Raj Bhardwaj Abuses Others !!! - Truce, white flag - Peace

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Members,

 

First of all, my sincere apologies for not attempting to stop this back and

forth on a subject that involves me. I saw this thread topic on the list for

sometime, but didn't know it involved me, there always exists a parallel world

that we miss . But, now as I am aware and the subject is about me, let me try

and bring this subject to a close.

 

VJ Ji, First of all thank you and truly commend your action as a moderator. My

intention is not to interfere with your responsibility of a moderator but, if it

is of any consolation I am not offended by any such comments made by someone who

I don't even know. Infact, I didn't even know such comment was made until now.

Ignorance is bliss -.

 

I surely agree with you: such comments doesn't reflect the depth of knowledge

that the commentator may posses but, " Vidya dadati vinayam " is not always the

case. Also full expression of emotions and broadcasting them doesn't help to

maintain the sanctity of the forum and avoid spamming.

 

Now as you have conveyed the message to Mr. Raj, I am sure he would do the

needful as he sees fit. People always do things for their own reason at the end.

 

Anger and foul language only reflects's on one's insecurities/shortcomings and

we are here to follow the light.

 

May light, emotional strength and peace be with you all.

Abhijit

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Mr Raj,

>

> You insulted Mr Abhijit Ji with this rematk : " they do not posess requisite

faculty ... " .

>

> I do not know who Abhijit Ji is, but I certainly know that using such

insulting remarks against any person on a public forum is not only incivility

but a crime too. And user of such a language cannot be an astrologer, if we

define an astrologer according to the standards mentioned in texts like BPHS.

>

> -VJ

> =================== ===

> vedic astrology , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@> wrote:

> >

> > Mr Vinod Jha,

> > Why YOU are in pain with my msg to Abhijeet! Maan Na maan main tera

Mehmaan.

> > Raj Bhardwaj

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > To All Concerned :

> > >

> > > Mr Abhijit simply enquired about the " Vedic " way of calculating

> > > exaltation. It is a forum of " vedic " astrology, hence he was quite right

> > > in asking such a question. The methods used by so-called " vedic "

> > > astrologers are supposed to be vedic methods, whether these methods are

> > > inside or outside the Vedas. Mr Abhijit had not abused anyone to receive

> > > insulting remarks by Mr Raj Bhardwaj. The latter is on an abusing spree

> > > and needs some restraint. There are stringent cyber laws against abusive

> > > emails and there are programs to locate the sender.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============== ===

> > > Please let us know when you find out about it from vedas and

> > > scholars. In the meantime, I shall happily continue to use the method

> > > prescribed by Parashara and others and carry on my practice of astrology

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Abhijit,

> > > >

> > > > The problem with many people like you, like few astrologers, like so

> > > > called doctors ; and like few others (whom I am unable to

> > > categorise),

> > > > who try to dabble in astrology is; that they do not posess requisite

> > > > faculty to grasp the wit and subtle but well intended pun in Rohini's

> > > > writings.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Some one asks Primarly class Q on exaltation and debilitation of

> > > > planets, the other gentelman describes to people that they have Love

> > > Yog

> > > > in their horoscope, a doctor,who perhaps has no work to attend, has

> > > all

> > > > the time on earth to do research in friendly relationships , which he

> > > > insists, must be termed as first marriage,second marriage and so on.

> > > > Funny people posing as astrologers on the group, who do not appear to

> > > > have even basic common sense about astrology and talk through their

> > > > hats.....are creating circus of great jokers ! And yes,It is really

> > > > beoming interesting to enjoy their acts in their own created circus

> > > > ....over the past 9 years.

> > > >

> > > > Rohini, I love your patience, great art of wit and envy the feelings

> > > > of innocent enjoyment ,through writing in this group.It is worth it ,

> > > > rather than going to see 3 Idiots ! I love it . Eagerly awaiting for

> > > > your next reply to Abhijit !

> > > >

> > > > Raj Bhardwaj,Sh Aditya Jyotish Kendra,Pracheen Sh Hanuman Mandir, Dera

> > > > Bassi (Near Chandigarh) Panjab

> > > >

> > > > expert at www.liveperson.com/indoastro-raj/

> > > > <http://www.liveperson.com/indoastro-raj/>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " abhijitbasu " abhijitbasu@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohini,

> > > > >

> > > > > Happy New Year!!!

> > > > > You still not thinking simple -. " I don't know " would have worked

> > > > fine for a reply. Have you watched 3 idiots yet?

> > > > >

> > > > > May your practice be well received and also, may the Galileo within

> > > > you see the light of the day -.

> > > > > Abhijit

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > jyotish_vani@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Abhijit,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please let us know when you find out about it from vedas and

> > > > scholars. In the meantime, I shall happily continue to use the method

> > > > prescribed by Parashara and others and carry on my practice of

> > > astrology

> > > > ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , " abhijitbasu "

> > > <abhijitbasu@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What is the vedic way to calculate the exaltation signs and the

> > > > specific degrees of exaltation?

> > > > > > > Is there a documented logic or a way to derive and confirm what

> > > is

> > > > documented as exaltation and debilitation signs are really in effect

> > > or

> > > > this prescription is based purely on chart observations?

> > > > > > > Any vedic script/book that you know that have the enumeration of

> > > > the reasoning?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you.

> > > > > > > Abhijit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Anshul!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Merry-meet!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Maybe Vinod jee was referring to AYANAMSHA!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since Ptolemy's times when the zodiac and its 'pada' had been

> > > > moving out of phase gradually, there has been increasing strain!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What concerns me more is that you said that " what caught your

> > > > eye was something that you HEARD on that TV show! "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have heard about both MAYAs!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SEEING is believing

> > > > > > > > HEARING is believing!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Turn the TV off and gt down to studying the conventional way!

> > > > Books and charts!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Until some brilliant teacher comes up with an easier modality!

> > > > Like a JYOTISH VIDEO GAME which may be arriving from CALIFORNIA!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One of these days! ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Anshul Chobey "

> > > > <anshulchobey@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dera all

> > > > > > > > > Yesterday I was watching a program on ETV Rajasthan called

> > > > jyotish Vishesh which

> > > > > > > > > has a renowned astrologer from jaipur Dr Vinod Shastri as

> > > one

> > > > of the panelists.

> > > > > > > > > During the program he mentioned something quite interesting

> > > > which caught my eye.

> > > > > > > > > He said that all the in all these years (may be from the

> > > times

> > > > the scriptures

> > > > > > > > > were written)the speed, degrees and other astronomical

> > > > attributes of planets

> > > > > > > > > have changed and therefore the exaltation signs and degrees

> > > of

> > > > exaltation for

> > > > > > > > > planets have also changed. He only mentioned about sun which

> > > > he said is now , in

> > > > > > > > > current times is exalted in Mithuna rasi at 18 degrees and

> > > so

> > > > on for other

> > > > > > > > > planets as well.

> > > > > > > > > I am curious to know has anyone researched or known anything

> > > > like this.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and best regards

> > > > > > > > > Anshul chobey

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Abhijit Ji,

 

I have no desire to waste my time (and others') in useless feuds. I am not the

official moderator of this forum. But I want civility and decorum. Mr Raj is a

knowledgeable person, but sometimes he thinks others to be mere " jokers " . Even

if we are all jokers, such terms should not be used.

 

-VJ

================= ==

vedic astrology , " abhijitbasu " <abhijitbasu wrote:

>

> Members,

>

> First of all, my sincere apologies for not attempting to stop this back and

forth on a subject that involves me. I saw this thread topic on the list for

sometime, but didn't know it involved me, there always exists a parallel world

that we miss . But, now as I am aware and the subject is about me, let me try

and bring this subject to a close.

>

> VJ Ji, First of all thank you and truly commend your action as a moderator. My

intention is not to interfere with your responsibility of a moderator but, if it

is of any consolation I am not offended by any such comments made by someone who

I don't even know. Infact, I didn't even know such comment was made until now.

Ignorance is bliss -.

>

> I surely agree with you: such comments doesn't reflect the depth of knowledge

that the commentator may posses but, " Vidya dadati vinayam " is not always the

case. Also full expression of emotions and broadcasting them doesn't help to

maintain the sanctity of the forum and avoid spamming.

>

> Now as you have conveyed the message to Mr. Raj, I am sure he would do the

needful as he sees fit. People always do things for their own reason at the end.

>

> Anger and foul language only reflects's on one's insecurities/shortcomings and

we are here to follow the light.

>

> May light, emotional strength and peace be with you all.

> Abhijit

vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Mr Raj,

> >

> > You insulted Mr Abhijit Ji with this rematk : " they do not posess requisite

faculty ... " .

> >

> > I do not know who Abhijit Ji is, but I certainly know that using such

insulting remarks against any person on a public forum is not only incivility

but a crime too. And user of such a language cannot be an astrologer, if we

define an astrologer according to the standards mentioned in texts like BPHS.

> >

> > -VJ

> > =================== ===

> > vedic astrology , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr Vinod Jha,

> > > Why YOU are in pain with my msg to Abhijeet! Maan Na maan main tera

Mehmaan.

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > To All Concerned :

> > > >

> > > > Mr Abhijit simply enquired about the " Vedic " way of calculating

> > > > exaltation. It is a forum of " vedic " astrology, hence he was quite right

> > > > in asking such a question. The methods used by so-called " vedic "

> > > > astrologers are supposed to be vedic methods, whether these methods are

> > > > inside or outside the Vedas. Mr Abhijit had not abused anyone to receive

> > > > insulting remarks by Mr Raj Bhardwaj. The latter is on an abusing spree

> > > > and needs some restraint. There are stringent cyber laws against abusive

> > > > emails and there are programs to locate the sender.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ============== ===

> > > > Please let us know when you find out about it from vedas and

> > > > scholars. In the meantime, I shall happily continue to use the method

> > > > prescribed by Parashara and others and carry on my practice of astrology

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Abhijit,

> > > > >

> > > > > The problem with many people like you, like few astrologers, like so

> > > > > called doctors ; and like few others (whom I am unable to

> > > > categorise),

> > > > > who try to dabble in astrology is; that they do not posess requisite

> > > > > faculty to grasp the wit and subtle but well intended pun in Rohini's

> > > > > writings.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Some one asks Primarly class Q on exaltation and debilitation of

> > > > > planets, the other gentelman describes to people that they have Love

> > > > Yog

> > > > > in their horoscope, a doctor,who perhaps has no work to attend, has

> > > > all

> > > > > the time on earth to do research in friendly relationships , which he

> > > > > insists, must be termed as first marriage,second marriage and so on.

> > > > > Funny people posing as astrologers on the group, who do not appear to

> > > > > have even basic common sense about astrology and talk through their

> > > > > hats.....are creating circus of great jokers ! And yes,It is really

> > > > > beoming interesting to enjoy their acts in their own created circus

> > > > > ....over the past 9 years.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohini, I love your patience, great art of wit and envy the feelings

> > > > > of innocent enjoyment ,through writing in this group.It is worth it ,

> > > > > rather than going to see 3 Idiots ! I love it . Eagerly awaiting for

> > > > > your next reply to Abhijit !

> > > > >

> > > > > Raj Bhardwaj,Sh Aditya Jyotish Kendra,Pracheen Sh Hanuman Mandir, Dera

> > > > > Bassi (Near Chandigarh) Panjab

> > > > >

> > > > > expert at www.liveperson.com/indoastro-raj/

> > > > > <http://www.liveperson.com/indoastro-raj/>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " abhijitbasu " abhijitbasu@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohini,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Happy New Year!!!

> > > > > > You still not thinking simple -. " I don't know " would have worked

> > > > > fine for a reply. Have you watched 3 idiots yet?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > May your practice be well received and also, may the Galileo within

> > > > > you see the light of the day -.

> > > > > > Abhijit

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > > jyotish_vani@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Abhijit,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please let us know when you find out about it from vedas and

> > > > > scholars. In the meantime, I shall happily continue to use the method

> > > > > prescribed by Parashara and others and carry on my practice of

> > > > astrology

> > > > > ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , " abhijitbasu "

> > > > <abhijitbasu@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is the vedic way to calculate the exaltation signs and the

> > > > > specific degrees of exaltation?

> > > > > > > > Is there a documented logic or a way to derive and confirm what

> > > > is

> > > > > documented as exaltation and debilitation signs are really in effect

> > > > or

> > > > > this prescription is based purely on chart observations?

> > > > > > > > Any vedic script/book that you know that have the enumeration of

> > > > > the reasoning?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you.

> > > > > > > > Abhijit

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Anshul!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Merry-meet!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Maybe Vinod jee was referring to AYANAMSHA!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Since Ptolemy's times when the zodiac and its 'pada' had been

> > > > > moving out of phase gradually, there has been increasing strain!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What concerns me more is that you said that " what caught your

> > > > > eye was something that you HEARD on that TV show! "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have heard about both MAYAs!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SEEING is believing

> > > > > > > > > HEARING is believing!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Turn the TV off and gt down to studying the conventional way!

> > > > > Books and charts!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Until some brilliant teacher comes up with an easier modality!

> > > > > Like a JYOTISH VIDEO GAME which may be arriving from CALIFORNIA!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One of these days! ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Anshul Chobey "

> > > > > <anshulchobey@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dera all

> > > > > > > > > > Yesterday I was watching a program on ETV Rajasthan called

> > > > > jyotish Vishesh which

> > > > > > > > > > has a renowned astrologer from jaipur Dr Vinod Shastri as

> > > > one

> > > > > of the panelists.

> > > > > > > > > > During the program he mentioned something quite interesting

> > > > > which caught my eye.

> > > > > > > > > > He said that all the in all these years (may be from the

> > > > times

> > > > > the scriptures

> > > > > > > > > > were written)the speed, degrees and other astronomical

> > > > > attributes of planets

> > > > > > > > > > have changed and therefore the exaltation signs and degrees

> > > > of

> > > > > exaltation for

> > > > > > > > > > planets have also changed. He only mentioned about sun which

> > > > > he said is now , in

> > > > > > > > > > current times is exalted in Mithuna rasi at 18 degrees and

> > > > so

> > > > > on for other

> > > > > > > > > > planets as well.

> > > > > > > > > > I am curious to know has anyone researched or known anything

> > > > > like this.

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and best regards

> > > > > > > > > > Anshul chobey

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >