, Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya and Vinay Jhaaji, please both come t

July 20, 2009

vedic astrology , " harimalla " <harimalla

wrote:

>

> Dear Jhaaji,

> What you say may be true.please confirm from other sources too.

> But today Bhattacharjyaji has forwarded some information about the

yugas, which I have found useful.It quotes Vayu purana and Bhavishya

purana.In Bhavisya purana it seems to be mentioned about the Brahmavada

as 26ooo years and in Vayu purana mentioning ayanavda as 24ooo years.

> What has attractd me is the word Brahmavada which can mean one day of

Brahmaji or one Kalpa as 26ooo years.

> I feel parokshya means also physical but in a large sense, whereas

aparokshya means physical in a smaller sense, but they are both

physical.For example the physical world is small, limited to the parts

of the earth, whereas the astorlogical world is big extending to the

universe.But they are both parts of the same whole.The devalok is a

bigger world.In fact I am convinced that Amaravati means the circle of

the nakshyatras, which is very big compared to our solar system and much

bigger compares to our samll earth.

> Regards,

> Hari Malla

> vedic astrology , " vinayjhaa16 " vinayjhaa16@

wrote:

> >

> > Malla ji,

> >

> > I have consulted Vayu Purana through the foremost scholar of

Allahabad

> > (Dr Girija Shankar Shastri), Mr Sunil is deliberately trying to

reform

> > the views of our scriptures. Why you do not ask him to quote the

> > original verses of Vayu Purana if he is right?

> >

> > Mr Sunil has some others backing him who are abusing me for over six

> > months just because I carried a long research on comparison of

physical

> > and siddhantic astronomies and found both to be true in their

respective

> > fields : physical world and astrological world (devaloka). Instead

of

> > testing the astrological results of both methods, these chelas of Mr

> > Chandrahari and Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya want to win a debate by

abusing

> > and banning me unfairly. I have seen and shown ample proofs of their

> > respect for 'truth'. I have no more time for those who lack guts for

> > impartial debate and imposed censorship on me unjustly.

> >

> > -VJ

> >

> > vedic astrology , " harimalla@ " <harimalla@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jhaaji,

> > > Most of the puranas say as you have quoted.But Bhattacharjyaji,

says

> > in the Vayu purana it is different.Since 36o years of divya varsha

is

> > not a natural cycle but only symbolic, that possibility being

there,it

> > is difficult for me to discard without confirming.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Hari Malla

> > > vedic astrology , Vinay Jha vinayjhaa16@

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > In spite of direct and clear references from so many Puranas,

> > siddhantas and Mahabharata, Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya is sticking to

the

> > view that Puranas have 12000 years (solar year according to him) for

one

> > Mahayuga, whereas in fact Puranas say 12000 " divya varshas " per

> > Mahayuga, and define one divya varsha as 360 " maanusha " varsha, the

> > latter being solar according to puranas.

> > > >

> > > > -Vinay jha

> > > > ============================= ==

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya@

> > > >

> > > > Cc: ;

> > vedic astrology

> > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 4:48:15 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Re: , Mr Sunil

> > Bhattacharjya and Vinay Jhaaji, please both come to your senses.

> > > >

> > > > Shri Harimallaji,

> > > >

> > > > 1)

> > > >

> > > > quote

> > > >

> > > > The figures you have provided are a product of the sidhantic

jyotish

> > > > period and not vedic.

> > > >

> > > > Unquote

> > > >

> > > > No. Not Siddhantic they are puranic, ie. from the fifth Veda.

> > > >

> > > > 2)

> > > >

> > > > To my understanding according to Purana the " Jana-loka " is above

> > " Dhruva-loka " and " Tapa-loka " is above " Jana-loka " . " Tapa-loka " is

the

> > " Deva-loka " . Devas such as the Vasus do have longer life than human

> > beings and their day-time starts from the Uttarayana and lasts till

the

> > Dakshinayana.

> > > > Bhishma, a Vasu, waited till the onset of the Vasu's day on the

> > > > Uttarayana day, so that he can go to his " Tapa-loka " . That may

also

> > be another reason as to why the month " Tapa " starts from Uttarayana.

> > That is why it is said that Deva's (Devaanaam) one day and night

> > together is equal to man's year. My view is that this has nothing to

do

> > with the Mahayuga span of 12000 Divya-varsha (Sidereal Solar year).

I go

> > by the definition of Divya-varsha as given in the Vayu-Purana.

> > > >

> > > > As your imaginary views are without any support from Veda or

Purana

> > and are entirely different from mine let us agree to disagree. My

> > request to you is that you can take up your ideas on the forum on

> > Calendar reform.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya.

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 7/19/09, harimalla@rocketmai l.com

harimalla@rocketmai

> > l.com> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > harimalla@rocketmai l.com harimalla@rocketmai l.com>

> > > > Re: , Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya and Vinay

> > Jhaaji, please both come to your senses.

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009, 6:22 AM

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhattacharjyaji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar!The figures you have provided are a product of the

> > sidhantic jyotish period and not vedic.During the Bhagvat Gita

period

> > vedanga jyotish was in vogue.At that time they had the concept of

the

> > five year yuga.It is on this jyotish background that shri Krishna

talks

> > of 1000 yugas make one kalpa in the Bhagvat gita.Thus from this

concept,

> > it becomes only 5ooo years for one kalpa.

> > > >

> > > > We should also consider the yugas as satya, treta, dwapar and

kali

> > as the distinct epochs of Kalki, Ram, Krishna and Buddha.Can you

imagine

> > them to be of 43 lakh years span.Human history is said to be of

about

> > 6ooo years, and human civilistion of 1o,ooo years,when they had

> > agriculture.

> > > >

> > > > You should also remember that Indra tells Rohit to go on moving

as

> > satya is equal to act of walking, treta of standing, dwapar of

sitting

> > and kali of lying down.When one person can do it in the above

postures,

> > and if one were to believe of taking about 43 lakhs years to do

that, it

> > would appear senseless.Thus our sidhanta astronomers must have been

only

> > using symbolic figures, not to be relied upon from literal point of

> > view.For example, there is no natural cycle of 36o years as divya

varsha

> > of which Vinay Jhaaji has quoted many puranas, with one human year

as

> > dvya din.

> > > >

> > > > Thus many of these figures are only symbolic not to be taken in

the

> > literal sense.Only the parokshya meanings from them are to be

derived.

> > > >

> > > > I have also said how Dhruvasthan is meru from where Brahmaji

starts

> > creation, as mentioned by Bhaskaracharya too. Also Dhruva had two

sons

> > one was Vatsar and another was kalpa as ert thre Bhagvat purana.Thus

> > since it is dhruva point which forms the precession cycle,we have

> > little choice not to say that is the precessional cycle or ayanamsa

> > cycle of 258oo years.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > HAri Malla

> > > >

> > > > , Sunil Bhattacharjya

> > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Shri Harimallaji,

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > One Mahayuga is 12000 years and one kalpa is 1000 mahayugas

ie. 12

> > million years.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > SKB

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > --- On Sat, 7/18/09, harimalla@ . <harimalla@ ..> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > harimalla@ . <harimalla@ ..>

> > > >

> > > > > Re: , Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya and Vinay

> > Jhaaji, please both come to your senses.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Saturday, July 18, 2009, 10:44 PM

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Daer Bhattacharjyai,

> > > >

> > > > > In the chapter on sidhanta period,in Bharitya jyotish, Shankar

> > Balakrishna Dixit has said that Bhaskaracharya opined that Meru is

at

> > dhruvastahan. We all know that sitting atop meru Barahmaji creates

the

> > world.Thus when you say,to produce the verse on dhruva kalpa and

> > Brahmaji kalpa as being the same, there seems to be good possibility

of

> > it.

> > > >

> > > > > It is also said in the Bhagvat that Dhruba had two sons one

was

> > vatsar or year and another was kalpa.Thus there seems to be ample

proof

> > that the ayanamsa chakra is the kalpa of Brahmaji.During the

sidhanta

> > period,due to lack of sufficient knowledge, they had got fantastic

> > figure for the kalpa.It might be the confusion like the divya varsha

and

> > divya din mentioned variously in the various puranas.We do not know

any

> > 36o years cycle in nature.

> > > >

> > > > > thank you.

> > > >

> > > > > Hari Malla

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > , " harimalla@ .. "

<harimalla@

> > ..> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > , " harimalla@ "

<harimalla@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > DEAR mamoths and ants,

> > > >

> > > > > > > If you all do not mind, while the mamoths wrestle and the

ants

> > bite,

> > > >

> > > > > > > as a diversion,I will take this opportunity to start a

> > discussion with far reaching effects.perhaps this will distract the

> > mamoths to some extent.

> > > >

> > > > > > > I have tried to analyse what is the meaning of divya din,

> > divya varsha, yugas, manwantar and kalpa.

> > > >

> > > > > > > This is my interpretations of the shastriya time

keeping.we

> > have three types of days, the human day, divine day and brahmaji

> > day.they are all realted to the earth axis.

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > 1.Human day is 24 hours, being daily rotation around the

earth

> > axis or the pole star.

> > > >

> > > > > > > 2.Divine day is one year,divided into two by the diameter

from

> > winter solstice to summer solstice i.e. uttaryan to dakhinayan or

the

> > line joining the polestar to the sun.

> > > >

> > > > > > > 3.Brahmaji day is 258oo years being the one round of the

pole

> > star around ecliptic pole.

> > > >

> > > > > > > I invite the two mamoths to give their opinion on this

point I

> > have raised.when they try to think about this issue perhaps some of

> > their energies will be properly utilised.The ants may also give

their

> > oinions please.I thank you all, if you help to discuss this idea.

> > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > > > > Hari Malla

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " gopi_b927 "

> > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks4calling younger brother Dear Rohini ji,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I was(am)not speechless by HER grace but silent

since it

> > is my

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > nature.What can i do when my post seem to be

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > edited/moderated/ censored! !!!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Any way first of all there is no rope 4me.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

" Rohiniranjan "

> > jyotish_vani@

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > When everything comes to a standstill, Gopi-ji and

we

> > are at the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > end

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of a rope as the expression goes, there is only one

> > option that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > remains!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Giving up! And that is when SHE comes gushing to

collect

> > your pieces

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > all

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of which belong to HER really and since DIVINITY is

> > genderless,,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > exclusively to HER I suppose!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > That was what my younger brother was trying to say

I

> > am sure --

> > > >

> > > > > > > > but

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > went speechless as you may have noticed!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " gopi_b927 "

> > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > who is the panchayat here ants like you?........

> > .when 2

> > > >

> > > > > > > > elephants

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > are at

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > logerheads what can the ants do?Iam also leaving

the

> > answer to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > giants because i am helpless(like many).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I am just unable to understand with my little

brain

> > what does it

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > serve?Does it serve GOD?again i have my own

little

> > doubts.....

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Even if it is proved that one of them is right,

what

> > does it

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > mean.......GOD KNOWS!!!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > " Rohiniranjan "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Both You and Vinay-Ji are Mammoths in your own

> > individual

> > > >

> > > > > > > > ways!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What can we tiny insects do, other than to

bite

> > you from time

> > > >

> > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > time

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and remind you that we were trying to 'help'!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Are both of you erudite gentlemen (I learned

that

> > word from

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > BVRaman's

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > astrological magazines back when I was a

> > teenager...! ) trying

> > > >

> > > > > > > > to:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ? Register a public complaint so that current

> > PANCHAAYAT may

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > pronounce

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > a judgment in our cyber-village?

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ?? Educate us " great unwashed " with stuff that

....

> > (I will

> > > >

> > > > > > > > leave

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > unfinished and to all readers' imaginations to

fill

> > in the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > blanks!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Just

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > as a mental exercise that has been recently

found

> > helpful,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > healthwise by

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > doctors)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? Is this an ongoing expression of 'boredom'

or

> > something

> > > >

> > > > > > > > like

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that?

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhul chook leni deni!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohini

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sunil

> > Bhattacharjya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sunil_bhattacharjya @ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To all,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vinay Jha has again lying. I always said

that

> > Vayu purana

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > gives

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > explanation of Divya varsha as Solar year. One

> > Saptarshi cycle =

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2700

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Divya varsha = 3030 Mnusha varsha.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let him explain this first. It is beacause

of

> > this verse he

> > > >

> > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > avoiding Vayu purana all along.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > When will he have the moral courage to speak

the

> > truth? He

> > > >

> > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > citing

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > verses about " Devaanam varsha " , which is

applicable

> > to Devaloka

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > not

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > to Martyaloka. He does no sanskrit at all,

rather he

> > picked up

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > some

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrong ideas about Sanskrit.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/17/09, vinayjhaa16

vinayjhaa16@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vinayjhaa16 vinayjhaa16@

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do Not Cite

Scriptures

> > Falsely, Mr

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sunil

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhattacharjya!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:02 AM

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To All :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya said repeatedly that

one

> > divya varsha

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > was

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > equal

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to one solar year according to Mahabharata

and

> > Puranas, and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > refuses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > accept documentary evidences. Two months

ago, I

> > sent him

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > verses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > from

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > all

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > those texts which he was falsely quoting.

> > Thereafter, he

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > hibernated

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > two months, and came up with same falsehoods

> > again, mixed

> > > >

> > > > > > > > with

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > new

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lies

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and new abuses for me !! Then, I had to

spend

> > some time, and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > I

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sent

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > references from a lot of Puranas to expose

this

> > abusive

> > > >

> > > > > > > > liar,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > after

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > which will come again after some time with

same

> > falsehoods,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > feigning

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > forget all evidences provided so far by me.

And

> > he calls me

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > " an

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > incorrigible liar " . Here are the proofs

which

> > will convince

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > everyone

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that he does not know Sanskrit and cites

> > scriptures wrongly,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > too

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > haughty to admit his errors.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two months ago, I sent him reference from

Vishnu

> > Purana,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > which

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > says

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " maasair-dvaadashab hir-varsham- ahoraatram

tu

> > tat divi

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tribhir-varsha- shatair-varsham shashtyaa

> > > >

> > > > > > > > chaiva-asuradvishaa

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > m " (Amsha- vi,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > chapter-3, verse 10)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It means : " 12 (human) months are (equal to)

one

> > divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > day-night

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > /

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (and)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 360 (human) years are (equal to) one varsha

of

> > gods

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (=asuraodvishaam) . "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next verse says : " such 12000 yesrs are

equal to

> > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > chaturyuga.. . "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two months ago, I had explained this verse

word

> > by word

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > because

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mr

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not know Sanskrit, but he refused to

accept

> > such clear

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > verdict

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > called the yuga calculation of ancient sages

as

> > " my "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > invention

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > !

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two months ago, I also sent the following

prrof

> > from

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mahabharata

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (khanda

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5-chapter 231-verse15) :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ahoraatre vibhajate Suryau maanushalaukike "

,

> > which means

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > days

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > nights of manushya loka is made/divided by

> > Surya. Verse 17

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > says

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " Daive

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > raatryahanee varsham pravibhaagastayoh punah

,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ahastatrodagayanam

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > raatrih syad dakshinaayanam " : in which

" Daive

> > raatryahanee

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > varsham "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > means " (human) varsha is equal to day+night

of

> > gods " . Here

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > varsha is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > varsha of maanushalaukike which is to be

taken

> > from

> > > >

> > > > > > > > preceding

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > two

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > verses. Rest of verse 17 means " this daiva

> > day+night is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > divided

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > thus

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > uttara (ayana) is divine day and

dakshinaayana

> > is divine

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > night " .

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > MBh

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > clearly says that the maanushalaukika year

is

> > solar year :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > see

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > verse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 15

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > above which says that Sun divides/makes day

and

> > night in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > maanushalaukika

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (but not in devaloka). "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two months ago, I also sent evidences from

all

> > major ancient

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotisha

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Siddhantas :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ancient siddhantic texts invariably speak of

> > 4320000 solar

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > years

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mahayuga. For instance, in the first verse

of

> > Dashageetikaa

> > > >

> > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aryabhatiya, Sun's bhagana number per

(maha)yuga

> > is 4320000

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Earth's

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rotations are given to be 1582237500

(1582237828

> > in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Suryasiddhanta,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this minor difference being due to Sunrise

> > system of day

> > > >

> > > > > > > > count

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aryabhatiya in contrast to midnight system

of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Suryasiddhanta)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > .

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma-sphuta- siddhaanta( BSS) repeats the

> > mathematics of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mahabharata

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (MBh-v-231) in its first chapter verses 4-7,

in

> > which

> > > >

> > > > > > > > 4320000

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > normal

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > solar years of humans are said to make one

> > mahayuga (see

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > verses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 5-6)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1000 such mahayugas are said to make one

Kalpa

> > (BSS, ch-i,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > verse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 10).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, Suryasiddhanta, Aryabhatiya and

> > Brahma-sphuta-

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > siddhaanta

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > all

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > clearly say one mahayuga to be equal to

4320000

> > years and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > not

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 43200000

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > days as Mr Sunil wrongly tried to prove by

> > misquoting texts.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > His

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > stand

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is refuted by all these ancient texts :

> > Suryasiddhanta,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Aryabhatiya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma-sphuta- siddhaanta, Mahabharata,

Narada

> > Purana,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Vishnu

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dharmottara

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Purana, etc, all of which unanimously say

that

> > one mahayuga

> > > >

> > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4320000 years or 1582237828 days which is

equal

> > to 12000

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > divine

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > years.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can he put " 1582237828 sunrises " in only

> > 12000 " solar "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > years

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only this, Mr Sunil reads Hindu

scriptures

> > in reverse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > direction

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > like

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Urdu (from my message two months ago) :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vishnu Purana (Amsha-vi, chapter-3, verses

6-11)

> > clearly say

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 360

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " human " ( " maanusha " , see verse 6) years are

> > equal to one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > year

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12000 " divya " years constitute one

Chaturyuga

> > (ie,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Mahayuga).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > same thing is repeated in Vishnu Purana

> > (Amsha-i, chapter-3,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > verses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8-14), with clarification that four yugas of

a

> > Chaturyuga

> > > >

> > > > > > > > have

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lengths

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 4800, 3600, 2400 and 1200 divya years.

The

> > sequence of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > yugas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyuga, Treta, Dvaapara and Kaliyuga, which

> > means duration

> > > >

> > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Satyuga

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is 4800, Treta 3600, Dvaapara 2400 and

Kaliyuga

> > 1200 " divya "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > years

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > according to Vishnu Purana. Why Mr Sunil

inverts

> > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > sequence

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > four

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > yugas of a Chaturyuga and read Kaliyuga as

4800

> > ? Even

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > schoolboys do

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > commit such blunders ! It is certainly a

result

> > of excessive

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > drinking,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > although he says that only two tolas of wine

> > should be taken

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > daily.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is his statement about Rgveda :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<< " I said that that the Rig Veda says

that we

> > are all

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > brothers.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Then

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to disprove what I said Vinay Jha did

research

> > and quoted

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > several

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > verses from the Rig Veda to show that

nowhere in

> > the Rig

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Veda

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > said

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that we are all brothers. Then I had to

quote

> > the exact

> > > >

> > > > > > > > verse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > where

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is said that we are all brothers and this

shows

> > that he

> > > >

> > > > > > > > missed

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > relevant verse. Such is his false

scholarship. "

> > >>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I answered : The verses he quoted from

Rgveda

> > said that " all

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > 49

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Marutas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are equal bhraatara " . If anyone imagines 49

> > Maruts to be

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > humans,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > born

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > simultaneously, it must be due to genetic

> > cloning in Rgvedic

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > times,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because no mortal woman can beget 49 sons at

a

> > time ! Why

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sunil

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhattacharjya reduces deities like Maruts to

> > mortals ?

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Rgveda

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > never

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > said

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " we are all brothers " . Sunil Bhattacharjya

is

> > lying. He

> > > >

> > > > > > > > should

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > cite

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > texts honestly and properly, and should read

> > scriptures

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > without

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > goblet

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in hand. A person incapable of understanding

> > simple Puranic

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sanskrit

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > simple english and Hindi translations of the

> > same should

> > > >

> > > > > > > > keep

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > away

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > from

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult language of Rgveda. Pandits say

that

> > 12 years are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > needed

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > by

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanskrit scholars to master one Veda !!

> > Now-a-days every

> > > >

> > > > > > > > fool

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > may

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > pose

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as a Vedic expert, citing verses from

internet

> > out of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > context.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXX

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > All above exchanges took place over two

months

> > ago, after

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > which

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > he

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > went

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > into hibernation because he could not refute

the

> > evidences,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > but

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > after

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > two months came up again, repeating his old

> > lies, believing

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > members

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > must have forgotten exchanges of two months

ago.

> > In this

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > connection,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > another scholar Shri Venkata Krishnan in his

own

> > forum also

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > cited

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > verses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from Matsya Purana :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<<

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matsya Purana, chapter-142, Slokas 11-15

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning: " Thirty yearsof men is one month

for

> > the Gods. A

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > century of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > men

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is three months and a few days of the Gods.

360

> > Human years

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > make

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > year of the Devas ( Gods). ... 3,60,000

Human

> > years make One

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thousand

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divine years. " ( This verse-12 is exactly

> > repeated in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Verses18-19 of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linga Purana cited below)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Mr Sunil answered : " Thank you for the

> > trouble takien.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Let

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > us

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > agree

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to disagree. I shall prefer to go by the

> > definition of Vayu

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > purana

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (57.17) " .

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Sunil told me in this group : " Vayu

purana

> > says that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Divyavarsha

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solar year and Manushya varsha is the

Sidereal

> > Lunar year. "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I said : " Vayu Purana or no ancient text

ever

> > said that. Ask

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > him

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > quote the verse verbatim. " In reply, I got

> > abuses.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXX

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, I had to send new evidences from a

lot of

> > Puranas as

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > shown

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > below,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and as expected he again refuses to accept

his

> > faults :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Proof of length of Divya Varsha, this time

from

> > Narada

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Purana,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > which

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > presents Ganita and Phalita portions of

Jyotisha

> > in more

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > details

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > than

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > any other Purana (Sage Sanaka says ) :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Rturmaasadvayena syaattatrayenaayana m

smritam

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tatdvyena bhavedabdah sa devaanaam dinam

bhavet "

> > (verse-24,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ch-5)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " uttaram divasam praahoo raatrirvai

> > dakshinaayanam " (forst

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > half

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > verse-25, ch-5)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verse 24 defines ayana in first half, and

then

> > says two

> > > >

> > > > > > > > ayanas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (uttaraayana and dakshinaayana) make one

year

> > (of humans)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > which

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " din " of the gods. Next line says that

> > uttaraayana is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > " divasa "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > while

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dakshinnayana is night (of gods).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same thing is said in Bhagavata Purana (and

in

> > Vishnu

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Purana,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suryasiddhanta, Brahmasiddhanta,

Aryabhatiya,

> > etc) , but SKB

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > says it

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vague !!! SKB does not know Sanskrit which

is

> > " vague " to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > him,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > hence

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is impossible to convince him what the

> > Puranas & c say.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chapter-5 of Koorma Purana says same thing :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verse-5 defines " maanusha " measure, and then

> > " maasa' is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > defined

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > same

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > verse. Then, verse-6 says :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " taih shadbhir-ayanam varsham dve-ayane

> > dakshinottare

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ayanam dakshinam ratrir-devaanaam uttaram

dinam "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " six (maanusha maasas) make up one ayana,

two

> > ayanas uttara

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > dakshina

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > make one year

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dakshina ayana is night and uttara (ayana)

is

> > day of gods. "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXX

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chapter-1 of Linga Purana (verse 9-10)

> > differentiates

> > > >

> > > > > > > > various

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > types

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varshas, and enumerates Divya and Maanusha,

> > among others, as

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > different

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > typres. It is clarified in chapter-3, verse

> > 15-16 which say

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > human

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > year is equal to one divya day-night. In

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > said

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " 30

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > years (of humans) constitute one divya

month " ,

> > the language

> > > >

> > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > copy

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matsya Purana's definition of the same sent

by

> > me earlier

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ( " trinshadyaani tu varshaani divyo maasastu

sa

> > smritah " ).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verse-18-19 of Linga Purana repeats verse of

> > Matsya Purana :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Treeni varsha-shataat anyeva

shashti-varshaani

> > yaani tu

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > divyah samvatsaro hyesha maanushena

> > prakeertitah "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It means " 360 years of humans are equal to

one

> > divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > samvatsara " .

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Later verses in Linga Purana repeat the

verses

> > of matsya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Purana

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the length of Saptarshi Year, Dhruva Year,

etc.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now see Brahmaanda Purana which SKB needs so

> > much

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > (poorva-bhaaga

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > said by

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaayu) :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ch-6, verse 44-45 says Krityuga measures

4800

> > divya varshas,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > verse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 61-62

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > repeats same thing in changed words. but

actual

> > details are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > chapter-28 od second Anushamga of

Poorvabhaaga

> > said by Vayu

> > > >

> > > > > > > > :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like other Puranas, verse -5 says Maanusha

> > varsha is defined

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > on

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > basis of laukika pramaana, ie, solar year,

which

> > is the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > measure

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > year

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in this world. verse-7 clarifies it by saing

> > that Sun

> > > >

> > > > > > > > divides

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > day

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > night in maanusha-loka, and other measures

like

> > month and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > year

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > measured in terms of this solar measure.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verses 13-16 define divya dina and then

divya

> > varsha exactly

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > manner of Matsya and Linga Puranas, clearly

> > saying a divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > varsha to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > equal to 360 maanusha varshas in verse-16,

which

> > is an exact

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > replica

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matsya Purana.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now see Padma Purana , chapter-3, in the

words

> > of Sage

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pulastya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verse-7 says :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " dakshina ayana is night of gods and uttara

> > (ayana) is day

> > > >

> > > > > > > > (of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > gods) "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next verses say such 12000 divya varshas

make

> > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > chaturyuga.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Verses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 15-

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > say that " one manvantara is equal to 852000

> > divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > (suraadinaam)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > varshas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > which are equal to 306720000 human

(paarthiva)

> > years " : the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ratio is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 360 maanusha varshas in one divya varsha :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 852000 divya varshas =

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ashtau-shat- sahasraani- divyayaa-

samkhyayaa-

> > snritah /

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dvi-panchaashat- tathaa-anyaani- sahasraani-

> > adhikaanicha "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > (verse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 15-16) ;

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > which are equal to 306720000 paarthiva

varshas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " trint-koti- astu-sampoornaah samkhyaataah

> > samkgyayaanrpa /

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sapta-shashtih- tathaa-anyaani- niyutaani-

> > mahaamate /

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vimshatishch- sahasraani- kaaloyamadhikamv

inaa

> > /

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > manvantarasya- samkhyaeyam- maanushairiha-

> > vatsareh / "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now see Vishnudharma Purana , ch-105 , in

which

> > Sage

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Shaunaka

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > says

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (about the kaalamaana he got by worshipping

> > Keshava) :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verse-14 defines dakshina ayana as night and

> > uttara ayana as

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > day

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > gods, and says one samvatsara (of humans) is

one

> > ahoraatra

> > > >

> > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > gods.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then, Verse-15 says :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Shatatrayena varshaanaam shashtyaa cha

> > Prithivipate

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manushya-samkhyayaa varsham devaanaam-api

> > ganyate "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > = " O Prithvipati (King Shataaneeka) ! 360

years

> > of humans

> > > >

> > > > > > > > are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varsha of Gods "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next line says " iti divyena maanena

> > chaturyuga-vikalpan aam "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ie,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > chaturyuga (of 12000 divya years) is

measured in

> > this very

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > year

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (of 360 human years) "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhagavata purana (3.11.18 - 20) says in

verse 12

> > : " ayane

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > chaahanee

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > praahur-vatsaro dvaadasha smritah,

> > samvatsarshatam nrrnaam

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > paramaayur-nirupita m " , ie, the ayanas

> > (uttaraayana and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > dakshinaayana

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > described in preceding verse) are one day

(of

> > gods) but are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > called

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " varsha " or " dvaasha " (12 months) in the

loka of

> > nrrnaam

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (maanusha-loka) .

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Sunil Bhattacharya rejected all proofs

and

> > intensified

> > > >

> > > > > > > > his

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > abusive

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > attack on me. I cannot prevent him from

going

> > from one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > falsehood

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > another. But ancient texts must be cited

> > correctly. There

> > > >

> > > > > > > > are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > some

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > scholars who believe that one divya varsha

> > should be equal

> > > >

> > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > solar

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > year, but they do not cite scriptures

falsely

> > like Mr Sunil

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhattacharjya to make their idea more

> > acceptable. Mr Sunil

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > makes

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > mess

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Saamkhya, Gita, Upanishada, Vedas,

Puranas

> > and Epics due

> > > >

> > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > his

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lack

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of knowledge of Sanskrit and lack of proper

> > traning in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > indological

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > studies, but instead of studying texts

properly

> > he starts

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > posing

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > as

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > an

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > expert in everything, from Veda to liquor.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Vinay Jha

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> > > >

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July 20, 2009

vedic astrology , " harimalla " <harimalla

wrote:

>

> Dear Jhaaji,

> What you say may be true.please confirm from other sources too.

> But today Bhattacharjyaji has forwarded some information about the

yugas, which I have found useful.It quotes Vayu purana and Bhavishya

purana.In Bhavisya purana it seems to be mentioned about the Brahmavada

as 26ooo years and in Vayu purana mentioning ayanavda as 24ooo years.

> What has attractd me is the word Brahmavada which can mean one day of

Brahmaji or one Kalpa as 26ooo years.

> I feel parokshya means also physical but in a large sense, whereas

aparokshya means physical in a smaller sense, but they are both

physical.For example the physical world is small, limited to the parts

of the earth, whereas the astorlogical world is big extending to the

universe.But they are both parts of the same whole.The devalok is a

bigger world.In fact I am convinced that Amaravati means the circle of

the nakshyatras, which is very big compared to our solar system and much

bigger compares to our samll earth.

> Regards,

> Hari Malla

> vedic astrology , " vinayjhaa16 " vinayjhaa16@

wrote:

> >

> > Malla ji,

> >

> > I have consulted Vayu Purana through the foremost scholar of

Allahabad

> > (Dr Girija Shankar Shastri), Mr Sunil is deliberately trying to

reform

> > the views of our scriptures. Why you do not ask him to quote the

> > original verses of Vayu Purana if he is right?

> >

> > Mr Sunil has some others backing him who are abusing me for over six

> > months just because I carried a long research on comparison of

physical

> > and siddhantic astronomies and found both to be true in their

respective

> > fields : physical world and astrological world (devaloka). Instead

of

> > testing the astrological results of both methods, these chelas of Mr

> > Chandrahari and Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya want to win a debate by

abusing

> > and banning me unfairly. I have seen and shown ample proofs of their

> > respect for 'truth'. I have no more time for those who lack guts for

> > impartial debate and imposed censorship on me unjustly.

> >

> > -VJ

> >

> > vedic astrology , " harimalla@ " <harimalla@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jhaaji,

> > > Most of the puranas say as you have quoted.But Bhattacharjyaji,

says

> > in the Vayu purana it is different.Since 36o years of divya varsha

is

> > not a natural cycle but only symbolic, that possibility being

there,it

> > is difficult for me to discard without confirming.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Hari Malla

> > > vedic astrology , Vinay Jha vinayjhaa16@

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > In spite of direct and clear references from so many Puranas,

> > siddhantas and Mahabharata, Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya is sticking to

the

> > view that Puranas have 12000 years (solar year according to him) for

one

> > Mahayuga, whereas in fact Puranas say 12000 " divya varshas " per

> > Mahayuga, and define one divya varsha as 360 " maanusha " varsha, the

> > latter being solar according to puranas.

> > > >

> > > > -Vinay jha

> > > > ============================= ==

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya@

> > > >

> > > > Cc: ;

> > vedic astrology

> > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 4:48:15 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Re: , Mr Sunil

> > Bhattacharjya and Vinay Jhaaji, please both come to your senses.

> > > >

> > > > Shri Harimallaji,

> > > >

> > > > 1)

> > > >

> > > > quote

> > > >

> > > > The figures you have provided are a product of the sidhantic

jyotish

> > > > period and not vedic.

> > > >

> > > > Unquote

> > > >

> > > > No. Not Siddhantic they are puranic, ie. from the fifth Veda.

> > > >

> > > > 2)

> > > >

> > > > To my understanding according to Purana the " Jana-loka " is above

> > " Dhruva-loka " and " Tapa-loka " is above " Jana-loka " . " Tapa-loka " is

the

> > " Deva-loka " . Devas such as the Vasus do have longer life than human

> > beings and their day-time starts from the Uttarayana and lasts till

the

> > Dakshinayana.

> > > > Bhishma, a Vasu, waited till the onset of the Vasu's day on the

> > > > Uttarayana day, so that he can go to his " Tapa-loka " . That may

also

> > be another reason as to why the month " Tapa " starts from Uttarayana.

> > That is why it is said that Deva's (Devaanaam) one day and night

> > together is equal to man's year. My view is that this has nothing to

do

> > with the Mahayuga span of 12000 Divya-varsha (Sidereal Solar year).

I go

> > by the definition of Divya-varsha as given in the Vayu-Purana.

> > > >

> > > > As your imaginary views are without any support from Veda or

Purana

> > and are entirely different from mine let us agree to disagree. My

> > request to you is that you can take up your ideas on the forum on

> > Calendar reform.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya.

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 7/19/09, harimalla@rocketmai l.com

harimalla@rocketmai

> > l.com> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > harimalla@rocketmai l.com harimalla@rocketmai l.com>

> > > > Re: , Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya and Vinay

> > Jhaaji, please both come to your senses.

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009, 6:22 AM

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhattacharjyaji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar!The figures you have provided are a product of the

> > sidhantic jyotish period and not vedic.During the Bhagvat Gita

period

> > vedanga jyotish was in vogue.At that time they had the concept of

the

> > five year yuga.It is on this jyotish background that shri Krishna

talks

> > of 1000 yugas make one kalpa in the Bhagvat gita.Thus from this

concept,

> > it becomes only 5ooo years for one kalpa.

> > > >

> > > > We should also consider the yugas as satya, treta, dwapar and

kali

> > as the distinct epochs of Kalki, Ram, Krishna and Buddha.Can you

imagine

> > them to be of 43 lakh years span.Human history is said to be of

about

> > 6ooo years, and human civilistion of 1o,ooo years,when they had

> > agriculture.

> > > >

> > > > You should also remember that Indra tells Rohit to go on moving

as

> > satya is equal to act of walking, treta of standing, dwapar of

sitting

> > and kali of lying down.When one person can do it in the above

postures,

> > and if one were to believe of taking about 43 lakhs years to do

that, it

> > would appear senseless.Thus our sidhanta astronomers must have been

only

> > using symbolic figures, not to be relied upon from literal point of

> > view.For example, there is no natural cycle of 36o years as divya

varsha

> > of which Vinay Jhaaji has quoted many puranas, with one human year

as

> > dvya din.

> > > >

> > > > Thus many of these figures are only symbolic not to be taken in

the

> > literal sense.Only the parokshya meanings from them are to be

derived.

> > > >

> > > > I have also said how Dhruvasthan is meru from where Brahmaji

starts

> > creation, as mentioned by Bhaskaracharya too. Also Dhruva had two

sons

> > one was Vatsar and another was kalpa as ert thre Bhagvat purana.Thus

> > since it is dhruva point which forms the precession cycle,we have

> > little choice not to say that is the precessional cycle or ayanamsa

> > cycle of 258oo years.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > HAri Malla

> > > >

> > > > , Sunil Bhattacharjya

> > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Shri Harimallaji,

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > One Mahayuga is 12000 years and one kalpa is 1000 mahayugas

ie. 12

> > million years.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > SKB

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > --- On Sat, 7/18/09, harimalla@ . <harimalla@ ..> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > harimalla@ . <harimalla@ ..>

> > > >

> > > > > Re: , Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya and Vinay

> > Jhaaji, please both come to your senses.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Saturday, July 18, 2009, 10:44 PM

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Daer Bhattacharjyai,

> > > >

> > > > > In the chapter on sidhanta period,in Bharitya jyotish, Shankar

> > Balakrishna Dixit has said that Bhaskaracharya opined that Meru is

at

> > dhruvastahan. We all know that sitting atop meru Barahmaji creates

the

> > world.Thus when you say,to produce the verse on dhruva kalpa and

> > Brahmaji kalpa as being the same, there seems to be good possibility

of

> > it.

> > > >

> > > > > It is also said in the Bhagvat that Dhruba had two sons one

was

> > vatsar or year and another was kalpa.Thus there seems to be ample

proof

> > that the ayanamsa chakra is the kalpa of Brahmaji.During the

sidhanta

> > period,due to lack of sufficient knowledge, they had got fantastic

> > figure for the kalpa.It might be the confusion like the divya varsha

and

> > divya din mentioned variously in the various puranas.We do not know

any

> > 36o years cycle in nature.

> > > >

> > > > > thank you.

> > > >

> > > > > Hari Malla

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > , " harimalla@ .. "

<harimalla@

> > ..> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > , " harimalla@ "

<harimalla@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > DEAR mamoths and ants,

> > > >

> > > > > > > If you all do not mind, while the mamoths wrestle and the

ants

> > bite,

> > > >

> > > > > > > as a diversion,I will take this opportunity to start a

> > discussion with far reaching effects.perhaps this will distract the

> > mamoths to some extent.

> > > >

> > > > > > > I have tried to analyse what is the meaning of divya din,

> > divya varsha, yugas, manwantar and kalpa.

> > > >

> > > > > > > This is my interpretations of the shastriya time

keeping.we

> > have three types of days, the human day, divine day and brahmaji

> > day.they are all realted to the earth axis.

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > 1.Human day is 24 hours, being daily rotation around the

earth

> > axis or the pole star.

> > > >

> > > > > > > 2.Divine day is one year,divided into two by the diameter

from

> > winter solstice to summer solstice i.e. uttaryan to dakhinayan or

the

> > line joining the polestar to the sun.

> > > >

> > > > > > > 3.Brahmaji day is 258oo years being the one round of the

pole

> > star around ecliptic pole.

> > > >

> > > > > > > I invite the two mamoths to give their opinion on this

point I

> > have raised.when they try to think about this issue perhaps some of

> > their energies will be properly utilised.The ants may also give

their

> > oinions please.I thank you all, if you help to discuss this idea.

> > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > > > > Hari Malla

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " gopi_b927 "

> > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks4calling younger brother Dear Rohini ji,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I was(am)not speechless by HER grace but silent

since it

> > is my

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > nature.What can i do when my post seem to be

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > edited/moderated/ censored! !!!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Any way first of all there is no rope 4me.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

" Rohiniranjan "

> > jyotish_vani@

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > When everything comes to a standstill, Gopi-ji and

we

> > are at the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > end

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of a rope as the expression goes, there is only one

> > option that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > remains!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Giving up! And that is when SHE comes gushing to

collect

> > your pieces

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > all

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of which belong to HER really and since DIVINITY is

> > genderless,,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > exclusively to HER I suppose!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > That was what my younger brother was trying to say

I

> > am sure --

> > > >

> > > > > > > > but

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > went speechless as you may have noticed!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " gopi_b927 "

> > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > who is the panchayat here ants like you?........

> > .when 2

> > > >

> > > > > > > > elephants

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > are at

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > logerheads what can the ants do?Iam also leaving

the

> > answer to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > giants because i am helpless(like many).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I am just unable to understand with my little

brain

> > what does it

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > serve?Does it serve GOD?again i have my own

little

> > doubts.....

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Even if it is proved that one of them is right,

what

> > does it

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > mean.......GOD KNOWS!!!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > " Rohiniranjan "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Both You and Vinay-Ji are Mammoths in your own

> > individual

> > > >

> > > > > > > > ways!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What can we tiny insects do, other than to

bite

> > you from time

> > > >

> > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > time

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and remind you that we were trying to 'help'!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Are both of you erudite gentlemen (I learned

that

> > word from

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > BVRaman's

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > astrological magazines back when I was a

> > teenager...! ) trying

> > > >

> > > > > > > > to:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ? Register a public complaint so that current

> > PANCHAAYAT may

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > pronounce

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > a judgment in our cyber-village?

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ?? Educate us " great unwashed " with stuff that

....

> > (I will

> > > >

> > > > > > > > leave

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > unfinished and to all readers' imaginations to

fill

> > in the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > blanks!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Just

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > as a mental exercise that has been recently

found

> > helpful,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > healthwise by

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > doctors)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? Is this an ongoing expression of 'boredom'

or

> > something

> > > >

> > > > > > > > like

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that?

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhul chook leni deni!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohini

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sunil

> > Bhattacharjya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sunil_bhattacharjya @ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To all,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vinay Jha has again lying. I always said

that

> > Vayu purana

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > gives

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > explanation of Divya varsha as Solar year. One

> > Saptarshi cycle =

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2700

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Divya varsha = 3030 Mnusha varsha.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let him explain this first. It is beacause

of

> > this verse he

> > > >

> > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > avoiding Vayu purana all along.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > When will he have the moral courage to speak

the

> > truth? He

> > > >

> > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > citing

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > verses about " Devaanam varsha " , which is

applicable

> > to Devaloka

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > not

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > to Martyaloka. He does no sanskrit at all,

rather he

> > picked up

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > some

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrong ideas about Sanskrit.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/17/09, vinayjhaa16

vinayjhaa16@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vinayjhaa16 vinayjhaa16@

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do Not Cite

Scriptures

> > Falsely, Mr

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sunil

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhattacharjya!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:02 AM

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To All :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Sunil Bhattacharjya said repeatedly that

one

> > divya varsha

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > was

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > equal

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to one solar year according to Mahabharata

and

> > Puranas, and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > refuses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > accept documentary evidences. Two months

ago, I

> > sent him

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > verses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > from

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > all

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > those texts which he was falsely quoting.

> > Thereafter, he

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > hibernated

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > two months, and came up with same falsehoods

> > again, mixed

> > > >

> > > > > > > > with

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > new

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lies

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and new abuses for me !! Then, I had to

spend

> > some time, and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > I

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sent

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > references from a lot of Puranas to expose

this

> > abusive

> > > >

> > > > > > > > liar,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > after

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > which will come again after some time with

same

> > falsehoods,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > feigning

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > forget all evidences provided so far by me.

And

> > he calls me

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > " an

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > incorrigible liar " . Here are the proofs

which

> > will convince

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > everyone

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that he does not know Sanskrit and cites

> > scriptures wrongly,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > too

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > haughty to admit his errors.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two months ago, I sent him reference from

Vishnu

> > Purana,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > which

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > says

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " maasair-dvaadashab hir-varsham- ahoraatram

tu

> > tat divi

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tribhir-varsha- shatair-varsham shashtyaa

> > > >

> > > > > > > > chaiva-asuradvishaa

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > m " (Amsha- vi,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > chapter-3, verse 10)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It means : " 12 (human) months are (equal to)

one

> > divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > day-night

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > /

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (and)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 360 (human) years are (equal to) one varsha

of

> > gods

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (=asuraodvishaam) . "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next verse says : " such 12000 yesrs are

equal to

> > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > chaturyuga.. . "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two months ago, I had explained this verse

word

> > by word

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > because

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mr

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not know Sanskrit, but he refused to

accept

> > such clear

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > verdict

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > called the yuga calculation of ancient sages

as

> > " my "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > invention

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > !

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two months ago, I also sent the following

prrof

> > from

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mahabharata

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (khanda

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5-chapter 231-verse15) :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ahoraatre vibhajate Suryau maanushalaukike "

,

> > which means

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > days

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > nights of manushya loka is made/divided by

> > Surya. Verse 17

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > says

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " Daive

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > raatryahanee varsham pravibhaagastayoh punah

,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ahastatrodagayanam

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > raatrih syad dakshinaayanam " : in which

" Daive

> > raatryahanee

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > varsham "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > means " (human) varsha is equal to day+night

of

> > gods " . Here

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > varsha is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > varsha of maanushalaukike which is to be

taken

> > from

> > > >

> > > > > > > > preceding

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > two

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > verses. Rest of verse 17 means " this daiva

> > day+night is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > divided

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > thus

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > uttara (ayana) is divine day and

dakshinaayana

> > is divine

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > night " .

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > MBh

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > clearly says that the maanushalaukika year

is

> > solar year :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > see

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > verse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 15

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > above which says that Sun divides/makes day

and

> > night in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > maanushalaukika

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (but not in devaloka). "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two months ago, I also sent evidences from

all

> > major ancient

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotisha

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Siddhantas :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ancient siddhantic texts invariably speak of

> > 4320000 solar

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > years

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mahayuga. For instance, in the first verse

of

> > Dashageetikaa

> > > >

> > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aryabhatiya, Sun's bhagana number per

(maha)yuga

> > is 4320000

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Earth's

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rotations are given to be 1582237500

(1582237828

> > in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Suryasiddhanta,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this minor difference being due to Sunrise

> > system of day

> > > >

> > > > > > > > count

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aryabhatiya in contrast to midnight system

of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Suryasiddhanta)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > .

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma-sphuta- siddhaanta( BSS) repeats the

> > mathematics of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mahabharata

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (MBh-v-231) in its first chapter verses 4-7,

in

> > which

> > > >

> > > > > > > > 4320000

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > normal

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > solar years of humans are said to make one

> > mahayuga (see

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > verses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 5-6)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1000 such mahayugas are said to make one

Kalpa

> > (BSS, ch-i,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > verse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 10).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, Suryasiddhanta, Aryabhatiya and

> > Brahma-sphuta-

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > siddhaanta

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > all

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > clearly say one mahayuga to be equal to

4320000

> > years and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > not

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 43200000

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > days as Mr Sunil wrongly tried to prove by

> > misquoting texts.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > His

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > stand

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is refuted by all these ancient texts :

> > Suryasiddhanta,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Aryabhatiya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma-sphuta- siddhaanta, Mahabharata,

Narada

> > Purana,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Vishnu

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dharmottara

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Purana, etc, all of which unanimously say

that

> > one mahayuga

> > > >

> > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4320000 years or 1582237828 days which is

equal

> > to 12000

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > divine

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > years.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can he put " 1582237828 sunrises " in only

> > 12000 " solar "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > years

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only this, Mr Sunil reads Hindu

scriptures

> > in reverse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > direction

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > like

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Urdu (from my message two months ago) :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vishnu Purana (Amsha-vi, chapter-3, verses

6-11)

> > clearly say

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 360

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " human " ( " maanusha " , see verse 6) years are

> > equal to one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > year

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12000 " divya " years constitute one

Chaturyuga

> > (ie,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Mahayuga).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > same thing is repeated in Vishnu Purana

> > (Amsha-i, chapter-3,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > verses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8-14), with clarification that four yugas of

a

> > Chaturyuga

> > > >

> > > > > > > > have

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lengths

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 4800, 3600, 2400 and 1200 divya years.

The

> > sequence of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > yugas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyuga, Treta, Dvaapara and Kaliyuga, which

> > means duration

> > > >

> > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Satyuga

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is 4800, Treta 3600, Dvaapara 2400 and

Kaliyuga

> > 1200 " divya "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > years

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > according to Vishnu Purana. Why Mr Sunil

inverts

> > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > sequence

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > four

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > yugas of a Chaturyuga and read Kaliyuga as

4800

> > ? Even

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > schoolboys do

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > commit such blunders ! It is certainly a

result

> > of excessive

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > drinking,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > although he says that only two tolas of wine

> > should be taken

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > daily.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is his statement about Rgveda :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<< " I said that that the Rig Veda says

that we

> > are all

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > brothers.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Then

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to disprove what I said Vinay Jha did

research

> > and quoted

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > several

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > verses from the Rig Veda to show that

nowhere in

> > the Rig

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Veda

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > said

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that we are all brothers. Then I had to

quote

> > the exact

> > > >

> > > > > > > > verse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > where

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is said that we are all brothers and this

shows

> > that he

> > > >

> > > > > > > > missed

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > relevant verse. Such is his false

scholarship. "

> > >>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I answered : The verses he quoted from

Rgveda

> > said that " all

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > 49

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Marutas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are equal bhraatara " . If anyone imagines 49

> > Maruts to be

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > humans,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > born

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > simultaneously, it must be due to genetic

> > cloning in Rgvedic

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > times,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because no mortal woman can beget 49 sons at

a

> > time ! Why

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sunil

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhattacharjya reduces deities like Maruts to

> > mortals ?

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Rgveda

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > never

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > said

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " we are all brothers " . Sunil Bhattacharjya

is

> > lying. He

> > > >

> > > > > > > > should

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > cite

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > texts honestly and properly, and should read

> > scriptures

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > without

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > goblet

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in hand. A person incapable of understanding

> > simple Puranic

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sanskrit

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > simple english and Hindi translations of the

> > same should

> > > >

> > > > > > > > keep

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > away

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > from

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult language of Rgveda. Pandits say

that

> > 12 years are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > needed

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > by

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanskrit scholars to master one Veda !!

> > Now-a-days every

> > > >

> > > > > > > > fool

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > may

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > pose

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as a Vedic expert, citing verses from

internet

> > out of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > context.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > All above exchanges took place over two

months

> > ago, after

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > which

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > he

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > went

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > into hibernation because he could not refute

the

> > evidences,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > but

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > after

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > two months came up again, repeating his old

> > lies, believing

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > members

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > must have forgotten exchanges of two months

ago.

> > In this

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > connection,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > another scholar Shri Venkata Krishnan in his

own

> > forum also

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > cited

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > verses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from Matsya Purana :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<<

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matsya Purana, chapter-142, Slokas 11-15

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning: " Thirty yearsof men is one month

for

> > the Gods. A

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > century of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > men

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is three months and a few days of the Gods.

360

> > Human years

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > make

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > year of the Devas ( Gods). ... 3,60,000

Human

> > years make One

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thousand

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divine years. " ( This verse-12 is exactly

> > repeated in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Verses18-19 of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linga Purana cited below)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Mr Sunil answered : " Thank you for the

> > trouble takien.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Let

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > us

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > agree

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to disagree. I shall prefer to go by the

> > definition of Vayu

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > purana

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (57.17) " .

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Sunil told me in this group : " Vayu

purana

> > says that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Divyavarsha

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solar year and Manushya varsha is the

Sidereal

> > Lunar year. "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I said : " Vayu Purana or no ancient text

ever

> > said that. Ask

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > him

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > quote the verse verbatim. " In reply, I got

> > abuses.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, I had to send new evidences from a

lot of

> > Puranas as

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > shown

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > below,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and as expected he again refuses to accept

his

> > faults :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Proof of length of Divya Varsha, this time

from

> > Narada

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Purana,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > which

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > presents Ganita and Phalita portions of

Jyotisha

> > in more

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > details

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > than

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > any other Purana (Sage Sanaka says ) :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Rturmaasadvayena syaattatrayenaayana m

smritam

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tatdvyena bhavedabdah sa devaanaam dinam

bhavet "

> > (verse-24,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ch-5)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " uttaram divasam praahoo raatrirvai

> > dakshinaayanam " (forst

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > half

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > verse-25, ch-5)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verse 24 defines ayana in first half, and

then

> > says two

> > > >

> > > > > > > > ayanas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (uttaraayana and dakshinaayana) make one

year

> > (of humans)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > which

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " din " of the gods. Next line says that

> > uttaraayana is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > " divasa "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > while

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dakshinnayana is night (of gods).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same thing is said in Bhagavata Purana (and

in

> > Vishnu

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Purana,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suryasiddhanta, Brahmasiddhanta,

Aryabhatiya,

> > etc) , but SKB

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > says it

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vague !!! SKB does not know Sanskrit which

is

> > " vague " to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > him,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > hence

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is impossible to convince him what the

> > Puranas & c say.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chapter-5 of Koorma Purana says same thing :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verse-5 defines " maanusha " measure, and then

> > " maasa' is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > defined

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > same

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > verse. Then, verse-6 says :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " taih shadbhir-ayanam varsham dve-ayane

> > dakshinottare

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ayanam dakshinam ratrir-devaanaam uttaram

dinam "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " six (maanusha maasas) make up one ayana,

two

> > ayanas uttara

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > dakshina

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > make one year

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dakshina ayana is night and uttara (ayana)

is

> > day of gods. "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chapter-1 of Linga Purana (verse 9-10)

> > differentiates

> > > >

> > > > > > > > various

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > types

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varshas, and enumerates Divya and Maanusha,

> > among others, as

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > different

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > typres. It is clarified in chapter-3, verse

> > 15-16 which say

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > human

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > year is equal to one divya day-night. In

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > said

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " 30

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > years (of humans) constitute one divya

month " ,

> > the language

> > > >

> > > > > > > > is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > copy

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matsya Purana's definition of the same sent

by

> > me earlier

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ( " trinshadyaani tu varshaani divyo maasastu

sa

> > smritah " ).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verse-18-19 of Linga Purana repeats verse of

> > Matsya Purana :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Treeni varsha-shataat anyeva

shashti-varshaani

> > yaani tu

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > divyah samvatsaro hyesha maanushena

> > prakeertitah "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It means " 360 years of humans are equal to

one

> > divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > samvatsara " .

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Later verses in Linga Purana repeat the

verses

> > of matsya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Purana

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the length of Saptarshi Year, Dhruva Year,

etc.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now see Brahmaanda Purana which SKB needs so

> > much

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > (poorva-bhaaga

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > said by

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaayu) :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ch-6, verse 44-45 says Krityuga measures

4800

> > divya varshas,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > verse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 61-62

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > repeats same thing in changed words. but

actual

> > details are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > chapter-28 od second Anushamga of

Poorvabhaaga

> > said by Vayu

> > > >

> > > > > > > > :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like other Puranas, verse -5 says Maanusha

> > varsha is defined

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > on

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > basis of laukika pramaana, ie, solar year,

which

> > is the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > measure

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > year

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in this world. verse-7 clarifies it by saing

> > that Sun

> > > >

> > > > > > > > divides

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > day

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > night in maanusha-loka, and other measures

like

> > month and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > year

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > measured in terms of this solar measure.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verses 13-16 define divya dina and then

divya

> > varsha exactly

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > manner of Matsya and Linga Puranas, clearly

> > saying a divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > varsha to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > equal to 360 maanusha varshas in verse-16,

which

> > is an exact

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > replica

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matsya Purana.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now see Padma Purana , chapter-3, in the

words

> > of Sage

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pulastya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verse-7 says :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " dakshina ayana is night of gods and uttara

> > (ayana) is day

> > > >

> > > > > > > > (of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > gods) "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next verses say such 12000 divya varshas

make

> > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > chaturyuga.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Verses

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 15-

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > say that " one manvantara is equal to 852000

> > divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > (suraadinaam)

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > varshas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > which are equal to 306720000 human

(paarthiva)

> > years " : the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ratio is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 360 maanusha varshas in one divya varsha :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 852000 divya varshas =

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ashtau-shat- sahasraani- divyayaa-

samkhyayaa-

> > snritah /

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dvi-panchaashat- tathaa-anyaani- sahasraani-

> > adhikaanicha "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > (verse

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 15-16) ;

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > which are equal to 306720000 paarthiva

varshas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " trint-koti- astu-sampoornaah samkhyaataah

> > samkgyayaanrpa /

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sapta-shashtih- tathaa-anyaani- niyutaani-

> > mahaamate /

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vimshatishch- sahasraani- kaaloyamadhikamv

inaa

> > /

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > manvantarasya- samkhyaeyam- maanushairiha-

> > vatsareh / "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now see Vishnudharma Purana , ch-105 , in

which

> > Sage

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Shaunaka

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > says

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (about the kaalamaana he got by worshipping

> > Keshava) :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verse-14 defines dakshina ayana as night and

> > uttara ayana as

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > day

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > gods, and says one samvatsara (of humans) is

one

> > ahoraatra

> > > >

> > > > > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > gods.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then, Verse-15 says :

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Shatatrayena varshaanaam shashtyaa cha

> > Prithivipate

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manushya-samkhyayaa varsham devaanaam-api

> > ganyate "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > = " O Prithvipati (King Shataaneeka) ! 360

years

> > of humans

> > > >

> > > > > > > > are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varsha of Gods "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next line says " iti divyena maanena

> > chaturyuga-vikalpan aam "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ie,

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > chaturyuga (of 12000 divya years) is

measured in

> > this very

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > divya

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > year

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (of 360 human years) "

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXX

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhagavata purana (3.11.18 - 20) says in

verse 12

> > : " ayane

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > chaahanee

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > praahur-vatsaro dvaadasha smritah,

> > samvatsarshatam nrrnaam

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > paramaayur-nirupita m " , ie, the ayanas

> > (uttaraayana and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > dakshinaayana

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > described in preceding verse) are one day

(of

> > gods) but are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > called

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " varsha " or " dvaasha " (12 months) in the

loka of

> > nrrnaam

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (maanusha-loka) .

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Sunil Bhattacharya rejected all proofs

and

> > intensified

> > > >

> > > > > > > > his

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > abusive

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > attack on me. I cannot prevent him from

going

> > from one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > falsehood

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > another. But ancient texts must be cited

> > correctly. There

> > > >

> > > > > > > > are

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > some

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > scholars who believe that one divya varsha

> > should be equal

> > > >

> > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > solar

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > year, but they do not cite scriptures

falsely

> > like Mr Sunil

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhattacharjya to make their idea more

> > acceptable. Mr Sunil

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > makes

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > mess

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Saamkhya, Gita, Upanishada, Vedas,

Puranas

> > and Epics due

> > > >

> > > > > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > his

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lack

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of knowledge of Sanskrit and lack of proper

> > traning in

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > indological

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > studies, but instead of studying texts

properly

> > he starts

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > posing

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > as

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > an

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > expert in everything, from Veda to liquor.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Vinay Jha

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

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