Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Dear Jyotishis, I think I lack speaking skills which is affecting my social life. I made lot of friends with whom I am not in touch with, now. Recently I started avoiding making new friends because I know I wouldn't stay in touch with them. As long as I am in touch with any friend, the relation looks very great. I am not good at making conversations. Also, I think I lack in common sense (social skills people generally have when they become grown-ups). I am detached with politics in office / tactical moves people make against me in general. I do not notice these moves (something strikes to me but fades away in that second of time) and realize their intentions later. I wan't to be able to guess what people around me are upto, so as to avoid getting affected by any malice they intend on me. My DOB is 06-06-1978 at 3:15pm venkatagiri, Andhra pradesh. 13 56N and 79 35 E. Is there any curse in my chart with regards to my speaking / relation skills? I also see 3 planets in my 8th House. What are the implications of it? Also pls let me know any significant limitations / curses in my chart. Thanks in Advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Dear Seshagiri Babu, The problem of lacking communication skills is revealed by 2nd house Scorpio and it lord Mars. Secondly, kama-trikona (3-7-11 houses) do part a role, how we develop relationship. In your case, this trikona is occupied by merely natural malefics (Saturn, Mars and Gulika) without any shubh sambandha. So the problem may tease you through out life, whenever question of sustainable relationship arises. No doubt, from 8th house (Taurus); Mercury, Moon and Sun are casting aspect on 2nd house. And they are not assumed bad for articulation. But in my opinion, it is Mars who is playing a dominating role in obstructing amiable and sustainable communication skill. By nature, Mars is diagonally opposite to Mercury - naisargik karaka for speaking and writing. It renders the native non-tactical, straight forward, and somewhat harsh. In your case, 2nd lord Mars is conjoined with Saturn and having argala of evil Rahu. Mars with Saturn, (having its dispositor Sun in 8th) sometime gives inferiority complex concerning the significations of house(s) it rules (here 2nd and 7th). Note that Mars aspects second house (Scorpio) as well. On the other hand, Mercury is in navamsa of Mars and with Mars well. Mercury in navamsa of Mars or associated with Mars produces difficulties in socializing, speaking, writing and sometime interrupts academic career. Have you noticed that you are born on Tuesday - a day ruled by Mars. If you believe in uppay, do concentrate to appease Mars for overcoming speaking and socializing problem. Consult any experienced Pundit who could suggest your proper remedies. I'm not well versed in this forte. In my humble opinion it is not such a big issue. Do join any short course on communication skills or psychological councilling. Have friendship with marketing guys and cheer up. By the way, you do have good chart with strongly placed lagna lord Venus and Jupiter. The second part of life would be quite stable and considerably sustainable. But the parivartana (exchange) between 8th lord Venus and 9th lord Mercury enfeebles the horoscope. This combination may make you introvert and inclined towards occult studies. Association of 10th lord Sun and 11th lord Moon in 8th gives difficulties in professional rise, getting desirable earning and developing acquittance. I guess, your mode of work or department had changed during Saturn's transit into Leo and it would again in first quarter of 2010. Anyway. Before Saturn's dasa, your financial and social status will remain ordinary. Emergence of Saturn's dasa (from Dec. 2015) would uplift your life (despite it is in debilitated navamsa and with Mars). Yoga karaka Saturn with Mars is forming dhana yoga and enjoying powerful labh argala from Venus and Jupiter. Good luck, M. Imran -------- Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak Lagna 13 Li 06' 17.50 " Swathi 2 Li Cp - Sun 21 Ta 48' 11.99 " Rohini 4 Ta Cn BK Moon 28 Ta 49' 52.19 " Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi AK Mars 2 Le 17' 49.29 " Makha 1 Le Ar GK Mercury 12 Ta 06' 49.75 " Rohini 1 Ta Ar PK Jupiter 16 Ge 43' 34.13 " Aardra 4 Ge Pi PiK Venus 24 Ge 48' 12.55 " Punarvasu 2 Ge Ta AmK Saturn 1 Le 36' 00.44 " Makha 1 Le Ar DK Rahu 8 Vi 42' 55.12 " U.Pha. 4 Vi Pi MK Ketu 8 Pi 42' 55.12 " U.Bhaa. 2 Pi Vi - Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ Mnd / | | \ / \ Rah / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / Glk | | x Asc x Sat Mar | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 7 / \ | | / \ / \ | | x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / GL | |AL x x Ven Jup | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ket \ / Sun \ | | / HL \ / Moo Mer \ | +--------------+ Navamsa +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / HL \ / | | \ / \ / | |Jup Rah x Asc x | | / \ / \ | | / \ Mnd / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Mer \ 10 / \ | | / \ / \ | | AL Mar x Glk | | \ / \ / | | \ Sat / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ven GL x Sun x Ket Moo | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | +--------------+ vedic astrology , " Seshagiri Babu K.V. " <telugu_guy_gemini wrote: > > Dear Jyotishis, > I think I lack speaking skills which is affecting my social life. I made lot of friends with whom I am not in touch with, now. Recently I started avoiding making new friends because I know I wouldn't stay in touch with them. As long as I am in touch with any friend, the relation looks very great. I am not good at making conversations. > Also, I think I lack in common sense (social skills people generally have when they become grown-ups). I am detached with politics in office / tactical moves people make against me in general. I do not notice these moves (something strikes to me but fades away in that second of time) and realize their intentions later. I wan't to be able to guess what people around me are upto, so as to avoid getting affected by any malice they intend on me. > > My DOB is 06-06-1978 at 3:15pm venkatagiri, Andhra pradesh. 13 56N and 79 35 E. > > Is there any curse in my chart with regards to my speaking / relation skills? I also see 3 planets in my 8th House. What are the implications of it? Also pls let me know any significant limitations / curses in my chart. > > Thanks in Advance. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Dear Imran Ji Your observation " By nature, Mars is diagonally opposite to Mercury - naisargik karaka for speaking and writing. It renders the native non-tactical, straight forward, and somewhat harsh. " is very accurate in my case,considering the feedback/advise I get from friends. They ask me to be a bit tactful in my communications, avoid being straight forward thereby avoiding giving the impression of being harsh. I'll certainly take your point on that and try to do remedies to appease Mars. I'll take your suggestion on joining soft skills training and making friends with marketing guys (whom I usually do not like communicating with as these guys usually talk about 100 topics in 10mins or 1 boring topic for 100 mins ) ) With my little knowlege of Astrology, Mars being diagonally opposite to Mercury makes sense to me. Your other observation " But the parivartana (exchange) between 8th lord Venus and 9th lord Mercury enfeebles the horoscope. This combination may make you introvert and inclined towards occult studies. " is also true. Its been 2.5yrs now since I came to know about Astrology (Earlier all I knew about Astrology was that " its fake " , as I heard lot of people around me say so, without actually knowing details). In these 2.5yrs I really struggled hard to learn Astrology, trying to balance my profession and other commitments, but am not able to move an inch forward, inspite of time/resources being there. I read a lot of details. The details make sense to me, but I am not able to apply them or learn (at remember) anything. I also started feeling that due to my lack of communication skills or relation skills I am not able to become a good Disciple inspite of few jyotish gurus ready to teach (online) / offer lessons. I am hopeful things will improve for me. Thanks, Seshu. ________________________________ astroimran <astroimran vedic astrology Fri, November 20, 2009 10:02:44 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Need astro help to improve my relations  Dear Seshagiri Babu, The problem of lacking communication skills is revealed by 2nd house Scorpio and it lord Mars. Secondly, kama-trikona (3-7-11 houses) do part a role, how we develop relationship. In your case, this trikona is occupied by merely natural malefics (Saturn, Mars and Gulika) without any shubh sambandha. So the problem may tease you through out life, whenever question of sustainable relationship arises. No doubt, from 8th house (Taurus); Mercury, Moon and Sun are casting aspect on 2nd house. And they are not assumed bad for articulation. But in my opinion, it is Mars who is playing a dominating role in obstructing amiable and sustainable communication skill. By nature, Mars is diagonally opposite to Mercury - naisargik karaka for speaking and writing. It renders the native non-tactical, straight forward, and somewhat harsh. In your case, 2nd lord Mars is conjoined with Saturn and having argala of evil Rahu. Mars with Saturn, (having its dispositor Sun in 8th) sometime gives inferiority complex concerning the significations of house(s) it rules (here 2nd and 7th). Note that Mars aspects second house (Scorpio) as well. On the other hand, Mercury is in navamsa of Mars and with Mars well. Mercury in navamsa of Mars or associated with Mars produces difficulties in socializing, speaking, writing and sometime interrupts academic career. Have you noticed that you are born on Tuesday - a day ruled by Mars. If you believe in uppay, do concentrate to appease Mars for overcoming speaking and socializing problem. Consult any experienced Pundit who could suggest your proper remedies. I'm not well versed in this forte. In my humble opinion it is not such a big issue. Do join any short course on communication skills or psychological councilling. Have friendship with marketing guys and cheer up. By the way, you do have good chart with strongly placed lagna lord Venus and Jupiter. The second part of life would be quite stable and considerably sustainable. But the parivartana (exchange) between 8th lord Venus and 9th lord Mercury enfeebles the horoscope. This combination may make you introvert and inclined towards occult studies. Association of 10th lord Sun and 11th lord Moon in 8th gives difficulties in professional rise, getting desirable earning and developing acquittance. I guess, your mode of work or department had changed during Saturn's transit into Leo and it would again in first quarter of 2010. Anyway. Before Saturn's dasa, your financial and social status will remain ordinary. Emergence of Saturn's dasa (from Dec. 2015) would uplift your life (despite it is in debilitated navamsa and with Mars). Yoga karaka Saturn with Mars is forming dhana yoga and enjoying powerful labh argala from Venus and Jupiter. Good luck, M. Imran -------- Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak Lagna 13 Li 06' 17.50 " Swathi 2 Li Cp - Sun 21 Ta 48' 11.99 " Rohini 4 Ta Cn BK Moon 28 Ta 49' 52.19 " Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi AK Mars 2 Le 17' 49.29 " Makha 1 Le Ar GK Mercury 12 Ta 06' 49.75 " Rohini 1 Ta Ar PK Jupiter 16 Ge 43' 34.13 " Aardra 4 Ge Pi PiK Venus 24 Ge 48' 12.55 " Punarvasu 2 Ge Ta AmK Saturn 1 Le 36' 00.44 " Makha 1 Le Ar DK Rahu 8 Vi 42' 55.12 " U.Pha. 4 Vi Pi MK Ketu 8 Pi 42' 55.12 " U.Bhaa. 2 Pi Vi - Rasi +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + | \ / \ Mnd / | | \ / \ Rah / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / Glk | | x Asc x Sat Mar | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 7 / \ | | / \ / \ | | x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / GL | |AL x x Ven Jup | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ket \ / Sun \ | | / HL \ / Moo Mer \ | +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + Navamsa +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / HL \ / | | \ / \ / | |Jup Rah x Asc x | | / \ / \ | | / \ Mnd / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Mer \ 10 / \ | | / \ / \ | | AL Mar x Glk | | \ / \ / | | \ Sat / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ven GL x Sun x Ket Moo | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + vedic astrology, " Seshagiri Babu K.V. " <telugu_guy_ gemini@.. .> wrote: > > Dear Jyotishis, > I think I lack speaking skills which is affecting my social life. I made lot of friends with whom I am not in touch with, now. Recently I started avoiding making new friends because I know I wouldn't stay in touch with them. As long as I am in touch with any friend, the relation looks very great. I am not good at making conversations. > Also, I think I lack in common sense (social skills people generally have when they become grown-ups). I am detached with politics in office / tactical moves people make against me in general. I do not notice these moves (something strikes to me but fades away in that second of time) and realize their intentions later. I wan't to be able to guess what people around me are upto, so as to avoid getting affected by any malice they intend on me. > > My DOB is 06-06-1978 at 3:15pm venkatagiri, Andhra pradesh. 13 56N and 79 35 E. > > Is there any curse in my chart with regards to my speaking / relation skills? I also see 3 planets in my 8th House. What are the implications of it? Also pls let me know any significant limitations / curses in my chart. > > Thanks in Advance. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 /*klim krishna klim*/ Dear Seshu, I had quite similar problems. Also had Moon in eigth house and malefics in kendra - this is the impact of this yoga - Moon shows socialization. Adding to woes: Mars and Shani are forming yama yoga and because its includes seventh lord from Moon the situation is like described. Normally Shani dasa is very bad in those cases, debilitated grahas doesnt bode well in third from lagnesh, due to the yuti with strong Mars the 2nd part will be better. Ketu in Meena is the way out - seventh lord from Moon controls what you are describing - maybe Jyotish consultations/helping people with spiritualism will be your bridge with friends and society. Sri Narayana mantra is for the Moon. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- /*Consultations & Pages* http://rohinaa.com rafal/ Seshagiri Babu K.V. pisze: > > > Dear Imran Ji > Your observation " By nature, Mars is diagonally opposite to Mercury - > naisargik karaka for speaking and writing. It renders the native > non-tactical, straight forward, and somewhat harsh. " is very accurate > in my case,considering the feedback/advise I get from friends. They > ask me to be a bit tactful in my communications, avoid being straight > forward thereby avoiding giving the impression of being harsh. > > I'll certainly take your point on that and try to do remedies to > appease Mars. I'll take your suggestion on joining soft skills > training and making friends with marketing guys (whom I usually do not > like communicating with as these guys usually talk about 100 topics > in 10mins or 1 boring topic for 100 mins ) ) > > With my little knowlege of Astrology, Mars being diagonally opposite > to Mercury makes sense to me. > > Your other observation " But the parivartana (exchange) between 8th > lord Venus and 9th lord Mercury enfeebles the horoscope. This > combination may make you introvert and inclined towards occult > studies. " is also true. > > Its been 2.5yrs now since I came to know about Astrology (Earlier all > I knew about Astrology was that " its fake " , as I heard lot of people > around me say so, without actually knowing details). In these 2.5yrs I > really struggled hard to learn Astrology, trying to balance my > profession and other commitments, but am not able to move an inch > forward, inspite of time/resources being there. I read a lot of > details. The details make sense to me, but I am not able to apply them > or learn (at remember) anything. I also started feeling that due to my > lack of communication skills or relation skills I am not able to > become a good Disciple inspite of few jyotish gurus ready to teach > (online) / offer lessons. I am hopeful things will improve for me. > > Thanks, > Seshu. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astroimran <astroimran <astroimran%40>> > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > Fri, November 20, 2009 10:02:44 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Need astro help to improve my relations > > > Dear Seshagiri Babu, > > The problem of lacking communication skills is revealed by 2nd house > Scorpio and it lord Mars. Secondly, kama-trikona (3-7-11 houses) do > part a role, how we develop relationship. In your case, this trikona > is occupied by merely natural malefics (Saturn, Mars and Gulika) > without any shubh sambandha. So the problem may tease you through out > life, whenever question of sustainable relationship arises. > > No doubt, from 8th house (Taurus); Mercury, Moon and Sun are casting > aspect on 2nd house. And they are not assumed bad for articulation. > But in my opinion, it is Mars who is playing a dominating role in > obstructing amiable and sustainable communication skill. By nature, > Mars is diagonally opposite to Mercury - naisargik karaka for speaking > and writing. It renders the native non-tactical, straight forward, and > somewhat harsh. In your case, 2nd lord Mars is conjoined with Saturn > and having argala of evil Rahu. Mars with Saturn, (having its > dispositor Sun in 8th) sometime gives inferiority complex concerning > the significations of house(s) it rules (here 2nd and 7th). Note that > Mars aspects second house (Scorpio) as well. On the other hand, > Mercury is in navamsa of Mars and with Mars well. Mercury in navamsa > of Mars or associated with Mars produces difficulties in socializing, > speaking, writing and sometime interrupts academic career. Have you > noticed that > you are born on Tuesday - a day ruled by Mars. > > If you believe in uppay, do concentrate to appease Mars for overcoming > speaking and socializing problem. Consult any experienced Pundit who > could suggest your proper remedies. I'm not well versed in this forte. > In my humble opinion it is not such a big issue. Do join any short > course on communication skills or psychological councilling. Have > friendship with marketing guys and cheer up. > > By the way, you do have good chart with strongly placed lagna lord > Venus and Jupiter. The second part of life would be quite stable and > considerably sustainable. > > But the parivartana (exchange) between 8th lord Venus and 9th lord > Mercury enfeebles the horoscope. This combination may make you > introvert and inclined towards occult studies. Association of 10th > lord Sun and 11th lord Moon in 8th gives difficulties in professional > rise, getting desirable earning and developing acquittance. I guess, > your mode of work or department had changed during Saturn's transit > into Leo and it would again in first quarter of 2010. Anyway. Before > Saturn's dasa, your financial and social status will remain ordinary. > Emergence of Saturn's dasa (from Dec. 2015) would uplift your life > (despite it is in debilitated navamsa and with Mars). Yoga karaka > Saturn with Mars is forming dhana yoga and enjoying powerful labh > argala from Venus and Jupiter. > > Good luck, > M. Imran > > -------- > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak > > Lagna 13 Li 06' 17.50 " Swathi 2 Li Cp - > Sun 21 Ta 48' 11.99 " Rohini 4 Ta Cn BK > Moon 28 Ta 49' 52.19 " Mrigasira 2 Ta Vi AK > Mars 2 Le 17' 49.29 " Makha 1 Le Ar GK > Mercury 12 Ta 06' 49.75 " Rohini 1 Ta Ar PK > Jupiter 16 Ge 43' 34.13 " Aardra 4 Ge Pi PiK > Venus 24 Ge 48' 12.55 " Punarvasu 2 Ge Ta AmK > Saturn 1 Le 36' 00.44 " Makha 1 Le Ar DK > Rahu 8 Vi 42' 55.12 " U.Pha. 4 Vi Pi MK > Ketu 8 Pi 42' 55.12 " U.Bhaa. 2 Pi Vi - > > Rasi > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > | \ / \ Mnd / | > | \ / \ Rah / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / Glk | > | x Asc x Sat Mar | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 7 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | x | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / GL | > |AL x x Ven Jup | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Ket \ / Sun \ | > | / HL \ / Moo Mer \ | > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > Navamsa > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / HL \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Jup Rah x Asc x | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ Mnd / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Mer \ 10 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | AL Mar x Glk | > | \ / \ / | > | \ Sat / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Ven GL x Sun x Ket Moo | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > vedic astrology, " Seshagiri Babu K.V. " > <telugu_guy_ gemini@.. .> wrote: > > > > Dear Jyotishis, > > I think I lack speaking skills which is affecting my social life. I > made lot of friends with whom I am not in touch with, now. Recently I > started avoiding making new friends because I know I wouldn't stay in > touch with them. As long as I am in touch with any friend, the > relation looks very great. I am not good at making conversations. > > Also, I think I lack in common sense (social skills people generally > have when they become grown-ups). I am detached with politics in > office / tactical moves people make against me in general. I do not > notice these moves (something strikes to me but fades away in that > second of time) and realize their intentions later. I wan't to be able > to guess what people around me are upto, so as to avoid getting > affected by any malice they intend on me. > > > > My DOB is 06-06-1978 at 3:15pm venkatagiri, Andhra pradesh. 13 56N > and 79 35 E. > > > > Is there any curse in my chart with regards to my speaking / > relation skills? I also see 3 planets in my 8th House. What are the > implications of it? Also pls let me know any significant limitations / > curses in my chart. > > > > Thanks in Advance. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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