Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Salutations to all bhaktas. I am very glad to have joined this group and my intentions are to learn and learn further. I have been going through the mails, articles, slokas and translations from members and am learning. Thank you all for the same. I have a question that I have not got answer for. Of all the incarnations of Lord Sri Padmanabha, two are very close to the layman. Sri Rama and Sri Krishna. While there are occasions, places and shrines to remember the other incarnations, we celebrate, remember and offer prayers to Sri Rama and Sri Krishna the most. And layman’s feelings are very different to these incarnations. It would be utmost and unquestionable respect and bhakti to Sri Rama. And it would be love and much more softer feelings to Sri Krishna. This could possibly due to the very different lives that they lived. Sri Rama was principle led. Sri Krishna was love led. Sri Rama was more particular on the means of achieving a goal. Whereas Sri Krishna was willing to deviate to achieve the goal. That is demonstrated many a time during the war. Sri Rama had only one wife and never deviated from the prescribed path. Sri Krishna never followed the prescribed path, in that context. That being the case, would it not have been appropriate to give us Bhagavat Gita thru Sri Rama than through Sri Krishna? What are your thoughts? Please contribute Warm Regards, Sreeram Iyer,Mobile - 9940094095. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18 wrote:Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18Re: Sri Rama and Sri Krishna Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 12:44 PMSri Rama lived what he preached as Krishna later in the Gita. Rama was an im llustration of a perfect man and an example to humanity whereas Krishna was bhgavan svayam as Srimadbhgavatham says. He was the Lord Himself and as such His actions and life has to be interpreted differently.What He did as a child was superhuman and as a youth He was spreading His maya and all His actions were real to others bu tit was all maya. WhatHe did during the war, was the act of God dispensing the fruit of karma to each. In shor He was the personification of destiny, the Supreme spirit as He Himself showed in Gita in His visvaroopa.I am attaching my write up on the Dasavathara where I have made this clear.saroja Ramanujam--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Sreeram Iyer <sreeram_iyer2004 wrote:Sreeram Iyer <sreeram_iyer2004 Sri Rama and Sri Krishna Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 9:33 PM Salutations to all bhaktas. I am very glad to have joined this group and my intentions are to learn and learn further. I have been going through the mails, articles, slokas and translations from members and am learning. Thank you all for the same. I have a question that I have not got answer for. Of all the incarnations of Lord Sri Padmanabha, two are very close to the layman. Sri Rama and Sri Krishna. While there are occasions, places and shrines to remember the other incarnations, we celebrate, remember and offer prayers to Sri Rama and Sri Krishna the most. And layman’s feelings are very different to these incarnations. It would be utmost and unquestionable respect and bhakti to Sri Rama. And it would be love and much more softer feelings to Sri Krishna. This could possibly due to the very different lives that they lived. Sri Rama was principle led. Sri Krishna was love led. Sri Rama was more particular on the means of achieving a goal. Whereas Sri Krishna was willing to deviate to achieve the goal. That is demonstrated many a time during the war. Sri Rama had only one wife and never deviated from the prescribed path. Sri Krishna never followed the prescribed path, in that context. That being the case, would it not have been appropriate to give us Bhagavat Gita thru Sri Rama than through Sri Krishna? What are your thoughts? Please contribute Warm Regards, Sreeram Iyer,Mobile - 9940094095. 1 of 1 File(s) Dasavthara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 one of the aspect of GOD is that He is beyond rules. it is still surprising to see that a rule maker is not bound by his own rules. just like every car should have a number plate. but the prisident of india's car does not carry a number plate. this is to exhibit that the prisident, being the supreme person of the country, is beyond the rules. in the same manner, Lord Krishna is called bhagavan. that means he is the supreme person, parama purusha. there is no one beyond him or equal to him. this has been repeatedly confirmed by all the vedic literatures and vouched by exaulted sages like asita, devala and vyasa. such confirmation is also given by Arjuna in the bhagavad gita itself. therefore, it is quite logical to see that krishna voilates all the rules in Mahabharata war. Krishna does this only to show that he is above law. and if we understand this, it is automatic to understad that the supreme essence of all the vedic literature called bhagavad gita is delivered by Krishna because he is supreme. I hope this clears your doubt your servant Siva Rama Krishna--- On Mon, 22/2/10, Sreeram Iyer <sreeram_iyer2004 wrote: Sreeram Iyer <sreeram_iyer2004 Sri Rama and Sri Krishna Date: Monday, 22 February, 2010, 9:33 PM Salutations to all bhaktas. I am very glad to have joined this group and my intentions are to learn and learn further. I have been going through the mails, articles, slokas and translations from members and am learning. Thank you all for the same. I have a question that I have not got answer for. Of all the incarnations of Lord Sri Padmanabha, two are very close to the layman. Sri Rama and Sri Krishna. While there are occasions, places and shrines to remember the other incarnations, we celebrate, remember and offer prayers to Sri Rama and Sri Krishna the most. And layman’s feelings are very different to these incarnations. It would be utmost and unquestionable respect and bhakti to Sri Rama. And it would be love and much more softer feelings to Sri Krishna. This could possibly due to the very different lives that they lived. Sri Rama was principle led. Sri Krishna was love led. Sri Rama was more particular on the means of achieving a goal. Whereas Sri Krishna was willing to deviate to achieve the goal. That is demonstrated many a time during the war. Sri Rama had only one wife and never deviated from the prescribed path. Sri Krishna never followed the prescribed path, in that context. That being the case, would it not have been appropriate to give us Bhagavat Gita thru Sri Rama than through Sri Krishna? What are your thoughts? Please contribute Warm Regards, Sreeram Iyer,Mobile - 9940094095. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Hi Your question is a good one , out of dasa avatar of sriman narayanan two of them are the special. one is Rama Avatar and another one is krishna Avatar. The main purpose of Rama avatar is to show how one has to live according the vedas and sastras, thats why he has taken that avatar Thats why we say for Rama avatar is oru sol,oru Eill and oru vill every thing is only one for rama.Thats how rama lived also. Krishna avatar is extremely opposite and differs to this, where every thing is two for him The main puropose of Krishna avatar is to make dharma live. What ever krishna will do that will be only for dharma and it will be towards dharma only. In rama avatar rama has only one principle and he has lived according to that principle Where has krishna did several act only for dharma like Changing the ammavasai Reciding Gita to arjuna Giving life to Parichith So much of things he did only for dharma Yadho dharma thatho jayaha yahdo krishna thatho dharmasya To say simply Rama has followed the principle which is written in the note Where has krishna what ever he will tell that will become a note This is the main difference We can also say that he has born only to recite the gita to the world which he was not able to give in the previous avatar as he has followed the principle how to live rather give giving the principle for living Adiyen has explained according to my knowledge if any thing is wrong Please correct it. RegardsMukunthan.G On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Sreeram Iyer <sreeram_iyer2004 wrote: Salutations to all bhaktas. I am very glad to have joined this group and my intentions are to learn and learn further. I have been going through the mails, articles, slokas and translations from members and am learning. Thank you all for the same. I have a question that I have not got answer for. Of all the incarnations of Lord Sri Padmanabha, two are very close to the layman. Sri Rama and Sri Krishna. While there are occasions, places and shrines to remember the other incarnations, we celebrate, remember and offer prayers to Sri Rama and Sri Krishna the most. And layman’s feelings are very different to these incarnations. It would be utmost and unquestionable respect and bhakti to Sri Rama. And it would be love and much more softer feelings to Sri Krishna. This could possibly due to the very different lives that they lived. Sri Rama was principle led. Sri Krishna was love led. Sri Rama was more particular on the means of achieving a goal. Whereas Sri Krishna was willing to deviate to achieve the goal. That is demonstrated many a time during the war. Sri Rama had only one wife and never deviated from the prescribed path. Sri Krishna never followed the prescribed path, in that context. That being the case, would it not have been appropriate to give us Bhagavat Gita thru Sri Rama than through Sri Krishna? What are your thoughts? Please contribute Warm Regards, Sreeram Iyer,Mobile - 9940094095. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Thank you Mukunthan Gopal, for your views Pranaamam. Sreeram Iyer. Pakshi vaahana, Padmaja ramana, Pannaka sayana Padmanabha Prabho Rakshamaam Saranaagatham mukunthan gopal <mukunthan84 Sent: Tue, 23 February, 2010 21:38:24Re: Sri Rama and Sri Krishna Hi Your question is a good one , out of dasa avatar of sriman narayanan two of them are the special. one is Rama Avatar and another one is krishna Avatar. The main purpose of Rama avatar is to show how one has to live according the vedas and sastras, thats why he has taken that avatarThats why we say for Rama avatar is oru sol,oru Eill and oru vill every thing is only one for rama.Thats how rama lived also. Krishna avatar is extremely opposite and differs to this, where every thing is two for himThe main puropose of Krishna avatar is to make dharma live. What ever krishna will do that will be only for dharma and it will be towards dharma only. In rama avatar rama has only one principle and he has lived according to that principle Where has krishna did several act only for dharma like Changing the ammavasai Reciding Gita to arjuna Giving life to Parichith So much of things he did only for dharma Yadho dharma thatho jayaha yahdo krishna thatho dharmasya To say simply Rama has followed the principle which is written in the note Where has krishna what ever he will tell that will become a note This is the main difference We can also say that he has born only to recite the gita to the world which he was not able to give in the previous avatar as he has followed the principle how to live rather give giving the principle for living Adiyen has explained according to my knowledge if any thing is wrong Please correct it. RegardsMukunthan.G On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Sreeram Iyer <sreeram_iyer2004@ > wrote: Salutations to all bhaktas. I am very glad to have joined this group and my intentions are to learn and learn further. I have been going through the mails, articles, slokas and translations from members and am learning. Thank you all for the same. I have a question that I have not got answer for. Of all the incarnations of Lord Sri Padmanabha, two are very close to the layman. Sri Rama and Sri Krishna. While there are occasions, places and shrines to remember the other incarnations, we celebrate, remember and offer prayers to Sri Rama and Sri Krishna the most. And layman’s feelings are very different to these incarnations. It would be utmost and unquestionable respect and bhakti to Sri Rama. And it would be love and much more softer feelings to Sri Krishna. This could possibly due to the very different lives that they lived. Sri Rama was principle led. Sri Krishna was love led. Sri Rama was more particular on the means of achieving a goal. Whereas Sri Krishna was willing to deviate to achieve the goal. That is demonstrated many a time during the war. Sri Rama had only one wife and never deviated from the prescribed path. Sri Krishna never followed the prescribed path, in that context. That being the case, would it not have been appropriate to give us Bhagavat Gita thru Sri Rama than through Sri Krishna? What are your thoughts? Please contribute Warm Regards, Sreeram Iyer,Mobile - 9940094095. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 May be Lord to come in the avatar of krishna and preach us Bhagavat Gita since we failed to learn from the same while he was the incarnation of this very principle in his earlier avatar that is Sri Rama Avatar. In other words Sri Rama Avatar himslef is Bhagavat Gita. Adiyen Madhurakavi Dasan Thirumalai Ananthanpillai Chellappa , Sreeram Iyer <sreeram_iyer2004 wrote: > > Thank you Mukunthan Gopal, for your views >  > Pranaamam. >  > Sreeram Iyer. >  > Pakshi vaahana, Padmaja ramana, Pannaka sayana > Padmanabha Prabho Rakshamaam > Saranaagatham > > > > > ________________________________ > mukunthan gopal <mukunthan84 > > Tue, 23 February, 2010 21:38:24 > Re: Sri Rama and Sri Krishna > >  > Hi > > Your question is a good one , out of dasa avatar of sriman narayanan two of them are the special. one is Rama Avatar and another one is krishna Avatar. > > The main purpose of Rama avatar is to show how one has to live according the vedas and sastras, thats why he has taken that avatar > > Thats why we say for Rama avatar is oru sol,oru Eill and oru vill every thing is only one for rama. > > Thats how rama lived also. > > Krishna avatar is extremely opposite and differs to this, where every thing is two for him > > The main puropose of Krishna avatar is to make dharma live. > > What ever krishna will do that will be only for dharma and it will be towards dharma only. > > In rama avatar rama has only one principle and he has lived according to that principle > > Where has krishna did several act only for dharma like > > Changing the ammavasai > Reciding Gita to arjuna > Giving life to Parichith > > So much of things he did only for dharma > > Yadho dharma thatho jayaha > yahdo krishna thatho dharmasya > > > To say simply > > Rama has followed the principle which is written in the note > > Where has krishna what ever he will tell that will become a note > > This is the main difference > > > We can also say that he has born only to recite the gita to the world which he was not able to give in the previous avatar as he has followed the principle how to live rather give giving the principle for living > > > Adiyen has explained according to my knowledge if any thing is wrong Please correct it. > > > > Regards > Mukunthan.G > > > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Sreeram Iyer <sreeram_iyer2004@ > wrote: > >  > >Salutations to all bhaktas. > > > >I am very glad to have joined this group and my intentions are to learn and learn further. I have been going through the mails, articles, slokas and translations from members and am learning. Thank you all for the same. > > > >I have a question that I have not got answer for. Of all the incarnations of Lord Sri Padmanabha, two are very close to the layman. Sri Rama and Sri Krishna. While there are occasions, places and shrines to remember the other incarnations, we celebrate, remember and offer prayers to Sri Rama and Sri Krishna the most. And layman’s feelings are very different to these incarnations. It would be utmost and unquestionable respect and bhakti to Sri Rama. And it would be love and much more softer feelings to Sri Krishna. This could possibly due to the very different lives that they lived. Sri Rama was principle led. Sri Krishna was love led. Sri Rama was more particular on the means of achieving a goal. Whereas Sri Krishna was willing to deviate to achieve the goal. That is demonstrated many a time during the war. Sri Rama had only one wife and never deviated from the prescribed path. Sri Krishna never followed the prescribed path, in that context. > > > >That being the case, would it not have been appropriate to give us Bhagavat Gita thru Sri Rama than through Sri Krishna? What are your thoughts? > > Please contribute > > Warm Regards, > > > > > >Sreeram Iyer, > >Mobile - 9940094095. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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