Re:Who is the ThAyAr On the left chest region of Lord VenkatEsa ?

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SrI:

 

Dear Sri VenkatEsa BhakthAs :

 

Recently we had some exchange of Mails

on who is the ThAyAr on Lord VenkatEsa

Moola BhEram .

 

It is my pleasure to share with you the most authoritative

input from one of the PradhAna Archakars of Srivari

Temple at Thirumala .

 

We are grateful to Sri RamakrishNa Dikshithulu's

authentic description of the ThAyArs on the SubhAsrayam

of Lord VenkatEsa .

 

NamO SrI VenkatEsAya ,

V.Sadagopan

- RamakrishnaDeekshitulu Archakam

Dr. Sadagopan

Friday, May 02, 2008 8:58 AM

Re: Fw: Re:Who is the ThAyAr On the left chest region of Lord VenkatEsa ?

 

Om devarAja dayApAtram dIbhaktyAdi gunArnavambhrugvAdi munaya: putrA tasmai sri vikhanasE namaha||

 

nArAyanam sakamalam sakAlAmarEndram

vaikhAnasam mam gurum nigamAgamEndram

bhrugvathrikAsyapamarIchi mukhAn munIdrAn

sarvAnaham kulagurum pranamAmi mUrdnA||

Dear Sriman Sadagopan Swamy,Excellent description of Thayars!!

Lord Venkateswara's idol is having a Srivatsam mark on his right chest, which is a permanent part of the idol. It can be seen embossed, but only on Thursdays, when the jewels are removed completely, leaving the Melchat Vastram, and on Fridays, during Abhishekam and Nijapada Darsanam. The darsan of Vakshathala Lakshmi can be seen if we come very near to Kulasekhara Padi and even from there also, we can only assume the shape of the Lakshmi. Only Archakas can see the Lakshmi on the Chest. This Lakshmi is called Dvi-bhuja-Vyuha-Lakshmi in Vaikhanasa Samhithas.

The presence of Lakshmi on the body of the Hill god is responsible for the name Sri-nivasa( the abode of Lakshmi) for him. This image of Lakshmi is in the Agamas prescribed to be two-armed and seated in the lotus posture, this form is called Vyuha-Lakshmi.

dvibhujA vyuhalakshmi: syAt baddapadmAsanapriyA|srInivAsanga madyasthaa sutaram kEshavapriyA||

And the consecration and worship of Vyuha-Lakshmi are meant to secure unbounded and eternal prosperity( niravadika-samrddhi-siddhaye). In the daily worship of the Hill-god, after the Venkatesa-sahasra-nama-archana in the morning, this Vyuha-Lakshmi on the god's chest is also worshipped reciting 16 names of Lakshmi(shodasa-nama) with the offering of tulasi-leaves after each name and also Goddess Padmavathi on the left chest is worshipped at the same time( while the 16 names are being chanted). This image is specially worshipped during the main deity's ceremonial bath on Friday's, as also during Makara-sankaranthi(kAkApudi), when this lakshmi on right chest of the hill-god receives bath with perfumed water. Ramanuja is said to have prompted one of the yadava-raya kings to offer for the hill-god a golden necklace in which the golden image of Lakshmi (sculpted in relief and encrusted with precious stones) was hung as a pendant( Bangaru Lakshmi). This necklace with the pendant(tiny idol of lakshmi), weighing 2kg and 333mg is seen round the neck of the hill-god all week days and is also permanent adornment on the idol, except during the friday's abhishekam. This tiny idol of gold lakshmi was offered, according to a traditional account, on a friday in the 'ratna-malika-yoga' (conjunction of constellation uttara phalguni on the twelfth day of bright fortnight). Every Friday, since that time, a special worship is accorded to this image. After the customary ceremonial bath(tirumanjana) for the god, and after adorning the lord with all the jewels(just before second thomala seva(or mAdhyAhnika ArAdhanam), this pendant image is seperately given a sacred bath with water, perfumes and turmeric amidst chanting of srI-sUktha by rchakas. This abhishekam is perfomed in ekantham and only Archakas, Jeeyars, Ekangis, Adhyapakas, Vedaparayanadars and the temple higher staff are present at that time to view this tirumanjanam of bangaru-lakshmi.So there is Vyuha Lakshmi on the idol's right chest which is embossed, which can be seen only when all the jewels are removed with the chest of the idol is fully visible and then there's an gold lakshmi(bangaru-lakshmi) on the right chest which can be seen on all the time when jewels adornment is done except on friday's abhishekam this bangaru lakshmi si not seen instead the vyuha-lakshmi can be seen. As this bangaru lakshmi is given a seperate bath before mAdhyAhnika ArAdhanam. On the left chest there's a gold chain with a big(4" tall and 3 1/2 inches width) pendant of goddess padmavathi and this padmavathi idol is always present and is a permanent part of the idol. Though this is a seperate chain with a tiny idol, it is always present with the lord's idol even during the Abhishekam. it is never removed for any abhishekams and all. That means at all the times god is srI-bhUmi sahitham. According to Vaikhanasa scriptures, its not customary to worship all the gods in the idol form, there's provision for amurtyarchana( without idols but assuming there is an idol at that place). Also Panchamurthi Aradhana is followed at tirumala. There will be five idols of lord Venkateswara like Dhruva Beram(mulavirat), Kautuka beram(bhoga srinivasa murthy), Utsava beram(Malayappa swamy), snapana beram(ugra srinivasa murthy) and bali beram(koluvu srinivasa murthy).It is said that the following combination is followed while offering worship to these five idols.Dhruva beram, srI(lakshmi)-Vishnu(srinivasa(mulavirat))-bhu(padmavathi) sahithamkautuka beram, srI(lakshmi)-Purusha(bhoga srinivasa murthy)-bhu(padmavathi) sahithamutsava beram, dhruthi-Satya(malayappa swamy)-poushni sahithamsnapana beram, pavithrI-Achyutha(ugra srinivasa murthy)-kshOni sahithambali beram, pramodAyini-Aniruddha(koluvu srinivasa murthy)- mahI sahitham

Even there are no thayars present physically for bhoga srinivasa murthy and koluvu srinivasa murthy idols, worship will be offered in the amurtyarchana form.

So the different forms are as follows:Vishnu -- Vishnu, Purusha, Satya, Achyutha, Aniruddha,Lakshmi -- Sri, dhruthi, pavithri, pramodayini,Padmavathi-- Harini, Poushni, Kshoni, Mahi

Regards,

Archakam Ramakrishna Deekshitulu

Archaka

Srivari Temple, Tirumala Hills

[Guest guest]

SrI:

 

Dear Sri VenkatEsa BhakthAs :

 

Recently we had some exchange of Mails

on who is the ThAyAr seated on te Vakshasthalam

of Lord VenkatEsa's Moola BhEram .

 

It is my pleasure to share with you the most authoritative

input from one of the PradhAna Archakars of Srivari

Temple at Thirumala .

 

We are grateful to Sri RamakrishNa Dikshithulu's

authentic description of the ThAyArs on the SubhAsrayam

of Lord VenkatEsa .

 

NamO SrI VenkatEsAya ,

V.Sadagopan

- RamakrishnaDeekshitulu Archakam

Dr. Sadagopan

Friday, May 02, 2008 8:58 AM

Re: Fw: Re:Who is the ThAyAr On the left chest region of Lord VenkatEsa ?

 

Om devarAja dayApAtram dIbhaktyAdi gunArnavambhrugvAdi munaya: putrA tasmai sri vikhanasE namaha||

 

nArAyanam sakamalam sakAlAmarEndram

vaikhAnasam mam gurum nigamAgamEndram

bhrugvathrikAsyapamarIchi mukhAn munIdrAn

sarvAnaham kulagurum pranamAmi mUrdnA||

Dear Sriman Sadagopan Swamy,Excellent description of Thayars!!

Lord Venkateswara's idol is having a Srivatsam mark on his right chest, which is a permanent part of the idol. It can be seen embossed, but only on Thursdays, when the jewels are removed completely, leaving the Melchat Vastram, and on Fridays, during Abhishekam and Nijapada Darsanam. The darsan of Vakshathala Lakshmi can be seen if we come very near to Kulasekhara Padi and even from there also, we can only assume the shape of the Lakshmi. Only Archakas can see the Lakshmi on the Chest. This Lakshmi is called Dvi-bhuja-Vyuha-Lakshmi in Vaikhanasa Samhithas.

The presence of Lakshmi on the body of the Hill god is responsible for the name Sri-nivasa( the abode of Lakshmi) for him. This image of Lakshmi is in the Agamas prescribed to be two-armed and seated in the lotus posture, this form is called Vyuha-Lakshmi.

dvibhujA vyuhalakshmi: syAt baddapadmAsanapriyA|srInivAsanga madyasthaa sutaram kEshavapriyA||

And the consecration and worship of Vyuha-Lakshmi are meant to secure unbounded and eternal prosperity( niravadika-samrddhi-siddhaye). In the daily worship of the Hill-god, after the Venkatesa-sahasra-nama-archana in the morning, this Vyuha-Lakshmi on the god's chest is also worshipped reciting 16 names of Lakshmi(shodasa-nama) with the offering of tulasi-leaves after each name and also Goddess Padmavathi on the left chest is worshipped at the same time( while the 16 names are being chanted). This image is specially worshipped during the main deity's ceremonial bath on Friday's, as also during Makara-sankaranthi(kAkApudi), when this lakshmi on right chest of the hill-god receives bath with perfumed water. Ramanuja is said to have prompted one of the yadava-raya kings to offer for the hill-god a golden necklace in which the golden image of Lakshmi (sculpted in relief and encrusted with precious stones) was hung as a pendant( Bangaru Lakshmi). This necklace with the pendant(tiny idol of lakshmi), weighing 2kg and 333mg is seen round the neck of the hill-god all week days and is also permanent adornment on the idol, except during the friday's abhishekam. This tiny idol of gold lakshmi was offered, according to a traditional account, on a friday in the 'ratna-malika-yoga' (conjunction of constellation uttara phalguni on the twelfth day of bright fortnight). Every Friday, since that time, a special worship is accorded to this image. After the customary ceremonial bath(tirumanjana) for the god, and after adorning the lord with all the jewels(just before second thomala seva(or mAdhyAhnika ArAdhanam), this pendant image is seperately given a sacred bath with water, perfumes and turmeric amidst chanting of srI-sUktha by rchakas. This abhishekam is perfomed in ekantham and only Archakas, Jeeyars, Ekangis, Adhyapakas, Vedaparayanadars and the temple higher staff are present at that time to view this tirumanjanam of bangaru-lakshmi.So there is Vyuha Lakshmi on the idol's right chest which is embossed, which can be seen only when all the jewels are removed with the chest of the idol is fully visible and then there's an gold lakshmi(bangaru-lakshmi) on the right chest which can be seen on all the time when jewels adornment is done except on friday's abhishekam this bangaru lakshmi si not seen instead the vyuha-lakshmi can be seen. As this bangaru lakshmi is given a seperate bath before mAdhyAhnika ArAdhanam. On the left chest there's a gold chain with a big(4" tall and 3 1/2 inches width) pendant of goddess padmavathi and this padmavathi idol is always present and is a permanent part of the idol. Though this is a seperate chain with a tiny idol, it is always present with the lord's idol even during the Abhishekam. it is never removed for any abhishekams and all. That means at all the times god is srI-bhUmi sahitham. According to Vaikhanasa scriptures, its not customary to worship all the gods in the idol form, there's provision for amurtyarchana( without idols but assuming there is an idol at that place). Also Panchamurthi Aradhana is followed at tirumala. There will be five idols of lord Venkateswara like Dhruva Beram(mulavirat), Kautuka beram(bhoga srinivasa murthy), Utsava beram(Malayappa swamy), snapana beram(ugra srinivasa murthy) and bali beram(koluvu srinivasa murthy).It is said that the following combination is followed while offering worship to these five idols.Dhruva beram, srI(lakshmi)-Vishnu(srinivasa(mulavirat))-bhu(padmavathi) sahithamkautuka beram, srI(lakshmi)-Purusha(bhoga srinivasa murthy)-bhu(padmavathi) sahithamutsava beram, dhruthi-Satya(malayappa swamy)-poushni sahithamsnapana beram, pavithrI-Achyutha(ugra srinivasa murthy)-kshOni sahithambali beram, pramodAyini-Aniruddha(koluvu srinivasa murthy)- mahI sahitham

Even there are no thayars present physically for bhoga srinivasa murthy and koluvu srinivasa murthy idols, worship will be offered in the amurtyarchana form.

So the different forms are as follows:Vishnu -- Vishnu, Purusha, Satya, Achyutha, Aniruddha,Lakshmi -- Sri, dhruthi, pavithri, pramodayini,Padmavathi-- Harini, Poushni, Kshoni, Mahi

Regards,

Archakam Ramakrishna Deekshitulu

Archaka

Srivari Temple, Tirumala Hills

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SwaminsWhat we were not aware all these days has been adequately explained in a simple language by Sri Ramakrishna Diskshadar of Srivari Temple at Thirumala Hills. I have had the darshan of this Vyuha Lakshmi when I had the unique privilege of standing before the Lord of the Hills in a close proximity few Years back. I never imagined the significance of this Lakshmi seating on the right chest of the lord of the Hills.Thanks for this very useful informationsevel krishnanOppiliappan ; ; RamanujaandDesika ; saranagathi ; SG.AZhgiyasingar_satabhishekam ; swami.n.natarajan; rbhashyam; ; desikasampradaya From: yennappanDate: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:35:07 -0400 Re:Who is the ThAyAr On the left chest region of Lord VenkatEsa ?

 

 

 

SrI:

 

Dear Sri VenkatEsa BhakthAs :

 

Recently we had some exchange of Mails

on who is the ThAyAr seated on te Vakshasthalam

of Lord VenkatEsa's Moola BhEram .

 

It is my pleasure to share with you the most authoritative

input from one of the PradhAna Archakars of Srivari

Temple at Thirumala .

 

We are grateful to Sri RamakrishNa Dikshithulu's

authentic description of the ThAyArs on the SubhAsrayam

of Lord VenkatEsa .

 

NamO SrI VenkatEsAya ,

V.Sadagopan

- RamakrishnaDeekshitulu Archakam

Dr. Sadagopan

Friday, May 02, 2008 8:58 AM

Re: Fw: Re:Who is the ThAyAr On the left chest region of Lord VenkatEsa ?

 

Om devarAja dayApAtram dIbhaktyAdi gunArnavambhrugvAdi munaya: putrA tasmai sri vikhanasE namaha||

 

nArAyanam sakamalam sakAlAmarEndram

vaikhAnasam mam gurum nigamAgamEndram

bhrugvathrikAsyapamarIchi mukhAn munIdrAn

sarvAnaham kulagurum pranamAmi mUrdnA||

Dear Sriman Sadagopan Swamy,Excellent description of Thayars!!

Lord Venkateswara's idol is having a Srivatsam mark on his right chest, which is a permanent part of the idol. It can be seen embossed, but only on Thursdays, when the jewels are removed completely, leaving the Melchat Vastram, and on Fridays, during Abhishekam and Nijapada Darsanam. The darsan of Vakshathala Lakshmi can be seen if we come very near to Kulasekhara Padi and even from there also, we can only assume the shape of the Lakshmi. Only Archakas can see the Lakshmi on the Chest. This Lakshmi is called Dvi-bhuja-Vyuha-Lakshmi in Vaikhanasa Samhithas.

The presence of Lakshmi on the body of the Hill god is responsible for the name Sri-nivasa( the abode of Lakshmi) for him. This image of Lakshmi is in the Agamas prescribed to be two-armed and seated in the lotus posture, this form is called Vyuha-Lakshmi.

dvibhujA vyuhalakshmi: syAt baddapadmAsanapriyA|srInivAsanga madyasthaa sutaram kEshavapriyA||

And the consecration and worship of Vyuha-Lakshmi are meant to secure unbounded and eternal prosperity( niravadika-samrddhi-siddhaye). In the daily worship of the Hill-god, after the Venkatesa-sahasra-nama-archana in the morning, this Vyuha-Lakshmi on the god's chest is also worshipped reciting 16 names of Lakshmi(shodasa-nama) with the offering of tulasi-leaves after each name and also Goddess Padmavathi on the left chest is worshipped at the same time( while the 16 names are being chanted). This image is specially worshipped during the main deity's ceremonial bath on Friday's, as also during Makara-sankaranthi(kAkApudi), when this lakshmi on right chest of the hill-god receives bath with perfumed water. Ramanuja is said to have prompted one of the yadava-raya kings to offer for the hill-god a golden necklace in which the golden image of Lakshmi (sculpted in relief and encrusted with precious stones) was hung as a pendant( Bangaru Lakshmi). This necklace with the pendant(tiny idol of lakshmi), weighing 2kg and 333mg is seen round the neck of the hill-god all week days and is also permanent adornment on the idol, except during the friday's abhishekam. This tiny idol of gold lakshmi was offered, according to a traditional account, on a friday in the 'ratna-malika-yoga' (conjunction of constellation uttara phalguni on the twelfth day of bright fortnight). Every Friday, since that time, a special worship is accorded to this image. After the customary ceremonial bath(tirumanjana) for the god, and after adorning the lord with all the jewels(just before second thomala seva(or mAdhyAhnika ArAdhanam), this pendant image is seperately given a sacred bath with water, perfumes and turmeric amidst chanting of srI-sUktha by rchakas. This abhishekam is perfomed in ekantham and only Archakas, Jeeyars, Ekangis, Adhyapakas, Vedaparayanadars and the temple higher staff are present at that time to view this tirumanjanam of bangaru-lakshmi.So there is Vyuha Lakshmi on the idol's right chest which is embossed, which can be seen only when all the jewels are removed with the chest of the idol is fully visible and then there's an gold lakshmi(bangaru-lakshmi) on the right chest which can be seen on all the time when jewels adornment is done except on friday's abhishekam this bangaru lakshmi si not seen instead the vyuha-lakshmi can be seen. As this bangaru lakshmi is given a seperate bath before mAdhyAhnika ArAdhanam. On the left chest there's a gold chain with a big(4" tall and 3 1/2 inches width) pendant of goddess padmavathi and this padmavathi idol is always present and is a permanent part of the idol. Though this is a seperate chain with a tiny idol, it is always present with the lord's idol even during the Abhishekam. it is never removed for any abhishekams and all. That means at all the times god is srI-bhUmi sahitham. According to Vaikhanasa scriptures, its not customary to worship all the gods in the idol form, there's provision for amurtyarchana( without idols but assuming there is an idol at that place). Also Panchamurthi Aradhana is followed at tirumala. There will be five idols of lord Venkateswara like Dhruva Beram(mulavirat), Kautuka beram(bhoga srinivasa murthy), Utsava beram(Malayappa swamy), snapana beram(ugra srinivasa murthy) and bali beram(koluvu srinivasa murthy).It is said that the following combination is followed while offering worship to these five idols.Dhruva beram, srI(lakshmi)-Vishnu(srinivasa(mulavirat))-bhu(padmavathi) sahithamkautuka beram, srI(lakshmi)-Purusha(bhoga srinivasa murthy)-bhu(padmavathi) sahithamutsava beram, dhruthi-Satya(malayappa swamy)-poushni sahithamsnapana beram, pavithrI-Achyutha(ugra srinivasa murthy)-kshOni sahithambali beram, pramodAyini-Aniruddha(koluvu srinivasa murthy)- mahI sahitham

Even there are no thayars present physically for bhoga srinivasa murthy and koluvu srinivasa murthy idols, worship will be offered in the amurtyarchana form.

So the different forms are as follows:Vishnu -- Vishnu, Purusha, Satya, Achyutha, Aniruddha,Lakshmi -- Sri, dhruthi, pavithri, pramodayini,Padmavathi-- Harini, Poushni, Kshoni, Mahi

Regards,

Archakam Ramakrishna Deekshitulu

Archaka

Srivari Temple, Tirumala Hills