Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dear Members This is my reply to " invitation for questions to be raised to Iranganti Rangacharya on Jaimini Astrology " by Saptarishi Astrology - e magazine This invitation is send to my mail and as the subject is of open in nature, i am reproducing my reply for information sake for the benefit of all sincere readers -----------mail from Saptarishi Astrology-------- Dear Friends Greetings Recently Shri Iranganti Rangacharya one of the foremost & oldest authorities of Classical Jaimini Astrology was requested for an technical lengthy interview on Jaimini astrology. He has agreed to do this even at this ripe old age of 83. In order to make this a memorial that would be practically useful for the future we request students and scholars of Jaimini to post questions that he would be asked and published in Saptarishis Astrology. Some points below 1. Questions can be basic or very technical. (without quoting shlokas) 2. Questions invited would be most welcome if readers can send in questions with shloka number/chapter number. This can ensure easy response from him 3. Readers should send in their full name and address within the body of the mail at the end of the mail 4. If they do not want their names to appear (for whatever reasons) in the interview, they can indicate so. 5. Kindly send the questions to admin with subject heading e.g. `Questions for Sri Iranganti Rangacharya: From Jean Claude – Paris' 6. You are requested to ensure that your query is properly and respectfully worded to him. Today in Andhra Pradesh, a land where Jaimini Astrology has been a great fascination only 3 astrologers are alive known to us who have worked very hard for 50 years in Jaimini and are of the age of 65, 83 and 80. Only these 3 have the maximum commentaries so far known to us and not available outside in our limited experience. (if anyone knows more such scholars having worked on minimum 5 commentaries pls write to us). Once they are gone the classical various commentary based knowledge of Jaimini Astrology will once again have to resurrected which would mean spending another 50 years experience in it. Hence scholars are requested to pls ask as many questions as possible without bothering about ones image for the sake of extracting of Jaimini astrology pearls. This email can be passed on to the organisations you represent so that someone somewhere might ask a fantastic question and something new or clearer can come out. Many thanks for your time. Regards, Saptarishis Astrology The Free Digital Global Astro Magazine ----------end of Saptarishi Astrology invitation---- ----------- My reply starts from here onwards ------ To whomsoever it may concern Mr/Mrs I am neither your friend nor foe, so do not address with words like " Friends " etc You have misread the whole " FACT " In a Vikram aur Bethal story, it is Bethal who " tells " the story and " asks " So IRC is Bethal who told a beautiful, fancy and mental speculative story called " Jaimini Sutramritam " with no minimum courtesy of acknowledgment for his source material, persons who lend them to him. So it becomes " his " (not ours) duty to ask " questions " (to himself) like: 1) If Jaimini is superior to other schools, What stopped, great Acharyas like Varahamihira, Kalyanavarma etc of Garga school, to not mention it in their great works 2) If one aspires to study Jyotish, he should be thorough with all three branches i.e., Siddhanta, Hora and Samhita which are resolved completely by Varahamihira during golden age, but we do not find such completed works of either Jaimini and Parasara. Moreover, it is clearly stated by Varahamihira in Brihatjataka 1ch 2 sloka that he tried his best to resolve the lost or ruined " Tantra " , if so, why Jaimini is not being mentioned by him or listed among 18 rishis who taught this sastra, Is it not existing during his time, if so, can IRC mention any small verse from works of Varahamihira. Again, if Kalidas a contemporary of Varahamihira can mention Arudha concept in his Uttarakalamrita why not Varahamihira? 3) Why not he or his contemporaries practice the best solved school i.e., Varahimihira through the mathematical methods preached by Keshava and Sripati who themselves have again resolved completely all three branches through their works like " Siddhanta Sekhara " , " Jataka Karma Paddhati " and " Jyotisha Ratnamala " etc, because it is very difficult or complicated to implement? (This question is applicable to you and your readers) 4) If some foreign authority or a serious thinker asks us regarding study of this science with archaeological evident material we only have with us that of Varahamihira works complete on three branches but not for other schools. So it becomes first priority for a student to take this school seriously, master it and then look for other which are not completely available 5) if he is to be treated as living authority on Jaimini, he should first practice for atleast 10yrs in Varahamihira, train students, which is not evident either in his works or list of students etc 6) As Jyotish is based on Karma Siddhanta, can it be proved on Jaimini lines? 7) When Jaimini says that we have to apply " Katapaya " but not Bhuta sajna, why it is that the later is called for in Sutra 2-4-27 Tara Arka amsa .... Because it is commented by Neelankantha whom IRC mostly disagree? 8) Can he explain the reasons for basic principles on which Jaimini School stands? For example, the dasa krama for movable fixed and dual - 1,6 and 4 as per sutras 2-4-8,9,10 9) If he is authority why he is not reacting to frequent objections raised by Hetuvada Sangha in Hyderabad about validity of Jyotish Sastra 10) With my interaction with one of his (IRC) students who claims that he can sort out male and female from a bunch of at least 100 birth charts within 5 minutes, and also he can identify married couples out of 100 given pair of horoscopes very efficiently - Is this true? Of course this student denies the chara karaka theory proposed by his guru himself These are only some: I have read thoroughly his work " Jaimini Sutramritam " but not felt slightest grace of Jaimini " through it " - If someone like you still feel " Shri Iranganti Rangacharya one of the foremost & oldest authorities of Classical Jaimini Astrology " then let him give " AN EXHAUSTIVE EXPLANATION ON FIRST 3 SUTRAS " - I PROMISE THAT I WILL GIVE EXTRAORDINARY EXPLANATION TO THE SAME You have failed to mention: 1) names of 3 persons dedicated to Jaimini 2)your designation etc To conclude, I have no intention of giving trouble to elder or aged persons, but if they have much enthusiasm to get their name popular by mean methods (before they die) to stand besides Jaimini Maharshi, Varahamihira acharya and other great thinkers it is not healthy for our " sanatana dharma " and I strongly recommend you and your readers to first take seriously the most completed schools like Varahamihira and start working on them on these lines to prove this great science: 1) Collecting at least 2,00,000 births from different locations pertaining to 4 main directions through hospitals 2) Evaluate them on basis of sex, weight, nature of delivery, direction of delivery room, complexion of child, geographical location of birth like plain, plateau, hill, valley, river, forest etc 3) Evaluate infant deaths 4) Evaluate unnatural deaths for at least 1000 births 5) Find the appropriate ayanamsa that explains the above This is very basic research work for every student Please do not mix up hallucinogenic ideas like Narayana dasa etc proposed by pseudo astrologers like Rath, Rao etc with those of charakaraka and darpana ideas of IRC calibre. This whole chaos and confusion is due to Chitra Vichitra nature of Ketu whose gotra is Jaimini - so it is only due to grace of swayam Jamini who has peculiar habit of selecting his own disciples Jai Jaimini Jai Varahamihira Jairadhe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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