Guest guest Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Respected Swamin, Can somebody enlighten me on the following point :- 1. After the death of very, very close relation, a person is informed NOT to VISIT Divya Kshetrams, especially Hill temples like Tirumala, Sholinghur etc., for one year - till the annual ceremoney is over. Why is this being done ? I shall be grateful for anyone giving a shastram based answer. Adiyen daasan, V.S. Rangachar From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Dear Swamin, Here is my humple personal opinion on your question. This however may not be SHASTHRAM based. In those days there is no transport facility to go from one place to other. People have to walk to wherever they go, whether its Kasi, Tirupathi, any Divyadesam. Going from one place to other could many days or even months. But Shasthram says that the kartha (as specified in this case) has to perform certain rites/karmas. for first 10days, then 27th day, 30th day and for every month until the completion of year. So people might have avoided visiting any kshethrams in order to fulfill their duties. They would not be able to perform their rities if they take up any kshethradanam within the 1st year. One might not know where whey would end up on the appropriate " Thithi " that he has to do karma. This could be the reason I feel rather than any specific rule from any Shasthram. Please correct me if I am wrong. Adiyen, Balaji Srinivasan On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:37 PM, srinivasa rangachar <vsrangachar wrote: Respected Swamin, Can somebody enlighten me on the following point :- 1. After the death of very, very close relation, a person is informed NOT to VISIT Divya Kshetrams, especially Hill temples like Tirumala, Sholinghur etc., for one year - till the annual ceremoney is over. Why is this being done ? I shall be grateful for anyone giving a shastram based answer. Adiyen daasan, V.S. Rangachar From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. -- Balaji Srinivasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Dear Swamin, As far as I know, our shastrams do not say why one should not undertake such pilgrimages. However, we can readily rationalize: During those days, people did not have automobiles and thus had to travel, generally on foot. Obviously hill shrines take more time and effort- which will come in the way of performing ordained pitR kaaryams (maasikams), which were considered more important timely injunctions to be rendered by tradition. To perform them properly, it does take quiet a bit of shraddha and effort. Complex pilgrimages, which also take lot of shraddha and effort, can wait. I have seen people taking such pilgrimages after varSHaabdheekam. Also note, son's wedding is not done during that year, although, daughter's can be- in fact even preferred. That is kanyaadaanam. In fact all sorts of daanams (largely replaced by dhana-dhhanyams) are suggested following pitR viyogam. Thus Kanyaadaanam in that year is considered more special. These are one level of shaastrams. However, if we progress (I truly mean progress) to higher level of shaastram, which is Bhagavadgitaashaastram, then we can clearly see that only in words of Arjuna that traditional shraadhams and tarpanams are important. Because, for most we (and most Hindu's in general) are stuck in BG chapter 1, we are preoccupied with the most mundane and unnecessary things - which our leaders keep propagating in the name of tradition. They have a partiality towards tradition, rather than truth- that is the truth! Tradition is like tail - which is mostly vestigial for humans! It is there to save the base [basi©s of religion]. But, truth should wag the tradition and not the other way. As you will agree, a dog wagging tail is better than the other way around. Anyhow, disregarding Krishna's words, we are chasing sub-prime leaders and as aresult our own invisible tails-ever living under confusion, doubts and prayaschittams. This is an eternal problem of teh Hindus (irerspective of the sect). Remember- samshayaatma vinashyati! dAsan K.S. tAtAchAr srinivasa rangachar <vsrangachar ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 7:07 am A question Respected Swamin, Can somebody enlighten me on the following point :- 1. After the death of very, very close relation, a person is informed NOT to VISIT Divya Kshetrams, especially Hill temples like Tirumala, Sholinghur etc., for one year - till the annual ceremoney is over. Why is this being done ? I shall be grateful for anyone giving a shastram based answer. Adiyen daasan, V.S. Rangachar From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 THERE USED TO BE SOME VAIDEEKIS - AND STILL SOME VAIDEEKIS ARE THERE - WHO PERFORM - NITHYA SRADDAM FOR THE PARENT'S DEATH. IN SUCH CASE IT WILL BE WELL NIGH IMPOSSIBLE TO VISIT ANY OF THE SHRINES MENTIONED. POSSIBLY THIS HAS SPREAD TO THE DEATH OF OTHER CLOSE RELATIVES. DWARAKANATHAN On 7/16/08, Balaji Srinivasan <balaji.vasan wrote: Dear Swamin, Here is my humple personal opinion on your question. This however may not be SHASTHRAM based. In those days there is no transport facility to go from one place to other. People have to walk to wherever they go, whether its Kasi, Tirupathi, any Divyadesam. Going from one place to other could many days or even months. But Shasthram says that the kartha (as specified in this case) has to perform certain rites/karmas. for first 10days, then 27th day, 30th day and for every month until the completion of year. So people might have avoided visiting any kshethrams in order to fulfill their duties. They would not be able to perform their rities if they take up any kshethradanam within the 1st year. One might not know where whey would end up on the appropriate " Thithi " that he has to do karma. This could be the reason I feel rather than any specific rule from any Shasthram. Please correct me if I am wrong. Adiyen, Balaji Srinivasan On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:37 PM, srinivasa rangachar <vsrangachar wrote: Respected Swamin, Can somebody enlighten me on the following point :- 1. After the death of very, very close relation, a person is informed NOT to VISIT Divya Kshetrams, especially Hill temples like Tirumala, Sholinghur etc., for one year - till the annual ceremoney is over. Why is this being done ? I shall be grateful for anyone giving a shastram based answer. Adiyen daasan, V.S. Rangachar From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. -- Balaji Srinivasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008  Vaideekam and temple cultures are remnants of two different periods. People used to do yagnam every day (agni kaaryam) as well as pancha yagnam daily, of which pitR yagnam is also one. We have never figured out, even to this date, what to keep and what to let go. Our's is a culture of assimilation. Because it is humanly impossible to do everything right, we perpetually dwell in guilt and doubt. Basically feeling of confusion and infidelity. Jusr read Ramanuja's last sermon- do you know any one who can follow that? As Gita says, samshayaatma vinashyati- that is our fate. No wonder we were labeled infidels by Muslims. If we read our rules and what we do, we can also agree that we are infidels. What we need is to reform our rules. Why do we behave like Arjuna of BG 1? Why not we follow BG without the divisive and distorting bhaashyams? Original is so simple, but it is also difficult for us to be simple? We need a whole scale reformation! Return to BG, and respectfully discard other things. Respect them as cultural artifacts and not as religion. Like we enjoy  movies or thygaraja jayanthi. dAsan K.S. tatAchAr DWARAKANATHAN RAGHAVACHARI <dwarakanathanr Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:15 pm Re: A question THERE USED TO BE SOME VAIDEEKIS - AND STILL SOME VAIDEEKIS ARE THERE - WHO PERFORM - NITHYA SRADDAM FOR THE PARENT'S DEATH. IN SUCH CASE IT WILL BE WELL NIGH IMPOSSIBLE TO VISIT ANY OF THE SHRINES MENTIONED. POSSIBLY THIS HAS SPREAD TO THE DEATH OF OTHER CLOSE RELATIVES. DWARAKANATHAN  On 7/16/08, Balaji Srinivasan <balaji.vasan wrote: Dear Swamin, Here is my humple personal opinion on your question. This however may not be SHASTHRAM based.  In those days there is no transport facility to go from one place to other. People have to walk to wherever they go, whether its=2 0Kasi, Tirupathi, any Divyadesam.  Going from one place to other could many days or even months.  But Shasthram says that the kartha (as specified in this case) has to perform certain rites/karmas. for first 10days, then 27th day, 30th day and for every month until the completion of year.  So people might have avoided visiting any kshethrams in order to fulfill their duties. They would not be able to perform their rities if they take up any kshethradanam within the 1st year. One might not know where whey would end up on the appropriate "Thithi" that he has to do karma.  This could be the reason I feel rather than any specific rule from any Shasthram.  Please correct me if I am wrong.  Adiyen, Balaji Srinivasan  On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:37 PM, srinivasa rangachar <vsrangachar wrote: Respected Swamin,  Can somebody enlighten me on the following point :-  1. Afte r the death of very, very close relation, a person is informed NOT to VISIT Divya Kshetrams, especially Hill temples like Tirumala, Sholinghur etc., for one year - till the annual ceremoney is over. Why is this being done ?  I shall be grateful for anyone giving a shastram based answer.  Adiyen daasan, V.S. Rangachar From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. -- Balaji Srinivasan The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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