Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Namaskar Dipu , Our whole jyotish observation done by rishis of yesteryears like Maharishi Parashar, Jaimini, Naradji etcc are based one reference point -That is EARTH. It is the earth on which Drista { observer,calculator} is living. So from that reference point -Earth ,our Rishis observed all effects on jatak living on earth. If in case u build house on Moon or any other planet ,even then astrolger can cast your chart. But it will take few more or may be hundreds of years to observe and find that 9th graha which can replace qualities of moon. But one can also take it as earth ,but which dristi ,tattwa , karakas should be given to earth for phalit ? It still requires any present Brahmins to find grahas effect on human being. But also note that there r many grahas in sky not just nav garahas.But we only do take consider those which effect humans directly and within age of there transit in rasi ,as human is assigned only 120 years of age as maximum. Rest of them r just for phalit of things like-country, mountains, oceans, yugas etcc. One old man once said me that there r 84 planets which gave effect in mundane astrolgy. thanks, dheeraj khosla, delhi vedic astrology , " Dipu " <sashikanta.nayak wrote: > > Why we will consider a Planet in our solar system as a GOD in Vedic Astrology? Might be we have some planetary influence in our daily life through cosmic energy coming through planets as they have nearer planet to earth, but considering a planet as a GOD is this right? Does western astrologer tropical calculations are considering a planet as a GOD and remedies should only through Gemstone not doing for any Puja or Chanting of mantras? If a planet is god like Moon is a GOD in astrology and Rahu and Ketu are two shadow planets as a concept like north nodes and south nodes so according to this we need remedial measures, but like moon Saturn has 22 satellites but not considering as Deities in astrology? Why not all prediction gives 100% result like Bill Gates does not have a good Horoscope but till him is the numero-uno. There are lots of Satellite like moon of our nine planets does they have any direct and indirect influence, so that these are hard to discover for a Vedic astrologer therefore it's not in the course or they do not have any influence to us? I came to know that FBI in US having lots of hired good astrologer for prediction and monitoring of future criminal activities of terrorist like Osoma Bin Ladens next attacking target etc, also lots of companies hired employee based on their Birth Chart for better and honest out put to companies. And another things is that why we do not have any effect of our own planet earth? Why there is no gemstone for earth (is this exsulted for all so it's a benific planet and need not to consider?)? If I will purchased a flat at moon and if I will give a birth at there then is the Birth chart would be same or the calculation will change and we have to consider earth as a Planet in our birth chart? So the earth would come under which deities and what mantra one should chant to influence the earth? I believe there should few expected answers. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Thanks Dheeraj Ji, I have a question, here lots of Astro Gurus suggesting remedies for graha and their effect and to remove the ill effect or to enhance the Graha's Qualities. I have few questions also few others are thinking like me. 1.For Remedies, we have to wear Gemstone, Yantras, Rudrakhya etc. etc. Which will remove the ill effect of planet? Question is: Wearing a gemstone does it remove the ill effect or it will just gives us cosmic energy through cosmic ray and there is no Graha Lord are not responsible? If a person would internally strong then he does not required any gemstone and yantra etc? Or it's really observed by planetary deities; if you will wear any gemstone then they will bless you and makes you lucky? Which statement is correct? 2.If above statements are correct then Doing a Puja; Wearing a Gemstone; Wearing a Rudrakhya; and Wearing a Yantra would be benefic. For example if a person having Kal Sarp Yog to avail from this which method is good for him as he is suffering every time. Few days I had gone through a post and Gururji Suggest that you have a Major problem and there would no remedies will work for you. So what the meaning of Astrology or Jotisya if there will be no remedies are applicable? 3.Does it possible someone can Tune-Up his Karma to 100% using Astrology by doing Remedies? 4.If yes so does Astrology and Jyotish Remides are against God? Or It's a gift of god to avail from Graha effect? Does it has any link with previous Karma ? 5.Do we have re-birth? Can Astrology helps us to get Mokhya? Thanks, Sashikant vedic astrology , " khosladheeraj " <khosladheeraj wrote: > > > Namaskar Dipu , > Our whole jyotish observation done by rishis of yesteryears like Maharishi Parashar, Jaimini, Naradji etcc are based one reference point -That is EARTH. It is the earth on which Drista { observer,calculator} is living. So from that reference point -Earth ,our Rishis observed all effects on jatak living on earth. > > If in case u build house on Moon or any other planet ,even then astrolger can cast your chart. But it will take few more or may be hundreds of years to observe and find that 9th graha which can replace qualities of moon. But one can also take it as earth ,but which dristi ,tattwa , karakas should be given to earth for phalit ? It still requires any present Brahmins to find grahas effect on human being. > > > But also note that there r many grahas in sky not just nav garahas.But we only do take consider those which effect humans directly and within age of there transit in rasi ,as human is assigned only 120 years of age as maximum. Rest of them r just for phalit of things like-country, mountains, oceans, yugas etcc. One old man once said me that there r 84 planets which gave effect in mundane astrolgy. > > thanks, > dheeraj khosla, > delhi > > > > > vedic astrology , " Dipu " <sashikanta.nayak@> wrote: > > > > Why we will consider a Planet in our solar system as a GOD in Vedic Astrology? Might be we have some planetary influence in our daily life through cosmic energy coming through planets as they have nearer planet to earth, but considering a planet as a GOD is this right? Does western astrologer tropical calculations are considering a planet as a GOD and remedies should only through Gemstone not doing for any Puja or Chanting of mantras? If a planet is god like Moon is a GOD in astrology and Rahu and Ketu are two shadow planets as a concept like north nodes and south nodes so according to this we need remedial measures, but like moon Saturn has 22 satellites but not considering as Deities in astrology? Why not all prediction gives 100% result like Bill Gates does not have a good Horoscope but till him is the numero-uno. There are lots of Satellite like moon of our nine planets does they have any direct and indirect influence, so that these are hard to discover for a Vedic astrologer therefore it's not in the course or they do not have any influence to us? I came to know that FBI in US having lots of hired good astrologer for prediction and monitoring of future criminal activities of terrorist like Osoma Bin Ladens next attacking target etc, also lots of companies hired employee based on their Birth Chart for better and honest out put to companies. And another things is that why we do not have any effect of our own planet earth? Why there is no gemstone for earth (is this exsulted for all so it's a benific planet and need not to consider?)? If I will purchased a flat at moon and if I will give a birth at there then is the Birth chart would be same or the calculation will change and we have to consider earth as a Planet in our birth chart? So the earth would come under which deities and what mantra one should chant to influence the earth? I believe there should few expected answers. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Shashikanta babu, My views are under your questions - Dipu Monday, January 25, 2010 8:44 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: A General Discussion on Vedic Astrology need all's attentions Thanks Dheeraj Ji, I have a question, here lots of Astro Gurus suggesting remedies for graha and their effect and to remove the ill effect or to enhance the Graha's Qualities. Rath: 4 things are listed by your (1) graha and (2) their effect and (3) to remove the ill effect or (4) to enhance the Graha's Qualities I have few questions also few others are thinking like me. 1.For Remedies, we have to wear Gemstone, Yantras, Rudrakhya etc. etc. Which will remove the ill effect of planet? Rath: Which ill effect you want removed? (1) Graha as in grahaNa (2) effect of graha like drsti or low bala or low vimsopaka bala or low digbala or low sambandha or low sthana bala or ... I can list about a few dozen weaknesses, so you need to be specific for me to be specific Question is: Wearing a gemstone does it remove the ill effect or it will just gives us cosmic energy through cosmic ray and there is no Graha Lord are not responsible? If a person would internally strong then he does not required any gemstone and yantra etc? Or it's really observed by planetary deities; if you will wear any gemstone then they will bless you and makes you lucky? Rath: Anukula vaadi (vaishnava) - enhances the quality of a planet; Pratikula vaadi (shakta) removes the negative effects of the planets. Again this depends on who you follow. I follow both !! That sounds shocking but so does the teaching of Sri Chaitanya where he asks us to worship Shiva Linga which some other vaishnava do not follow. Which statement is correct? Rath: Chaitanya Mahaprabhu school - both are. The eagles view (Garuda-Achyutananda) is that it can understand both and take the balanced view 2.If above statements are correct then Doing a Puja; Wearing a Gemstone; Wearing a Rudrakhya; and Wearing a Yantra would be benefic. Rath: Puja are of various types and can be categorised into six groups - called sad-ritu mantra. If you understand ritu, you will know what is good for what. For example if a person having Kal Sarp Yog to avail from this which method is good for him as he is suffering every time. Few days I had gone through a post and Gururji Suggest that you have a Major problem and there would no remedies will work for you. So what the meaning of Astrology or Jotisya if there will be no remedies are applicable? 3.Does it possible someone can Tune-Up his Karma to 100% using Astrology by doing Remedies? Rath: No not astrology, Jyotish yes if treated and followed like a vedanga 4.If yes so does Astrology and Jyotish Remides are against God? Or It's a gift of god to avail from Graha effect? Does it has any link with previous Karma ? Rath: Everything is Karma, all the gods you speak of themselves have karma. If Vishnu did not have karma, why did He have to incarnate as Rama or Krishna? For fun?? Kaala is above the guna and the guna avatara. Go above them and see from the eagles vantage. You will find the answers there. Understand the samkhya and then that is jyotish. 5.Do we have re-birth? Can Astrology helps us to get Mokhya? Rath: We have rebirth. Astrology does not believe in rebirth and is non-commital about it. Jyotish believes in rebirth and is very specific about it. Thanks, Sashikant Rath: This time yes, but no more. I have too much on my karma plate. You are very intelligent. Hope we meet sometime. vedic astrology , " khosladheeraj " <khosladheeraj wrote: > > > Namaskar Dipu , > Our whole jyotish observation done by rishis of yesteryears like Maharishi Parashar, Jaimini, Naradji etcc are based one reference point -That is EARTH. It is the earth on which Drista { observer,calculator} is living. So from that reference point -Earth ,our Rishis observed all effects on jatak living on earth. > > If in case u build house on Moon or any other planet ,even then astrolger can cast your chart. But it will take few more or may be hundreds of years to observe and find that 9th graha which can replace qualities of moon. But one can also take it as earth ,but which dristi ,tattwa , karakas should be given to earth for phalit ? It still requires any present Brahmins to find grahas effect on human being. > > > But also note that there r many grahas in sky not just nav garahas.But we only do take consider those which effect humans directly and within age of there transit in rasi ,as human is assigned only 120 years of age as maximum. Rest of them r just for phalit of things like-country, mountains, oceans, yugas etcc. One old man once said me that there r 84 planets which gave effect in mundane astrolgy. > > thanks, > dheeraj khosla, > delhi > > > > > vedic astrology , " Dipu " <sashikanta.nayak@> wrote: > > > > Why we will consider a Planet in our solar system as a GOD in Vedic Astrology? Might be we have some planetary influence in our daily life through cosmic energy coming through planets as they have nearer planet to earth, but considering a planet as a GOD is this right? Does western astrologer tropical calculations are considering a planet as a GOD and remedies should only through Gemstone not doing for any Puja or Chanting of mantras? If a planet is god like Moon is a GOD in astrology and Rahu and Ketu are two shadow planets as a concept like north nodes and south nodes so according to this we need remedial measures, but like moon Saturn has 22 satellites but not considering as Deities in astrology? Why not all prediction gives 100% result like Bill Gates does not have a good Horoscope but till him is the numero-uno. There are lots of Satellite like moon of our nine planets does they have any direct and indirect influence, so that these are hard to discover for a Vedic astrologer therefore it's not in the course or they do not have any influence to us? I came to know that FBI in US having lots of hired good astrologer for prediction and monitoring of future criminal activities of terrorist like Osoma Bin Ladens next attacking target etc, also lots of companies hired employee based on their Birth Chart for better and honest out put to companies. And another things is that why we do not have any effect of our own planet earth? Why there is no gemstone for earth (is this exsulted for all so it's a benific planet and need not to consider?)? If I will purchased a flat at moon and if I will give a birth at there then is the Birth chart would be same or the calculation will change and we have to consider earth as a Planet in our birth chart? So the earth would come under which deities and what mantra one should chant to influence the earth? I believe there should few expected answers. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Thank You Guruji, you have cleared various doubt. These are not my questions but various of my day to day friends and influenced peoples are not believing on God, Bhagya, Jotisya, astrology etc. and came up with questions. vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath Monday, January 25, 2010 9:38 PM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: A General Discussion on Vedic Astrology need all's attentions Shashikanta babu, My views are under your questions - Dipu Monday, January 25, 2010 8:44 PM vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> [vedic astrology] Re: A General Discussion on Vedic Astrology need all's attentions Thanks Dheeraj Ji, I have a question, here lots of Astro Gurus suggesting remedies for graha and their effect and to remove the ill effect or to enhance the Graha's Qualities. Rath: 4 things are listed by your (1) graha and (2) their effect and (3) to remove the ill effect or (4) to enhance the Graha's Qualities I have few questions also few others are thinking like me. 1.For Remedies, we have to wear Gemstone, Yantras, Rudrakhya etc. etc. Which will remove the ill effect of planet? Rath: Which ill effect you want removed? (1) Graha as in grahaNa (2) effect of graha like drsti or low bala or low vimsopaka bala or low digbala or low sambandha or low sthana bala or ... I can list about a few dozen weaknesses, so you need to be specific for me to be specific Question is: Wearing a gemstone does it remove the ill effect or it will just gives us cosmic energy through cosmic ray and there is no Graha Lord are not responsible? If a person would internally strong then he does not required any gemstone and yantra etc? Or it's really observed by planetary deities; if you will wear any gemstone then they will bless you and makes you lucky? Rath: Anukula vaadi (vaishnava) - enhances the quality of a planet; Pratikula vaadi (shakta) removes the negative effects of the planets. Again this depends on who you follow. I follow both !! That sounds shocking but so does the teaching of Sri Chaitanya where he asks us to worship Shiva Linga which some other vaishnava do not follow. Which statement is correct? Rath: Chaitanya Mahaprabhu school - both are. The eagles view (Garuda-Achyutananda) is that it can understand both and take the balanced view 2.If above statements are correct then Doing a Puja; Wearing a Gemstone; Wearing a Rudrakhya; and Wearing a Yantra would be benefic. Rath: Puja are of various types and can be categorised into six groups - called sad-ritu mantra. If you understand ritu, you will know what is good for what. For example if a person having Kal Sarp Yog to avail from this which method is good for him as he is suffering every time. Few days I had gone through a post and Gururji Suggest that you have a Major problem and there would no remedies will work for you. So what the meaning of Astrology or Jotisya if there will be no remedies are applicable? 3.Does it possible someone can Tune-Up his Karma to 100% using Astrology by doing Remedies? Rath: No not astrology, Jyotish yes if treated and followed like a vedanga 4.If yes so does Astrology and Jyotish Remides are against God? Or It's a gift of god to avail from Graha effect? Does it has any link with previous Karma ? Rath: Everything is Karma, all the gods you speak of themselves have karma. If Vishnu did not have karma, why did He have to incarnate as Rama or Krishna? For fun?? Kaala is above the guna and the guna avatara. Go above them and see from the eagles vantage. You will find the answers there. Understand the samkhya and then that is jyotish. 5.Do we have re-birth? Can Astrology helps us to get Mokhya? Rath: We have rebirth. Astrology does not believe in rebirth and is non-commital about it. Jyotish believes in rebirth and is very specific about it. Thanks, Sashikant Rath: This time yes, but no more. I have too much on my karma plate. You are very intelligent. Hope we meet sometime. vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> , " khosladheeraj " <khosladheeraj wrote: > > > Namaskar Dipu , > Our whole jyotish observation done by rishis of yesteryears like Maharishi Parashar, Jaimini, Naradji etcc are based one reference point -That is EARTH. It is the earth on which Drista { observer,calculator} is living. So from that reference point -Earth ,our Rishis observed all effects on jatak living on earth. > > If in case u build house on Moon or any other planet ,even then astrolger can cast your chart. But it will take few more or may be hundreds of years to observe and find that 9th graha which can replace qualities of moon. But one can also take it as earth ,but which dristi ,tattwa , karakas should be given to earth for phalit ? It still requires any present Brahmins to find grahas effect on human being. > > > But also note that there r many grahas in sky not just nav garahas.But we only do take consider those which effect humans directly and within age of there transit in rasi ,as human is assigned only 120 years of age as maximum. Rest of them r just for phalit of things like-country, mountains, oceans, yugas etcc. One old man once said me that there r 84 planets which gave effect in mundane astrolgy. > > thanks, > dheeraj khosla, > delhi > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> , " Dipu " <sashikanta.nayak@> wrote: > > > > Why we will consider a Planet in our solar system as a GOD in Vedic Astrology? Might be we have some planetary influence in our daily life through cosmic energy coming through planets as they have nearer planet to earth, but considering a planet as a GOD is this right? Does western astrologer tropical calculations are considering a planet as a GOD and remedies should only through Gemstone not doing for any Puja or Chanting of mantras? If a planet is god like Moon is a GOD in astrology and Rahu and Ketu are two shadow planets as a concept like north nodes and south nodes so according to this we need remedial measures, but like moon Saturn has 22 satellites but not considering as Deities in astrology? Why not all prediction gives 100% result like Bill Gates does not have a good Horoscope but till him is the numero-uno. There are lots of Satellite like moon of our nine planets does they have any direct and indirect influence, so that these are hard to discover for a Vedic astrologer therefore it's not in the course or they do not have any influence to us? I came to know that FBI in US having lots of hired good astrologer for prediction and monitoring of future criminal activities of terrorist like Osoma Bin Ladens next attacking target etc, also lots of companies hired employee based on their Birth Chart for better and honest out put to companies. And another things is that why we do not have any effect of our own planet earth? Why there is no gemstone for earth (is this exsulted for all so it's a benific planet and need not to consider?)? If I will purchased a flat at moon and if I will give a birth at there then is the Birth chart would be same or the calculation will change and we have to consider earth as a Planet in our birth chart? So the earth would come under which deities and what mantra one should chant to influence the earth? I believe there should few expected answers. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 pl. unscribe till requested ________________________________ sashikanta <sashikanta.nayak vedic astrology Mon, January 25, 2010 10:11:11 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: A General Discussion on Vedic Astrology need all's attentions Thank You Guruji, you have cleared various doubt. These are not my questions but various of my day to day friends and influenced peoples are not believing on God, Bhagya, Jotisya, astrology etc. and came up with questions. vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath Monday, January 25, 2010 9:38 PM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: A General Discussion on Vedic Astrology need all's attentions Shashikanta babu, My views are under your questions - Dipu Monday, January 25, 2010 8:44 PM vedic astrology <vedic- astrology% 40. com> [vedic astrology] Re: A General Discussion on Vedic Astrology need all's attentions Thanks Dheeraj Ji, I have a question, here lots of Astro Gurus suggesting remedies for graha and their effect and to remove the ill effect or to enhance the Graha's Qualities. Rath: 4 things are listed by your (1) graha and (2) their effect and (3) to remove the ill effect or (4) to enhance the Graha's Qualities I have few questions also few others are thinking like me. 1.For Remedies, we have to wear Gemstone, Yantras, Rudrakhya etc. etc. Which will remove the ill effect of planet? Rath: Which ill effect you want removed? (1) Graha as in grahaNa (2) effect of graha like drsti or low bala or low vimsopaka bala or low digbala or low sambandha or low sthana bala or ... I can list about a few dozen weaknesses, so you need to be specific for me to be specific Question is: Wearing a gemstone does it remove the ill effect or it will just gives us cosmic energy through cosmic ray and there is no Graha Lord are not responsible? If a person would internally strong then he does not required any gemstone and yantra etc? Or it's really observed by planetary deities; if you will wear any gemstone then they will bless you and makes you lucky? Rath: Anukula vaadi (vaishnava) - enhances the quality of a planet; Pratikula vaadi (shakta) removes the negative effects of the planets. Again this depends on who you follow. I follow both !! That sounds shocking but so does the teaching of Sri Chaitanya where he asks us to worship Shiva Linga which some other vaishnava do not follow. Which statement is correct? Rath: Chaitanya Mahaprabhu school - both are. The eagles view (Garuda-Achyutanand a) is that it can understand both and take the balanced view 2.If above statements are correct then Doing a Puja; Wearing a Gemstone; Wearing a Rudrakhya; and Wearing a Yantra would be benefic. Rath: Puja are of various types and can be categorised into six groups - called sad-ritu mantra. If you understand ritu, you will know what is good for what. For example if a person having Kal Sarp Yog to avail from this which method is good for him as he is suffering every time. Few days I had gone through a post and Gururji Suggest that you have a Major problem and there would no remedies will work for you. So what the meaning of Astrology or Jotisya if there will be no remedies are applicable? 3.Does it possible someone can Tune-Up his Karma to 100% using Astrology by doing Remedies? Rath: No not astrology, Jyotish yes if treated and followed like a vedanga 4.If yes so does Astrology and Jyotish Remides are against God? Or It's a gift of god to avail from Graha effect? Does it has any link with previous Karma ? Rath: Everything is Karma, all the gods you speak of themselves have karma. If Vishnu did not have karma, why did He have to incarnate as Rama or Krishna? For fun?? Kaala is above the guna and the guna avatara. Go above them and see from the eagles vantage. You will find the answers there. Understand the samkhya and then that is jyotish. 5.Do we have re-birth? Can Astrology helps us to get Mokhya? Rath: We have rebirth. Astrology does not believe in rebirth and is non-commital about it. Jyotish believes in rebirth and is very specific about it. Thanks, Sashikant Rath: This time yes, but no more. I have too much on my karma plate. You are very intelligent. Hope we meet sometime. vedic astrology <vedic- astrology% 40. com> , " khosladheeraj " <khosladheeraj@ ...> wrote: > > > Namaskar Dipu , > Our whole jyotish observation done by rishis of yesteryears like Maharishi Parashar, Jaimini, Naradji etcc are based one reference point -That is EARTH. It is the earth on which Drista { observer,calculator } is living. So from that reference point -Earth ,our Rishis observed all effects on jatak living on earth. > > If in case u build house on Moon or any other planet ,even then astrolger can cast your chart. But it will take few more or may be hundreds of years to observe and find that 9th graha which can replace qualities of moon. But one can also take it as earth ,but which dristi ,tattwa , karakas should be given to earth for phalit ? It still requires any present Brahmins to find grahas effect on human being. > > > But also note that there r many grahas in sky not just nav garahas.But we only do take consider those which effect humans directly and within age of there transit in rasi ,as human is assigned only 120 years of age as maximum. Rest of them r just for phalit of things like-country, mountains, oceans, yugas etcc. One old man once said me that there r 84 planets which gave effect in mundane astrolgy. > > thanks, > dheeraj khosla, > delhi > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic- astrology% 40. com> , " Dipu " <sashikanta. nayak@> wrote: > > > > Why we will consider a Planet in our solar system as a GOD in Vedic Astrology? Might be we have some planetary influence in our daily life through cosmic energy coming through planets as they have nearer planet to earth, but considering a planet as a GOD is this right? Does western astrologer tropical calculations are considering a planet as a GOD and remedies should only through Gemstone not doing for any Puja or Chanting of mantras? If a planet is god like Moon is a GOD in astrology and Rahu and Ketu are two shadow planets as a concept like north nodes and south nodes so according to this we need remedial measures, but like moon Saturn has 22 satellites but not considering as Deities in astrology? Why not all prediction gives 100% result like Bill Gates does not have a good Horoscope but till him is the numero-uno. There are lots of Satellite like moon of our nine planets does they have any direct and indirect influence, so that these are hard to discover for a Vedic astrologer therefore it's not in the course or they do not have any influence to us? I came to know that FBI in US having lots of hired good astrologer for prediction and monitoring of future criminal activities of terrorist like Osoma Bin Ladens next attacking target etc, also lots of companies hired employee based on their Birth Chart for better and honest out put to companies. And another things is that why we do not have any effect of our own planet earth? Why there is no gemstone for earth (is this exsulted for all so it's a benific planet and need not to consider?)? If I will purchased a flat at moon and if I will give a birth at there then is the Birth chart would be same or the calculation will change and we have to consider earth as a Planet in our birth chart? So the earth would come under which deities and what mantra one should chant to influence the earth? I believe there should few expected answers. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 please do not send any mail from vedic astrology- ________________________________ Joginder Paul Khurana <k.joginderpaul vedic astrology Mon, January 25, 2010 10:41:06 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: A General Discussion on Vedic Astrology need all's attentions pl. unscribe till requested ____________ _________ _________ __ sashikanta <sashikanta.nayak@ gmail.com> vedic astrology Mon, January 25, 2010 10:11:11 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: A General Discussion on Vedic Astrology need all's attentions Thank You Guruji, you have cleared various doubt. These are not my questions but various of my day to day friends and influenced peoples are not believing on God, Bhagya, Jotisya, astrology etc. and came up with questions. vedic astrology [vedic- astrology@ .. com] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath Monday, January 25, 2010 9:38 PM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: A General Discussion on Vedic Astrology need all's attentions Shashikanta babu, My views are under your questions - Dipu Monday, January 25, 2010 8:44 PM vedic astrology <vedic- astrology% 40. com> [vedic astrology] Re: A General Discussion on Vedic Astrology need all's attentions Thanks Dheeraj Ji, I have a question, here lots of Astro Gurus suggesting remedies for graha and their effect and to remove the ill effect or to enhance the Graha's Qualities. Rath: 4 things are listed by your (1) graha and (2) their effect and (3) to remove the ill effect or (4) to enhance the Graha's Qualities I have few questions also few others are thinking like me. 1.For Remedies, we have to wear Gemstone, Yantras, Rudrakhya etc. etc. Which will remove the ill effect of planet? Rath: Which ill effect you want removed? (1) Graha as in grahaNa (2) effect of graha like drsti or low bala or low vimsopaka bala or low digbala or low sambandha or low sthana bala or ... I can list about a few dozen weaknesses, so you need to be specific for me to be specific Question is: Wearing a gemstone does it remove the ill effect or it will just gives us cosmic energy through cosmic ray and there is no Graha Lord are not responsible? If a person would internally strong then he does not required any gemstone and yantra etc? Or it's really observed by planetary deities; if you will wear any gemstone then they will bless you and makes you lucky? Rath: Anukula vaadi (vaishnava) - enhances the quality of a planet; Pratikula vaadi (shakta) removes the negative effects of the planets. Again this depends on who you follow. I follow both !! That sounds shocking but so does the teaching of Sri Chaitanya where he asks us to worship Shiva Linga which some other vaishnava do not follow. Which statement is correct? Rath: Chaitanya Mahaprabhu school - both are. The eagles view (Garuda-Achyutanand a) is that it can understand both and take the balanced view 2.If above statements are correct then Doing a Puja; Wearing a Gemstone; Wearing a Rudrakhya; and Wearing a Yantra would be benefic. Rath: Puja are of various types and can be categorised into six groups - called sad-ritu mantra. If you understand ritu, you will know what is good for what. For example if a person having Kal Sarp Yog to avail from this which method is good for him as he is suffering every time. Few days I had gone through a post and Gururji Suggest that you have a Major problem and there would no remedies will work for you. So what the meaning of Astrology or Jotisya if there will be no remedies are applicable? 3.Does it possible someone can Tune-Up his Karma to 100% using Astrology by doing Remedies? Rath: No not astrology, Jyotish yes if treated and followed like a vedanga 4.If yes so does Astrology and Jyotish Remides are against God? Or It's a gift of god to avail from Graha effect? Does it has any link with previous Karma ? Rath: Everything is Karma, all the gods you speak of themselves have karma. If Vishnu did not have karma, why did He have to incarnate as Rama or Krishna? For fun?? Kaala is above the guna and the guna avatara. Go above them and see from the eagles vantage. You will find the answers there. Understand the samkhya and then that is jyotish. 5.Do we have re-birth? Can Astrology helps us to get Mokhya? Rath: We have rebirth. Astrology does not believe in rebirth and is non-commital about it. Jyotish believes in rebirth and is very specific about it. Thanks, Sashikant Rath: This time yes, but no more. I have too much on my karma plate. You are very intelligent.. Hope we meet sometime. vedic astrology <vedic- astrology% 40. com> , " khosladheeraj " <khosladheeraj@ ...> wrote: > > > Namaskar Dipu , > Our whole jyotish observation done by rishis of yesteryears like Maharishi Parashar, Jaimini, Naradji etcc are based one reference point -That is EARTH. It is the earth on which Drista { observer,calculator } is living. So from that reference point -Earth ,our Rishis observed all effects on jatak living on earth. > > If in case u build house on Moon or any other planet ,even then astrolger can cast your chart. But it will take few more or may be hundreds of years to observe and find that 9th graha which can replace qualities of moon. But one can also take it as earth ,but which dristi ,tattwa , karakas should be given to earth for phalit ? It still requires any present Brahmins to find grahas effect on human being. > > > But also note that there r many grahas in sky not just nav garahas.But we only do take consider those which effect humans directly and within age of there transit in rasi ,as human is assigned only 120 years of age as maximum. Rest of them r just for phalit of things like-country, mountains, oceans, yugas etcc. One old man once said me that there r 84 planets which gave effect in mundane astrolgy. > > thanks, > dheeraj khosla, > delhi > > > > > vedic astrology <vedic- astrology% 40. com> , " Dipu " <sashikanta. nayak@> wrote: > > > > Why we will consider a Planet in our solar system as a GOD in Vedic Astrology? Might be we have some planetary influence in our daily life through cosmic energy coming through planets as they have nearer planet to earth, but considering a planet as a GOD is this right? Does western astrologer tropical calculations are considering a planet as a GOD and remedies should only through Gemstone not doing for any Puja or Chanting of mantras? If a planet is god like Moon is a GOD in astrology and Rahu and Ketu are two shadow planets as a concept like north nodes and south nodes so according to this we need remedial measures, but like moon Saturn has 22 satellites but not considering as Deities in astrology? Why not all prediction gives 100% result like Bill Gates does not have a good Horoscope but till him is the numero-uno. There are lots of Satellite like moon of our nine planets does they have any direct and indirect influence, so that these are hard to discover for a Vedic astrologer therefore it's not in the course or they do not have any influence to us? I came to know that FBI in US having lots of hired good astrologer for prediction and monitoring of future criminal activities of terrorist like Osoma Bin Ladens next attacking target etc, also lots of companies hired employee based on their Birth Chart for better and honest out put to companies. And another things is that why we do not have any effect of our own planet earth? Why there is no gemstone for earth (is this exsulted for all so it's a benific planet and need not to consider?)? If I will purchased a flat at moon and if I will give a birth at there then is the Birth chart would be same or the calculation will change and we have to consider earth as a Planet in our birth chart? So the earth would come under which deities and what mantra one should chant to influence the earth? I believe there should few expected answers. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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