Efeect of the dasa of debilitated saturn

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Can any body analyse for me what will be the result of the dasa of saturn when

the following conditions prevail:

 

1.Saturn is debilitated and is in 9 th from lagna and is the lord of 6 th and 

7 th houses

2.Saturn is in conjunction with Mars and Venus and is aspected by Jupiter.all

with in a renge of 14 degrees

3.Saturn has an ashtakavarga strength of 1 in Aries

4.Saturn is the fourth dasa from the birth

 

DOB Is 02.04.1970 , Hyderabad,India  ,TOB is 16.37 Hrs

 

Kindly let me know

Thank You

 

 

--- On Sat, 20/3/10, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote:

 

 

Sanjay Rath <sjrath

Re: [vedic astrology] Too many options in JHora

vedic astrology

Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 12:31 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Narasimha,

 

It is you who is corrupting the knowledge and are using tactics like Hitler's

propaganda machine to constantly use my name for this purpose. Like Hitler you

too have four planets in Aries with Lagnesh and the Sun is in the 7th house.

These are the people who want to start a completely new world order. Now I need

to try to put things once again in the right perspective as you are again

twisting things -

 

1. Regarding Kala Chakra Dasha: You have stated a whole lot of statements in

very bad taste without even realising that from 2004 I had completely stopped

talking to you. That was the second last time I saw you, the last being the

California conference of 2006. Why should I teach one as ungrateful as you? Dd

you think that I am such a simple fool from a backward state like Orissa that I

would take the trouble of teaching one as arrogant and puffed up like you? So

when you presented the KCD, I thought you had understood what I was talking

about but the truth is that you never understood anything. You were too busy

trying to decipher a little telugu book you had and were not even listening to

what I was saying. So I knew better.

Now the paper you sent to the Bombay conference reads *by PVR Narasimha Rao and

Sanjay Rath* but I have *not changed a single word that you wrote*. It is

completely your paper and it was simply published. I DID NOT present that paper.

I taught the Kala Chakra Dasha basics as it was taught in our tradition. Later

in 2005, London I have taught the Kala Chakra Dasha completely to Gordon,

Mariella and others. You can get the recordings.

Now you don’t even know what Kala Chakra Dasha I have taught and you have

jumped to conclusions, made cheap remarks and are again doing the Hitler thing.

Now you become Parashara champion and then you say D144 is for past life. Your

interpretation will always be limited by your thinking and for some of the sloka

you will never have an answer. Some shloka which you think are perfect and have

vouched your entire faith faith on, are recorded incorrectly. How will you ever

know? Meditation??

 

2. If you knew from 2004 that I was wrong or that all of SJC is wrong and bad or

evil or whatever that you are saying in your propaganda machine, why did you

become CHAIRMAN of SJC from 2006 till 2009 (when you were asked to leave)? Whay

have you done for SJC other than using it as a platform for self propaganda and

aggrandizement? In fact you took the responsibility to simply destroy SJC. What

enmity you have with Krishna? Why did you do this? Why did you not decline and

give up the responsibility if you did not agree with SJC views? Why did you

become chairman and do such an evil thing against SJC?

This has reference to a mail of yours dated 3-4 March which was shown to me

today. I have been missing most of the mails due to my writing work. This has

come as a big shock for me. Why did you do such a thing. If you were straight as

you claim, you should have left SJC for all that you say. Not only have you

shown that you are weak but also some very bad karma has been generated by this

clandestine behavior. I will not hold this against you but expect you to make

some amends. Talk to your guru about this before you continue in this tirade.

 

If you think you can provoke me to start teaching here by making all those

accusations, the tactics will not work. Your knowledge is not even half baked -

its raw. I have done good work and made some serious progress in teaching the

Jaimini scholars and now there is a Parashara Hora course. In another few years

you will be lost in the darkness that you have chosen to be with.

 

In the name of Brihaspati

I remain

Sanjay Rath

 

Narasimha PVR Rao

Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:54 PM

vedic astrology ; ;

JyotishWritings ; jhora

[vedic astrology] Too many options in JHora

 

Dear Partha,

 

> Dear Narasimha

>

> The contradictions seem to be too many. First it was sudasa,

> now it is kalachakra dasa. It is far too confusing. Just like

> you added options for Chara dasa( K N Rao, Rangacharya method)

> etc, i guess you can make it KCD Rath, and KCD Narasimha etc.

 

In the case of Sudasa, Sanjay ji kept changing the definition everytime we met

for a conference. First, I assumed he was testing us and wanted us to figure out

what is correct. Later, I concluded that he himself is not sure. However, my

belief is that he received some knowledge in the parampara regarding Sudasa,

which did not stick with him perfectly and hence the confusion.

 

In the case of KCD, I am quite sure Sanjay ji does not have any secrets from

parampara. He told me several times that he relied on *me* to crack the KCD and

ashtakavarga puzzles. He was very excited when I revealed the basic KCD idea to

him. I am afraid he simply hijacked what I shared with him and what I later

wrote as a paper in our joint names and running with it now. The only thing I do

not know is by how much exactly he changed what he hijacked and how badly it

deviates from Parasara in areas where Parasara is clear.

 

* * *

 

Sanjay ji has some good knowledge from parampara, but, having seen him closely,

I am afraid he got addicted to the adulation he received from the community for

those secrets. After he ran out of genuine parampara secrets, I am afraid he

started *manufacturing* " parampara secrets " irresponsibly. If a good researcher

disguised his researches as parampara secrets, it would've been less disastrous.

But, unfortunately, Sanjay ji is the worst researcher I have seen. He has a

highly intuitive mind that can think of so many things and connect them in all

kinds of ways. Unfortunately, he jumps to serious conclusions at the drop of a

hat, without any logic or practical testing. Even in practical testing, he uses

such highly flexible and vague logic that he can justify any result with any

astrological factor.

 

Somebody who would be really really good at coming up with *ideas* for research

is unfortunately presenting those raw ideas by sometimes explicitly and

sometimes implicitly representing them as the wisdom of a glorious parampara.

I've seen this closely for a long time. Sanjay ji revolutionized Jyotish when he

came, but he has been corrupting the subject badly for several years now.

 

I meant to say the above in such blunt words for a long time now, but I could

not and I kept beating around the bush. Until the day I could not say it without

even a little anger or frustration in my heart, I did not want to use such blunt

language. Thanks to the grace of my spiritual master, I am today able to say the

above without a trace of frustration or anger in my heart and in the same way I

may state routine observations.

 

* * *

 

> Even in other options, maybe they need to be separated clearly so as to avoid

confusions for novices like me.

>

> regards

> Partha

 

JHora has hundreds of options because we are unsure of so many things. We are

groping in the dark. Of course, some people may be glorifying and even *selling*

that darkness, but that means nothing to me. As a reasonably intelligent and

conscientious pursuer of Truth, I do know the difference between light and

darkness. I do know the light we have in the room is slowly growing, but I also

know that it is still relatively dark.

 

Astrologers are used to seeing any shapes they want in clouds. What we need is

quantifiable, measurable and objective rules and methods and impassioned search

for truth by people who do not have a conflict of interest. My personal belief

is that we will make great progress over the next decade and there will be more

light in the field of Jyotish.

 

The seed was sown by Dr B.V. Raman, who wrote many books on astrology in English

and brought the subject to mainstream intelligentsia. Sri K.N. Rao did yeoman

service by taking a stand on ayanamsa and bringing the focus to divisional

charts etc and the seed became a plant. Pt Sanjay Rath took the focus back to

the works of maharshis like Parasara and Jaimini and brought several restricted

parameters into the mainstream. However, as the plant grew big, a lot of large

weeds came up around the plant.

 

The hundreds of options in JHora are partly reflective of the weeds we have. We

need to remove weeds and let the plant grow nicely into a tree. However, it has

to be done carefully. It will be a shame if the actual plant is hurt instead of

the weeds. JHora and our understanding of the knowledge of rishis will continue

to evolve for some more years.