Gulika

July 29, 2009

I have a simple solution or humble recommendation for that quandry sir! How

about just trying the first -- initial point and test in a few charts and see

where that lands you? Like Sri Nagarjuna approached astrology as? One

CON-FOUNDER at a time ...

vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

>

> Dear Rao ji,

> The similar line is toed by Phaldeepika and

> uttarkalamirta..

> There is absolutely no controversy on the first

> table drawn by you.

> In second table the learned Acharya indicated the values

> assuming the dinman or Ratriman as 30(thirty) ghatika.

> These value will give the middle point if we replace

> 30 ghatika with 32 ghatika.Then, every thing seems logical.

> The ghatikas given in your second table will then give the sputa's of the

middle points of the portions of respective planets.This was

> discussed in THE jAGANNATH hORA FOURUM,and JH-Hora

> program follows it.

> As portion of Saturn as a whole is called Gulika Kala and is

> considered as most fear some , the latter authorities reach

> to the consensus that the sphut of initial point may be considered

> as Gulika point. And Middle point of Gulika portion may be called

> as 'MANDI' point where maximum poison of this portion is concentrated.

>

> The question arises , the effect of placement of Gulika point are given in

many Jatak Grantha like , BPHS, pRASANMARG , PHALDEEPIKA and so on. If we take

Gulika , the initial point of gulika portion,the effects will be mild and if we

take Mandi point , the effects will be very harsh and much more evil compared to

the

> placement of Gulika (initial) point.

> In all fareness Gulkesa should be the planet which is the dispositor

> of Mandi ,repeat, Mandi point.

> As portions of all planets follow consecutively in the zodiac,

> the bad effect of Gulika portion will ONLY be felt when a planet is located in

gulika portion like zodical signs.The rule of conjuction will not apply.

> Regards,

>

> G.K..GOEL

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> ________________________________

> Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao

> revati_energetics_true_vedic_astrology

> Thursday, 30 July, 2009 12:58:25 AM

> Re: [revati_energetics_true_vedic_astrology] Note on Kaala Vela

calculation

>

> Dear Revati Ji,and other members of this list,

> I have culled some important informations from ancient texts regarding Gulika

Kala/Vela and Mandi.Please go through this article and check whether the

calculations given here will match with JH software.

> GULIKA KALA and MANDI

> Here is a Shloka regarding Gulika Kala which should be avoided during

auspicious celeberations- Muhurta :

à¤¨à¤¿à¤°à¥‚à¤ªà¥à¤¯à¤¤à¥‡à¥¤

> ravivÄrÄdiÅ›anyantaá¹ gulikÄdi nirÅ«pyate|

> divasÄnaá¹£á¹adhÄ bhaktvÄ vÄreÅ›Äd gaá¹‡ayet kramÄt|

> To find out the Gulika Kala from Sunday to Saturday, we have to divide the day

into 8 parts.For 1st part,the day Lord becomes the Lord.Then for other

parts,consecutively other day Lords becomes Lords.So 8th part will not have any

Lord.So this is a part of the day without any planetary Lord.

> aá¹£á¹amÄá¹Å›o nirÄ«Å›aá¸¥syÄt Å›yanyaá¹to gulikaá¸¥ smrutaá¸¥ |

> rÄtrimapyaá¹£á¹adhÄ krutvÄ vÄreÅ›Ät paá¹camÄditaá¸¥ |

> Meaning in a day time,the 8th portion of Shani is called Gulika

Kala.Similarly we have to divide the night duration into 8 parts.Then for the

1st portion,5th day lord from that day will become the Lord of that portion.So

similarly the 8th portion will not have any day Lord.

à¤ªà¤°à¤¿à¤•à¥€à¤°à¥à¤¤à¤¿à¤¤à¤ƒà¥¤

à¤—à¥à¤°à¥à¤µà¤‚à¤¶à¥‹ à¤¯à¤®à¤•à¤‚à¤Ÿà¤•à¤ƒà¥¤

> gaá¹‡ayedaá¹£á¹amaá¸¥ khaná¸o niá¹£patiá¸¥ parikÄ«rtitaá¸¥|

> Å›anyaá¹Å›o gulikaá¸¥ prokto ravyaá¹Å›aá¸¥ kÄlasaá¹jnakaá¸¥ ||

> bhaumÄá¹Å›o mrutyurÄdiá¹£á¹o gurvaá¹Å›o yamakaá¹á¹akaá¸¥|

> saumyÄá¹Å›o ardha prÄharakaá¸¥ svasvadeÅ›od bhavaá¸¥ sphuá¹aá¸¥ ||

> Meaning either in day time or night time,the 8th portion of Saturn is called

Gulika Kala,Sunâ€™s portion as Kala,Kuja/Marsâ€™ portion as Mrityu,Budha/

Mercuryâ€™s portion as Ardha Prahara,Guru/ Jupiterâ€™s portion is called as Yama

Kantaka.these have to be calculated as per each placeâ€™s day and night time

durations.

à¤µà¤¿à¤¨à¤¶à¥à¤¯à¤¤à¤¿à¥¥

> guliko nÄá¸ikÄ mÄtrasthÄyÄ« tyÄjyassvayatnataá¸¥|

> atastadudaye karmakrutaá¹ sarvaá¹ vinaÅ›yati||

> Meaning,Gulika Kala has to be avoided in all auspicious celebrations. Any

auspicious celebration done during Gulika Kala/Vela becomes a waste and will

remove all the good results of such auspicious function.

> Table of Gulika Kala

> Week Day Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday

> Ghatikas in day time 22 Â½ - 26 Â¼ 18 Â¾ - 22 Â½ 15 â€ " 18 Â¾ 11 Â¼ - 15

7 Â½ - 11 Â¼

> Ghatikas in Night time 7 Â½ - 11 1/4 3 Â¾ - 7 Â½ 0 - 3 Â¾ 22 Â½ - 26 Â¼

18 Â¾ - 22 Â½

>

> Week Day Friday Saturday

> Ghatikas in day time 3 Â¾ - 7 Â½ 0 â€ " 3 Â¾

> Ghatikas in Night 15 â€ " 18 Â¾ 11 Â¼ - 15

>

> Now let us see the calculations for Mandi.

à¤•à¥à¤°à¤®à¥‡à¤£à¤°à¥à¤•à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾à¤¤à¥à¥¤

à¤•à¤¾à¤°à¥à¤¯à¥Œ à¤¨à¤¿à¤¶à¤¾à¤¯à¤¾à¤‚ à¤¤à¥

> caraá¹ rudradÄsyaá¹ ghaá¹aá¹ nityatÄnaá¹ khanirmÄndi nÄá¸yaá¸¥

krameá¹‡arkavÄrÄt|

> aharmÄna vrudhdhiká¹£ayaua tatra kÄryau niÅ›ÄyÄá¹ tu

vÄreÅ›varÄtpaá¹camÄdyÄá¸¥ ||

> Meaning when the day duration and night duration is 30 Ghatikas, we have to

see Gulikaâ€™s rise starting from Sunday,from Sun rise,day rising Ghatika and

from Sun set,night rising Ghatikas and these are given in the following table :

> Mandi Rising Time in Ghatikas

> Week Day Day Duration Night Duration

> Sunday

> Monday

> Tuesday

> Wednesday

> Thursday

> Friday

> Saturday

>

> 26

> 22

> 18

> 14

> 10

> 6

> 2 10

> 6

> 2

> 26

> 22

> 18

> 14

>

> Please note that 1 Ghatika = 24 Mins.of time duration.

> I hope this helps all.

> With Regards,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> ________________________________

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> revati_energetics_ true_vedic_ astrology

> Tuesday, 28 July, 2009 12:14:34 PM

> [revati_energetics_ true_vedic_ astrology] Note on Kaala Vela

calculation

>

> Dear All,

>

> there are two calculation options regarding Kaala Velas:

> (1) Taking the starting point of the daily portion of the Graha, and

> (2) Taing the middle point of this portion.

>

> In Jagannatha Hora, the setting is " middle portion " - but you can change

> it to " beginning " .

> (Preferences -> Upagraha Calculation Options -> Kala, Mrityu rise at the

> ... (beginning))

>

> Taking the middle point is one view, if we see the 8 daily periods of

> the Grahas (not equal to the 12 planetary Horas!) as " fields " . As we

> know, the middle of a field is strongest, e.g. 15Â° in each Rashi is

> the strongest placement within this Rashi. This way one could interpret

> the 8 daily periods as fields, too, and compute the Kaala Velas to the

> middle of this period.

>

> For Saturn's daily period this would give " Gulika " for the starting

> point and " Mandi " for the middle point.

> Obviously in vedic astrology tradition some astrologers defined both as

> the same, others not.

>

> Sure is, who uses Mandi - the middle portion of Saturn - has to do so

> with all other planetary portions, too.

> Why taking only Saturn's middle portion, Mandi - and not all other six

> ones?

>

> There are *seven* Kaala Velas ( " co-Grahas " ) in summary.

>

> Nevertheless, BPHS teaches to take the starting point of the daily

> planetary 1/8 portion (the last portion is lordless, always). This makes

> sense, too:

>

> If we look at Dasha sequences, we see that in most Dashas the starting

> point of it is the " strongest one " ,

> e.g. if a Jupiter MD starts, the first AD is of Jupiter, too (and PD,

> SD). Or Taurus MD, start, first AD of Taurus.

> With this perspective the beginning of a period is stronger (full

> Jupiter, or Taurus influence, later other Graha and Rashi periods).

>

> As Kaala Velas are derived from *periods* it makes more sense in my view

> to take the starting point for Kaala Vela computation - and BPHS teaches

> exactly this.

>

> Best Regards,

> Revati

>

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