Truth, a strange word (but cannot be a moving target!);-).

[Guest guest]

Dear Arun Bhai (tumnay Da bola so mainay JI drop kar diya!),

 

Yes, that is one way to skin the cat, although I was using the simple and

straightforward: 1,4,7,10 of jyotish. But a change in the order of the elements

as done by you is fine too as far as I am concerned.

 

My perspective is a bit different, Arun, and many may not like it, but here

goes:

 

The child when it was born had two centers in the brain: The center for fear and

uncertainty AND the center for Unconditional Love. Through these bipolar states

and their interplay, life unfolds as heaven or hell. It is not that MA comes and

takes us in her loving lap and embraces us to assuage OUR FEARS. RATHER, we

reach deep inside ourselves and find HER and we embrace HER and thus find the

Center of Unconditional Love within ourselves.

 

Sadly, it seems, Human beings are hard-wired to reach that other center

(fear-aggression-annihilation-hate) more readily and most human beings are lazy

and would rather take short-cuts even knowing that it would get them in trouble

and in moving closer to the Center of FEAR they would be moving farther away

from the MA Centre!

 

That is how I would CHOOSE to skin the cat! :-)

 

RR_,

 

vedic astrology , " arun " <aruninthecity wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Da,

>

> I wish your prediction come true, but i was not referring toward Mayans etc. i

wish at least one is helped by my message.

>

> Main--> purusha

> Woh --> Prakriti

> Ma --> Divine order

> Karma

>

> When purusha enters prakriti in desire to drive it; it results in karma. MA

has set up the stage for the play and promotes and demotes purusha based on his

performance. Some realize this and get tired of this game...

>

> What goes around comes back… therefore It’s good to play fair.

>

> Da, why would all fear of a child disappears, when he/she is embraced by

MA(literal)?

> What is the reason behind MA unconditional love?

>

> Answer to these questions is important to understand divine order...

>

> Even better question is to understand difference between flamed and

shrouded...

>

> After lot of falls i realize that when we call someone as " chandal " , it will

literally start behaving in the same fashion for us.

>

> Kindly don't add " Jee " , in end of my name. Its a malevolence hard to remove.

>

> Thanks, for many things...

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Regards,

> Arun.

>

>

> vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Using {} to encircle 'HIGH' ASCII Characters!

> >

> > As Mars moves towards Simha and Shani stops moving towards SIMHA --

hopefully the earthquakes will stop and the stand-off between USA and IRAN will

cease to be and the WORLD will be preserved for future generations, as opposed

to becoming a prophecy fulfilled by Da Vinci or The Mayans!

> >

> > I prefer the four-fold categorization as opposed to the three-fold trikonas

that you have chosen! Kal--Aaj-Kal!

> >

> > My preference is more mundane and more 'ihalaukik'

> >

> > Main, MA, WOH, KARMA...!

> >

> > Only an ordinary Grihasta can understand that! I hope you are one, *Arun*

jee! ;-)

> >

> > Sa_vinay sweekaar karayn yeh meri peshkash!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini Da,

 

sur and asur, heaven and hell, love and fear both are two face of a coin known

as truth. Destiny tosses the coin and chooses a side for us. Of course one has

“free willâ€, to save once sole from further fall.

 

In kali yuga, its difficult to save once fall then their come Krishna to save

Rama. One should understand it, before it’s too late.

 

Of course it’s not a “moving targetâ€; Krishna is their to help us sail

through this kali yuga.

 

“Fear†and “Loveâ€, two opposite face of the same coin.

 

“Fear†results in “Vaamarga†and “love†results in “Devotionâ€.

 

It’s all about gaining control over once “Fearâ€. Even “Fear†has its

ways to delusion. Like all fear disappear by embrace of MA. But perhaps that is

not why man is born.

 

Perhaps man is born to control his fears and to follow the righteousness.

 

If one is delusional then one should break free these enchantments for the sake

of righteousness.

 

To promote once spiritual growth on should choose wisely and stick to it.

 

If some part of car is not working properly then one can only attempt to repair

it. What the point in removing a part which will cease the car to stop

functioning.

 

One Should have Faith in Krishna.

 

Hare Rama Krishna,

Regards,

Arun.

 

vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Arun Bhai (tumnay Da bola so mainay JI drop kar diya!),

>

> Yes, that is one way to skin the cat, although I was using the simple and

straightforward: 1,4,7,10 of jyotish. But a change in the order of the elements

as done by you is fine too as far as I am concerned.

>

> My perspective is a bit different, Arun, and many may not like it, but here

goes:

>

> The child when it was born had two centers in the brain: The center for fear

and uncertainty AND the center for Unconditional Love. Through these bipolar

states and their interplay, life unfolds as heaven or hell. It is not that MA

comes and takes us in her loving lap and embraces us to assuage OUR FEARS.

RATHER, we reach deep inside ourselves and find HER and we embrace HER and thus

find the Center of Unconditional Love within ourselves.

>

> Sadly, it seems, Human beings are hard-wired to reach that other center

(fear-aggression-annihilation-hate) more readily and most human beings are lazy

and would rather take short-cuts even knowing that it would get them in trouble

and in moving closer to the Center of FEAR they would be moving farther away

from the MA Centre!

>

> That is how I would CHOOSE to skin the cat! :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> vedic astrology , " arun " <aruninthecity@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Da,

> >

> > I wish your prediction come true, but i was not referring toward Mayans etc.

i wish at least one is helped by my message.

> >

> > Main--> purusha

> > Woh --> Prakriti

> > Ma --> Divine order

> > Karma

> >

> > When purusha enters prakriti in desire to drive it; it results in karma. MA

has set up the stage for the play and promotes and demotes purusha based on his

performance. Some realize this and get tired of this game...

> >

> > What goes around comes back… therefore It’s good to play fair.

> >

> > Da, why would all fear of a child disappears, when he/she is embraced by

MA(literal)?

> > What is the reason behind MA unconditional love?

> >

> > Answer to these questions is important to understand divine order...

> >

> > Even better question is to understand difference between flamed and

shrouded...

> >

> > After lot of falls i realize that when we call someone as " chandal " , it will

literally start behaving in the same fashion for us.

> >

> > Kindly don't add " Jee " , in end of my name. Its a malevolence hard to remove.

> >

> > Thanks, for many things...

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > Regards,

> > Arun.

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Using {} to encircle 'HIGH' ASCII Characters!

> > >

> > > As Mars moves towards Simha and Shani stops moving towards SIMHA --

hopefully the earthquakes will stop and the stand-off between USA and IRAN will

cease to be and the WORLD will be preserved for future generations, as opposed

to becoming a prophecy fulfilled by Da Vinci or The Mayans!

> > >

> > > I prefer the four-fold categorization as opposed to the three-fold

trikonas that you have chosen! Kal--Aaj-Kal!

> > >

> > > My preference is more mundane and more 'ihalaukik'

> > >

> > > Main, MA, WOH, KARMA...!

> > >

> > > Only an ordinary Grihasta can understand that! I hope you are one, *Arun*

jee! ;-)

> > >

> > > Sa_vinay sweekaar karayn yeh meri peshkash!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Arun,

 

Despite all the strange HIGH ASCII characters in your long message and your

closing recommendation to have faith in Krishna, your signature said, " Hare Rama

Krishna " !

 

Did you mean Ramakrishna?

 

Or something else, perhaps? Please provide clarity.

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

vedic astrology , " arun " <aruninthecity wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Da,

>

> sur and asur, heaven and hell, love and fear both are two face of a coin known

as truth. Destiny tosses the coin and chooses a side for us. Of course one has

“free willâ€, to save once sole from further fall.

>

> In kali yuga, its difficult to save once fall then their come Krishna to save

Rama. One should understand it, before it’s too late.

>

> Of course it’s not a “moving targetâ€; Krishna is their to help us sail

through this kali yuga.

>

> “Fear†and “Loveâ€, two opposite face of the same coin.

>

> “Fear†results in “Vaamarga†and “love†results in “Devotionâ€.

>

> It’s all about gaining control over once “Fearâ€. Even “Fear†has its

ways to delusion. Like all fear disappear by embrace of MA. But perhaps that is

not why man is born.

>

> Perhaps man is born to control his fears and to follow the righteousness.

>

> If one is delusional then one should break free these enchantments for the

sake of righteousness.

>

> To promote once spiritual growth on should choose wisely and stick to it.

>

> If some part of car is not working properly then one can only attempt to

repair it. What the point in removing a part which will cease the car to stop

functioning.

>

> One Should have Faith in Krishna.

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Regards,

> Arun.

>

> vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arun Bhai (tumnay Da bola so mainay JI drop kar diya!),

> >

> > Yes, that is one way to skin the cat, although I was using the simple and

straightforward: 1,4,7,10 of jyotish. But a change in the order of the elements

as done by you is fine too as far as I am concerned.

> >

> > My perspective is a bit different, Arun, and many may not like it, but here

goes:

> >

> > The child when it was born had two centers in the brain: The center for fear

and uncertainty AND the center for Unconditional Love. Through these bipolar

states and their interplay, life unfolds as heaven or hell. It is not that MA

comes and takes us in her loving lap and embraces us to assuage OUR FEARS.

RATHER, we reach deep inside ourselves and find HER and we embrace HER and thus

find the Center of Unconditional Love within ourselves.

> >

> > Sadly, it seems, Human beings are hard-wired to reach that other center

(fear-aggression-annihilation-hate) more readily and most human beings are lazy

and would rather take short-cuts even knowing that it would get them in trouble

and in moving closer to the Center of FEAR they would be moving farther away

from the MA Centre!

> >

> > That is how I would CHOOSE to skin the cat! :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > vedic astrology , " arun " <aruninthecity@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini Da,

> > >

> > > I wish your prediction come true, but i was not referring toward Mayans

etc. i wish at least one is helped by my message.

> > >

> > > Main--> purusha

> > > Woh --> Prakriti

> > > Ma --> Divine order

> > > Karma

> > >

> > > When purusha enters prakriti in desire to drive it; it results in karma.

MA has set up the stage for the play and promotes and demotes purusha based on

his performance. Some realize this and get tired of this game...

> > >

> > > What goes around comes back… therefore It’s good to play fair.

> > >

> > > Da, why would all fear of a child disappears, when he/she is embraced by

MA(literal)?

> > > What is the reason behind MA unconditional love?

> > >

> > > Answer to these questions is important to understand divine order...

> > >

> > > Even better question is to understand difference between flamed and

shrouded...

> > >

> > > After lot of falls i realize that when we call someone as " chandal " , it

will literally start behaving in the same fashion for us.

> > >

> > > Kindly don't add " Jee " , in end of my name. Its a malevolence hard to

remove.

> > >

> > > Thanks, for many things...

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > Regards,

> > > Arun.

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Using {} to encircle 'HIGH' ASCII Characters!

> > > >

> > > > As Mars moves towards Simha and Shani stops moving towards SIMHA --

hopefully the earthquakes will stop and the stand-off between USA and IRAN will

cease to be and the WORLD will be preserved for future generations, as opposed

to becoming a prophecy fulfilled by Da Vinci or The Mayans!

> > > >

> > > > I prefer the four-fold categorization as opposed to the three-fold

trikonas that you have chosen! Kal--Aaj-Kal!

> > > >

> > > > My preference is more mundane and more 'ihalaukik'

> > > >

> > > > Main, MA, WOH, KARMA...!

> > > >

> > > > Only an ordinary Grihasta can understand that! I hope you are one,

*Arun* jee! ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Sa_vinay sweekaar karayn yeh meri peshkash!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini Da,

 

Hare -> Shiva -> Rahu -> Shivay

Rama-> Brahma -> Surya -> Om

Krishna-> Vishnu -> Moon ->Namha

 

That is what “hare Rama Krishna†signifies. Is anything else is bigger then

these names…?

 

Dear Da, you are too much worried about high Ascii characters.

 

Someone, whose name starts with H……, is truth. Not to talk about this truth

is Wisdom.

Bhps, is full of wisdom. Not truth perhaps.

Asura Ravana has lot of truth in him, that why he become so powerful that lord

has to come himself to destroy him.

 

Truth bring power and status, wisdom brings spiritual advancements. One has to

make a choice. But when Brahmin of Jupiter vansha chooses truth, he has to face

the consequences.

 

I can’t see any wisdom in Rudramsa.

 

One should learn to differentiate between Truth and Wisdom…!

 

Da, I have to keep you guessing because, even I have to sail through, even I

have to sail through.

 

Other day i delete something because i realize that it has no wisdom.

 

Hare Rama Krishna.

Regards,

Arun.

 

 

vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Arun,

>

> Despite all the strange HIGH ASCII characters in your long message and your

closing recommendation to have faith in Krishna, your signature said, " Hare Rama

Krishna " !

>

> Did you mean Ramakrishna?

>

> Or something else, perhaps? Please provide clarity.

>

> Rohiniranjan

[Guest guest]

Dear Arun bhaiyaa,

 

Please note that you used " WORRY " in your response, at least ONCE whereas I did

not use it even once!

 

Also, I used a term starting with a " c " which you did not, in your posting! ;-)

 

It is good to remain tuned into Nimitta, perhaps...?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " arun " <aruninthecity wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Da,

>

> Hare -> Shiva -> Rahu -> Shivay

> Rama-> Brahma -> Surya -> Om

> Krishna-> Vishnu -> Moon ->Namha

>

> That is what “hare Rama Krishna†signifies. Is anything else is bigger

then these names…?

>

> Dear Da, you are too much worried about high Ascii characters.

>

> Someone, whose name starts with H……, is truth. Not to talk about this

truth is Wisdom.

> Bhps, is full of wisdom. Not truth perhaps.

> Asura Ravana has lot of truth in him, that why he become so powerful that lord

has to come himself to destroy him.

>

> Truth bring power and status, wisdom brings spiritual advancements. One has to

make a choice. But when Brahmin of Jupiter vansha chooses truth, he has to face

the consequences.

>

> I can’t see any wisdom in Rudramsa.

>

> One should learn to differentiate between Truth and Wisdom…!

>

> Da, I have to keep you guessing because, even I have to sail through, even I

have to sail through.

>

> Other day i delete something because i realize that it has no wisdom.

>

> Hare Rama Krishna.

> Regards,

> Arun.

>

>

> vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arun,

> >

> > Despite all the strange HIGH ASCII characters in your long message and your

closing recommendation to have faith in Krishna, your signature said, " Hare Rama

Krishna " !

> >

> > Did you mean Ramakrishna?

> >

> > Or something else, perhaps? Please provide clarity.

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini Da,

 

You have skinned the cat, but Mats and Bats...also falls under the same skin

shade. didn't they.

 

Can anyone dream to bring back some innocents. no, we can only attempt to save

who are left.

 

It good to first understand teaching of krishna, perhaps.

 

Da, my full name is " Arun Kumar Yadav " , we are also known as " yadu vanshi " or

" chandra vansi " . Lord Krishna is also a " yadu vansi " . I belongs to a clan in

which lord Krishna has taken birth.

 

You can read more about " yadavs " on wiki.

 

Hare Rama Krishna.

Regards,

Arun.

 

vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Arun bhaiyaa,

>

> Please note that you used " WORRY " in your response, at least ONCE whereas I

did not use it even once!

>

> Also, I used a term starting with a " c " which you did not, in your posting!

;-)

>

> It is good to remain tuned into Nimitta, perhaps...?

>

> Rohiniranjan