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Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Wondering on the significance of a dream I

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Received: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 5:24 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Narasimha,

Am I channelling you or vice verse? Last couple of days I was thinking that I

have never told you the reason why I want to 'sense' pooja- what I am really

interested in is Pitri tarpana- I need to experience some 'encouragement'

which may come from your " intense metaphysical sense " , if I can call it that

way? 

My father died accidentally, I couldn't leave Canada. Guilt /I've

already had/ has  intensified; it breaks my heart  all the time- ligthing

candles, asking him for forgiveness, nothing works...I cannot move on.

 

I've been 'viscerally' conscious that you are almost as valuable dignified,

special... as my Father,

 

than that you may lead me to my Father,

 

......for quite awhile. Nothing cerebral lead me to this.  I've never

had ANY desire to 'justify' that superior awareness by any astrology, logic,

reasons... but incidentally I recently noticed that my father's AK Moon is

about the same degree as yours.

We are indeed souls: you could be my father's grand-child, but he is sending you

to teach me.

 

My mother is old and insists that I go back home- I will be leaving Canada for

good this August /contract/, I look for a job there already,

but will be in Boston tomorrow!

Just sharing the

ritual with you is the only thing I expect and need.

I am grateful to Padmaja for her kindness and I look forward meeting you all.

 

Yours

Anna

/My full name is SNEZANA /means Snow-white in serbian/ My name sounds awkward

in English, so everyone here calls me Anna/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>

[vedic astrology] Re: Wondering on the significance of a dream I saw

and it's interpretation

vedic astrology,

Cc:

Received: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:26 AM

 

 

 

Namaste,

 

This dream presumably happened in Pisces lagna with lagna lord Jupiter in 12th

and 9th lord Mars in 5th. There may be something in this dream to aid your own

spiritual progress. Except that, I do not think the dream means much literally.

 

* * *

 

My take is that this dream is a message to you to start doing pitri tarpana.

Pitri tarpana (meaning: satisfying ancestral manes) is a procedure that can be

finished in 5-10 min in its shortest form. In fact, a short pitri tarpana used

to be an integral part of daily religious sadhana every morning, not so long

ago.

 

* * *

 

One can download free Pitri tarpana manuals at

 

http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana

 

The manuals explain in detail three versions of the procedure - super-short

(5-10 min), short (12-20 min) and regular (30-45 min). Manuals are available

with mantras given in various scripts (English, Sanskrit, Bengali, Gujarati,

Kannada, Malayalam, Oriya, Tamil and Telugu).

 

* * *

 

If a pitri or ancestral mane is stuck in pitri loka, it affects one's mind.

Suppose a lustful ancestor got stuck upon death in pitri loka (i.e. the realm of

consciousness where mind and its predispositions dominate), instead of

progressing to another realm of consciousness or being reborn to fulfil

remaining desires. Then minds of some descendants may be genetically/

kaarmically predisposed to lust. Same with other weaknesses.

 

Though one can look at a pitri as an external being, everything external maps

internally. One's pitris are present within one as various tendencies based on

genetic and kaarmik predispositions. Freeing a pitri and granting him rebirth is

essentially the same as freeing one's own mind from certain genetic and kaarmik

predispositions.

 

* * *

 

In astrology, horas in hora chart are ruled by Sun (fire) or Moon (water). Sun's

horas are controlled by devas (gods) and Moon's horas are controlled by pitris

(ancestral manes).

 

We all have a physical body (lagna), a mind (Moon) and a soul (Sun). Pitris are

beings that self-identify more strongly with the mind (Moon) and they are best

propitiated using the medium of water (tarpana). Devas are beings that

self-identify more strongly with the soul (Sun) and they are best propitiated

using the medium of fire (homam).

 

If one does a 30-minute homam to any deity (e.g. Ganapathi) and a 10-minute

pitri tarpana everyday (or every weekend), it can accelerate one's spiritual

progress and make everything else one does more effective. In fact, a fire

ritual and a tarpana were part of the daily routine of learned Hindus not long

ago.

 

* * *

 

Modern world looks down upon rituals, but rituals are externalized actions that

are carefully designed and that eventually bring internal transformation on

repetition.

 

Every action and every thought of ours has an impact and leaves an imprint on

our consciousness. If we want to shape our consciousness in a particular useful

way, some repeated actions coupled with some thoughts can be used.

 

Thinking of stuck ancestors and praying for their freedom, while water flows

over some important energy centers in the palm, is certainly a useful exercise.

Contemplating a deity while imagining him/her in fire is certainly a useful

exercise.

 

* * *

 

The decrease of dharma and increase of adharma in the world places our earth in

a precarious position. Though very patient, Mother Earth cannot let her children

destroy themselves with their careless actions that ruin earth and irresponsible

inaction in important matters. If Mother Earth takes corrective action to change

the course, it will be painful for many people. For changes to occur smoothly

and relatively painlessly, we need to maintain a certain level of dharma in the

world.

 

If a few thousands of people are doing homam to various deities on a regular

basis, without any selfish material motivations but to just increase dharma in

the world and to progress spiritually in the process, it will make a big

difference to the world.

 

In fact, the divine Mother appeared and asked my guru in March 2006 to teach

simple homam procedures to anybody who is interested in spiritual progress and

help increase dharma in the world. I see that some people who never even lit a

lamp in their lives are doing a daily homam today and I am convinced that the

Mother's will will be fulfilled in time.

 

Detailed manuals of a short homam ritual to various deities are available at:

 

http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

 

* * *

 

Interestingly, I was thinking a few days back to write a few lines about the

importance of pitri tarpana and homam on . Your mail gives me the

opportunity. .

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

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Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

" Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFil ms.org

Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

Jyotish writings: http://groups. / group/JyotishWri tings

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vedic astrology, " dghole1971 " <dghole1971@ ...> wrote:

>

> || Om Gam Ganapataye Namah ||

>

> Dear Learned Scholars,

>

> I was wondering to the significance of this dream that I had about 3

> nights ago around 5:00 AM.

>

> In the dream, I saw Shri Vishnu informing the Pitris that soon on a

> particular day the Pitris will be able to communicate with their living

> descendents and impart knowledge about what we can to do to help the

> Pitris move on. They will also be able to impart knowledge on what we

> can do so that we will not have to go through Pitri Loka or shorten the

> stay and progress quickly. All actions based on this knowledge will help

> increase Dharma during this Kali Yug.

>

> Love

>

> Dhananjay

>

> || Om Vishnave Namah ||

 

 

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SAR108 <bonamente108

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Wondering on the significance of a dream I

saw and it's interpretation

vedic astrology

Received: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 5:24 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Narasimha,

Am I channelling you or vice verse? Last couple of days I was thinking that I

have never told you the reason why I want to 'sense' pooja- what I am really

interested in is Pitri tarpana- I need to experience some 'encouragement'

which may come from your " intense metaphysical sense " , if I can call it that

way? 

My father died accidentally, I couldn't leave Canada. Guilt /I've

already had/ has  intensified; it breaks my heart  all the time- ligthing

candles, asking him for forgiveness, nothing works...I cannot move on.

 

I've been 'viscerally' conscious that you are almost as valuable dignified,

special... as my Father,

 

than that you may lead me to my Father,

 

......for quite awhile. Nothing cerebral lead me to this.  I've never

had ANY desire to 'justify' that superior awareness by any astrology, logic,

reasons... but incidentally I recently noticed that my father's AK Moon is

about the same degree as yours.

We are indeed souls: you could be my father's grand-child, but he is sending you

to teach me.

 

My mother is old and insists that I go back home- I will be leaving Canada for

good this August /contract/, I look for a job there already,

but will be in Boston tomorrow!

Just sharing the

ritual with you is the only thing I expect and need.

I am grateful to Padmaja for her kindness and I look forward meeting you all.

 

Yours

Anna

/My full name is SNEZANA /means Snow-white in serbian/ My name sounds awkward

in English, so everyone here calls me Anna/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 4/22/10, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

 

Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>

[vedic astrology] Re: Wondering on the significance of a dream I saw

and it's interpretation

vedic astrology,

Cc:

Received: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:26 AM

 

 

 

Namaste,

 

This dream presumably happened in Pisces lagna with lagna lord Jupiter in 12th

and 9th lord Mars in 5th. There may be something in this dream to aid your own

spiritual progress. Except that, I do not think the dream means much literally.

 

* * *

 

My take is that this dream is a message to you to start doing pitri tarpana.

Pitri tarpana (meaning: satisfying ancestral manes) is a procedure that can be

finished in 5-10 min in its shortest form. In fact, a short pitri tarpana used

to be an integral part of daily religious sadhana every morning, not so long

ago.

 

* * *

 

One can download free Pitri tarpana manuals at

 

http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana

 

The manuals explain in detail three versions of the procedure - super-short

(5-10 min), short (12-20 min) and regular (30-45 min). Manuals are available

with mantras given in various scripts (English, Sanskrit, Bengali, Gujarati,

Kannada, Malayalam, Oriya, Tamil and Telugu).

 

* * *

 

If a pitri or ancestral mane is stuck in pitri loka, it affects one's mind.

Suppose a lustful ancestor got stuck upon death in pitri loka (i.e. the realm of

consciousness where mind and its predispositions dominate), instead of

progressing to another realm of consciousness or being reborn to fulfil

remaining desires. Then minds of some descendants may be genetically/

kaarmically predisposed to lust. Same with other weaknesses.

 

Though one can look at a pitri as an external being, everything external maps

internally. One's pitris are present within one as various tendencies based on

genetic and kaarmik predispositions. Freeing a pitri and granting him rebirth is

essentially the same as freeing one's own mind from certain genetic and kaarmik

predispositions.

 

* * *

 

In astrology, horas in hora chart are ruled by Sun (fire) or Moon (water). Sun's

horas are controlled by devas (gods) and Moon's horas are controlled by pitris

(ancestral manes).

 

We all have a physical body (lagna), a mind (Moon) and a soul (Sun). Pitris are

beings that self-identify more strongly with the mind (Moon) and they are best

propitiated using the medium of water (tarpana). Devas are beings that

self-identify more strongly with the soul (Sun) and they are best propitiated

using the medium of fire (homam).

 

If one does a 30-minute homam to any deity (e.g. Ganapathi) and a 10-minute

pitri tarpana everyday (or every weekend), it can accelerate one's spiritual

progress and make everything else one does more effective. In fact, a fire

ritual and a tarpana were part of the daily routine of learned Hindus not long

ago.

 

* * *

 

Modern world looks down upon rituals, but rituals are externalized actions that

are carefully designed and that eventually bring internal transformation on

repetition.

 

Every action and every thought of ours has an impact and leaves an imprint on

our consciousness. If we want to shape our consciousness in a particular useful

way, some repeated actions coupled with some thoughts can be used.

 

Thinking of stuck ancestors and praying for their freedom, while water flows

over some important energy centers in the palm, is certainly a useful exercise.

Contemplating a deity while imagining him/her in fire is certainly a useful

exercise.

 

* * *

 

The decrease of dharma and increase of adharma in the world places our earth in

a precarious position. Though very patient, Mother Earth cannot let her children

destroy themselves with their careless actions that ruin earth and irresponsible

inaction in important matters. If Mother Earth takes corrective action to change

the course, it will be painful for many people. For changes to occur smoothly

and relatively painlessly, we need to maintain a certain level of dharma in the

world.

 

If a few thousands of people are doing homam to various deities on a regular

basis, without any selfish material motivations but to just increase dharma in

the world and to progress spiritually in the process, it will make a big

difference to the world.

 

In fact, the divine Mother appeared and asked my guru in March 2006 to teach

simple homam procedures to anybody who is interested in spiritual progress and

help increase dharma in the world. I see that some people who never even lit a

lamp in their lives are doing a daily homam today and I am convinced that the

Mother's will will be fulfilled in time.

 

Detailed manuals of a short homam ritual to various deities are available at:

 

http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

 

* * *

 

Interestingly, I was thinking a few days back to write a few lines about the

importance of pitri tarpana and homam on . Your mail gives me the

opportunity. .

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

" Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFil ms.org

Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

Jyotish writings: http://groups. / group/JyotishWri tings

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

vedic astrology, " dghole1971 " <dghole1971@ ...> wrote:

>

> || Om Gam Ganapataye Namah ||

>

> Dear Learned Scholars,

>

> I was wondering to the significance of this dream that I had about 3

> nights ago around 5:00 AM.

>

> In the dream, I saw Shri Vishnu informing the Pitris that soon on a

> particular day the Pitris will be able to communicate with their living

> descendents and impart knowledge about what we can to do to help the

> Pitris move on. They will also be able to impart knowledge on what we

> can do so that we will not have to go through Pitri Loka or shorten the

> stay and progress quickly. All actions based on this knowledge will help

> increase Dharma during this Kali Yug.

>

> Love

>

> Dhananjay

>

> || Om Vishnave Namah ||