Summary of x lord in y house vs. y lord in x house

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There are 2 approaches to astrology:

1. Logic

2. Yogas and Intuition.

I am using the first approach

 

I am not trying to make a prediction out of 4HL in 6H or vice-versa for a chart.

Inorder to interpret all factors, one must know what will be the significance of

each factor in its own.

 

I will summarize my learnings on this so far from various groups:

 

1. From Francois ji:

x lord in y house means 'y house significations' happen through 'x house'. I

found this very convincing:

Say lagna lord in 10H. then '10H significations' happen through 'lagna': meaning

career happens through efforts of native. e.g.: Somebody like Sidhu - not the

most talented but having a big heart and hardwork

Say vice-versa: then 'native' happens through '10H Significations': meaning the

native was blessed with inherent abilities for a good career. e.g: Somebody like

Sachin - the most talented and automatically getting what he wants

 

2. From Sreenadh ji:

Always see sign->house->planet for results for x lord in y house:

 

so for 4HL in 6H, you have to see:

results specified by sign that the 6H is in

then what 6H signifies

then what the 4HL signifies

and what is promised by each i.e. the intersection will only prevail

 

Now from 4HL in 6H alone, that which is specified by both 6H and the 4HL and the

planet that is the 4HL will apply

 

However I am confused if this is to be applied in case of house lordship only or

in case of planet occupancy also

 

Thanks

Kiran

 

 

vedic astrology , " astroimran " <astroimran wrote:

>

> Dear Kiran and members,

>

> The issue appears quite interesting. I would like to add my two cents.

>

> First of all, matter of bhaveshphalam (i.e. house lord effects in different

houses) comes after grahaphalam (i.e. planets effect in different houses) as far

as order of importance is concerned.

>

> Secondly, in Jyoytish:

>

> " Effect of X-House lord in Y-House is NOT equal to Y-House lord in X-House

(vide BPHS Chapter 24 and prior 12 Chapters). "

>

> As stated above grahaphalam is important than bhaveshphalam (note that

Parashar, in his BPHS, first taught bhavphal and grahaphal then discussed

bhaveshphal). Even if you ignore this concept then no inference can be deducted

on the basis of mere 'house-lord-result'. Since all the 12 houses are not

uniform in strength. Furthermore they simultaneously contain significations

(karakattvas) of various areas of life and fall in sign who are different in

nature and attributes. So in my humble opinion, no thesis can be established on

the line of algebra in 'predictive astrology'.

>

> Apart from it, the subject of parivartana is not usual. Planets in mutual

exchange behave in entirely different fashion, especially in their respective

dashas.

>

> Sincerely,

> M. Imran

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote:

> >

> > Let me apply this rightaway:

> >

> > 4H: real estate, mother

> > 6H: difficulties/debts, diseases, enemies

> >

> > 4HL in 6H:

> > things signified by 4H will be the cause of things signified by 6H

> > so the cause of difficulties/debts, diseases and enemies will be mother and

real estate

> >

> > 6HL in 4H:

> > things signified by 6H will be the cause of things signified by 4H

> > So the cause of mother, real estate will be difficulties & diseases

> >

> > Consider real estate and debt:

> > 4HL in 6H will mean real estate will be the cause of debt

> > 6HL in 4H will mean debt is the cause of real estate

> >

> > Don't they both imply that real estate was acquired through a loan?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Kiran

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " Francois CARRIERE " <yl.car.fr@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > One of the subtleties of astrology is how the results of how 'x lord in

y house' differ from 'y lord in x house'

> > >

> > > Actually there is another rule in western astrology I use in jyotish,

which is sometimes helpful (but not every times, since the position of the

planet analogy in the house is more important and it stands both in western

astrology and jyotish). Also, L.R. Chawdhri (Scientific Analysis of Horoscope,

Sagar Pub.) use it also in his studies of each Ascendants.

> > >

> > > The rule suppose a " cause " and an " end " for each House. It goes like this:

> > >

> > > - Let say we are studying House " Y " and Lord of " X " is in house " Y " , then

something signifed by House " X " will be the _cause_ of something signified by

" Y " . This indicates how something begins in house " Y " .

> > >

> > > - Let say now we are studying House " Y " with its Lord in House " X " , then

something signified by House " X " will be the result (how it will " end " ) of the

things signifed by House " Y " .

> > >

> > > Hope it helps and it is clear! ;-)

> > >

> > > --

> > > Best regards,

> > > François

> > >

> >

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