Fw: Come to senses Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya !!

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vedic astrology , Sunil Bhattacharjya

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> Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

> Re: Re: Come to senses Mr Vinay Jha

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> Cc: Ancient_indian_astrology

> Saturday, July 18, 2009, 5:29 AM

 

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> Since  Vinay Jha's stay in the AIA group he has been abusing

and  maligning me, as addicted to wine, even though I am a

teetotaller. Inspite of that I tried to forget his abuses. But he is

incorrigible. When in a mail I said that the Rig Veda says that we are

all brothers he took lot of pains to quote several verses from the Rig

Veda to show that nowhere the Rig Veda had said that we are brothers.

Then I had to quote the exact verse where the Rig Veda indeed ays that

we all are brothers. Recently when I said that  Svetasvatara

Upanishad mentions Samkhya he challenged and said that Sankhya is not

mentioned in that upanishad and I had to quote the relevant verse to

show that he was wrong. On another occasion when I said that Magha

mentioned in the Vedanga Jyotisha is Purnimanta Maghahe he opposed it

saying that the Siddhantas do not accept that. Then I asked him to show

a verse from the Suryasiddhanta to support that. Then he realised his

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Purnimanta month indeed. Several times he made unfounded claims.

Everytime he tries to mislead the members with false information. 

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> If we go by his interpretation then Lord Rama's birth occurred about a

million years ago. Purana, the fifth veda, gives the lineology of the

Suryavamsha and that does not say that Lord Rama was born a million

years ago. People like Vinay Jha are causing immense damage to the image

of Hinduism. He claims to be a monk and also vaunts that because of that

he has access to secret knowledge, which the ordinary mortals like us do

not have. It is preposterous and nobody including the great Adi

Sankaracharaya had not boasted like that. He appears to have some sort

of megalomania and thinks himself to be a great scholar authorised to

slight other people. Now I realise that Chandrahariji was right in

telling us in AIA about Mr. Vinay Jha. At that time I did not like the

strong words used by Chandrahariji but now I realise what made

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> In these fora we have arguments and exchanges of information to sort

out topical matters intellectually but Vinay Jha believes in vitiating

the environment. He is somewhat sophisticated and does not hurl abuses

with sexual overtones like some other members had done earlier.

Nonetheless he gives abuses bordering on that. He thinks that if someone

does not accept his views then that person must be his enemy.

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> Re: Do Not Cite Scriptures Falsely, Mr Sunil

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> Saturday, July 18, 2009, 4:01 AM

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> > Vinay Jha is dumbfounded by the relation  2700 Divya varsha =

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