Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Namaskaram, I refer to my previous post/ mail about trip to Divya Desam and I think my communication is not very clear. I sincerely apologize for any confusion created regarding the temples we propose to visit. Mr S. Rajagopal who has visited 97 Divya Desams twice is willing to organize such tours in a planned and economic way. We have proposed a 2 day trip (September 22 and 23, 2007) starting from Parthasarathy temple at Chennai and the tentative route is to take the ECR road and visit Tiruvidandhai, Tirukadalmallai, Tiruvahanthipuram, Chidambaram Nataraja where Govindarajaperumal is enshrined and then move to Vaitheeswaran Koil. The next day, Sunday we will be visiting the 12 Divya Desams in Sirkazhi (Thirunangur) and return back to Chennai around 10.30 PM in the night. The Thirunangur falls under the Chozha Divya Desams. Mr Rajagopal says there are 11 very old Shiva temples in and around Thirunangur and if members are willing, we can visit these shrines also. The cost he says will be roughly Rs.800/ person including breakfast and 2 meals both days as well safe stay in the night. It can be slightly on the lower or higher side and will be determined once 12 members are identified. Mr Rajagopal is also willing to organize such tours to Malainadu, Kerala and Karnataka Divya Desams entwined with other important shrines in these areas provided a confirmed group is formed. His sole idea is to serve the bhaktas and offer his services and knowledge as much as possible which he sees is a service to God. I request you all to contact Mr S. Rajagopal at 98400-17492 on Sunday and speak to him further on this. He is in Maduari today to participate in Bhoomi Pujan of a mutt/ temple renovation and expected back to the city on Sunday. I live and work at Mumbai and unable to personally coordinate this tour. With Respects, Padma Krishnamurthy Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 DEAR MEMBERS, SRIVAISHNAVAITES should not visit any shiva temple as it is against their SWAROOPAM, [basic character].they should not even forgetfully worship other deities including pillayar, murugan amman,shiva etc.As per THIUMAZHISAI AAZWARS PASURAM they should be MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDAR and pillayar chaturthi should not be celebrated at all,THE ABOVE have been repeatedly emphasised by our POORVACHARYAS NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA dasan, N.PADMANABAN 9841316581 Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21 wrote: Namaskaram,I think my communication is not very clear. I sincerely apologize for any confusion created regarding the temples we propose to visit. Mr S. Rajagopal who has visited 97 Divya Desams twice is willing to organize such tours in a planned and economic way. We have proposed a 2 day trip (September 22 and 23, 2007) starting from Parthasarathy temple at Chennai and the tentative route is to take the ECR road and visit Tiruvidandhai, Tirukadalmallai, Tiruvahanthipuram, Chidambaram Nataraja where Govindarajaperumal is enshrined and then move to Vaitheeswaran Koil. The next day, Sunday we will be visiting the 12 Divya Desams in Sirkazhi (Thirunangur) and return back to Chennai around 10.30 PM in the night. The Thirunangur falls under the Chozha Divya Desams. Mr Rajagopal says there are 11 very old Shiva temples in and around Thirunangur and if members are willing, we can visit these shrines also. The cost he says will be roughly Rs.800/ person including breakfast and 2 meals both days as well safe stay in the night. It can be slightly on the lower or higher side and will be determined once 12 members are identified. Mr Rajagopal is also willing to organize such tours to Malainadu, Kerala and Karnataka Divya Desams entwined with other important shrines in these areas provided a confirmed group is formed. His sole idea is to serve the bhaktas and offer his services and knowledge as much as possible which he sees is a service to God. I request you all to contact Mr S. Rajagopal at 98400-17492 on Sunday and speak to him further on this. He is in Maduari today to participate in Bhoomi Pujan of a mutt/ temple renovation and expected back to the city on Sunday. I live and work at Mumbai and unable to personally coordinate this tour. With Respects, Padma Krishnamurthy Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Dear Sir, I am amazed and upset reading this message and seek apologies before starting my reply. I do not know prabandam or what the alwars said neither do I know thevaram or thiruvasagam or scriptures related to saivism. But whatever I heard from many elders and learned people is Shiva and Vishnu are the same, hari and sivan are one and the same and in many sthalams they are found together in different prakarams. I hope all the members had read about the high rate of conversion and our religion is facing a major crisis. In such circumstances should we narrow down our faith and beliefs? Earlier we had the Kalai problems and now this which is amazing. I am deeply troubled with this message. We may have come together as we have common interest in Divya Desams but should we allow such thinking to proliferate through this good medium. Tolerance is the basis of our religion and in fact this has been exploted by other faiths. I apologize if I have hurt the feelings of anyone with my reply. Sincerely, Padma Krishnamurthynarasimhan padmanaban <npn72000 wrote: DEAR MEMBERS, SRIVAISHNAVAITES should not visit any shiva temple as it is against their SWAROOPAM, [basic character].they should not even forgetfully worship other deities including pillayar, murugan amman,shiva etc.As per THIUMAZHISAI AAZWARS PASURAM they should be MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDAR and pillayar chaturthi should not be celebrated at all,THE ABOVEhave been repeatedly emphasised by our POORVACHARYAS NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA dasan,N.PADMANABAN 9841316581Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Namaskaram, I think my communication is not very clear. I sincerely apologize for any confusion created regarding the temples we propose to visit. Mr S. Rajagopal who has visited 97 Divya Desams twice is willing to organize such tours in a planned and economic way. We have proposed a 2 day trip (September 22 and 23, 2007) starting from Parthasarathy temple at Chennai and the tentative route is to take the ECR road and visit Tiruvidandhai, Tirukadalmallai, Tiruvahanthipuram, Chidambaram Nataraja where Govindarajaperumal is enshrined and then move to Vaitheeswaran Koil. The next day, Sunday we will be visiting the 12 Divya Desams in Sirkazhi (Thirunangur) and return back to Chennai around 10.30 PM in the night. The Thirunangur falls under the Chozha Divya Desams. Mr Rajagopal says there are 11 very old Shiva temples in and around Thirunangur and if members are willing, we can visit these shrines also. The cost he says will be roughly Rs.800/ person including breakfast and 2 meals both days as well safe stay in the night. It can be slightly on the lower or higher side and will be determined once 12 members are identified. Mr Rajagopal is also willing to organize such tours to Malainadu, Kerala and Karnataka Divya Desams entwined with other important shrines in these areas provided a confirmed group is formed. His sole idea is to serve the bhaktas and offer his services and knowledge as much as possible which he sees is a service to God. I request you all to contact Mr S. Rajagopal at 98400-17492 on Sunday and speak to him further on this. He is in Maduari today to participate in Bhoomi Pujan of a mutt/ temple renovation and expected back to the city on Sunday. I live and work at Mumbai and unable to personally coordinate this tour. With Respects, Padma Krishnamurthy Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 yat bhAvam tat bhavati (as you think, so it will become)! I have been to see Bahubali in Shravana Belagola, St Peters Bascillica in Vatican, and many rare cathedrals in Europe, St THomas Mount in Chennai, several Buddhist temples in Japan, Brihadeshwara temple in Tanjore, etc and etc. I guess proper understanding and attitude counts. Also, If a Srivaishnava's devotion to VishNu is so fragile that it will get distorted so readily, they shouldsimply lock themselves up in perumaaL sannidhi! dAsan K.S. tAtAchAr narasimhan padmanaban <npn72000 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 9:18 am Re: Reg. Divya Desam Tour DEAR MEMBERS, SRIVAISHNAVAITES should not visit any shiva temple as it is against their SWAROOPAM, [basic character].they should not even forgetfully worship other deities including pillayar, murugan amman,shiva etc.As per THIUMAZHISAI AAZWARS PASURAM they should be MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDAR and pillayar chaturthi should not be celebrated at all,THE ABOVE have been repeatedly emphasised by our POORVACHARYAS NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA dasan, N.PADMANABAN 9841316581 Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21 wrote: Namaskaram, I think my communication is not very clear. I sincerely apologize for any confusion created regarding the temples we propose to visit. Mr S. Rajagopal who has visited 97 Divya Desams twice is willing to organize such tours in a planned and economic way. We have proposed a 2 day trip (September 22 and 23, 2007) starting from Parthasarathy temple at Chennai and the tentative route is to take the ECR road and visit Tiruvidandhai, Tirukadalmallai, Tiruvahanthipuram, Chidambaram Nataraja where Govindarajaperumal is enshrined and then move to Vaitheeswaran Koil. The next day, Sunday we will be visiting the 12 Divya Desams in Sirkazhi (Thirunangur) and return back to Chennai around 10.30 PM in the night. The Thirunangur falls under the Chozha Divya Desams. Mr Rajagopal says there are 11 very old Shiva temples in and around Thirunangur and if members are willing, we can visit these shrines also. The cost he says will be roughly Rs.800/ person including breakfast and 2 meals both days as well safe stay in the night. It can be slightly on the lower or higher side and will be determined once 12 members are identified. Mr Rajagopal is also willing to organize such tours to Malainadu, Kerala and Karnataka Divya Desams entwined with other important shrines in these areas provided a confirmed group is formed. His sole idea is to serve the bhaktas and offer his services and knowledge as much as possible which he sees is a service to God. I request you all to contact Mr S. Rajagopal at 98400-17492 on Sunday and speak to him further on this. He is in Maduari today to participate in Bhoomi Pujan of a mutt/ temple renovation and expected back to the city on Sunday. I live and work at Mumbai and unable to personally coordinate this tour. With Respects, Padma Krishnamurthy Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Dear Sir, I am really shocked after reading with this message. I agree with the message of smt. padma krishnamurthy. After all, mind is the ultimate source to decide everything. One should prepare his/her mind in a way which is clearly quoted in Geeta by the Supreme Lord krishna. You can give deep believe in any Lord but others also you should know to respect. What will become less if you visit shiva temple? All the Gods are same but in different ROOPAS. Lord vishnu and Lord shiva one and the same. Rajani Iyer.Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21 wrote: Dear Sir, I am amazed and upset reading this message and seek apologies before starting my reply. I do not know prabandam or what the alwars said neither do I know thevaram or thiruvasagam or scriptures related to saivism. But whatever I heard from many elders and learned people is Shiva and Vishnu are the same, hari and sivan are one and the same and in many sthalams they are found together in different prakarams. I hope all the members had read about the high rate of conversion and our religion is facing a major crisis. In such circumstances should we narrow down our faith and beliefs? Earlier we had the Kalai problems and now this which is amazing. I am deeply troubled with this message. We may have come together as we have common interest in Divya Desams but should we allow such thinking to proliferate through this good medium. Tolerance is the basis of our religion and in fact this has been exploted by other faiths. I apologize if I have hurt the feelings of anyone with my reply. Sincerely, Padma Krishnamurthynarasimhan padmanaban <npn72000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: DEAR MEMBERS, SRIVAISHNAVAITES should not visit any shiva temple as it is against their SWAROOPAM, [basic character].they should not even forgetfully worship other deities including pillayar, murugan amman,shiva etc.As per THIUMAZHISAI AAZWARS PASURAM they should be MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDAR and pillayar chaturthi should not be celebrated at all,THE ABOVEhave been repeatedly emphasised by our POORVACHARYAS NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA dasan,N.PADMANABAN 9841316581Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Namaskaram, I think my communication is not very clear. I sincerely apologize for any confusion created regarding the temples we propose to visit. Mr S. Rajagopal who has visited 97 Divya Desams twice is willing to organize such tours in a planned and economic way. We have proposed a 2 day trip (September 22 and 23, 2007) starting from Parthasarathy temple at Chennai and the tentative route is to take the ECR road and visit Tiruvidandhai, Tirukadalmallai, Tiruvahanthipuram, Chidambaram Nataraja where Govindarajaperumal is enshrined and then move to Vaitheeswaran Koil. The next day, Sunday we will be visiting the 12 Divya Desams in Sirkazhi (Thirunangur) and return back to Chennai around 10.30 PM in the night. The Thirunangur falls under the Chozha Divya Desams. Mr Rajagopal says there are 11 very old Shiva temples in and around Thirunangur and if members are willing, we can visit these shrines also. The cost he says will be roughly Rs.800/ person including breakfast and 2 meals both days as well safe stay in the night. It can be slightly on the lower or higher side and will be determined once 12 members are identified. Mr Rajagopal is also willing to organize such tours to Malainadu, Kerala and Karnataka Divya Desams entwined with other important shrines in these areas provided a confirmed group is formed. His sole idea is to serve the bhaktas and offer his services and knowledge as much as possible which he sees is a service to God. I request you all to contact Mr S. Rajagopal at 98400-17492 on Sunday and speak to him further on this. He is in Maduari today to participate in Bhoomi Pujan of a mutt/ temple renovation and expected back to the city on Sunday. I live and work at Mumbai and unable to personally coordinate this tour. With Respects, Padma Krishnamurthy Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Its wonderful to come in contact with such evolved persons like you and Mr Rajagopal. With respects, Padma Krishnamurthytatachar wrote: yat bhAvam tat bhavati (as you think, so it will become)!I have been to see Bahubali in Shravana Belagola,St Peters Bascillica in Vatican, and many rare cathedralsin Europe, St THomas Mount in Chennai,several Buddhist temples in Japan, Brihadeshwara temple in Tanjore, etc and etc.I guess proper understanding and attitude counts.Also, If a Srivaishnava's devotion to VishNu is so fragile that it will get distorted so readily, they shouldsimply lock themselves up in perumaaL sannidhi!dAsanK.S. tAtAchArnarasimhan padmanaban <npn72000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 9:18 amRe: Reg. Divya Desam Tour DEAR MEMBERS, SRIVAISHNAVAITES should not visit any shiva temple as it is against their SWAROOPAM, [basic character].they should not even forgetfully worship other deities including pillayar, murugan amman,shiva etc.As per THIUMAZHISAI AAZWARS PASURAM they should be MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDAR and pillayar chaturthi should not be celebrated at all,THE ABOVEhave been repeatedly emphasised by our POORVACHARYAS NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA dasan,N.PADMANABAN 9841316581Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Namaskaram, I think my communication is not very clear. I sincerely apologize for any confusion created regarding the temples we propose to visit. Mr S. Rajagopal who has visited 97 Divya Desams twice is willing to organize such tours in a planned and economic way. We have proposed a 2 day trip (September 22 and 23, 2007) starting from Parthasarathy temple at Chennai and the tentative route is to take the ECR road and visit Tiruvidandhai, Tirukadalmallai, Tiruvahanthipuram, Chidambaram Nataraja where Govindarajaperumal is enshrined and then move to Vaitheeswaran Koil. The next day, Sunday we will be visiting the 12 Divya Desams in Sirkazhi (Thirunangur) and return back to Chennai around 10.30 PM in the night. The Thirunangur falls under the Chozha Divya Desams. Mr Rajagopal says there are 11 very old Shiva temples in and around Thirunangur and if members are willing, we can visit these shrines also. The cost he says will be roughly Rs.800/ person including breakfast and 2 meals both days as well safe stay in the night. It can be slightly on the lower or higher side and will be determined once 12 members are identified. Mr Rajagopal is also willing to organize such tours to Malainadu, Kerala and Karnataka Divya Desams entwined with other important shrines in these areas provided a confirmed group is formed. His sole idea is to serve the bhaktas and offer his services and knowledge as much as possible which he sees is a service to God. I request you all to contact Mr S. Rajagopal at 98400-17492 on Sunday and speak to him further on this. He is in Maduari today to participate in Bhoomi Pujan of a mutt/ temple renovation and expected back to the city on Sunday. I live and work at Mumbai and unable to personally coordinate this tour. With Respects, Padma Krishnamurthy Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Sri Rajagopalan, Well said sir. There is no hope until we purge sect and caste out of Hinduism; and caste, sect and religion out of Indian politics. Hindus should stick to one primary book- the only book we can follow or even need to follow is Bhagavadgita (BG). However, BG itself has been heavily infested with all sorts of treatises. So we have to first liberate BG, and use the liberated (pristine) BG to liberate us! Politically speaking, make it unacceptable to refer to caste and religion, majority, minority etc. in the media- just as the N word is unacceptable in the USA. Reserve 40% for socially and economically backward Indians, 15% for economically backward (socially forward) Indians 15% for socially backward (economically forward) Indians remaining 30% for all Indians. Both these have to be implemented at the same time; if we envision progress for India. Otherwise we will be the most marginalized quabbling ducks in the world! dAsan K.S. tAtAchAr S RAJAGOPALAN <yesargee Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 9:03 am Re: Fwd: Re: Reg. Divya Desam Tour Padma. The problem with some of us: We dont unite as Shrivaishnavites. We have many matathipathys. Each having his own disciples/ followers. These Matathipathys dont see eye to eye. Every one will call himself as great. Have their own doctrines. Vadagalai / Thengalai ; Matam / Munithreyam Vanamamali / Ahobilam / Andavan / Poundarikam / Parakala and what not? How will there be unity? We dont unite as Brahmins. Vaishnava will not go to a Shiva Temple. Will not go to Amman Temple. Will not go to Pillaiyar / Navagraha / Subrahmanyam Temple. Even if Shriman Narayana is in Shiva Temple, They wont go. Even if it is Divyadesam they wont go unless Shrivaishnava Sampradhayam is followed. We dont unite as Hindu. Yes Brahmin / Non Brahmin clashes and differences. No wonder conversions are in abundance. Hinduism will get protected only when we sink our differences and unite ourselves. S RAJAGOPALAN. Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Thanks! Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 8:54 am Re: Reg. Divya Desam Tour Its wonderful to come in contact with such evolved persons like you and Mr Rajagopal. With respects, Padma Krishnamurthy tatachar wrote: yat bhAvam tat bhavati (as you think, so it will become)! I have been to see Bahubali in Shravana Belagola, St Peters Bascillica in Vatican, and many rare cathedrals in Europe, St THomas Mount in Chennai, several Buddhist temples in Japan, Brihadeshwara temple in Tanjore, etc and etc. I guess proper understanding and attitude counts. Also, If a Srivaishnava's devotion to VishNu is so fragile that it will get distorted so readily, they shouldsimply lock themselves up in perumaaL sannidhi! dAsan K.S. tAtAchAr narasimhan padmanaban <npn72000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Mon, 10 Sep 2007 9:18 am Re: Reg. Divya Desam Tour DEAR MEMBERS, SRIVAISHNAVAITES should not visit any shiva temple as it is against their SWAROOPAM, [basic character].they should not even forgetfully worship other deities including pillayar, murugan amman,shiva etc.As per THIUMAZHISAI AAZWARS PASURAM they should be MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDAR and pillayar chaturthi should not be celebrated at all,THE ABOVE have been repeatedly emphasised by our POORVACHARYAS NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA dasan, N.PADMANABAN 9841316581 Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Namaskaram, I think my communication is not very clear. I sincerely apologize for any confusion created regarding the temples we propose to visit. Mr S. Rajagopal who has visited 97 Divya Desams twice is willing to organize such tours in a planned and economic way. We have proposed a 2 day trip (September 22 and 23, 2007) starting from Parthasarathy temple at Chennai and the tentative route is to take the ECR road and visit Tiruvidandhai, Tirukadalmallai, Tiruvahanthipuram, Chidambaram Nataraja where Govindarajaperumal is enshrined and then move to Vaitheeswaran Koil. The next day, Sunday we will be visiting the 12 Divya Desams in Sirkazhi (Thirunangur) and return back to Chennai around 10.30 PM in the night. The Thirunangur falls under the Chozha Divya Desams. Mr Rajagopal says there are 11 very old Shiva temples in and around Thirunangur and if members are willing, we can visit these shrines also. The cost he says will be roughly Rs.800/ person including breakfast and 2 meals both days as well safe stay in the night. It can be slightly on the lower or higher side and will be determined once 12 members are identified. Mr Rajagopal is also willing to organize such tours to Malainadu, Kerala and Karnataka Divya Desams entwined with other important shrines in these areas provided a confirmed group is formed. His sole idea is to serve the bhaktas and offer his services and knowledge as much as possible which he sees is a service to God. I request you all to contact Mr S. Rajagopal at 98400-17492 on Sunday and speak to him further on this. He is in Maduari today to participate in Bhoomi Pujan of a mutt/ temple renovation and expected back to the city on Sunday. I live and work at Mumbai and unable to personally coordinate this tour. With Respects, Padma Krishnamurthy Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear Mr.N.Padmanaban I am appreciating to you, you have great dedication with srimannarayanan. well. But how do you say should not visit any shiva temples and you are insulting the shiva bakthas. please try to change your mind. shiva, vishnu, devi and other devas are all in family. they are teaching us how is the family should be, they are doing so many puranam and at the end of the puranam, they will teach us what will be the effect. If we are going the wrong way what will be the effect from that things. that we have to learn from them. Many time our Krishnapramy sawamical (anna) tells in his upanyasam. Allwargal having more affection with Perumal but they are giving more respect with shivas. and also all the Nayanmargal having more affection with shiva at the same time they are giving respect with Perumal. I am also visited more divayadesam. I am also having more affection with Perumal. same time shiva also. Many of the temples puranam says both are all the same. Please try to understand Thanks S.Saravanakumar. narasimhan padmanaban <npn72000 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 9:18 amRe: Reg. Divya Desam Tour DEAR MEMBERS, SRIVAISHNAVAITES should not visit any shiva temple as it is against their SWAROOPAM, [basic character].they should not even forgetfully worship other deities including pillayar, murugan amman,shiva etc.As per THIUMAZHISAI AAZWARS PASURAM they should be MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDAR and pillayar chaturthi should not be celebrated at all,THE ABOVEhave been repeatedly emphasised by our POORVACHARYAS NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA dasan,N.PADMANABAN 9841316581Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_ 21 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Namaskaram, I think my communication is not very clear. I sincerely apologize for any confusion created regarding the temples we propose to visit. Mr S. Rajagopal who has visited 97 Divya Desams twice is willing to organize such tours in a planned and economic way. We have proposed a 2 day trip (September 22 and 23, 2007) starting from Parthasarathy temple at Chennai and the tentative route is to take the ECR road and visit Tiruvidandhai, Tirukadalmallai, Tiruvahanthipuram, Chidambaram Nataraja where Govindarajaperumal is enshrined and then move to Vaitheeswaran Koil. The next day, Sunday we will be visiting the 12 Divya Desams in Sirkazhi (Thirunangur) and return back to Chennai around 10.30 PM in the night. The Thirunangur falls under the Chozha Divya Desams. Mr Rajagopal says there are 11 very old Shiva temples in and around Thirunangur and if members are willing, we can visit these shrines also. The cost he says will be roughly Rs.800/ person including breakfast and 2 meals both days as well safe stay in the night. It can be slightly on the lower or higher side and will be determined once 12 members are identified. Mr Rajagopal is also willing to organize such tours to Malainadu, Kerala and Karnataka Divya Desams entwined with other important shrines in these areas provided a confirmed group is formed. His sole idea is to serve the bhaktas and offer his services and knowledge as much as possible which he sees is a service to God. I request you all to contact Mr S. Rajagopal at 98400-17492 on Sunday and speak to him further on this. He is in Maduari today to participate in Bhoomi Pujan of a mutt/ temple renovation and expected back to the city on Sunday. I live and work at Mumbai and unable to personally coordinate this tour. With Respects, Padma Krishnamurthy Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Dasan, There are many references in our puranas of Siva and Vishnu seeking the assistance of each other at times of crisis. Sarabheswarar is being worshipped as one of Vishnu and Siva - Siva as Sarbewswarar embracing Vishnu in Narasimha avatram. Hindus consider Trimurthi as supreme, and let us narrow down our thoughts of cornering to one particular set of deities. As a Srivaishnavite I have written - Guide to 108 Divya Desams and 275 Siva Sthalams, and while referring to manuscripts and reference books I came across the bondage to both Sivism and Vaishnavism. Adi Sankarar has penned Bhaja Govindam. It is a pity that some harp on these prejudices towards the other out of ignorance. Dasan Tamarapu Sampath Kumaran --- saravana kumar <ramssk1975 wrote: > Dear Mr.N.Padmanaban > > I am appreciating to you, you have great dedication > with srimannarayanan. well. > > But how do you say should not visit any shiva > temples and you are insulting the shiva bakthas. > please try to change your mind. shiva, vishnu, devi > and other devas are all in family. they are teaching > us how is the family should be, they are doing so > many puranam and at the end of the puranam, they > will teach us what will be the effect. If we are > going the wrong way what will be the effect from > that things. that we have to learn from them. > > Many time our Krishnapramy sawamical (anna) tells in > his upanyasam. Allwargal having more affection with > Perumal but they are giving more respect with > shivas. and also all the Nayanmargal having more > affection with shiva at the same time they are > giving respect with Perumal. > > I am also visited more divayadesam. I am also having > more affection with Perumal. same time shiva also. > > Many of the temples puranam says both are all the > same. > > Please try to understand > > Thanks > > S.Saravanakumar. > > > > > > > narasimhan padmanaban <npn72000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Mon, 10 Sep 2007 9:18 am > Re: Reg. Divya Desam Tour > > > DEAR MEMBERS, > SRIVAISHNAVAITES should not visit any shiva > temple as it is against their > SWAROOPAM, [basic character].they should not even > forgetfully worship other deities including > pillayar, murugan amman,shiva etc.As per > THIUMAZHISAI AAZWARS PASURAM they should be > MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDAR and pillayar chaturthi > should not be celebrated at all,THE ABOVE > have been repeatedly emphasised by our POORVACHARYAS > > NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA > dasan, > N.PADMANABAN > 9841316581 > > Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_ 21 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > wrote: > Namaskaram, > I think my communication is not very clear. I > sincerely apologize for any confusion created > regarding the temples we propose to visit. > > Mr S. Rajagopal who has visited 97 Divya Desams > twice is willing to organize such tours in a planned > and economic way. We have proposed a 2 day trip > (September 22 and 23, 2007) starting from > Parthasarathy temple at Chennai and the tentative > route is to take the ECR road and visit > Tiruvidandhai, Tirukadalmallai, Tiruvahanthipuram, > Chidambaram Nataraja where Govindarajaperumal is > enshrined and then move to Vaitheeswaran Koil. The > next day, Sunday we will be visiting the 12 Divya > Desams in Sirkazhi (Thirunangur) and return back to > Chennai around 10.30 PM in the night. The > Thirunangur falls under the Chozha Divya Desams. > > Mr Rajagopal says there are 11 very old Shiva > temples in and around Thirunangur and if members are > willing, we can visit these shrines also. The cost > he says will be roughly Rs.800/ person including > breakfast and 2 meals both days as well safe stay in > the night. It can be slightly on the lower or higher > side and will be determined once 12 members are > identified. > > Mr Rajagopal is also willing to organize such tours > to Malainadu, Kerala and Karnataka Divya Desams > entwined with other important shrines in these areas > provided a confirmed group is formed. His sole idea > is to serve the bhaktas and offer his services and > knowledge as much as possible which he sees is a > service to God. > > I request you all to contact Mr S. Rajagopal at > 98400-17492 on Sunday and speak to him further on > this. He is in Maduari today to participate in > Bhoomi Pujan of a mutt/ temple renovation and > expected back to the city on Sunday. I live and work > at Mumbai and unable to personally coordinate this > tour. > > With Respects, > > Padma Krishnamurthy > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. > Click here to know how. > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. > Click here to know how. > > > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check > out free AOL Mail! > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any > browser, without download. > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers > from someone who knows. Answers - Check it > out. > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 _________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit For Good http://uk.promotions./forgood/environment.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 this msg has not been circulated------LET US NOT BE AFRAID OF THE FACTSnarasimhan padmanaban <npn72000 wrote: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:28:51 +0100 (BST)narasimhan padmanaban <npn72000Fwd: Re: Reg. Divya Desam Tourramssk1975 pl also see my separate [NARAYANA IS THE SUPREME LORD ]AN D READ THE VARIOUS BOOKS MENTIONED and talk to various learned SCHOLARSNote: forwarded message attached. Flying to Bangalore or Bhopal? Search for tickets here.Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:13:16 +0100 (BST)narasimhan padmanaban <npn72000Fwd: Re: Reg. Divya Desam Tour Note: forwarded message attached. Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:33:45 +0100 (BST)narasimhan padmanaban <npn72000Re: Reg. Divya Desam Tour Sri: Dear Members, The biggestSIN[MAHAA PAPAM] in this world is to think that SIVA and VISHNU are the same This is what NAMPADUVAN says first in KAISIKA PURANAM[THIS small book is available in the bookstall in SRI PARTHASARATHY PERUMAL TEMPLE IN TRIPLICANE] VISHNU is the SUPREME LORD and ther is nobody equal to HIM or greater than HIM------- pl refer thiruvoimozhi 4-10-ONRUM THEVUM Ther are so many slokas ,verses in the PURANAS and in bhagavad gita emphasising the above point and all the aazwars through their various pasurams have clearly established that LORD VISHNU is the SUPREME LORD and all the other GODS are existing as per LORD VISHNUS WILL and PLEASURE . On this subjet several books have been written by Sri S.KRISHNASWMY IYENGAR[sUDARSANAR] 3-B,new no:5, PUTHUR AGRAHARAM, TRICHY-620 017 PH: 0431 2773705 The books are authentic and authoritative AND members can drop a letter to get the list of books and they are really a treasure NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA dasan, N.PADMANABAN 98413 16581 Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21 wrote: Dear Sir, I am amazed and upset reading this message and seek apologies before starting my reply. I do not know prabandam or what the alwars said neither do I know thevaram or thiruvasagam or scriptures related to saivism. But whatever I heard from many elders and learned people is Shiva and Vishnu are the same, hari and sivan are one and the same and in many sthalams they are found together in different prakarams. I hope all the members had read about the high rate of conversion and our religion is facing a major crisis. In such circumstances should we narrow down our faith and beliefs? Earlier we had the Kalai problems and now this which is amazing. I am deeply troubled with this message. We may have come together as we have common interest in Divya Desams but should we allow such thinking to proliferate through this good medium. Tolerance is the basis of our religion and in fact this has been exploted by other faiths. I apologize if I have hurt the feelings of anyone with my reply. Sincerely, Padma Krishnamurthynarasimhan padmanaban <npn72000 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: DEAR MEMBERS, SRIVAISHNAVAITES should not visit any shiva temple as it is against their SWAROOPAM, [basic character].they should not even forgetfully worship other deities including pillayar, murugan amman,shiva etc.As per THIUMAZHISAI AAZWARS PASURAM they should be MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDAR and pillayar chaturthi should not be celebrated at all,THE ABOVEhave been repeatedly emphasised by our POORVACHARYAS NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA NAMO NARAYANA dasan,N.PADMANABAN 9841316581Padma Krishnamurthy <peakaymurthy_21 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Namaskaram, I think my communication is not very clear. I sincerely apologize for any confusion created regarding the temples we propose to visit. Mr S. Rajagopal who has visited 97 Divya Desams twice is willing to organize such tours in a planned and economic way. We have proposed a 2 day trip (September 22 and 23, 2007) starting from Parthasarathy temple at Chennai and the tentative route is to take the ECR road and visit Tiruvidandhai, Tirukadalmallai, Tiruvahanthipuram, Chidambaram Nataraja where Govindarajaperumal is enshrined and then move to Vaitheeswaran Koil. The next day, Sunday we will be visiting the 12 Divya Desams in Sirkazhi (Thirunangur) and return back to Chennai around 10.30 PM in the night. The Thirunangur falls under the Chozha Divya Desams. Mr Rajagopal says there are 11 very old Shiva temples in and around Thirunangur and if members are willing, we can visit these shrines also. The cost he says will be roughly Rs.800/ person including breakfast and 2 meals both days as well safe stay in the night. It can be slightly on the lower or higher side and will be determined once 12 members are identified. Mr Rajagopal is also willing to organize such tours to Malainadu, Kerala and Karnataka Divya Desams entwined with other important shrines in these areas provided a confirmed group is formed. His sole idea is to serve the bhaktas and offer his services and knowledge as much as possible which he sees is a service to God. I request you all to contact Mr S. Rajagopal at 98400-17492 on Sunday and speak to him further on this. He is in Maduari today to participate in Bhoomi Pujan of a mutt/ temple renovation and expected back to the city on Sunday. I live and work at Mumbai and unable to personally coordinate this tour. With Respects, Padma Krishnamurthy Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. 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