Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Dear Gopal Goel, Pleased to read your worthy piece of writing and classical quotes. About 5 or 6 years back, we've discussed the same issue on this forum. Then a very learned friend, Anilkumar Kedia (aokedia), shared some classical references from BPHS & JP. I don't know why Sarajit Podder, Chandrashekhar, Nitin, Anil Kedia, Sunil John, Gorangadas, Ramadasarao, Partha Sarathy, Narayana Iyer, left writing for online groups. Even P.V.R. Narasimharo Rao appears rarely... Missing them all... Anyway, following clues may help new learners to understand aspects of lunar nodes while prognosticating. Sincerely, M. Imran ===================================================== CLASSICAL REFERENCES TO THE ASPECTS OF RAHU AND KETU ===================================================== BPHS, Chapter 9, verses 7-11: Grahas (any Graha) in the 12th house will be the source of a short life, specifically the luminaries (Sun and Moon), Venus, and Rahu. But the aspect of these four planets (on the 12th house) will counteract such evils. " BPHS, Chapter 30, verse 38: 38. If Rahu is in the 7th or the 12th from Ascendant Pada (AL) or gives an aspect to one of the said houses, the native will be endowed with spiritual knowledge and be very fortunate. BPHS 33, 36: Ketu's aspect on the 5th from Karakamsha will cause dysentery and other diseases caused by (impure) water. BPHS: 33, 50: If Saturn and Rahu give an aspect to, or occupy, the 9th from Karakamsha, one will betray his elders and be averse to ancient learning. JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 87: 87. When the Moon in conjunction with a malefic planet occupies the sign occupied by the lord of the 8th bhava and when the last mentioned planet is aspected by Rahu, the person born will suffer from a disease affecting the privities. JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 97 When Saturn in conjunction with Mars occupies the 6th bhava, and is aspected by the Sun and Rahu, and when the lord of the Ascendant is without strength, the result will be a lingering illness. JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 50 If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Rahu, the person born will be a poor man. JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 51: If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Ketu, the person born will be a minister of a king. JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52 When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Rahu, the person born will be a beggar. JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52: When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Ketu, the persons born will be a lord. JAIMINI SUTRAM: 1, 7: 7. When the Sun, Rahu and Venus occupy or aspect the twelfth from Arudha lagna the expenditure or losses arise because of the governmental action. JATAKA PARIJATA: 3, 42: When Mars occupies the Ascendant being aspected by Rahu, the person born will have a cord coiled round his body. JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 4: 4. Even though Jupiter may occupy the Ascendant, if the Moon be in the 8th, the 12th or the 6th bhava and be aspected by the malefic planet Rahu, the child meets with death. JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59: 59. When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected by Rahu, and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets, the newborn child dies at once. JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59 When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected by Rahu, and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets and the lord of the rising sign is in his exaltation, the life of the child is 19 years. ================================================================== vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > THERE IS A NICE DISCUSSIONS ON DUAL LORDSHIP > ANS ASPECTS OF NODES. > > first of all ,I will give references as available in BPHS: > > Ch 35 of Sitaram Jha and ch 36 -'YOGA KARKAS ADHYA'- > in both versions slokas 16 and 17 on nodes: > Sl16-The shadowy planets( Rahu and Ketu) give predominantly > the effects of the lord of the house with whom they are in conjunction or > of the house in which they are placed. > Sl 17-If the Tamograha are situated in an angle or a trine , and are in conjunction with > or are aspected by the trinal lord or Angular lord respectively , then they become yogakarka. > THESE TWO SLOKA(S) ARE GIVEN IN LAGHU PARASARI ALSO. > Laghu Parasari gives one additional sloka: > SL-36- If rahu and ketu are placed in auspicious houses , even if they are not > in sambandha (as explained in sloka 17 above) , they will GIVE yogakarka resuts according to > sub-periods. > Analysis of above three slokas clearly reveals that Node's aspects are not assigned > any role while considering their effects and neither their lordship. > > The question therefore arises what is the function of their lordship and aspects which > are revealed in BPHS at a latter stage . Obviously these will used in the reference and > context where these are mentioned . These are not for general or universal use. > > Ch 47 Sloka 106 of Sitaram Jha version ,and ch 48 Sloka 157 of G C Sharma version of > Bphs under the heading -DASA Adhaya- > In the context of ascertaining sign dasas, it is mentioned: > " Scorpio sign has two lordship of two planets namely Mars and Ketu and Aquarius sign > of Saturn and Rahu, " > The purpose is well defined. > > Ch-48 of sitaram version and chapter 49 of Sharma version -in Dasaphal Adya - of BPHS > sloka 34,35and 36 , it is mentioned: > " For accessing dasa results (these sloka are mentioned in the context of NAKSHATRA DASAS > MORE PARTICULARLY VIMSOTTARI DASA),the exaltation signs of Rahu and ketu are Taurus > and Scorpio.Mool trikona are Gemini and Sagittarius.Own signs are Aquarius and Scorpio. > Some also say Virgo and Pisces. " > Bphs used the lordships of nodes for accessing marka potential.This can be ascertained > where parasara elaborated dasa and antardasa results in nine separate chapters. > > On aspects of Rahu , BPHS version published from Bombay in 1989 , Khemraj Shrikrishnadasa, > in Ch 47 sloka 26 on page 498 , it is mentioned: > Rahu has full aspects on 5,7 and 9 houses, half aspect on 2and 10 houses and quarter > aspect on 3 and 6 houses and considered as blind for the house in which it is placed. " > " Nothing is mentioned on the aspects of Ketu " > > AS SUCH the rulership and aspects of nodes is not for universal use but for specific purpose. > Some savants suggested that if Rahu and Ketu in mutual aspect of 5/9 with Jupiter , > it generate Rajyoga.This is not true.The aspects of nodes influences the aspected positions > and should not be used for accessing Rajyogas. > AS BPHS HAS NOT INDICATED THE ASPECTS OF KETU , IT IS GENERALLY VIEWED THAT > KETU HAS FULL ASPECTS ON 5,7 AND 9 HOUSE(INFLUENCE ASPECTS). > > I HAVE GIVEN ORIGINAL QUOTES FROM VARIOUS VERSIONS OF BPHS AND LAGHU PARASARI > AND ALSO MY VIEWS.THE SAVANTS ARE FREE TO DRAW OWN CONCLUSIONS. > > > > > G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Dear Imran bhai Well, i had to leave, because of several reasons. Now i am a mute spectator. regards Partha vedic astrology , " astroimran " <astroimran wrote: > > Dear Gopal Goel, > > Pleased to read your worthy piece of writing and classical quotes. > About 5 or 6 years back, we've discussed the same issue on this forum. Then a very learned friend, Anilkumar Kedia (aokedia), shared some classical references from BPHS & JP. > > I don't know why Sarajit Podder, Chandrashekhar, Nitin, Anil Kedia, Sunil John, Gorangadas, Ramadasarao, Partha Sarathy, Narayana Iyer, left writing for online groups. Even P.V.R. Narasimharo Rao appears rarely... Missing them all... > > Anyway, following clues may help new learners to understand aspects of lunar nodes while prognosticating. > > Sincerely, > M. Imran > > > ===================================================== > CLASSICAL REFERENCES TO THE ASPECTS OF RAHU AND KETU > ===================================================== > > BPHS, Chapter 9, verses 7-11: > Grahas (any Graha) in the 12th house will be the source of a short life, specifically the luminaries (Sun and Moon), Venus, and Rahu. But the aspect of these four planets (on the 12th house) will counteract such evils. " > > BPHS, Chapter 30, verse 38: > 38. If Rahu is in the 7th or the 12th from Ascendant Pada (AL) or gives an aspect to one of the said houses, the native will be endowed with spiritual knowledge and be very fortunate. > > BPHS 33, 36: > Ketu's aspect on the 5th from Karakamsha will cause dysentery and other diseases caused by (impure) water. > > BPHS: 33, 50: > If Saturn and Rahu give an aspect to, or occupy, the 9th from Karakamsha, one will betray his elders and be averse to ancient learning. > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 87: > 87. When the Moon in conjunction with a malefic planet occupies the sign occupied by the lord of the 8th bhava and when the last mentioned planet is aspected by Rahu, the person born will suffer from a disease affecting the privities. > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 97 > When Saturn in conjunction with Mars occupies the 6th bhava, and is aspected by the Sun and Rahu, and when the lord of the Ascendant is without strength, the result will be a lingering illness. > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 50 > If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Rahu, the person born will be a poor man. > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 51: > If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Ketu, the person born will be a minister of a king. > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52 > When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Rahu, the person born will be a beggar. > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52: > When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Ketu, the persons born will be a lord. > > JAIMINI SUTRAM: 1, 7: > 7. When the Sun, Rahu and Venus occupy or aspect the twelfth from Arudha lagna the expenditure or losses arise because of the governmental action. > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 3, 42: > When Mars occupies the Ascendant being aspected by Rahu, the person born will have a cord coiled round his body. > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 4: > 4. Even though Jupiter may occupy the Ascendant, if the Moon be in the 8th, the 12th or the 6th bhava and be aspected by the malefic planet Rahu, the child meets with death. > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59: > 59. When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected by Rahu, and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets, the newborn child dies at once. > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59 > When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected by Rahu, and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets and the lord of the rising sign is in his exaltation, the life of the child is 19 years. > > ================================================================== > > > > > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > THERE IS A NICE DISCUSSIONS ON DUAL LORDSHIP > > ANS ASPECTS OF NODES. > > > > first of all ,I will give references as available in BPHS: > > > > Ch 35 of Sitaram Jha and ch 36 -'YOGA KARKAS ADHYA'- > > in both versions slokas 16 and 17 on nodes: > > Sl16-The shadowy planets( Rahu and Ketu) give predominantly > > the effects of the lord of the house with whom they are in conjunction or > > of the house in which they are placed. > > Sl 17-If the Tamograha are situated in an angle or a trine , and are in conjunction with > > or are aspected by the trinal lord or Angular lord respectively , then they become yogakarka. > > THESE TWO SLOKA(S) ARE GIVEN IN LAGHU PARASARI ALSO. > > Laghu Parasari gives one additional sloka: > > SL-36- If rahu and ketu are placed in auspicious houses , even if they are not > > in sambandha (as explained in sloka 17 above) , they will GIVE yogakarka resuts according to > > sub-periods. > > Analysis of above three slokas clearly reveals that Node's aspects are not assigned > > any role while considering their effects and neither their lordship. > > > > The question therefore arises what is the function of their lordship and aspects which > > are revealed in BPHS at a latter stage . Obviously these will used in the reference and > > context where these are mentioned . These are not for general or universal use. > > > > Ch 47 Sloka 106 of Sitaram Jha version ,and ch 48 Sloka 157 of G C Sharma version of > > Bphs under the heading -DASA Adhaya- > > In the context of ascertaining sign dasas, it is mentioned: > > " Scorpio sign has two lordship of two planets namely Mars and Ketu and Aquarius sign > > of Saturn and Rahu, " > > The purpose is well defined. > > > > Ch-48 of sitaram version and chapter 49 of Sharma version -in Dasaphal Adya - of BPHS > > sloka 34,35and 36 , it is mentioned: > > " For accessing dasa results (these sloka are mentioned in the context of NAKSHATRA DASAS > > MORE PARTICULARLY VIMSOTTARI DASA),the exaltation signs of Rahu and ketu are Taurus > > and Scorpio.Mool trikona are Gemini and Sagittarius.Own signs are Aquarius and Scorpio. > > Some also say Virgo and Pisces. " > > Bphs used the lordships of nodes for accessing marka potential.This can be ascertained > > where parasara elaborated dasa and antardasa results in nine separate chapters. > > > > On aspects of Rahu , BPHS version published from Bombay in 1989 , Khemraj Shrikrishnadasa, > > in Ch 47 sloka 26 on page 498 , it is mentioned: > > Rahu has full aspects on 5,7 and 9 houses, half aspect on 2and 10 houses and quarter > > aspect on 3 and 6 houses and considered as blind for the house in which it is placed. " > > " Nothing is mentioned on the aspects of Ketu " > > > > AS SUCH the rulership and aspects of nodes is not for universal use but for specific purpose. > > Some savants suggested that if Rahu and Ketu in mutual aspect of 5/9 with Jupiter , > > it generate Rajyoga.This is not true.The aspects of nodes influences the aspected positions > > and should not be used for accessing Rajyogas. > > AS BPHS HAS NOT INDICATED THE ASPECTS OF KETU , IT IS GENERALLY VIEWED THAT > > KETU HAS FULL ASPECTS ON 5,7 AND 9 HOUSE(INFLUENCE ASPECTS). > > > > I HAVE GIVEN ORIGINAL QUOTES FROM VARIOUS VERSIONS OF BPHS AND LAGHU PARASARI > > AND ALSO MY VIEWS.THE SAVANTS ARE FREE TO DRAW OWN CONCLUSIONS. > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 *klim krishna klim* Dear Jyotisha Nodes They lord the signs based on the śloka of Brhat parasara Hora Śastra (31.6). Sri Parasara mentions the calculations for the Arudhapada and states that if bhava is lorded by two planets then the stronger one should be taken into account. This naturally calls for the conclusion that Vrscika and Aquarius are lorded by Ketu and Rahu respectively besides Mars and Shani. The same is also confirmed by G.C.Sharma in his commentary. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Jyotish Guru of SJC http://rohinaa.com/ /rgendarz/ partvinu5 pisze: > > > Dear Imran bhai > > Well, i had to leave, because of several reasons. Now i am a mute > spectator. > > regards > Partha > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, " astroimran " <astroimran@ > ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopal Goel, > > > > Pleased to read your worthy piece of writing and classical quotes. > > About 5 or 6 years back, we've discussed the same issue on this > forum. Then a very learned friend, Anilkumar Kedia (aokedia), shared > some classical references from BPHS & JP. > > > > I don't know why Sarajit Podder, Chandrashekhar, Nitin, Anil Kedia, > Sunil John, Gorangadas, Ramadasarao, Partha Sarathy, Narayana Iyer, > left writing for online groups. Even P.V.R. Narasimharo Rao appears > rarely... Missing them all... > > > > Anyway, following clues may help new learners to understand aspects > of lunar nodes while prognosticating. > > > > Sincerely, > > M. Imran > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ===== > > CLASSICAL REFERENCES TO THE ASPECTS OF RAHU AND KETU > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ===== > > > > BPHS, Chapter 9, verses 7-11: > > Grahas (any Graha) in the 12th house will be the source of a short > life, specifically the luminaries (Sun and Moon), Venus, and Rahu. But > the aspect of these four planets (on the 12th house) will counteract > such evils. " > > > > BPHS, Chapter 30, verse 38: > > 38. If Rahu is in the 7th or the 12th from Ascendant Pada (AL) or > gives an aspect to one of the said houses, the native will be endowed > with spiritual knowledge and be very fortunate. > > > > BPHS 33, 36: > > Ketu's aspect on the 5th from Karakamsha will cause dysentery and > other diseases caused by (impure) water. > > > > BPHS: 33, 50: > > If Saturn and Rahu give an aspect to, or occupy, the 9th from > Karakamsha, one will betray his elders and be averse to ancient learning. > > > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 87: > > 87. When the Moon in conjunction with a malefic planet occupies the > sign occupied by the lord of the 8th bhava and when the last mentioned > planet is aspected by Rahu, the person born will suffer from a disease > affecting the privities. > > > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 97 > > When Saturn in conjunction with Mars occupies the 6th bhava, and is > aspected by the Sun and Rahu, and when the lord of the Ascendant is > without strength, the result will be a lingering illness. > > > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 50 > > If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Rahu, the > person born will be a poor man. > > > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 51: > > If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Ketu, the > person born will be a minister of a king. > > > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52 > > When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Rahu, the person born will > be a beggar. > > > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52: > > When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Ketu, the persons born > will be a lord. > > > > JAIMINI SUTRAM: 1, 7: > > 7. When the Sun, Rahu and Venus occupy or aspect the twelfth from > Arudha lagna the expenditure or losses arise because of the > governmental action. > > > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 3, 42: > > When Mars occupies the Ascendant being aspected by Rahu, the person > born will have a cord coiled round his body. > > > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 4: > > 4. Even though Jupiter may occupy the Ascendant, if the Moon be in > the 8th, the 12th or the 6th bhava and be aspected by the malefic > planet Rahu, the child meets with death. > > > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59: > > 59. When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected > by Rahu, and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic > planets, the newborn child dies at once. > > > > JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59 > > When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected by > Rahu, and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets > and the lord of the rising sign is in his exaltation, the life of the > child is 19 years. > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > THERE IS A NICE DISCUSSIONS ON DUAL LORDSHIP > > > ANS ASPECTS OF NODES. > > > > > > first of all ,I will give references as available in BPHS: > > > > > > Ch 35 of Sitaram Jha and ch 36 -'YOGA KARKAS ADHYA'- > > > in both versions slokas 16 and 17 on nodes: > > > Sl16-The shadowy planets( Rahu and Ketu) give predominantly > > > the effects of the lord of the house with whom they are in > conjunction or > > > of the house in which they are placed. > > > Sl 17-If the Tamograha are situated in an angle or a trine , and > are in conjunction with > > > or are aspected by the trinal lord or Angular lord respectively , > then they become yogakarka. > > > THESE TWO SLOKA(S) ARE GIVEN IN LAGHU PARASARI ALSO. > > > Laghu Parasari gives one additional sloka: > > > SL-36- If rahu and ketu are placed in auspicious houses , even if > they are not > > > in sambandha (as explained in sloka 17 above) , they will GIVE > yogakarka resuts according to > > > sub-periods. > > > Analysis of above three slokas clearly reveals that Node's aspects > are not assigned > > > any role while considering their effects and neither their lordship. > > > > > > The question therefore arises what is the function of their > lordship and aspects which > > > are revealed in BPHS at a latter stage . Obviously these will used > in the reference and > > > context where these are mentioned . These are not for general or > universal use. > > > > > > Ch 47 Sloka 106 of Sitaram Jha version ,and ch 48 Sloka 157 of G C > Sharma version of > > > Bphs under the heading -DASA Adhaya- > > > In the context of ascertaining sign dasas, it is mentioned: > > > " Scorpio sign has two lordship of two planets namely Mars and Ketu > and Aquarius sign > > > of Saturn and Rahu, " > > > The purpose is well defined. > > > > > > Ch-48 of sitaram version and chapter 49 of Sharma version -in > Dasaphal Adya - of BPHS > > > sloka 34,35and 36 , it is mentioned: > > > " For accessing dasa results (these sloka are mentioned in the > context of NAKSHATRA DASAS > > > MORE PARTICULARLY VIMSOTTARI DASA),the exaltation signs of Rahu > and ketu are Taurus > > > and Scorpio.Mool trikona are Gemini and Sagittarius. Own signs are > Aquarius and Scorpio. > > > Some also say Virgo and Pisces. " > > > Bphs used the lordships of nodes for accessing marka > potential.This can be ascertained > > > where parasara elaborated dasa and antardasa results in nine > separate chapters. > > > > > > On aspects of Rahu , BPHS version published from Bombay in 1989 , > Khemraj Shrikrishnadasa, > > > in Ch 47 sloka 26 on page 498 , it is mentioned: > > > Rahu has full aspects on 5,7 and 9 houses, half aspect on 2and 10 > houses and quarter > > > aspect on 3 and 6 houses and considered as blind for the house in > which it is placed. " > > > " Nothing is mentioned on the aspects of Ketu " > > > > > > AS SUCH the rulership and aspects of nodes is not for universal > use but for specific purpose. > > > Some savants suggested that if Rahu and Ketu in mutual aspect of > 5/9 with Jupiter , > > > it generate Rajyoga.This is not true.The aspects of nodes > influences the aspected positions > > > and should not be used for accessing Rajyogas. > > > AS BPHS HAS NOT INDICATED THE ASPECTS OF KETU , IT IS GENERALLY > VIEWED THAT > > > KETU HAS FULL ASPECTS ON 5,7 AND 9 HOUSE(INFLUENCE ASPECTS). > > > > > > I HAVE GIVEN ORIGINAL QUOTES FROM VARIOUS VERSIONS OF BPHS AND > LAGHU PARASARI > > > AND ALSO MY VIEWS.THE SAVANTS ARE FREE TO DRAW OWN CONCLUSIONS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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