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>krishna joshi <snjoshy

>Astro_Remedies

>Sat, 6 March, 2010 12:27:22 AM

>Re: [Astro_Remedies] Re:Boon of Hanuman Ji

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>It is interesting to note that Goswami Thulasidas ( whose Ramacharitha Manas is

>being quoted ) was worshipping idols ( there is a story even that he made the

Nandi

>of a Shiva temple eat his offering ); was he doing it knowing fully well that

>deity would have no power to give him anything ?

>

>Saying that there were bad elements in Thretha ( Ravana ) or Dwapara ( Kamsa)

>does not mean there was no divinity anywhere at that time. Yes , the approach

>of inviting gods was different ( not like Panchayathana Pooja, that most of the

people

>consider as relevant to today's context) and possibly there was no idle

worship.

>Even Shriram ( whom Sahashi ji sworns by ) made a Shiva linga out of the sand

>near Rameshwaram, and asked the benevolence of Mahadeva, to win the

> war

>against Ravan !

>

>If people today are looking for things that are different from idol worshipping

, it

>is mostly for two reasons. One, the pooja needs a disciplined effort and

concentration,

>and it is difficult to practice continuously. So easy way out is just sing a

shloka or

>stotra and fool ourselves , it is equivalent to a pooja.

>

>Second, and more importantly , in the context of many a temple, the pooja is

not done according to shastras, but mostly as the convenience permits. No sthala

shuddhi, Atma

>Shuddhi or even a proper Avahan is done before a Pooja. This will slowly fade

away

>the divinity in the idol and make people wonder, whether it has any power at

all.

>Ofcourse, in many a temple, a Kalavriddhi is done once in 12 years , but there

are

>many who may not even know about it.

>

>Astrologers sometimes suggest remedy of doing Pooja in certain temples ( like

Kalahasthi, Chidambaram etc ) or doing pooja

> of a deity at home ( even Shashi ji

>might have suggested it , for some of the problems ). Can we expect Shashi ji

>to intervene at such instances , as he is confident that such poojas will have

no impact ?

>

>Let the sense prevail,

>

>regards

>Shri

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>>Krishan Prakash Saxena <kpsaxena1234

>>Astro_Remedies

>>Fri, 5 March, 2010 7:26:03 PM

>>Re: [Astro_Remedies] Re:Boon of Hanuman Ji

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>>thanks for this beautiful answer. May Shri Ram & Hanumanji fulfill your

dreams.

>>best regards.

>>kpsaxena

>>--- On Thu, 4/3/10, Shashi Shekhar <polite_astro@ > wrote:

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>>>Shashi Shekhar <polite_astro@ >

>>>Re: [Astro_Remedies] Re:Boon of Hanuman Ji

>>>Astro_Remedies

>>>Thursday, 4 March, 2010, 8:33 PM

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>>> ll HARE_RAM ll

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>>>My dear Shri ji,

>>>First i do saadar Pranaam to you the ardent devotee of Hanumaan ji.Now let me

give the answer in brief.

>>>Please remember Ravan who was more or the most ardent devotee of Lord Shiva

in comparison to us even then Lord Shiva had to pray to Lord Vishnu along with

Brahama ji and Devtaa's to take Avtaar to kill Ravan due to his bad karmas and

came himself to support Lord Ram as Hanumaan ji.

>>>[Ramcharitmanas, Baal-Kand, Doha No.183 to 185]

>>>If you check the home page of our groups HARE_RAM & Astro_Remedies, you will

see,i pasted there the photo of Lord Ram who is my Est-Deo while i am very

simple devotee and i get motivation and energy to see him.What is my mean to say

that we must pray idol or photo of our Gods but it is also true that in Kaliyuga

the said idols will be powerless because Lord Vishnu had to take Avtaar as Ram

in almost the same/present condition that are mentioned in aforesaid Dohas.

>>>Moreover you should read Uttar-Kand from Doha No.90 to till the end and 12th

Skandha of Shrimad-Bhagvat Puraan.As--

>>> " DWAAPAR KARI RAGHUPATI PAD POOJA,NAR BHAV TARHIN UPAAYA NA DOOJA.KALIJUG

KEWAL HARI GUN GAAHAA, GAAWAT NAR PAAVEHI BHAV THAAHAA. "

>>>KALIJUG YOGA NA JAGYA NA GYAANAA,EK ADHAAR RAM GUN GAANAA.SAB BHROSE TAJI JO

BHAJ RAMEHI,PREM SAMET GAAV GUN GRAAMAHI. "

>>>[uttar-Kand, Ramcharitmanas, Doha.102 Chaupaie No.2 & 3]

>>> " KRATE YAD DHYAAYATE VISHNUM TRETAAYAAM YAJTO MAKHAI.

>>>DWAAPARE PARICHARCHAYAM KALAO TAD HARI-KIRTNAM "

>>>[ Shrimad Bhaagvat, 12th Skandha]

>>>As far as Yagna/ Karm-Kanda or Dharm path are concerned, there seven Shuddhis

( Purity) as [1] Desh-Shuddhi, [2] Kaal Shuddhi [3] Mantra Shuddhi [4] Deha

Shuddhi [5] Vichaar Shuddhi [6] Indriya Shuddhi and last [7] Dravya Shuddhi all

are needed.Is it possible in present kaal?

>>>What is the meaning of meditation? To devote 100% or to complete surrender

into the lotus feet of God by any way among the Navdhaa Bhakti and to chant the

name of your Est is the very first stage.

>>>Therefore i simply suggested Naam-Aadhaar the easiest way to get the grace of

God through Hanuman ji.I did not make any offence.These 12 names are explained

in Adyatma-Ramayan in a Shloka-Form.

>>>I am concluding this thread here.One may have some other opinions, agreed &

no problem.

>>>God bless.

>>>

>>>Best wishes

>>>Shashi Shekhar

>>> " Shaaswat_Jyotish "

>>>www.astroremedies. webs.com

>>>

>>>

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>>>

>>>[Live Simply, Love Generously, Care Deeply, Speak Politely,Behave Honestly

and Leave the rest to KindGOD]

>>>

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>>>--- On Thu, 3/4/10, krishna joshi <snjoshy > wrote:

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>>>>krishna joshi <snjoshy >

>>>>Re: [Astro_Remedies] Re:Boon of Hanuman Ji

>>>>Astro_Remedies

>>>>Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:02 PM

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>>>>It looks like an overstatement. The way the deities are related to the idols

is a different

>>>>phenomenon. A worship has a procedure and if followed properly, the deities

, invited into the idols would bestow us.

>>>>

>>>> If the same line of thinking is extrapolated to Yagnas,then the yagnas in

Kaliyuga will have no impact. Pls. compare this with another statement in

puranas , which says " if you meditate with absolute devotion for one Ghati in

kaliyuga, you attain salvation " .

>>>>

>>>>Pls. donot misguide people with these sort of statements. Kindly give

reference to your

>>>>statement ( which purana or Grantha reflects your statement).

>>>>

>>>>I am an ardent devotee of Hanuman jee, but also remember that he is called

the " Dwadasha Rudra " . So, without remembering other Ekadasha rudras, I would

not be

>>>>able to worship him.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Om Tatsat,

>>>>Shri

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Krishan Prakash Saxena <kpsaxena1234@ .co. in>

>>>>>Astro_Remedies

>>>>>Wed, 3 March, 2010 9:16:34 PM

>>>>>Re: [Astro_Remedies] Re:Boon of Hanuman Ji

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>>>>>

>>>>>Thanks for the good valueable information. But than why are we worshipping

idols of god or goddesh in Home or in Temples.

>>>>>best wishes.

>>>>>kpsaxena

>>>>>

>>>>>--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Shashi Shekhar <polite_astro@ > wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Shashi Shekhar <polite_astro@ >

>>>>>>[Astro_Remedies] Re:Boon of Hanuman Ji

>>>>>>HARE_RAM@ s.com, Astro_Remedies

>>>>>>Wednesday, 3 March, 2010, 8:49 PM

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>>>>>> ll HARE_RAM ll

>>>>>>

>>>>>>My dear friends,

>>>>>>

>>>>>>It is said in our texts that in Kali-Yuga the idols of our God or Godesses

in the temples will be powerless or the soul of idols will be disappeared to see

the extreme sins of the aforesaid Yuga.Therefore worship of Hanuman ji mainly

who is immortal in all four yugas will be helpful to get rid from the grief of

Kali-Yuga or past sins.There are 12 names of Hanuman ji explained in our text

that are extremelly useful to get his grace.

>>>>>>[1] HANUMAAN

>>>>>>[2] ANJINI-SUNU

>>>>>>[3] VAAYU-PUTRA

>>>>>>[4] MAHAABALI

>>>>>>[5] RAMESTA

>>>>>>[6] FAALGUN-SAKHA

>>>>>>[7] PINGAAKSHA

>>>>>>[8] AMIT-VIKRAM

>>>>>>[9] UDADHI-KRAMAN

>>>>>>[10] SITA-SHOK-VINAASHAN

>>>>>>[11] LAKSHAMAN PRAAN-DAATAA

>>>>>>[12] DASH-GREEV DARPAHA

>>>>>>

>>>>>>The effect of chanting aforesaid names in various times.

>>>>>>[1] To chant in the early hours 11 times as soon as to get up blesses with

longevity,good health and removes grah-peeda.

>>>>>>[2] To chant once at the time of morning worship/pray gets the grace of

own EST.

>>>>>>[3] To chant once in noon time blesses with prosperity/wealth.

>>>>>>[4] To chant once in the evening time gets harmony and peace in the

family.

>>>>>>[5] To chant once at the bed time in the night gets win over enemies.

>>>>>>[6] To chant during the journey removes all the obstacles & makes safe,

help also amazingly to the persons who are indulge in fake court cases.

>>>>>>Please start chanting as soon as possible.I am sure you all will feel his

blessings soon but before start chanting not forget to Pranaam Shri Ram ji first

each time.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Regards

>>>>>>Shashi Shekhar

>>>>>> " Shaaswat_Jyotish "

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>[Live Simply, Love Generously, Care Deeply, Speak Politely,Behave Honestly

and Leave the rest to KindGOD]

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

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