Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Narasimha ji I have not participated much before in the group and whatever little astrology have learnt is from your lectures. I agree fully with your views and for the sake of many others who would like an impartial free software to be available ....Please do not transfer ownership of Jhora. 1.I really salute your patience in answering so many people and can only imagine the amount of work that went into producing this amazing piece of software. Looking at parashara's light , jyoti star or other softwares ...just from a novice's point of view they even do not seem to come close. 2.Also I take it as an sign of divine providence that K N Rao ji has also written a similar article on his website .It is a very honest article and it was written few days back and his opinion and amazingly he had the same opinion as you .Probably the reason you got clubbed with him. This is the article published on 5 March 2010 on some famous astrologers.He also said that this will be the last time he comments on this topic. http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=279 3.Please continue your independent research and Jhora will serve as an vehicle for this. Also the option to follow individual teachers with the click of an button is very thoughtful of you. People should not have dragged K N Rao or Manish Pandit ji's names into this discussion. I really salute your patience once again Narasimha ji ....and hopefully you can continue to keep Jhora independent. Regards Vemparla Ram Kishore vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Just trying to eliminate any potential confusion, Raviji. > > Such as " two persons " , not 'two groups' :-) > > RR_, > > vedic astrology , " sbt_ravi " <sbt_ravi@> wrote: > > > > Dear RRji, > > You give me a chuckle with your so innocent correction " Proprietor? " during this hot mudslinging going on between two groups. > > > > Thanks for the moment in so serious situation! Only you can come up something like this. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ravi. > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Did you mean to write " Proprietor? " > > > > > > vedic astrology , " biswa108 " <biswa1975@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Jai Jagannath > > > > > > > > *you remains the sole property of the self-claimed astrological great in his parampara!* > > > > > > > > they may be blessed by you by making their Name, Fame, etc etc...but we don't want to become someone special but seeks shelter on your lotus feet...we don't need anything more... > > > > > > > > Jai Jagannath > > > > Biswajit > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that is exactly what I said - because of Jagannath. That is something you will not understand in this lifetime, unless maybe you have His grace. > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kiran.rama > > > > > Friday, March 12, 2010 12:53 AM > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Transferring JHora Ownership > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are telling that the only reason you used JHora software is because it has Jagannatha in it. Well - you used it because Jagannatha Hora is the best software in the world > > > > > > > > > > I have used parasara, Kala hora, sri jyoti star etc - and they are not even near JHora. > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jyoti star is $400+, Jyotish readings are $200+, ..... > > > > > It is all money making > > > > > Narasimha ji could have made a lot of money by selling it like Andrew. He is a great man to have not fallen to the desire to do so. It would have taken him years of effort to develop a masterpiece like JHora > > > > > > > > > > One request to Narasimha ji: Never give away your JHora software to anyone - if anything keep a lite version sourcecode free at sourceforge.net or some site - and that too is not necessary > > > > > Other software need atleast 50-100 years to catch up with JHora > > > > > > > > > > Astrology today has been harmed greatly with all pseudo-knowledge. There are 100 ways to interpret a chart and you could come to multiple conclusions by looking at it. God has sent PVRji to cleanse astrology today > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Kiran > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " guruji " <sjrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vinay ji > > > > > > Thank you for your kind suggestion, but that was not my intent. I wanted to show the real intention of someone and have succeeded in doing so. > > > > > > I have no desire for that software. What will I do with it? I have so many software and also the top Sri Jyoti Star. I am now going to try to talk to Andrew to give a small version free for the jyotish learners. I think you also have a good software, then there is Kala Hora software, Parashara Software .... > > > > > > I have nothing to do with this JHora software. It was dear because it had a name *Jagannath* ... who is so dear. > > > > > > Jai Bharati > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru Dakshinaa is Dakshataa of the shishya which itself gives pleasure > > > > > > > to the Guru. A real Guru should not expect more. And a good Shishya must > > > > > > > never use foul words even for his/her former guru, even if the guru goes > > > > > > > astray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing the state of things at present, PVR's following statement is the > > > > > > > best possible solution of the current turmoil : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I will be happy to add a menu item to apply SJC recommended settings, > > > > > > > if you (ie, Sanjay Rath Ji) or an SJC committee standardize the settings > > > > > > > and send them to me via a jhora.ini file. If you or an SJC committee > > > > > > > decide that something more is needed, I can review the expectations and > > > > > > > judge whether and how I can help. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if SJC does not send such a recommendation, PVR knows what SJC > > > > > > > wants, perhaps. Hence Rao Ji can add a SJC option separately. It will > > > > > > > ameliorate the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > > ================== === > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sanjay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us assume that Narasimha has become completely spiritual > > > > > > > > > and has become very renounced - what do you think he will do > > > > > > > > > if I ask him to transfer -- > > > > > > > > > (1) Ownership of JHora to Sri Jagannath Center > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If my spiritual guru asks me to do it, I will do so without batting an > > > > > > > eyelid. However, he has warned of this and explicitly forbade me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I decided a few years back to make JHora open source and leave > > > > > > > JHora programming to others, my spiritual guru asked me to rethink. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In July 2009, he suddenly told me without any context, " they are going > > > > > > > to try to take over Jagannatha Hora. You must stand firm and not allow > > > > > > > that. I know you want to get out of this, but there is more you need to > > > > > > > do for the Jyotish world and JHora is an important vehicle. If they take > > > > > > > over, all your effort so far will go waste. They will promote dogmatism, > > > > > > > create confusion, kill research and eventually make it commercial like > > > > > > > everything else they are doing today. You must stand firm. They will > > > > > > > invoke Krishna's name, but realize that nobody owns Krishna. I forbid > > > > > > > you from giving away JHora to them. Own it, keep it free and add new > > > > > > > researches to it. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Note: I am mentioning this publicly with the permission of my guru.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very interestingly, just a few days after he said this, you wrote on > > > > > > > the lists, " I think the time has come when PVR Narasimha and SJC have to > > > > > > > part ways " , because I had no " faith in Jagannath Mahaprabhu " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And, just a few days later, you wanted a team decided by SJC to take > > > > > > > over JHora and create an " SJC version " , as there were too many options > > > > > > > in JHora. I immediately remembered my guru's words and saw this is as > > > > > > > the first step of what he described. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This was my reply to you from August 2009: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I will continue to maintain " Jagannatha Hora " software effort for > > > > > > > some more time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Jagannatha Hora will continue to support " non-SJC " calculations > > > > > > > and options in the interest of the advancement of Jyotish knowledge. As > > > > > > > I said, I will be happy to add a menu item to apply SJC recommended > > > > > > > settings, if you or an SJC committee standardize the settings and send > > > > > > > them to me via a jhora.ini file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you or an SJC committee decide that something more is needed, I can > > > > > > > review the expectations and judge whether and how I can help. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though addressed to someone else, I realize that the above question > > > > > > > about transferring the " ownership of JHora " is indirectly meant for me. > > > > > > > But, you already know my answer! I reproduced it above anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings, > > > > > > > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana: > > > > > > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > > > > > Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org > > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > > Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " sjrath@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > Dear Raj > > > > > > > > > When you give something to someone, who is the owner of it? You or > > > > > > > the person to whom you gave it? > > > > > > > > > So according to this simple logic, who is supposed to be the owner > > > > > > > of Jagannath Hora? If it is not Sanjay Rath, then it was never given to > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > Secondly, I don't want to make money from this software or such > > > > > > > things, so then what if I wish something and it is not done regarding > > > > > > > the software, can we say that I am even a partial owner of the software? > > > > > > > So how is the *Guru Dakshina?* > > > > > > > > > In view of the above, some of your statements may seem very > > > > > > > untruthful. In future I can only suggest that you at least get the facts > > > > > > > right before making statements, else you may be seen as one who is > > > > > > > telling lies easily. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you think I am worried about changing of names of JHora, you are > > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > Now let me tell you and other list members another thing - > > > > > > > > > This Vedic Astrology list was created long time back in 1998 by > > > > > > > Narasimha on behalf of Sri Jagannath. Other groups were created by > > > > > > > another old student ran away with the SJVC websites and groups. > > > > > > > One thief called Dinanath Das. So, technically Narasimha was entrusted > > > > > > > with the responsibility of having public forum for Sri Jagannath Center. > > > > > > > > > Now, can you please check and tell me *who is the owner of Vedic > > > > > > > Astrology List*? Is this Narasimha or SJC? And if Narasimha runs away > > > > > > > with this list (who is to stop him?), in what way is he any different > > > > > > > from the previous ones who ran away with things entrusted to them? > > > > > > > > > Let us assume that Narasimha has become completely spiritual and has > > > > > > > become very renounced - what do you think he will do if I ask him to > > > > > > > transfer -- > > > > > > > > > (1) Ownership of JHora to Sri Jagannath Center > > > > > > > > > (2) Ownership of this list to say ... You Raj, you can handle this > > > > > > > list of Jagannath. You seem to have faith in Krishna. > > > > > > > > > Jaya Bharati > > > > > > > > > Regards ~ > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > > http://srath.cpm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > Monday, March 08, 2010 3:07 PM > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Too many options in JHora > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For quite sometime a lot is being contributed by people who > > > > > > > seemingly > > > > > > > > > have their own axe of little knowledge to grind between a Guru and > > > > > > > > > Shishya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With due respect to all, as an humble learner of astrology the > > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > thoughts have been occuring in my mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (a) Guru Sanjay Rath had shishyas world over, it is only his great > > > > > > > > > shishya Narsimha Ji, who gave the world 'JHora " .The website of > > > > > > > Narsimha > > > > > > > > > Ji acknowledges Sanjay Ji His Guru, Still. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (b) Has Narsimha Ji not repaid the rina of Guru with his great work > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > JHora, to a very great extent.How many other shishyas do so in the > > > > > > > > > present times.How the repayment of rina to a Guru and in what > > > > > > > quantum is > > > > > > > > > fixed, by whom, where,how long ?During every death and birth cycle > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the Shishya ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > © Many learned and experienced Jyotishis have started finding out > > > > > > > > > flaws with a number of features/calculations/updation in the JHora. > > > > > > > Lots > > > > > > > > > of views and counter views are being generated about the > > > > > > > interpretation > > > > > > > > > of BPHS and it's usage in JHora. Has any other > > > > > > > vidwana/sawant/scholar > > > > > > > > > (Guru Sanjay Rath Ji and his scholarly shisyas also included)shown > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > brriliance in any such creation matching the present JHora!Why all > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > hell bent upon creating Tamasha and and adding fresh sub-scripts for > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > Film, with No End! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (d)Narsimha Ji is being accused of earning Bad Karmas et al. He is > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > his best to bear the onslaught of accusations from world over, even > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > any Tom and Dick....Does he has no right to work peacefully on his > > > > > > > > > projects ? Imagine Narsimha Ji ,due to his so called bad karmas, > > > > > > > faces > > > > > > > > > the greatest Predicament like Arjuna in Mahabharata > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and gets a view of the Viraata Krishna ! What may happen ? He can > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > > the name of JHora to DHora or XHora, changes the Main Symbol,rename > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > ND, will any one have the right to question him ? He has all the > > > > > > > Kunjis > > > > > > > > > with him and we are living in So-called " Kaliyuga " , as if nothing of > > > > > > > > > this sort has ever happened in Satyuga and Tretayuga etc. Can anyone > > > > > > > > > create a new JHora ? Who will remember Guru Sanjay Ji's contribution > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > JHora ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are all living in glass houses and throwing stones at each > > > > > > > other's > > > > > > > > > houses. PERIOD. I beg, as one of the humble students of Jyotish. > > > > > > > PEACE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Manoj ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay did not seem to have any knowledge of Parampara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is some genuine uncommon knowledge taught by Sanjay ji. For > > > > > > > > > example, Tithi Pravesha works very well. Of course, it may be > > > > > > > imperfect > > > > > > > > > (e.g. solar vs soli-lunar issue I mentioned before), but it works > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > well. As it is not found in any books or classics and as there > > > > > > > weren't > > > > > > > > > too many people who used it before he popularized it, it is > > > > > > > reasonable > > > > > > > > > to assume that Sanjay ji did know some secrets. But the quality of > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > teachings is quite erratic and non-uniform. I disagree with you > > > > > > > > > regarding Parampara and stand by my reading of the situation as > > > > > > > > > described in the mail below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Neelam ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember Sh K N Rao's words today. Last year he said on one > > > > > > > > > occasion that > > > > > > > > > > > Narsimha is in wrong hands, but he will come out of this soon! > > > > > > > > > Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > makes much sense, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting that Sri K.N. Rao should be interested in my > > > > > > > > > horoscope. Please convey my regards to him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, it is not factually correct to say that I " came out " NOW. > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > first communicated with Sanjay ji in late 1997 and became his > > > > > > > student in > > > > > > > > > spring 1998. I learnt some good knowledge in the next few years. As > > > > > > > > > Sanjay ji maintains an air of " there is more to this, but I will > > > > > > > teach > > > > > > > > > it later " , you keep giving him the benefit of doubt. I started > > > > > > > noticing > > > > > > > > > inconsistencies in his knowledge and started questioning him, as > > > > > > > soon as > > > > > > > > > 2001-2002. I maintained intellectual independence in all public > > > > > > > > > exchanges. From 2004, I gave up on Sanjay ji. I convinced myself > > > > > > > that I > > > > > > > > > am dealing with highly corrupted knowledge that also contains some > > > > > > > gems > > > > > > > > > and started independent research to sort things. My intention was to > > > > > > > > > clean up the mess while remaining within his organization. During > > > > > > > > > 2005-2006, I nearly gave up astrology as my mind was drawn towards > > > > > > > god. > > > > > > > > > After the seed for the " do homam yourself " movement was sown in > > > > > > > 2006, I > > > > > > > > > was back to astrology seriously. I vigorously pursued independent > > > > > > > > > astrology research in 2006-2009, without any expectations and with a > > > > > > > > > much calmer frame of mind. Some of the findings are shared, some are > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the pipeline and some need to be perfected still. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I still did not come clean with my honest opinions on > > > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > > ji to caution other students. My spiritual master asked me to stand > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > truth without fear and not tolerate dishonesty. He wisely wondered > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > fear of offending teacher and creating confusion in people's mind by > > > > > > > > > rocking the applecart were the only considerations in my mind or if > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > was also sub-consciously concerned about losing something by being > > > > > > > > > truthful and going against them. He reminded me that we come with > > > > > > > > > nothing and go with nothing and why should we fear anything or seek > > > > > > > > > anything. He told me to be truthful and honest and do my dharma > > > > > > > > > sincerely. It slowly sunk in. From 2007-2008, I started hinting at > > > > > > > > > Sanjay ji's dishonesty and misrepresentations publicly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus, my " coming out " started long back and has been unfolding > > > > > > > slowly. > > > > > > > > > As far as Jyotish knowledge is concerned, I've been on my own for > > > > > > > > > several years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings, > > > > > > > > > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > > > > > > > Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org > > > > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember Sh K N Rao's words today. Last year he said on one > > > > > > > > > occasion that > > > > > > > > > > > Narsimha is in wrong hands, but he will come out of this soon! > > > > > > > > > Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > makes much sense, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A journey of 17 years through the long-winded tunnel! But the > > > > > > > > > intelligent > > > > > > > > > > > enigma has dug really deep and collected much wealth to start > > > > > > > > > afresh! I > > > > > > > > > > > appreciate his knowledge and scientific probes which he shares > > > > > > > > > freely, not > > > > > > > > > > > to mention the great service done through JHora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes to Narsimha ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4 March 2010 10:33, Manoj Kumar mouji99@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as my knowledge goes and my acquaintance with Sanjay is > > > > > > > > > concerned > > > > > > > > > > > > (when he was working in Delhi at Krishi Bhawan), Sanjay did > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > seem to have > > > > > > > > > > > > any knowledge of Parampara. His uncles (both paternal and > > > > > > > > > maternal) did not > > > > > > > > > > > > even consult him astrologically then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay ji has some good knowledge from parampara, but, having > > > > > > > seen > > > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > > closely, I am afraid he got addicted to the adulation he > > > > > > > received > > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > > > > community for those secrets. After he ran out of genuine > > > > > > > parampara > > > > > > > > > secrets, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am afraid he started *manufacturing* " parampara secrets " > > > > > > > > > irresponsibly. If > > > > > > > > > > > > a good researcher disguised his researches as parampara > > > > > > > secrets, > > > > > > > > > it would've > > > > > > > > > > > > been less disastrous. But, unfortunately, Sanjay ji is the > > > > > > > worst > > > > > > > > > researcher > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen. He has a highly intuitive mind that can think of > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > many things > > > > > > > > > > > > and connect them in all kinds of ways. Unfortunately, he jumps > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > serious > > > > > > > > > > > > conclusions at the drop of a hat, without any logic or > > > > > > > practical > > > > > > > > > testing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even in practical testing, he uses such highly flexible and > > > > > > > vague > > > > > > > > > logic that > > > > > > > > > > > > he can justify any result with any astrological factor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Somebody who would be really really good at coming up with > > > > > > > *ideas* > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > research is unfortunately presenting those raw ideas by > > > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > > > explicitly > > > > > > > > > > > > and sometimes implicitly representing them as the wisdom of a > > > > > > > > > glorious > > > > > > > > > > > > parampara. I've seen this closely for a long time. Sanjay ji > > > > > > > > > revolutionized > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish when he came, but he has been corrupting the subject > > > > > > > badly > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > several years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant to say the above in such blunt words for a long time > > > > > > > now, > > > > > > > > > but I > > > > > > > > > > > > could not and I kept beating around the bush. Until the day I > > > > > > > > > could not say > > > > > > > > > > > > it without even a little anger or frustration in my heart, I > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > not want to > > > > > > > > > > > > use such blunt language. Thanks to the grace of my spiritual > > > > > > > > > master, I am > > > > > > > > > > > > today able to say the above without a trace of frustration or > > > > > > > > > anger in my > > > > > > > > > > > > heart and in the same way I may state routine observations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even in other options, maybe they need to be separated > > > > > > > clearly > > > > > > > > > so as to > > > > > > > > > > > > avoid confusions for novices like me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JHora has hundreds of options because we are unsure of so many > > > > > > > > > things. We > > > > > > > > > > > > are groping in the dark. Of course, some people may be > > > > > > > glorifying > > > > > > > > > and even > > > > > > > > > > > > *selling* that darkness, but that means nothing to me. As a > > > > > > > > > reasonably > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent and conscientious pursuer of Truth, I do know the > > > > > > > > > difference > > > > > > > > > > > > between light and darkness. I do know the light we have in the > > > > > > > > > room is > > > > > > > > > > > > slowly growing, but I also know that it is still relatively > > > > > > > dark. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologers are used to seeing any shapes they want in clouds. > > > > > > > > > What we need > > > > > > > > > > > > is quantifiable, measurable and objective rules and methods > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > impassioned > > > > > > > > > > > > search for truth by people who do not have a conflict of > > > > > > > interest. > > > > > > > > > My > > > > > > > > > > > > personal belief is that we will make great progress over the > > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > > decade and > > > > > > > > > > > > there will be more light in the field of Jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The seed was sown by Dr B.V. Raman, who wrote many books on > > > > > > > > > astrology in > > > > > > > > > > > > English and brought the subject to mainstream intelligentsia. > > > > > > > Sri > > > > > > > > > K.N. Rao > > > > > > > > > > > > did yeoman service by taking a stand on ayanamsa and bringing > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > focus to > > > > > > > > > > > > divisional charts etc and the seed became a plant. Pt Sanjay > > > > > > > Rath > > > > > > > > > took the > > > > > > > > > > > > focus back to the works of maharshis like Parasara and Jaimini > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > brought > > > > > > > > > > > > several restricted parameters into the mainstream. However, as > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > > > grew big, a lot of large weeds came up around the plant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The hundreds of options in JHora are partly reflective of the > > > > > > > > > weeds we > > > > > > > > > > > > have. We need to remove weeds and let the plant grow nicely > > > > > > > into a > > > > > > > > > tree. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, it has to be done carefully. It will be a shame if > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > actual plant > > > > > > > > > > > > is hurt instead of the weeds. JHora and our understanding of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > > > > > of rishis will continue to evolve for some more years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om gurave namah > > > > > Dear > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Bharati > > > > > Regards ~ > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > http://srath.cpm > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Namaste! I second this opinion and agree with it all. Majid Buell (long time user of Jhora, also a user of other Jyotish softwares so I can make comparisons). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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