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I get a difference of about 1 degree in the calculation of the nodes between

Parashara's Light and Jagannath Hora. Jagannath hora also has this same

difference with my ephemeris. This calculations for the other planets and the

ascendant seem to be the same.

 

Could anyone explain how this is happening? Any ideas?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Dharma/Dean

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Please check what Preferences you have chosen for both the Softwares. Is

it Mean in one and True in another ? If same, then calculate manually

from a Ephemeris . Also check the ayanamsha settings . Also check other

settings and inputs of the place - Longitude. Rahu is a slow moving

planet and there cannot be so much difference between these softwares

unless some Settings are not to the mark. If you do not know how to

calculate manually pl. mention the details of the Birth , I will do it

here itself for you.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " deandddd " <deandddd wrote:

>

> List Members,

>

> I get a difference of about 1 degree in the calculation of the nodes

between Parashara's Light and Jagannath Hora. Jagannath hora also has

this same difference with my ephemeris. This calculations for the other

planets and the ascendant seem to be the same.

>

> Could anyone explain how this is happening? Any ideas?

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Dharma/Dean

>

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Dear Bhaskar,

 

You hit the nail on the head. The Jagannath Hora was set for Mean Nodes, and not

true nodes.

 

But what a difference, one full degree! How could Mean Nodes ever be useful if

it can be so far off? Why is this mean calculation used?

 

Dharma/Dean

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Please check what Preferences you have chosen for both the Softwares. Is

> it Mean in one and True in another ? If same, then calculate manually

> from a Ephemeris . Also check the ayanamsha settings . Also check other

> settings and inputs of the place - Longitude. Rahu is a slow moving

> planet and there cannot be so much difference between these softwares

> unless some Settings are not to the mark. If you do not know how to

> calculate manually pl. mention the details of the Birth , I will do it

> here itself for you.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " deandddd " <deandddd@> wrote:

> >

> > List Members,

> >

> > I get a difference of about 1 degree in the calculation of the nodes

> between Parashara's Light and Jagannath Hora. Jagannath hora also has

> this same difference with my ephemeris. This calculations for the other

> planets and the ascendant seem to be the same.

> >

> > Could anyone explain how this is happening? Any ideas?

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> > Dharma/Dean

> >

>

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Dear Dharma,

 

Every calculation has a use. For instance we know something as " Sunrise "

and something as " Sunset " which is actually not true since the Sun is

always there in the sky and never goes away. But with reference to the

place for which study is made, we need to know when it was first sighted

at the horizon. This position being known as " Sunrise " which helps in

extending the other calculations.

 

There are many astrologers who like me use only Mean Values, while

others who use True ones. Both are important for various applications.

In fact for higher Trignometrical calculations True ones are used, while

for normal study of charts astrologers like me prefer to use the Mean

Values.

 

The Jagannath Hora is one of the best in the world and one can safely

use it without any worries or issues.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " deandddd " <deandddd wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar,

>

> You hit the nail on the head. The Jagannath Hora was set for Mean

Nodes, and not true nodes.

>

> But what a difference, one full degree! How could Mean Nodes ever be

useful if it can be so far off? Why is this mean calculation used?

>

> Dharma/Dean

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Please check what Preferences you have chosen for both the

Softwares. Is

> > it Mean in one and True in another ? If same, then calculate

manually

> > from a Ephemeris . Also check the ayanamsha settings . Also check

other

> > settings and inputs of the place - Longitude. Rahu is a slow moving

> > planet and there cannot be so much difference between these

softwares

> > unless some Settings are not to the mark. If you do not know how to

> > calculate manually pl. mention the details of the Birth , I will do

it

> > here itself for you.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " deandddd " <deandddd@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > List Members,

> > >

> > > I get a difference of about 1 degree in the calculation of the

nodes

> > between Parashara's Light and Jagannath Hora. Jagannath hora also

has

> > this same difference with my ephemeris. This calculations for the

other

> > planets and the ascendant seem to be the same.

> > >

> > > Could anyone explain how this is happening? Any ideas?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance,

> > >

> > > Dharma/Dean

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Bhaskar-ji,

 

Sunrise or sunset is tied in with the concept of 'bhavas' and rooms in a bhavan.

The kitchen is always there in the home (chart) but we head towards that only

when we need to eat (or a little before it), likewise we head to the library

when we need to read, although the room is always there and so too the books

therein. Let me not over-illustrate with references to other rooms in the house

which each have their vital purpose and need when the need arises!

 

Likewise, sunrise, the rising bhava and the sunset the setting bhava -- each

very essential and appropriate but not something to be kept in focus all the

time because truth be told, each of the 12 rooms in this house that God has

gifted each of us with in a given lifetime must be gratefully recieved and taken

care of, kept clean and so on!

 

Obviously, some of these 'rooms' will hold our attention more than others and

perhaps we would prefer to keep the library better attended than some of the

other 'rooms' but that is what makes us human and unbalanced! And purushartha

and free-will prompts us to get beyond natural impulses and through focusing on

personal effort and niyama to deliberately focus on the rooms that would tend to

remain neglected and to make sure that most of our days remain 'balanced' and

with each day or most days spent thus, a lifetime becomes balanced as well!

 

Of course I am preaching to the converted and as everyone knows, I am no

preacher!

 

Best regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

vedic astrology , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Dear Dharma,

>

> Every calculation has a use. For instance we know something as " Sunrise "

> and something as " Sunset " which is actually not true since the Sun is

> always there in the sky and never goes away. But with reference to the

> place for which study is made, we need to know when it was first sighted

> at the horizon. This position being known as " Sunrise " which helps in

> extending the other calculations.

>

> There are many astrologers who like me use only Mean Values, while

> others who use True ones. Both are important for various applications.

> In fact for higher Trignometrical calculations True ones are used, while

> for normal study of charts astrologers like me prefer to use the Mean

> Values.

>

> The Jagannath Hora is one of the best in the world and one can safely

> use it without any worries or issues.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " deandddd " <deandddd@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar,

> >

> > You hit the nail on the head. The Jagannath Hora was set for Mean

> Nodes, and not true nodes.

> >

> > But what a difference, one full degree! How could Mean Nodes ever be

> useful if it can be so far off? Why is this mean calculation used?

> >

> > Dharma/Dean

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Please check what Preferences you have chosen for both the

> Softwares. Is

> > > it Mean in one and True in another ? If same, then calculate

> manually

> > > from a Ephemeris . Also check the ayanamsha settings . Also check

> other

> > > settings and inputs of the place - Longitude. Rahu is a slow moving

> > > planet and there cannot be so much difference between these

> softwares

> > > unless some Settings are not to the mark. If you do not know how to

> > > calculate manually pl. mention the details of the Birth , I will do

> it

> > > here itself for you.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " deandddd " <deandddd@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > List Members,

> > > >

> > > > I get a difference of about 1 degree in the calculation of the

> nodes

> > > between Parashara's Light and Jagannath Hora. Jagannath hora also

> has

> > > this same difference with my ephemeris. This calculations for the

> other

> > > planets and the ascendant seem to be the same.

> > > >

> > > > Could anyone explain how this is happening? Any ideas?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance,

> > > >

> > > > Dharma/Dean

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Rohina Da, Allow me to address you as such. I consider you as my

own elder one though distances may be afar and we may never meet, but

all this does not matter on the realms of oneness and purity. But if You

do not approve then let me know in loving words. This is a fortunate

day for me on Krishna Janmashtami to receive a mail from your goodself

to me, after eons. Just yesterday I was complaining to our Dear

associate on phone, Shri Prafullaji, that I have many times communicated

to Shri RR ji on his personal id but he never writes back. But of course

this was a loving complaint and not a law makers. I hold you in high

esteem for speaking out the " Truths " many a times I have been witness

to, and adore your gentle subtle messages contained therein your

outbursts of English compositions which may not be comprehensible to

many due to your lofty standards of expressions. I have always also

admired your " inner convictions " and " strength " to fight against many

injustices and malpractises, which otherwise would be allowed to pass by

the more subservient silent audience who chose to be mum in face of

perpetrations of misued power and authority. Know this that I would

always love to be preached by your goodself and accept this with great

affections and a heart yearning for more, from a Exalted one like You.

Kind regards, Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan "

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar-ji,

>

> Sunrise or sunset is tied in with the concept of 'bhavas' and rooms in

a bhavan. The kitchen is always there in the home (chart) but we head

towards that only when we need to eat (or a little before it), likewise

we head to the library when we need to read, although the room is always

there and so too the books therein. Let me not over-illustrate with

references to other rooms in the house which each have their vital

purpose and need when the need arises!

>

> Likewise, sunrise, the rising bhava and the sunset the setting bhava

-- each very essential and appropriate but not something to be kept in

focus all the time because truth be told, each of the 12 rooms in this

house that God has gifted each of us with in a given lifetime must be

gratefully recieved and taken care of, kept clean and so on!

>

> Obviously, some of these 'rooms' will hold our attention more than

others and perhaps we would prefer to keep the library better attended

than some of the other 'rooms' but that is what makes us human and

unbalanced! And purushartha and free-will prompts us to get beyond

natural impulses and through focusing on personal effort and niyama to

deliberately focus on the rooms that would tend to remain neglected and

to make sure that most of our days remain 'balanced' and with each day

or most days spent thus, a lifetime becomes balanced as well!

>

> Of course I am preaching to the converted and as everyone knows, I am

no preacher!

>

> Best regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

> vedic astrology , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Dharma,

> >

> > Every calculation has a use. For instance we know something as

" Sunrise "

> > and something as " Sunset " which is actually not true since the Sun

is

> > always there in the sky and never goes away. But with reference to

the

> > place for which study is made, we need to know when it was first

sighted

> > at the horizon. This position being known as " Sunrise " which helps

in

> > extending the other calculations.

> >

> > There are many astrologers who like me use only Mean Values, while

> > others who use True ones. Both are important for various

applications.

> > In fact for higher Trignometrical calculations True ones are used,

while

> > for normal study of charts astrologers like me prefer to use the

Mean

> > Values.

> >

> > The Jagannath Hora is one of the best in the world and one can

safely

> > use it without any worries or issues.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " deandddd " <deandddd@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > >

> > > You hit the nail on the head. The Jagannath Hora was set for Mean

> > Nodes, and not true nodes.

> > >

> > > But what a difference, one full degree! How could Mean Nodes ever

be

> > useful if it can be so far off? Why is this mean calculation used?

> > >

> > > Dharma/Dean

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Please check what Preferences you have chosen for both the

> > Softwares. Is

> > > > it Mean in one and True in another ? If same, then calculate

> > manually

> > > > from a Ephemeris . Also check the ayanamsha settings . Also

check

> > other

> > > > settings and inputs of the place - Longitude. Rahu is a slow

moving

> > > > planet and there cannot be so much difference between these

> > softwares

> > > > unless some Settings are not to the mark. If you do not know how

to

> > > > calculate manually pl. mention the details of the Birth , I will

do

> > it

> > > > here itself for you.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " deandddd " <deandddd@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > List Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I get a difference of about 1 degree in the calculation of the

> > nodes

> > > > between Parashara's Light and Jagannath Hora. Jagannath hora

also

> > has

> > > > this same difference with my ephemeris. This calculations for

the

> > other

> > > > planets and the ascendant seem to be the same.

> > > > >

> > > > > Could anyone explain how this is happening? Any ideas?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in advance,

> > > > >

> > > > > Dharma/Dean

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Bhaskar-bhai,

 

I did see a few of your emails but thought that those were FYI items since

several others were cced and so did not think you would want all of those to

respond and spam you in a sense (in volume!). My apologies if it brushed you

negatively.

 

As long as you solemnly vow to not call me 'Didi', I am okay {they probably do

not realize that by attibuting the trailing 'i' to automatically indicate a

female, they would be mistaking many Sindhis and Italians as female names ;-)}

Because if you do that, I will have to change my name to 'Rahuranjan' as

suggested to someone recently!

 

I am glad to hear that at least a few times I have done the right thing and have

shown some inner convictions and strength!!

 

RR

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Rohina Da, Allow me to address you as such. I consider you as my

> own elder one though distances may be afar and we may never meet, but

> all this does not matter on the realms of oneness and purity. But if You

> do not approve then let me know in loving words. This is a fortunate

> day for me on Krishna Janmashtami to receive a mail from your goodself

> to me, after eons. Just yesterday I was complaining to our Dear

> associate on phone, Shri Prafullaji, that I have many times communicated

> to Shri RR ji on his personal id but he never writes back. But of course

> this was a loving complaint and not a law makers. I hold you in high

> esteem for speaking out the " Truths " many a times I have been witness

> to, and adore your gentle subtle messages contained therein your

> outbursts of English compositions which may not be comprehensible to

> many due to your lofty standards of expressions. I have always also

> admired your " inner convictions " and " strength " to fight against many

> injustices and malpractises, which otherwise would be allowed to pass by

> the more subservient silent audience who chose to be mum in face of

> perpetrations of misued power and authority. Know this that I would

> always love to be preached by your goodself and accept this with great

> affections and a heart yearning for more, from a Exalted one like You.

> Kind regards, Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan "

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar-ji,

> >

> > Sunrise or sunset is tied in with the concept of 'bhavas' and rooms in

> a bhavan. The kitchen is always there in the home (chart) but we head

> towards that only when we need to eat (or a little before it), likewise

> we head to the library when we need to read, although the room is always

> there and so too the books therein. Let me not over-illustrate with

> references to other rooms in the house which each have their vital

> purpose and need when the need arises!

> >

> > Likewise, sunrise, the rising bhava and the sunset the setting bhava

> -- each very essential and appropriate but not something to be kept in

> focus all the time because truth be told, each of the 12 rooms in this

> house that God has gifted each of us with in a given lifetime must be

> gratefully recieved and taken care of, kept clean and so on!

> >

> > Obviously, some of these 'rooms' will hold our attention more than

> others and perhaps we would prefer to keep the library better attended

> than some of the other 'rooms' but that is what makes us human and

> unbalanced! And purushartha and free-will prompts us to get beyond

> natural impulses and through focusing on personal effort and niyama to

> deliberately focus on the rooms that would tend to remain neglected and

> to make sure that most of our days remain 'balanced' and with each day

> or most days spent thus, a lifetime becomes balanced as well!

> >

> > Of course I am preaching to the converted and as everyone knows, I am

> no preacher!

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Dharma,

> > >

> > > Every calculation has a use. For instance we know something as

> " Sunrise "

> > > and something as " Sunset " which is actually not true since the Sun

> is

> > > always there in the sky and never goes away. But with reference to

> the

> > > place for which study is made, we need to know when it was first

> sighted

> > > at the horizon. This position being known as " Sunrise " which helps

> in

> > > extending the other calculations.

> > >

> > > There are many astrologers who like me use only Mean Values, while

> > > others who use True ones. Both are important for various

> applications.

> > > In fact for higher Trignometrical calculations True ones are used,

> while

> > > for normal study of charts astrologers like me prefer to use the

> Mean

> > > Values.

> > >

> > > The Jagannath Hora is one of the best in the world and one can

> safely

> > > use it without any worries or issues.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " deandddd " <deandddd@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > You hit the nail on the head. The Jagannath Hora was set for Mean

> > > Nodes, and not true nodes.

> > > >

> > > > But what a difference, one full degree! How could Mean Nodes ever

> be

> > > useful if it can be so far off? Why is this mean calculation used?

> > > >

> > > > Dharma/Dean

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Please check what Preferences you have chosen for both the

> > > Softwares. Is

> > > > > it Mean in one and True in another ? If same, then calculate

> > > manually

> > > > > from a Ephemeris . Also check the ayanamsha settings . Also

> check

> > > other

> > > > > settings and inputs of the place - Longitude. Rahu is a slow

> moving

> > > > > planet and there cannot be so much difference between these

> > > softwares

> > > > > unless some Settings are not to the mark. If you do not know how

> to

> > > > > calculate manually pl. mention the details of the Birth , I will

> do

> > > it

> > > > > here itself for you.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " deandddd " <deandddd@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > List Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I get a difference of about 1 degree in the calculation of the

> > > nodes

> > > > > between Parashara's Light and Jagannath Hora. Jagannath hora

> also

> > > has

> > > > > this same difference with my ephemeris. This calculations for

> the

> > > other

> > > > > planets and the ascendant seem to be the same.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could anyone explain how this is happening? Any ideas?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks in advance,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dharma/Dean

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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