAhmaNa-s who were considered specialists, mention

> of

> > mR^igachakra, which by literal translation means the

> same

> > thing as " zodiac " , mention of the fact that

> > according to the testimony of the reporter (here

> sanjaya),

> > the eldest pANDava showed evidence of having faith in

> it,

> > signifying that the thing was an established one when

> these

> > lines was written.

> >

> > I have no opinion on the rest of the points raised,

> nor

> > interest in that particular line of discussion i.e.

> > nakShatra vs rAshi etc.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> >

> > Sarvesh Tiwari

> >

> > [Reply to Shri A K Kaul's post (21 June 2009) at

> >

> > http://groups.

> > / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/ 5186]

> >

> > --- End forwarded message ---

> >

>

> ICC World Twenty20 England '09

> exclusively on ! CRICKET http://cricket.

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June 22, 2009

MR Tiwari has himself siad that he is not talking of any Rashi, but SB didnt

forwarded real mail of Mr Tiwari again he tried to hide the facts like we always

see.

In the same mail Kaul has written that Nks are on Indian origins.I have also

confirmed same from VEDAS's VERSES and VEDANGA JYOTISH.

In VEDAS and VEDANA JYOTISH, nks were not of equal divisions, wht we know today.

Mr Kaul from fist day is saying that NKS are of Indian origin, but see lie of

SB.God knows why he is trying so, here everybody knows how to reach to other

groups and person can see the discussion

Group name is HINDUCALENDAR, rush...

--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

> [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of Rashis

in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

> vedic astrology

> Monday, 22 June, 2009, 11:30 AM

>

> >

>

> > > Abhinavagupta@

>

> > > . com, Sarvesh Tiwari wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > namaste.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > <<1. Pl. give the exact reference in the

> Udyoga

>

> > > Parvan so that one could check the context of

> the

>

> > > topic.>>

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > In the 47th section of the udyoga parvana, refer

> to

>

> > the

>

> > > shlokas 92nd to 94th.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > <<2. Is this the only (isolated) reference

> of

>

> > Rashis

>

> > > in the Mbh(according to you and not actually!) or

> do

>

> > you

>

> > > have other references as well.>>

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Please re-read my post, because I gave no

> reference to

>

> > any

>

> > > rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to the

>

> > mention of

>

> > > predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the future

>

> > outcome and

>

> > > turn of events on basis of planetary

> configurations,

>

> > mention

>

> > > of brAhmaNa-s who were considered specialists,

> mention

>

> > of

>

> > > mR^igachakra, which by literal translation means

> the

>

> > same

>

> > > thing as " zodiac " , mention of the fact

> that

>

> > > according to the testimony of the reporter (here

>

> > sanjaya),

>

> > > the eldest pANDava showed evidence of having

> faith in

>

> > it,

>

> > > signifying that the thing was an established one

> when

>

> > these

>

> > > lines was written.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > I have no opinion on the rest of the points

> raised,

>

> > nor

>

> > > interest in that particular line of discussion

> i.e.

>

> > > nakShatra vs rAshi etc.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Warm Regards

>

> > >

>

> > > Sarvesh Tiwari

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > [Reply to Shri A K Kaul's post (21 June 2009)

> at

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > http://groups.

>

> > > / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/ 5186]

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> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website.

> Enter http://cricket.

>

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June 22, 2009

MR Tiwari has himself siad that he is not talking of any Rashi, but SB didnt

forwarded real mail of Mr Tiwari again he tried to hide the facts like we always

see.

In the same mail Kaul has written that Nks are on Indian origins.I have also

confirmed same from VEDAS's VERSES and VEDANGA JYOTISH.

In VEDAS and VEDANA JYOTISH, nks were not of equal divisions, wht we know today.

Mr Kaul from fist day is saying that NKS are of Indian origin, but see lie of

SB.God knows why he is trying so, here everybody knows how to reach to other

groups and person can see the discussion

Group name is HINDUCALENDAR, rush...

--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

> [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of Rashis

in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

> vedic astrology

> Monday, 22 June, 2009, 11:30 AM

>

> >

>

> > > Abhinavagupta@

>

> > > . com, Sarvesh Tiwari wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > namaste.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > <<1. Pl. give the exact reference in the

> Udyoga

>

> > > Parvan so that one could check the context of

> the

>

> > > topic.>>

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > In the 47th section of the udyoga parvana, refer

> to

>

> > the

>

> > > shlokas 92nd to 94th.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > <<2. Is this the only (isolated) reference

> of

>

> > Rashis

>

> > > in the Mbh(according to you and not actually!) or

> do

>

> > you

>

> > > have other references as well.>>

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Please re-read my post, because I gave no

> reference to

>

> > any

>

> > > rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to the

>

> > mention of

>

> > > predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the future

>

> > outcome and

>

> > > turn of events on basis of planetary

> configurations,

>

> > mention

>

> > > of brAhmaNa-s who were considered specialists,

> mention

>

> > of

>

> > > mR^igachakra, which by literal translation means

> the

>

> > same

>

> > > thing as " zodiac " , mention of the fact

> that

>

> > > according to the testimony of the reporter (here

>

> > sanjaya),

>

> > > the eldest pANDava showed evidence of having

> faith in

>

> > it,

>

> > > signifying that the thing was an established one

> when

>

> > these

>

> > > lines was written.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > I have no opinion on the rest of the points

> raised,

>

> > nor

>

> > > interest in that particular line of discussion

> i.e.

>

> > > nakShatra vs rAshi etc.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Warm Regards

>

> > >

>

> > > Sarvesh Tiwari

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > [Reply to Shri A K Kaul's post (21 June 2009)

> at

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > http://groups.

>

> > > / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/ 5186]

>

> > >

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>

> > ICC World Twenty20 England '09

>

> > exclusively on ! CRICKET http://cricket.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website.

> Enter http://cricket.

>

Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter

http://cricket.

June 22, 2009

< Please re-read my post, because I gave no reference to

any rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to the mention of

predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the future outcome and

turn of events on basis of planetary configurations, mention >

Please re-read the lines written by Mr. Tiwari. He has said that he didnt talk

of any Rashi from MBH.

SB doesnt know that MBH and Vedanga Jyotish are of same time near about 100

years difference.Vedanga Jyotish

has talked about Sun and Moon's movement than why not MBH would not be talking

of the same.In MBH and VEDANGA Jyotish there have been no talk of any planet.Yes

there was talk of NKS and those were not of equal divisions in that period,NKS

are of Indian origins but later greeks made those of equal divisions and posed

on us.

About Lagna, Jyotishis have already claimed that on the basis of NKS ppl can

reach to Lagna and it was at that time.It is mere guess of some jyotishis but

still they have not clearly said it as there is no other verse to supposrt about

LAGNA.

Very interesting thing in VEDANGA JYOTISH there is talk of UTTARAYAN, measn we,

Hindus were aware of seasons but nobody is talking of it.When Rashis were

imporetd to India than Greeks tried to mingle UTTARAYAN with Rashi and talked of

Seasonal Rashichakra ie Tropical one.But later Greeks totally over powered whole

system and Sidereal Zodiac system came in existance.

This is the whole story in lay man's laguage.

Thanks

--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of

Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

> vedic astrology

> Monday, 22 June, 2009, 12:00 PM

>

MR Tiwari has himself siad that he is not talking of any

> Rashi, but SB didnt forwarded real mail of Mr Tiwari again

> he tried to hide the facts like we always see.

>

> In the same mail Kaul has written that Nks are on Indian

> origins.I have also confirmed same from VEDAS's VERSES

> and VEDANGA JYOTISH.

>

> In VEDAS and VEDANA JYOTISH, nks were not of equal

> divisions, wht we know today.

>

> Mr Kaul from fist day is saying that NKS are of Indian

> origin, but see lie of SB.God knows why he is trying so,

> here everybody knows how to reach to other groups and person

> can see the discussion

>

> Group name is HINDUCALENDAR, rush...

>

> --- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@

> > wrote:

>

> > Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@

> >

>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd:

> Re: References of Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga

> Jyotisha.

>

> > vedic astrology@

> . com

>

> > Monday, 22 June, 2009, 11:30 AM

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> > > > . com, Sarvesh Tiwari wrote:

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

>

> > > > namaste.

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > <<1. Pl. give the exact reference in

> the

>

> > Udyoga

>

> >

>

> > > > Parvan so that one could check the context

> of

>

> > the

>

> >

>

> > > > topic.>>

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > In the 47th section of the udyoga parvana,

> refer

>

> > to

>

> >

>

> > > the

>

> >

>

> > > > shlokas 92nd to 94th.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > <<2. Is this the only (isolated)

> reference

>

> > of

>

> >

>

> > > Rashis

>

> >

>

> > > > in the Mbh(according to you and not

> actually!) or

>

> > do

>

> >

>

> > > you

>

> >

>

> > > > have other references as well.>>

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

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> >

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> >

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> > > > Please re-read my post, because I gave no

>

> > reference to

>

> >

>

> > > any

>

> >

>

> > > > rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to

> the

>

> >

>

> > > mention of

>

> >

>

> > > > predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the

> future

>

> >

>

> > > outcome and

>

> >

>

> > > > turn of events on basis of planetary

>

> > configurations,

>

> >

>

> > > mention

>

> >

>

> > > > of brAhmaNa-s who were considered

> specialists,

>

> > mention

>

> >

>

> > > of

>

> >

>

> > > > mR^igachakra, which by literal translation

> means

>

> > the

>

> >

>

> > > same

>

> >

>

> > > > thing as " zodiac " , mention of the

> fact

>

> > that

>

> >

>

> > > > according to the testimony of the reporter

> (here

>

> >

>

> > > sanjaya),

>

> >

>

> > > > the eldest pANDava showed evidence of

> having

>

> > faith in

>

> >

>

> > > it,

>

> >

>

> > > > signifying that the thing was an established

> one

>

> > when

>

> >

>

> > > these

>

> >

>

> > > > lines was written.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > I have no opinion on the rest of the points

>

> > raised,

>

> >

>

> > > nor

>

> >

>

> > > > interest in that particular line of

> discussion

>

> > i.e.

>

> >

>

> > > > nakShatra vs rAshi etc.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Warm Regards

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Sarvesh Tiwari

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > > [Reply to Shri A K Kaul's post (21 June

> 2009)

>

> > at

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > http://groups.

>

> >

>

> > > > / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/

> 5186]

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June 22, 2009

< Please re-read my post, because I gave no reference to

any rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to the mention of

predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the future outcome and

turn of events on basis of planetary configurations, mention >

Please re-read the lines written by Mr. Tiwari. He has said that he didnt talk

of any Rashi from MBH.

SB doesnt know that MBH and Vedanga Jyotish are of same time near about 100

years difference.Vedanga Jyotish

has talked about Sun and Moon's movement than why not MBH would not be talking

of the same.In MBH and VEDANGA Jyotish there have been no talk of any planet.Yes

there was talk of NKS and those were not of equal divisions in that period,NKS

are of Indian origins but later greeks made those of equal divisions and posed

on us.

About Lagna, Jyotishis have already claimed that on the basis of NKS ppl can

reach to Lagna and it was at that time.It is mere guess of some jyotishis but

still they have not clearly said it as there is no other verse to supposrt about

LAGNA.

Very interesting thing in VEDANGA JYOTISH there is talk of UTTARAYAN, measn we,

Hindus were aware of seasons but nobody is talking of it.When Rashis were

imporetd to India than Greeks tried to mingle UTTARAYAN with Rashi and talked of

Seasonal Rashichakra ie Tropical one.But later Greeks totally over powered whole

system and Sidereal Zodiac system came in existance.

This is the whole story in lay man's laguage.

Thanks

--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of

Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

> vedic astrology

> Monday, 22 June, 2009, 12:00 PM

>

MR Tiwari has himself siad that he is not talking of any

> Rashi, but SB didnt forwarded real mail of Mr Tiwari again

> he tried to hide the facts like we always see.

>

> In the same mail Kaul has written that Nks are on Indian

> origins.I have also confirmed same from VEDAS's VERSES

> and VEDANGA JYOTISH.

>

> In VEDAS and VEDANA JYOTISH, nks were not of equal

> divisions, wht we know today.

>

> Mr Kaul from fist day is saying that NKS are of Indian

> origin, but see lie of SB.God knows why he is trying so,

> here everybody knows how to reach to other groups and person

> can see the discussion

>

> Group name is HINDUCALENDAR, rush...

>

> --- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@

> > wrote:

>

> > Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@

> >

>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd:

> Re: References of Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga

> Jyotisha.

>

> > vedic astrology@

> . com

>

> > Monday, 22 June, 2009, 11:30 AM

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> > > > Abhinavagupta@

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> > > > . com, Sarvesh Tiwari wrote:

>

> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > > namaste.

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

>

> >

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> > > >

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> >

>

> > > > <<1. Pl. give the exact reference in

> the

>

> > Udyoga

>

> >

>

> > > > Parvan so that one could check the context

> of

>

> > the

>

> >

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> > > > topic.>>

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> > > >

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> > > >

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> > > > In the 47th section of the udyoga parvana,

> refer

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> > to

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> >

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> > > > shlokas 92nd to 94th.

>

> >

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> > > >

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> > > >

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> > > > <<2. Is this the only (isolated)

> reference

>

> > of

>

> >

>

> > > Rashis

>

> >

>

> > > > in the Mbh(according to you and not

> actually!) or

>

> > do

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> >

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> > > you

>

> >

>

> > > > have other references as well.>>

>

> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > > Please re-read my post, because I gave no

>

> > reference to

>

> >

>

> > > any

>

> >

>

> > > > rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to

> the

>

> >

>

> > > mention of

>

> >

>

> > > > predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the

> future

>

> >

>

> > > outcome and

>

> >

>

> > > > turn of events on basis of planetary

>

> > configurations,

>

> >

>

> > > mention

>

> >

>

> > > > of brAhmaNa-s who were considered

> specialists,

>

> > mention

>

> >

>

> > > of

>

> >

>

> > > > mR^igachakra, which by literal translation

> means

>

> > the

>

> >

>

> > > same

>

> >

>

> > > > thing as " zodiac " , mention of the

> fact

>

> > that

>

> >

>

> > > > according to the testimony of the reporter

> (here

>

> >

>

> > > sanjaya),

>

> >

>

> > > > the eldest pANDava showed evidence of

> having

>

> > faith in

>

> >

>

> > > it,

>

> >

>

> > > > signifying that the thing was an established

> one

>

> > when

>

> >

>

> > > these

>

> >

>

> > > > lines was written.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > > I have no opinion on the rest of the points

>

> > raised,

>

> >

>

> > > nor

>

> >

>

> > > > interest in that particular line of

> discussion

>

> > i.e.

>

> >

>

> > > > nakShatra vs rAshi etc.

>

> >

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> > > >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

>

> >

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> > > > Warm Regards

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> >

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> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Sarvesh Tiwari

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > [Reply to Shri A K Kaul's post (21 June

> 2009)

>

> > at

>

> >

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> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

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> > > >

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> > > > http://groups.

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>

> > > > / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/

> 5186]

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June 22, 2009

Mr. Tiwari has proved that Astrology was there at the times of Mahabharata. That

settles the issue. Ask Kaul to admit that astrology was not imported from the

Greeks. God will be happ .to see if people have regard for the truth.

Understand?

--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of Rashis

in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

vedic astrology

Monday, June 22, 2009, 5:00 AM

MR Tiwari has himself siad that he is not talking of any Rashi, but SB didnt

forwarded real mail of Mr Tiwari again he tried to hide the facts like we always

see.

In the same mail Kaul has written that Nks are on Indian origins.I have also

confirmed same from VEDAS's VERSES and VEDANGA JYOTISH.

In VEDAS and VEDANA JYOTISH, nks were not of equal divisions, wht we know today.

Mr Kaul from fist day is saying that NKS are of Indian origin, but see lie of

SB.God knows why he is trying so, here everybody knows how to reach to other

groups and person can see the discussion

Group name is HINDUCALENDAR, rush...

--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ > wrote:

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ >

> [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of Rashis

in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

> vedic astrology

> Monday, 22 June, 2009, 11:30 AM

>

> >

>

> > > Abhinavagupta@

>

> > > . com, Sarvesh Tiwari wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > namaste.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > <<1. Pl. give the exact reference in the

> Udyoga

>

> > > Parvan so that one could check the context of

> the

>

> > > topic.>>

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > In the 47th section of the udyoga parvana, refer

> to

>

> > the

>

> > > shlokas 92nd to 94th.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > <<2. Is this the only (isolated) reference

> of

>

> > Rashis

>

> > > in the Mbh(according to you and not actually!) or

> do

>

> > you

>

> > > have other references as well.>>

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Please re-read my post, because I gave no

> reference to

>

> > any

>

> > > rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to the

>

> > mention of

>

> > > predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the future

>

> > outcome and

>

> > > turn of events on basis of planetary

> configurations,

>

> > mention

>

> > > of brAhmaNa-s who were considered specialists,

> mention

>

> > of

>

> > > mR^igachakra, which by literal translation means

> the

>

> > same

>

> > > thing as " zodiac " , mention of the fact

> that

>

> > > according to the testimony of the reporter (here

>

> > sanjaya),

>

> > > the eldest pANDava showed evidence of having

> faith in

>

> > it,

>

> > > signifying that the thing was an established one

> when

>

> > these

>

> > > lines was written.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > I have no opinion on the rest of the points

> raised,

>

> > nor

>

> > > interest in that particular line of discussion

> i.e.

>

> > > nakShatra vs rAshi etc.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Warm Regards

>

> > >

>

> > > Sarvesh Tiwari

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > [Reply to Shri A K Kaul's post (21 June 2009)

> at

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > http://groups.

>

> > > / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/ 5186]

>

> > >

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>

> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website.

> Enter http://cricket.

>

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June 22, 2009

Why don't you talk that astrology was practised at the time of the Mahabharata.

Why you people do not have guts to admit that?

--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of Rashis

in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

vedic astrology

Monday, June 22, 2009, 5:02 AM

MR Tiwari has himself siad that he is not talking of any Rashi, but SB didnt

forwarded real mail of Mr Tiwari again he tried to hide the facts like we always

see.

In the same mail Kaul has written that Nks are on Indian origins.I have also

confirmed same from VEDAS's VERSES and VEDANGA JYOTISH.

In VEDAS and VEDANA JYOTISH, nks were not of equal divisions, wht we know today.

Mr Kaul from fist day is saying that NKS are of Indian origin, but see lie of

SB.God knows why he is trying so, here everybody knows how to reach to other

groups and person can see the discussion

Group name is HINDUCALENDAR, rush...

--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ > wrote:

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ >

> [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of Rashis

in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

> vedic astrology

> Monday, 22 June, 2009, 11:30 AM

>

> >

>

> > > Abhinavagupta@

>

> > > . com, Sarvesh Tiwari wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > namaste.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > <<1. Pl. give the exact reference in the

> Udyoga

>

> > > Parvan so that one could check the context of

> the

>

> > > topic.>>

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > In the 47th section of the udyoga parvana, refer

> to

>

> > the

>

> > > shlokas 92nd to 94th.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > <<2. Is this the only (isolated) reference

> of

>

> > Rashis

>

> > > in the Mbh(according to you and not actually!) or

> do

>

> > you

>

> > > have other references as well.>>

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Please re-read my post, because I gave no

> reference to

>

> > any

>

> > > rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to the

>

> > mention of

>

> > > predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the future

>

> > outcome and

>

> > > turn of events on basis of planetary

> configurations,

>

> > mention

>

> > > of brAhmaNa-s who were considered specialists,

> mention

>

> > of

>

> > > mR^igachakra, which by literal translation means

> the

>

> > same

>

> > > thing as " zodiac " , mention of the fact

> that

>

> > > according to the testimony of the reporter (here

>

> > sanjaya),

>

> > > the eldest pANDava showed evidence of having

> faith in

>

> > it,

>

> > > signifying that the thing was an established one

> when

>

> > these

>

> > > lines was written.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > I have no opinion on the rest of the points

> raised,

>

> > nor

>

> > > interest in that particular line of discussion

> i.e.

>

> > > nakShatra vs rAshi etc.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Warm Regards

>

> > >

>

> > > Sarvesh Tiwari

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > [Reply to Shri A K Kaul's post (21 June 2009)

> at

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > http://groups.

>

> > > / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/ 5186]

>

> > >

>

> > >

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> > >

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> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website.

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June 22, 2009

Please understand from his post that Astrology was practised at the time of the

Mahabharata. Even a schollboy will understnd that. That is the most important

message for the Astrology group.

--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of Rashis

in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

vedic astrology

Monday, June 22, 2009, 6:13 AM

< Please re-read my post, because I gave no reference to

any rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to the mention of

predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the future outcome and

turn of events on basis of planetary configurations, mention >

Please re-read the lines written by Mr. Tiwari. He has said that he didnt talk

of any Rashi from MBH.

SB doesnt know that MBH and Vedanga Jyotish are of same time near about 100

years difference.Vedanga Jyotish

has talked about Sun and Moon's movement than why not MBH would not be talking

of the same.In MBH and VEDANGA Jyotish there have been no talk of any planet.Yes

there was talk of NKS and those were not of equal divisions in that period,NKS

are of Indian origins but later greeks made those of equal divisions and posed

on us.

About Lagna, Jyotishis have already claimed that on the basis of NKS ppl can

reach to Lagna and it was at that time.It is mere guess of some jyotishis but

still they have not clearly said it as there is no other verse to supposrt about

LAGNA.

Very interesting thing in VEDANGA JYOTISH there is talk of UTTARAYAN, measn we,

Hindus were aware of seasons but nobody is talking of it.When Rashis were

imporetd to India than Greeks tried to mingle UTTARAYAN with Rashi and talked of

Seasonal Rashichakra ie Tropical one.But later Greeks totally over powered whole

system and Sidereal Zodiac system came in existance.

This is the whole story in lay man's laguage.

Thanks

--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ > wrote:

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ >

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of

Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

> vedic astrology

> Monday, 22 June, 2009, 12:00 PM

>

MR Tiwari has himself siad that he is not talking of any

> Rashi, but SB didnt forwarded real mail of Mr Tiwari again

> he tried to hide the facts like we always see.

>

> In the same mail Kaul has written that Nks are on Indian

> origins.I have also confirmed same from VEDAS's VERSES

> and VEDANGA JYOTISH.

>

> In VEDAS and VEDANA JYOTISH, nks were not of equal

> divisions, wht we know today.

>

> Mr Kaul from fist day is saying that NKS are of Indian

> origin, but see lie of SB.God knows why he is trying so,

> here everybody knows how to reach to other groups and person

> can see the discussion

>

> Group name is HINDUCALENDAR, rush...

>

> --- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@

> > wrote:

>

> > Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@

> >

>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd:

> Re: References of Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga

> Jyotisha.

>

> > vedic astrology@

> . com

>

> > Monday, 22 June, 2009, 11:30 AM

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> >

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> > > > Abhinavagupta@

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> >

>

> > > > . com, Sarvesh Tiwari wrote:

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > namaste.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > <<1. Pl. give the exact reference in

> the

>

> > Udyoga

>

> >

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> > > > Parvan so that one could check the context

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> > > > In the 47th section of the udyoga parvana,

> refer

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> >

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> > > > shlokas 92nd to 94th.

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> >

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> > > > <<2. Is this the only (isolated)

> reference

>

> > of

>

> >

>

> > > Rashis

>

> >

>

> > > > in the Mbh(according to you and not

> actually!) or

>

> > do

>

> >

>

> > > you

>

> >

>

> > > > have other references as well.>>

>

> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

>

> > > > Please re-read my post, because I gave no

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> > reference to

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> >

>

> > > any

>

> >

>

> > > > rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to

> the

>

> >

>

> > > mention of

>

> >

>

> > > > predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the

> future

>

> >

>

> > > outcome and

>

> >

>

> > > > turn of events on basis of planetary

>

> > configurations,

>

> >

>

> > > mention

>

> >

>

> > > > of brAhmaNa-s who were considered

> specialists,

>

> > mention

>

> >

>

> > > of

>

> >

>

> > > > mR^igachakra, which by literal translation

> means

>

> > the

>

> >

>

> > > same

>

> >

>

> > > > thing as " zodiac " , mention of the

> fact

>

> > that

>

> >

>

> > > > according to the testimony of the reporter

> (here

>

> >

>

> > > sanjaya),

>

> >

>

> > > > the eldest pANDava showed evidence of

> having

>

> > faith in

>

> >

>

> > > it,

>

> >

>

> > > > signifying that the thing was an established

> one

>

> > when

>

> >

>

> > > these

>

> >

>

> > > > lines was written.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

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> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > I have no opinion on the rest of the points

>

> > raised,

>

> >

>

> > > nor

>

> >

>

> > > > interest in that particular line of

> discussion

>

> > i.e.

>

> >

>

> > > > nakShatra vs rAshi etc.

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > > Warm Regards

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> > > > Sarvesh Tiwari

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

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> >

>

> > > > [Reply to Shri A K Kaul's post (21 June

> 2009)

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> > at

>

> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

>

> >

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> > > >

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> > > > http://groups.

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> > > > / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/

> 5186]

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June 22, 2009

Rejoice fellow astrologers. Astrology was practised at the time of the

Mahabharata war. The barkings of the astrolgy-hater Kaul and his cronies cannot

take away the glory of the ancient Hindiu jtotishis.

--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32 wrote:

Anup Khanna <khannaanup32

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of Rashis

in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

vedic astrology

Monday, June 22, 2009, 6:14 AM

< Please re-read my post, because I gave no reference to

any rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to the mention of

predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the future outcome and

turn of events on basis of planetary configurations, mention >

Please re-read the lines written by Mr. Tiwari. He has said that he didnt talk

of any Rashi from MBH.

SB doesnt know that MBH and Vedanga Jyotish are of same time near about 100

years difference.Vedanga Jyotish

has talked about Sun and Moon's movement than why not MBH would not be talking

of the same.In MBH and VEDANGA Jyotish there have been no talk of any planet.Yes

there was talk of NKS and those were not of equal divisions in that period,NKS

are of Indian origins but later greeks made those of equal divisions and posed

on us.

About Lagna, Jyotishis have already claimed that on the basis of NKS ppl can

reach to Lagna and it was at that time.It is mere guess of some jyotishis but

still they have not clearly said it as there is no other verse to supposrt about

LAGNA.

Very interesting thing in VEDANGA JYOTISH there is talk of UTTARAYAN, measn we,

Hindus were aware of seasons but nobody is talking of it.When Rashis were

imporetd to India than Greeks tried to mingle UTTARAYAN with Rashi and talked of

Seasonal Rashichakra ie Tropical one.But later Greeks totally over powered whole

system and Sidereal Zodiac system came in existance.

This is the whole story in lay man's laguage.

Thanks

--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ > wrote:

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ >

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd: Re: References of

Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha.

> vedic astrology

> Monday, 22 June, 2009, 12:00 PM

>

MR Tiwari has himself siad that he is not talking of any

> Rashi, but SB didnt forwarded real mail of Mr Tiwari again

> he tried to hide the facts like we always see.

>

> In the same mail Kaul has written that Nks are on Indian

> origins.I have also confirmed same from VEDAS's VERSES

> and VEDANGA JYOTISH.

>

> In VEDAS and VEDANA JYOTISH, nks were not of equal

> divisions, wht we know today.

>

> Mr Kaul from fist day is saying that NKS are of Indian

> origin, but see lie of SB.God knows why he is trying so,

> here everybody knows how to reach to other groups and person

> can see the discussion

>

> Group name is HINDUCALENDAR, rush...

>

> --- On Mon, 22/6/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@

> > wrote:

>

> > Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@

> >

>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: [HinduCalendar] Fwd:

> Re: References of Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga

> Jyotisha.

>

> > vedic astrology@

> . com

>

> > Monday, 22 June, 2009, 11:30 AM

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> >

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> > > > Abhinavagupta@

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> >

>

> > > > . com, Sarvesh Tiwari wrote:

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > namaste.

>

> >

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> > > >

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> >

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> > > >

>

> >

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> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > <<1. Pl. give the exact reference in

> the

>

> > Udyoga

>

> >

>

> > > > Parvan so that one could check the context

> of

>

> > the

>

> >

>

> > > > topic.>>

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > In the 47th section of the udyoga parvana,

> refer

>

> > to

>

> >

>

> > > the

>

> >

>

> > > > shlokas 92nd to 94th.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > <<2. Is this the only (isolated)

> reference

>

> > of

>

> >

>

> > > Rashis

>

> >

>

> > > > in the Mbh(according to you and not

> actually!) or

>

> > do

>

> >

>

> > > you

>

> >

>

> > > > have other references as well.>>

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Please re-read my post, because I gave no

>

> > reference to

>

> >

>

> > > any

>

> >

>

> > > > rAshi-s. I only provided a reference to

> the

>

> >

>

> > > mention of

>

> >

>

> > > > predictive astrology, i.e. predicting the

> future

>

> >

>

> > > outcome and

>

> >

>

> > > > turn of events on basis of planetary

>

> > configurations,

>

> >

>

> > > mention

>

> >

>

> > > > of brAhmaNa-s who were considered

> specialists,

>

> > mention

>

> >

>

> > > of

>

> >

>

> > > > mR^igachakra, which by literal translation

> means

>

> > the

>

> >

>

> > > same

>

> >

>

> > > > thing as " zodiac " , mention of the

> fact

>

> > that

>

> >

>

> > > > according to the testimony of the reporter

> (here

>

> >

>

> > > sanjaya),

>

> >

>

> > > > the eldest pANDava showed evidence of

> having

>

> > faith in

>

> >

>

> > > it,

>

> >

>

> > > > signifying that the thing was an established

> one

>

> > when

>

> >

>

> > > these

>

> >

>

> > > > lines was written.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > I have no opinion on the rest of the points

>

> > raised,

>

> >

>

> > > nor

>

> >

>

> > > > interest in that particular line of

> discussion

>

> > i.e.

>

> >

>

> > > > nakShatra vs rAshi etc.

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Warm Regards

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > Sarvesh Tiwari

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > [Reply to Shri A K Kaul's post (21 June

> 2009)

>

> > at

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > > http://groups.

>

> >

>

> > > > / group/Abhinavagu pta/message/

> 5186]

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> > > >

>

> >

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> > > > --- End forwarded message ---

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