Exaltation of Planets and Debilities of Members.

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Rohini Da,

 

God is not testing me, because now-a-days I am not performing any

particular saadhanaa excepting my normal routines of subsisting on one

meal of mere havishyaanna (no sals, spices, oils, etc), which is not

real saadhanaa as per my abilities. Now-a-days, I do not even get time

to meditate properly. Computers and internet are harming me a lot. So

are Sanskrit schools, colleges and panchangas managed by me. Should I

leave the world or should I get rid of worldliness in my attitude ? You

know the answer.

 

I had read the message of Mr Abhijit before you asked me to read. What

you perceive as a token of my vindictive nature is really something

else. I had decided to leave this forum, because I felt (perhaps

wrongly) Mr Raj was being prompted by more than one member to get rid of

me. This feeling was caused by total lack of any cause behind his

uncivil attacks on me. Had Mr Raj been a not-so-knowledgeable

astrologer, I would have ignored his outpourings. But I know he is not

an ignorant fool, he acted deliberately. And he can never accept his

fault (nor do I need his apology). I am not surprized, I know persons

from their language.

 

But I am really surprized at you : you know I tolerated even obscene

abuses and never retorted in a hot language to that person. Why do you

think me to be impatient and vindictive now ? I know most of the members

in some internet fora do not want to test my software. They should

never, that is all I can say. I am in no need of popularity and

acceptance. I had told you that I did my duty by digitizing the ancient

method and that is all. Those who do not value tests by IISc, NASA, etc

will never believe in tests by lesser institutions or persons. For three

years, my tenth house is going to be very bad, and I expect more and

more of abuses & c. But 2nd and 5th houses are excellent and are helping

me in my work. My Guruji was much more knowledgeable and influential

than me, but he never tried to get his 60 books published. Why should I

???

 

-VJ

============== ==

vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay_ji,

>

> God has this habit, it seems. of sending distractions when the

becomes strong! God is neither vindictive, nor out there to

TEST all of us mortals, but just sends reminders as to what we should

focus on and what we should try to ignore!

>

> Sometimes silence is golden and a sign of strength and not a weakness!

Even for grihasthas like me! And certainly for others who have chosen a

more difficult path.

>

> I would request you to read message # 117884, written by an

even-keeled person, and perhaps lot younger than some of us :-)

>

> Regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> >

> > Rohini Da,

> >

> > <<<One must always retort!>>>

> >

> > I do not always retort, I retort only when I am in a mood to leave a

group. As long as I see some meaningful dialogue, I tolerate even abuses

from scoundrels.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ================= ===

> > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > One must always retort! As long as we walk through this mayavini

reality, Vinay_ji!

> > >

> > > Like the story about the snake in scriptures reminds us!

> > >

> > > You see, while people go to Crusades over HOLY scriptures and what

the moderators (some fora, this one excepted, so far!) consider as

blasphemy and try to control for the sake of face-saving publicly to

appease the majority as some sort of effort towards " HEALING " -- we

forget that there is only one SOURCE that ALL must arise from and return

TO.

> > >

> > > How else would the CIRCLE be...?

> > >

> > > ...called a CIRCLE!

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohini Da,

> > > >

> > > > I do not care for abuses, but sometimes I feel I should retort,

and if

> > > > need arises I will ask my lawyer to book a few wrong doers who

spoil

> > > > civilized fora.

> > > >

> > > > I am not against this label, because " Vedic Astrology " , in my

view, is

> > > > not the astrology according to the Vedas as some misguided

persons want

> > > > to stress, but the astrology propagated and practised by those

who

> > > > believe in Vedas and vedic culture in broad sense. The term

" Indian

> > > > Astrology " is improper, because the latter includes influences

from

> > > > outside sources such as Greek, Islamic, Tadjik, etc. At present,

Jain

> > > > astrology is not a separate trend. Hence, " Vedic Astrology "

means

> > > > 'indigenous astrology " of India. I, therefore, like to use the

term

> > > > " Vedic Astrology " myself.

> > > >

> > > > I used the label " so-called " because of a reason I would not

have liked

> > > > to explain in public fora.

> > > >

> > > > I have read many of your articles, but I am not able to live a

settled

> > > > life for two years. Hence, I have not been able to read all of

you. I

> > > > liked not only the content, but also the method you use. You are

among

> > > > the best living writers in this field.

> > > >

> > > > Recently, Central Govt has approved sufficient financial aid to

the

> > > > voluntary Sanskrit college controlled by me. I started a

Gurukula also

> > > > five months ago, and now my financial problems for the survival

of this

> > > > Gurukula are almost over. I have students who have memorized

Panini's

> > > > Ashtaadhyaayi by rote and are now learning higher things in

Sanskrit and

> > > > English. I never tried for any donations from any quarter, and

used my

> > > > own resources to run this ashrama (I did not save money in banks

: God

> > > > is helping me, perhaps).

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > =============== ====

> > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Without getting entangled in the 'duniyadari' of this thread,

Jha_ji,

> > > > I have always been somewhat concerned by these labels that

Indian

> > > > Astrologers have imposed on Jyotish!

> > > > >

> > > > > Hindu Astrology, Vedic Astrology, Vaidik Astrology, Indian

Astrology

> > > > ...!

> > > > >

> > > > > When can we ALL come together and decide that Jyotish should

be called

> > > > simply JYOTISH!

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps once it finds its original name, all these skirmishes

and

> > > > confusions decimate!

> > > > >

> > > > > And they say: What's in a name!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To All Concerned :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mr Abhijit simply enquired about the " Vedic " way of

calculating

> > > > > > exaltation. It is a forum of " vedic " astrology, hence he was

quite

> > > > right

> > > > > > in asking such a question. The methods used by so-called

" vedic "

> > > > > > astrologers are supposed to be vedic methods, whether these

methods

> > > > are

> > > > > > inside or outside the Vedas. Mr Abhijit had not abused

anyone to

> > > > receive

> > > > > > insulting remarks by Mr Raj Bhardwaj. The latter is on an

abusing

> > > > spree

> > > > > > and needs some restraint. There are stringent cyber laws

against

> > > > abusive

> > > > > > emails and there are programs to locate the sender.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Vinay_jee,

 

You are misunderstanding me! I never thought of you as vindictive or impatient.

The message that I requested you to read was not Abhijit's but Atul Bhatia's!

 

PEACE!

 

RR_,

 

vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Rohini Da,

>

> God is not testing me, because now-a-days I am not performing any

> particular saadhanaa excepting my normal routines of subsisting on one

> meal of mere havishyaanna (no sals, spices, oils, etc), which is not

> real saadhanaa as per my abilities. Now-a-days, I do not even get time

> to meditate properly. Computers and internet are harming me a lot. So

> are Sanskrit schools, colleges and panchangas managed by me. Should I

> leave the world or should I get rid of worldliness in my attitude ? You

> know the answer.

>

> I had read the message of Mr Abhijit before you asked me to read. What

> you perceive as a token of my vindictive nature is really something

> else. I had decided to leave this forum, because I felt (perhaps

> wrongly) Mr Raj was being prompted by more than one member to get rid of

> me. This feeling was caused by total lack of any cause behind his

> uncivil attacks on me. Had Mr Raj been a not-so-knowledgeable

> astrologer, I would have ignored his outpourings. But I know he is not

> an ignorant fool, he acted deliberately. And he can never accept his

> fault (nor do I need his apology). I am not surprized, I know persons

> from their language.

>

> But I am really surprized at you : you know I tolerated even obscene

> abuses and never retorted in a hot language to that person. Why do you

> think me to be impatient and vindictive now ? I know most of the members

> in some internet fora do not want to test my software. They should

> never, that is all I can say. I am in no need of popularity and

> acceptance. I had told you that I did my duty by digitizing the ancient

> method and that is all. Those who do not value tests by IISc, NASA, etc

> will never believe in tests by lesser institutions or persons. For three

> years, my tenth house is going to be very bad, and I expect more and

> more of abuses & c. But 2nd and 5th houses are excellent and are helping

> me in my work. My Guruji was much more knowledgeable and influential

> than me, but he never tried to get his 60 books published. Why should I

> ???

>

> -VJ

> ============== ==

> vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay_ji,

> >

> > God has this habit, it seems. of sending distractions when the

> becomes strong! God is neither vindictive, nor out there to

> TEST all of us mortals, but just sends reminders as to what we should

> focus on and what we should try to ignore!

> >

> > Sometimes silence is golden and a sign of strength and not a weakness!

> Even for grihasthas like me! And certainly for others who have chosen a

> more difficult path.

> >

> > I would request you to read message # 117884, written by an

> even-keeled person, and perhaps lot younger than some of us :-)

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohini Da,

> > >

> > > <<<One must always retort!>>>

> > >

> > > I do not always retort, I retort only when I am in a mood to leave a

> group. As long as I see some meaningful dialogue, I tolerate even abuses

> from scoundrels.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ================= ===

> > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > One must always retort! As long as we walk through this mayavini

> reality, Vinay_ji!

> > > >

> > > > Like the story about the snake in scriptures reminds us!

> > > >

> > > > You see, while people go to Crusades over HOLY scriptures and what

> the moderators (some fora, this one excepted, so far!) consider as

> blasphemy and try to control for the sake of face-saving publicly to

> appease the majority as some sort of effort towards " HEALING " -- we

> forget that there is only one SOURCE that ALL must arise from and return

> TO.

> > > >

> > > > How else would the CIRCLE be...?

> > > >

> > > > ...called a CIRCLE!

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohini Da,

> > > > >

> > > > > I do not care for abuses, but sometimes I feel I should retort,

> and if

> > > > > need arises I will ask my lawyer to book a few wrong doers who

> spoil

> > > > > civilized fora.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am not against this label, because " Vedic Astrology " , in my

> view, is

> > > > > not the astrology according to the Vedas as some misguided

> persons want

> > > > > to stress, but the astrology propagated and practised by those

> who

> > > > > believe in Vedas and vedic culture in broad sense. The term

> " Indian

> > > > > Astrology " is improper, because the latter includes influences

> from

> > > > > outside sources such as Greek, Islamic, Tadjik, etc. At present,

> Jain

> > > > > astrology is not a separate trend. Hence, " Vedic Astrology "

> means

> > > > > 'indigenous astrology " of India. I, therefore, like to use the

> term

> > > > > " Vedic Astrology " myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > I used the label " so-called " because of a reason I would not

> have liked

> > > > > to explain in public fora.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have read many of your articles, but I am not able to live a

> settled

> > > > > life for two years. Hence, I have not been able to read all of

> you. I

> > > > > liked not only the content, but also the method you use. You are

> among

> > > > > the best living writers in this field.

> > > > >

> > > > > Recently, Central Govt has approved sufficient financial aid to

> the

> > > > > voluntary Sanskrit college controlled by me. I started a

> Gurukula also

> > > > > five months ago, and now my financial problems for the survival

> of this

> > > > > Gurukula are almost over. I have students who have memorized

> Panini's

> > > > > Ashtaadhyaayi by rote and are now learning higher things in

> Sanskrit and

> > > > > English. I never tried for any donations from any quarter, and

> used my

> > > > > own resources to run this ashrama (I did not save money in banks

> : God

> > > > > is helping me, perhaps).

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > =============== ====

> > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Without getting entangled in the 'duniyadari' of this thread,

> Jha_ji,

> > > > > I have always been somewhat concerned by these labels that

> Indian

> > > > > Astrologers have imposed on Jyotish!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hindu Astrology, Vedic Astrology, Vaidik Astrology, Indian

> Astrology

> > > > > ...!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When can we ALL come together and decide that Jyotish should

> be called

> > > > > simply JYOTISH!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps once it finds its original name, all these skirmishes

> and

> > > > > confusions decimate!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And they say: What's in a name!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To All Concerned :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mr Abhijit simply enquired about the " Vedic " way of

> calculating

> > > > > > > exaltation. It is a forum of " vedic " astrology, hence he was

> quite

> > > > > right

> > > > > > > in asking such a question. The methods used by so-called

> " vedic "

> > > > > > > astrologers are supposed to be vedic methods, whether these

> methods

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > inside or outside the Vedas. Mr Abhijit had not abused

> anyone to

> > > > > receive

> > > > > > > insulting remarks by Mr Raj Bhardwaj. The latter is on an

> abusing

> > > > > spree

> > > > > > > and needs some restraint. There are stringent cyber laws

> against

> > > > > abusive

> > > > > > > emails and there are programs to locate the sender.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

RR Da,

 

Sorry.

 

Om Shanti !

 

I am gradually gaining my former state of tranquility by getting out of internet

fora one by one.

 

-vj

======================= ======

vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay_jee,

>

> You are misunderstanding me! I never thought of you as vindictive or

impatient. The message that I requested you to read was not Abhijit's but Atul

Bhatia's!

>

> PEACE!

>

> RR_,

>

> vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Rohini Da,

> >

> > God is not testing me, because now-a-days I am not performing any

> > particular saadhanaa excepting my normal routines of subsisting on one

> > meal of mere havishyaanna (no sals, spices, oils, etc), which is not

> > real saadhanaa as per my abilities. Now-a-days, I do not even get time

> > to meditate properly. Computers and internet are harming me a lot. So

> > are Sanskrit schools, colleges and panchangas managed by me. Should I

> > leave the world or should I get rid of worldliness in my attitude ? You

> > know the answer.

> >

> > I had read the message of Mr Abhijit before you asked me to read. What

> > you perceive as a token of my vindictive nature is really something

> > else. I had decided to leave this forum, because I felt (perhaps

> > wrongly) Mr Raj was being prompted by more than one member to get rid of

> > me. This feeling was caused by total lack of any cause behind his

> > uncivil attacks on me. Had Mr Raj been a not-so-knowledgeable

> > astrologer, I would have ignored his outpourings. But I know he is not

> > an ignorant fool, he acted deliberately. And he can never accept his

> > fault (nor do I need his apology). I am not surprized, I know persons

> > from their language.

> >

> > But I am really surprized at you : you know I tolerated even obscene

> > abuses and never retorted in a hot language to that person. Why do you

> > think me to be impatient and vindictive now ? I know most of the members

> > in some internet fora do not want to test my software. They should

> > never, that is all I can say. I am in no need of popularity and

> > acceptance. I had told you that I did my duty by digitizing the ancient

> > method and that is all. Those who do not value tests by IISc, NASA, etc

> > will never believe in tests by lesser institutions or persons. For three

> > years, my tenth house is going to be very bad, and I expect more and

> > more of abuses & c. But 2nd and 5th houses are excellent and are helping

> > me in my work. My Guruji was much more knowledgeable and influential

> > than me, but he never tried to get his 60 books published. Why should I

> > ???

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============== ==

> > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay_ji,

> > >

> > > God has this habit, it seems. of sending distractions when the

> > becomes strong! God is neither vindictive, nor out there to

> > TEST all of us mortals, but just sends reminders as to what we should

> > focus on and what we should try to ignore!

> > >

> > > Sometimes silence is golden and a sign of strength and not a weakness!

> > Even for grihasthas like me! And certainly for others who have chosen a

> > more difficult path.

> > >

> > > I would request you to read message # 117884, written by an

> > even-keeled person, and perhaps lot younger than some of us :-)

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohini Da,

> > > >

> > > > <<<One must always retort!>>>

> > > >

> > > > I do not always retort, I retort only when I am in a mood to leave a

> > group. As long as I see some meaningful dialogue, I tolerate even abuses

> > from scoundrels.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ================= ===

> > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > One must always retort! As long as we walk through this mayavini

> > reality, Vinay_ji!

> > > > >

> > > > > Like the story about the snake in scriptures reminds us!

> > > > >

> > > > > You see, while people go to Crusades over HOLY scriptures and what

> > the moderators (some fora, this one excepted, so far!) consider as

> > blasphemy and try to control for the sake of face-saving publicly to

> > appease the majority as some sort of effort towards " HEALING " -- we

> > forget that there is only one SOURCE that ALL must arise from and return

> > TO.

> > > > >

> > > > > How else would the CIRCLE be...?

> > > > >

> > > > > ...called a CIRCLE!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohini Da,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do not care for abuses, but sometimes I feel I should retort,

> > and if

> > > > > > need arises I will ask my lawyer to book a few wrong doers who

> > spoil

> > > > > > civilized fora.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am not against this label, because " Vedic Astrology " , in my

> > view, is

> > > > > > not the astrology according to the Vedas as some misguided

> > persons want

> > > > > > to stress, but the astrology propagated and practised by those

> > who

> > > > > > believe in Vedas and vedic culture in broad sense. The term

> > " Indian

> > > > > > Astrology " is improper, because the latter includes influences

> > from

> > > > > > outside sources such as Greek, Islamic, Tadjik, etc. At present,

> > Jain

> > > > > > astrology is not a separate trend. Hence, " Vedic Astrology "

> > means

> > > > > > 'indigenous astrology " of India. I, therefore, like to use the

> > term

> > > > > > " Vedic Astrology " myself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I used the label " so-called " because of a reason I would not

> > have liked

> > > > > > to explain in public fora.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have read many of your articles, but I am not able to live a

> > settled

> > > > > > life for two years. Hence, I have not been able to read all of

> > you. I

> > > > > > liked not only the content, but also the method you use. You are

> > among

> > > > > > the best living writers in this field.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Recently, Central Govt has approved sufficient financial aid to

> > the

> > > > > > voluntary Sanskrit college controlled by me. I started a

> > Gurukula also

> > > > > > five months ago, and now my financial problems for the survival

> > of this

> > > > > > Gurukula are almost over. I have students who have memorized

> > Panini's

> > > > > > Ashtaadhyaayi by rote and are now learning higher things in

> > Sanskrit and

> > > > > > English. I never tried for any donations from any quarter, and

> > used my

> > > > > > own resources to run this ashrama (I did not save money in banks

> > : God

> > > > > > is helping me, perhaps).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > =============== ====

> > > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Without getting entangled in the 'duniyadari' of this thread,

> > Jha_ji,

> > > > > > I have always been somewhat concerned by these labels that

> > Indian

> > > > > > Astrologers have imposed on Jyotish!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hindu Astrology, Vedic Astrology, Vaidik Astrology, Indian

> > Astrology

> > > > > > ...!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When can we ALL come together and decide that Jyotish should

> > be called

> > > > > > simply JYOTISH!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Perhaps once it finds its original name, all these skirmishes

> > and

> > > > > > confusions decimate!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And they say: What's in a name!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To All Concerned :

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mr Abhijit simply enquired about the " Vedic " way of

> > calculating

> > > > > > > > exaltation. It is a forum of " vedic " astrology, hence he was

> > quite

> > > > > > right

> > > > > > > > in asking such a question. The methods used by so-called

> > " vedic "

> > > > > > > > astrologers are supposed to be vedic methods, whether these

> > methods

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > inside or outside the Vedas. Mr Abhijit had not abused

> > anyone to

> > > > > > receive

> > > > > > > > insulting remarks by Mr Raj Bhardwaj. The latter is on an

> > abusing

> > > > > > spree

> > > > > > > > and needs some restraint. There are stringent cyber laws

> > against

> > > > > > abusive

> > > > > > > > emails and there are programs to locate the sender.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Vinay_ji,

 

Please do not take this message as an attempt on my part to provoke you or

challenge you or anything aggressive like that. You know that I am harmless as

an ant (a peaceful ant!).

 

One does not have to " leave " internet because that would be palayan, that

psychologists call " denial " .

 

Let us make our role model, The Lotus!

 

You are a lot wiser and spiritually advanced than I can ever be, and way more

intelligent! I will, therefore, not waste your time in elaborating further, ad

nauseum!

 

What I write is really not all that layered or complex, at least never felt that

way when writing it. But then, I do not really know myself, being an ordinary

worldly creature.

 

Kind regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> RR Da,

>

> Sorry.

>

> Om Shanti !

>

> I am gradually gaining my former state of tranquility by getting out of

internet fora one by one.

>

> -vj

> ======================= ======

> vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay_jee,

> >

> > You are misunderstanding me! I never thought of you as vindictive or

impatient. The message that I requested you to read was not Abhijit's but Atul

Bhatia's!

> >

> > PEACE!

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohini Da,

> > >

> > > God is not testing me, because now-a-days I am not performing any

> > > particular saadhanaa excepting my normal routines of subsisting on one

> > > meal of mere havishyaanna (no sals, spices, oils, etc), which is not

> > > real saadhanaa as per my abilities. Now-a-days, I do not even get time

> > > to meditate properly. Computers and internet are harming me a lot. So

> > > are Sanskrit schools, colleges and panchangas managed by me. Should I

> > > leave the world or should I get rid of worldliness in my attitude ? You

> > > know the answer.

> > >

> > > I had read the message of Mr Abhijit before you asked me to read. What

> > > you perceive as a token of my vindictive nature is really something

> > > else. I had decided to leave this forum, because I felt (perhaps

> > > wrongly) Mr Raj was being prompted by more than one member to get rid of

> > > me. This feeling was caused by total lack of any cause behind his

> > > uncivil attacks on me. Had Mr Raj been a not-so-knowledgeable

> > > astrologer, I would have ignored his outpourings. But I know he is not

> > > an ignorant fool, he acted deliberately. And he can never accept his

> > > fault (nor do I need his apology). I am not surprized, I know persons

> > > from their language.

> > >

> > > But I am really surprized at you : you know I tolerated even obscene

> > > abuses and never retorted in a hot language to that person. Why do you

> > > think me to be impatient and vindictive now ? I know most of the members

> > > in some internet fora do not want to test my software. They should

> > > never, that is all I can say. I am in no need of popularity and

> > > acceptance. I had told you that I did my duty by digitizing the ancient

> > > method and that is all. Those who do not value tests by IISc, NASA, etc

> > > will never believe in tests by lesser institutions or persons. For three

> > > years, my tenth house is going to be very bad, and I expect more and

> > > more of abuses & c. But 2nd and 5th houses are excellent and are helping

> > > me in my work. My Guruji was much more knowledgeable and influential

> > > than me, but he never tried to get his 60 books published. Why should I

> > > ???

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============== ==

> > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinay_ji,

> > > >

> > > > God has this habit, it seems. of sending distractions when the

> > > becomes strong! God is neither vindictive, nor out there to

> > > TEST all of us mortals, but just sends reminders as to what we should

> > > focus on and what we should try to ignore!

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes silence is golden and a sign of strength and not a weakness!

> > > Even for grihasthas like me! And certainly for others who have chosen a

> > > more difficult path.

> > > >

> > > > I would request you to read message # 117884, written by an

> > > even-keeled person, and perhaps lot younger than some of us :-)

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohini Da,

> > > > >

> > > > > <<<One must always retort!>>>

> > > > >

> > > > > I do not always retort, I retort only when I am in a mood to leave a

> > > group. As long as I see some meaningful dialogue, I tolerate even abuses

> > > from scoundrels.

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > ================= ===

> > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One must always retort! As long as we walk through this mayavini

> > > reality, Vinay_ji!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Like the story about the snake in scriptures reminds us!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You see, while people go to Crusades over HOLY scriptures and what

> > > the moderators (some fora, this one excepted, so far!) consider as

> > > blasphemy and try to control for the sake of face-saving publicly to

> > > appease the majority as some sort of effort towards " HEALING " -- we

> > > forget that there is only one SOURCE that ALL must arise from and return

> > > TO.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How else would the CIRCLE be...?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...called a CIRCLE!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohini Da,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I do not care for abuses, but sometimes I feel I should retort,

> > > and if

> > > > > > > need arises I will ask my lawyer to book a few wrong doers who

> > > spoil

> > > > > > > civilized fora.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am not against this label, because " Vedic Astrology " , in my

> > > view, is

> > > > > > > not the astrology according to the Vedas as some misguided

> > > persons want

> > > > > > > to stress, but the astrology propagated and practised by those

> > > who

> > > > > > > believe in Vedas and vedic culture in broad sense. The term

> > > " Indian

> > > > > > > Astrology " is improper, because the latter includes influences

> > > from

> > > > > > > outside sources such as Greek, Islamic, Tadjik, etc. At present,

> > > Jain

> > > > > > > astrology is not a separate trend. Hence, " Vedic Astrology "

> > > means

> > > > > > > 'indigenous astrology " of India. I, therefore, like to use the

> > > term

> > > > > > > " Vedic Astrology " myself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I used the label " so-called " because of a reason I would not

> > > have liked

> > > > > > > to explain in public fora.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have read many of your articles, but I am not able to live a

> > > settled

> > > > > > > life for two years. Hence, I have not been able to read all of

> > > you. I

> > > > > > > liked not only the content, but also the method you use. You are

> > > among

> > > > > > > the best living writers in this field.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Recently, Central Govt has approved sufficient financial aid to

> > > the

> > > > > > > voluntary Sanskrit college controlled by me. I started a

> > > Gurukula also

> > > > > > > five months ago, and now my financial problems for the survival

> > > of this

> > > > > > > Gurukula are almost over. I have students who have memorized

> > > Panini's

> > > > > > > Ashtaadhyaayi by rote and are now learning higher things in

> > > Sanskrit and

> > > > > > > English. I never tried for any donations from any quarter, and

> > > used my

> > > > > > > own resources to run this ashrama (I did not save money in banks

> > > : God

> > > > > > > is helping me, perhaps).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > =============== ====

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Without getting entangled in the 'duniyadari' of this thread,

> > > Jha_ji,

> > > > > > > I have always been somewhat concerned by these labels that

> > > Indian

> > > > > > > Astrologers have imposed on Jyotish!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology, Vedic Astrology, Vaidik Astrology, Indian

> > > Astrology

> > > > > > > ...!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > When can we ALL come together and decide that Jyotish should

> > > be called

> > > > > > > simply JYOTISH!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Perhaps once it finds its original name, all these skirmishes

> > > and

> > > > > > > confusions decimate!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And they say: What's in a name!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > To All Concerned :

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mr Abhijit simply enquired about the " Vedic " way of

> > > calculating

> > > > > > > > > exaltation. It is a forum of " vedic " astrology, hence he was

> > > quite

> > > > > > > right

> > > > > > > > > in asking such a question. The methods used by so-called

> > > " vedic "

> > > > > > > > > astrologers are supposed to be vedic methods, whether these

> > > methods

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > inside or outside the Vedas. Mr Abhijit had not abused

> > > anyone to

> > > > > > > receive

> > > > > > > > > insulting remarks by Mr Raj Bhardwaj. The latter is on an

> > > abusing

> > > > > > > spree

> > > > > > > > > and needs some restraint. There are stringent cyber laws

> > > against

> > > > > > > abusive

> > > > > > > > > emails and there are programs to locate the sender.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Rohini Da,

 

I do not care for dishonest philistine shopkeepers masquerading as

Jyotishis, as well as for half baked astrologers who may be honest but

are useless because they are satisfied with what they already know. A

handful of sincere Jyotishis on internet prevents me from leaving it at

once.

 

It is another matter these sincere persons do not test my work, whatever

be the reasons. I am still unable to make an all-platform version of

Kundalee software, mainly because I have almost no time at present.

 

-VJ

================= ===

vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay_ji,

>

> Please do not take this message as an attempt on my part to provoke

you or challenge you or anything aggressive like that. You know that I

am harmless as an ant (a peaceful ant!).

>

> One does not have to " leave " internet because that would be palayan,

that psychologists call " denial " .

>

> Let us make our role model, The Lotus!

>

> You are a lot wiser and spiritually advanced than I can ever be, and

way more intelligent! I will, therefore, not waste your time in

elaborating further, ad nauseum!

>

> What I write is really not all that layered or complex, at least never

felt that way when writing it. But then, I do not really know myself,

being an ordinary worldly creature.

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> >

> > RR Da,

> >

> > Sorry.

> >

> > Om Shanti !

> >

> > I am gradually gaining my former state of tranquility by getting out

of internet fora one by one.

> >

> > -vj

> > ======================= ======

> > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay_jee,

> > >

> > > You are misunderstanding me! I never thought of you as vindictive

or impatient. The message that I requested you to read was not Abhijit's

but Atul Bhatia's!

> > >

> > > PEACE!

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohini Da,

> > > >

> > > > God is not testing me, because now-a-days I am not performing

any

> > > > particular saadhanaa excepting my normal routines of subsisting

on one

> > > > meal of mere havishyaanna (no sals, spices, oils, etc), which is

not

> > > > real saadhanaa as per my abilities. Now-a-days, I do not even

get time

> > > > to meditate properly. Computers and internet are harming me a

lot. So

> > > > are Sanskrit schools, colleges and panchangas managed by me.

Should I

> > > > leave the world or should I get rid of worldliness in my

attitude ? You

> > > > know the answer.

> > > >

> > > > I had read the message of Mr Abhijit before you asked me to

read. What

> > > > you perceive as a token of my vindictive nature is really

something

> > > > else. I had decided to leave this forum, because I felt (perhaps

> > > > wrongly) Mr Raj was being prompted by more than one member to

get rid of

> > > > me. This feeling was caused by total lack of any cause behind

his

> > > > uncivil attacks on me. Had Mr Raj been a not-so-knowledgeable

> > > > astrologer, I would have ignored his outpourings. But I know he

is not

> > > > an ignorant fool, he acted deliberately. And he can never accept

his

> > > > fault (nor do I need his apology). I am not surprized, I know

persons

> > > > from their language.

> > > >

> > > > But I am really surprized at you : you know I tolerated even

obscene

> > > > abuses and never retorted in a hot language to that person. Why

do you

> > > > think me to be impatient and vindictive now ? I know most of the

members

> > > > in some internet fora do not want to test my software. They

should

> > > > never, that is all I can say. I am in no need of popularity and

> > > > acceptance. I had told you that I did my duty by digitizing the

ancient

> > > > method and that is all. Those who do not value tests by IISc,

NASA, etc

> > > > will never believe in tests by lesser institutions or persons.

For three

> > > > years, my tenth house is going to be very bad, and I expect more

and

> > > > more of abuses & c. But 2nd and 5th houses are excellent and are

helping

> > > > me in my work. My Guruji was much more knowledgeable and

influential

> > > > than me, but he never tried to get his 60 books published. Why

should I

> > > > ???

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ============== ==

> > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vinay_ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > God has this habit, it seems. of sending distractions when the

> > > > becomes strong! God is neither vindictive, nor out

there to

> > > > TEST all of us mortals, but just sends reminders as to what we

should

> > > > focus on and what we should try to ignore!

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes silence is golden and a sign of strength and not a

weakness!

> > > > Even for grihasthas like me! And certainly for others who have

chosen a

> > > > more difficult path.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would request you to read message # 117884, written by an

> > > > even-keeled person, and perhaps lot younger than some of us :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohini Da,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <<<One must always retort!>>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do not always retort, I retort only when I am in a mood to

leave a

> > > > group. As long as I see some meaningful dialogue, I tolerate

even abuses

> > > > from scoundrels.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > ================= ===

> > > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One must always retort! As long as we walk through this

mayavini

> > > > reality, Vinay_ji!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Like the story about the snake in scriptures reminds us!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You see, while people go to Crusades over HOLY scriptures

and what

> > > > the moderators (some fora, this one excepted, so far!) consider

as

> > > > blasphemy and try to control for the sake of face-saving

publicly to

> > > > appease the majority as some sort of effort towards " HEALING " --

we

> > > > forget that there is only one SOURCE that ALL must arise from

and return

> > > > TO.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How else would the CIRCLE be...?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...called a CIRCLE!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha "

<vinayjhaa16@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohini Da,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I do not care for abuses, but sometimes I feel I should

retort,

> > > > and if

> > > > > > > > need arises I will ask my lawyer to book a few wrong

doers who

> > > > spoil

> > > > > > > > civilized fora.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am not against this label, because " Vedic Astrology " ,

in my

> > > > view, is

> > > > > > > > not the astrology according to the Vedas as some

misguided

> > > > persons want

> > > > > > > > to stress, but the astrology propagated and practised by

those

> > > > who

> > > > > > > > believe in Vedas and vedic culture in broad sense. The

term

> > > > " Indian

> > > > > > > > Astrology " is improper, because the latter includes

influences

> > > > from

> > > > > > > > outside sources such as Greek, Islamic, Tadjik, etc. At

present,

> > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > astrology is not a separate trend. Hence, " Vedic

Astrology "

> > > > means

> > > > > > > > 'indigenous astrology " of India. I, therefore, like to

use the

> > > > term

> > > > > > > > " Vedic Astrology " myself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I used the label " so-called " because of a reason I would

not

> > > > have liked

> > > > > > > > to explain in public fora.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have read many of your articles, but I am not able to

live a

> > > > settled

> > > > > > > > life for two years. Hence, I have not been able to read

all of

> > > > you. I

> > > > > > > > liked not only the content, but also the method you use.

You are

> > > > among

> > > > > > > > the best living writers in this field.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Recently, Central Govt has approved sufficient financial

aid to

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > voluntary Sanskrit college controlled by me. I started a

> > > > Gurukula also

> > > > > > > > five months ago, and now my financial problems for the

survival

> > > > of this

> > > > > > > > Gurukula are almost over. I have students who have

memorized

> > > > Panini's

> > > > > > > > Ashtaadhyaayi by rote and are now learning higher things

in

> > > > Sanskrit and

> > > > > > > > English. I never tried for any donations from any

quarter, and

> > > > used my

> > > > > > > > own resources to run this ashrama (I did not save money

in banks

> > > > : God

> > > > > > > > is helping me, perhaps).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > =============== ====

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Without getting entangled in the 'duniyadari' of this

thread,

> > > > Jha_ji,

> > > > > > > > I have always been somewhat concerned by these labels

that

> > > > Indian

> > > > > > > > Astrologers have imposed on Jyotish!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology, Vedic Astrology, Vaidik Astrology,

Indian

> > > > Astrology

> > > > > > > > ...!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When can we ALL come together and decide that Jyotish

should

> > > > be called

> > > > > > > > simply JYOTISH!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Perhaps once it finds its original name, all these

skirmishes

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > confusions decimate!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And they say: What's in a name!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha "

vinayjhaa16@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > To All Concerned :

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mr Abhijit simply enquired about the " Vedic " way of

> > > > calculating

> > > > > > > > > > exaltation. It is a forum of " vedic " astrology,

hence he was

> > > > quite

> > > > > > > > right

> > > > > > > > > > in asking such a question. The methods used by

so-called

> > > > " vedic "

> > > > > > > > > > astrologers are supposed to be vedic methods,

whether these

> > > > methods

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > inside or outside the Vedas. Mr Abhijit had not

abused

> > > > anyone to

> > > > > > > > receive

> > > > > > > > > > insulting remarks by Mr Raj Bhardwaj. The latter is

on an

> > > > abusing

> > > > > > > > spree

> > > > > > > > > > and needs some restraint. There are stringent cyber

laws

> > > > against

> > > > > > > > abusive

> > > > > > > > > > emails and there are programs to locate the sender.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >