[Ramayanaofvalmikiandkamban] [VFA-members] Live Discussion with Shankaracharyas

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Dear Mr. Deepak Tiwari,

I never wrote about Aadisankaraacharya in my previous mail.I only wrote about current Sankaracharyas.I too respect Aadisankara who was a real Sanyaasi and Vedic Sanatanadharmi.But, todays Sankaracharyas or any other Acharya of any other Sampradaaya including Modern Srivaishnavism are not Sanyaasis but are Samsaaris including Jeeyars.I am born in the orthodox Brahmin family of Srivaishnavism and also the descendant of one of the greatest Aacharya of SRIVAISHNAVISM 19th and 20th Century Vidhwanbahadoor Kazhyur Kidambi SRIRANGAACHARIYAAR, whose desciples were Annangraachaariyar and Balagangadar Tilak, to mention in particular.But, I follow none, I am a Svayamaacharya.I reveal this information to

you because, you should not misunderstand me that I am sectarian.Ofcourse, in his period it was essential to prove that BRAHMAN does exist to the world, hence Aadisankara established that Brahman does exist to the world involving in debates with the Purvamimaamsikaas who accepted the authority of Vedas but not BRAHMAMIMAMSA , VedaVyasa and Bhagavatgita.Hence, he was great.The various philosophies based on Vedas are various Levels of selfrealisation and selfexperience.So, to to say that different sampradayas following different philosophies rigidly, based on Vedas should be accepted and united like Indian Secularism which profess Unity in Diversity is a misnomar and unacceptable to any real Vedic Sanatanadharmi.For, Saznatanadharma is not a Religion , but\, it means Perpetual Law of Nature.Anyone who follows DHARMA is a Sanaatanadharmi irrespective of caste, creed, religion, gender, nationality, specie, including stones trees .There

is nothing wrong in being an Atheist as for as one acc epts the authority of Vedas and follows DHARMA one is still a SANAATANADHARMI.If one follows Hindu Religion and eats Non-vegetarian and is called a Sanaatanadharmi I am the first person to condem it.For, eating nonvegetarian is ADHARMA for a human being likr Cattles, elephants etc.According to Vedic civilization anyone eating Non-vegetarian is a Mlechcha, meaning Mean or Low person even a Brahmin eating nonvegetarian is a MLECHCHA.As for as modern Politics is concerned, That which is commonly called Politics these days is n ot Politics atall but is Pseudo-Politics.Any Tom, Dick and Harry ellec ted or chosen by any Tom, Dick and Harry is not Government or Politics but Mere ruling and Anarchy.

 

The prime qualification to form a Government is one must know RAAJADHARMA, meaning The DHARMA of Government or to Rule and the electors and choosers of Government, whatever form of Government it is, should be even more qualified.As you mentioned in ancient times the Kings/Monarchs knew RAJADHARMA and the Aacharyas and Sanyasis knew Real DHARMA. unlike modern Politics or rather Pseudo- Politics.There is no Government but,only Anarchy on earth for the past several centuries.The last of the Government on the earth was Vijayanagara Empire ruledoverby Emperor KRISHNADEVA RAAYA.Hence, to involve in modern socalled Politics or rather is pointless anjd in moderntimes Real Politics exists only in the form of Religion.Religion is a branch od P olitics and has nothing to do with GOD.The alphabetof real Politics is ARTHASAASTRA by Kautilya (alais) VISHNUGUPTA

CHANAKYA.

KSHEMAAYAPUNARAAGAMANAAYACHA

B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN.website: www.vedascience.com

 

 

Deepak Tiwari <deepak.dtRamayanaofvalmikiandkamban Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 9:56:28 PMRe: [Ramayanaofvalmikiandkamban] Re: [VFA-members] Live Discussion with Shankaracharyas

 

 

Respected Venkatakrsihnan ji,Most humbly I would beg to differ from the view-point you have expressed. I agree with you that Shankaracharyas are not the only authority on SANATANA-DHARMA. As you said there are various other Sampradays in Vedic Sanatana-Dharma out of which Sri Vaishnavism is the most prominent one. I myself am an adherent of Sri Vaishnavism.But at the same time in today's terrible times of Kali-yuga when Vedic-Dharma is facing many challenges from all quarters all saints and Acharyas of whichever Vedic sect should be appreciating in their efforts for protecting and safeguarding Vedic Dharma.

 

All Acharyas of other Vedic Sampradays (including various VaishNavs sects) have always been grateful unanimously to Bhagavad-paad Adi-Shakaraacharya as far as his divine efforts are concerned in rescuing the disintegrating Sanatana-Dharma during his times. His refutation of Bauddha-mat has been respected by all Acharyas unanimously.There may be many diversified view-points when it comes to interpreting Brahm-sutra and other Vedantic scriptures but still in facing the external threats to Sanatan-Vedic Dharma all sects have and should always stand unified together.I also don't agree with the view-point that Acharyas getting involved in politics is a bad practice. In fact it has always been in our age old tradition that Politics is guided and presided over by Dharma; Kings/Monarchs are guided and controlled by Sages and Acharys. Proper working of state comes first and then only one can talk of Dharma being

safe. ''If state is not functioning properly and is promoting adverse situation for adherents of SanAtana Dharma then how can Dharma remain oblivious to state affairs or politics? It is the most important duty of revered Acharyas of all sects to ensure Dharma is the guiding force 'in Politics. Whenever Rulers have failed to deliver their duties properly then always Acharyas and Sannyasis have come forth for the rescue of Vedic Dharma.Shankacharyas may not be the only authority for Sanatan Dharma but as a Vedic Sampraday Advaita also is part and parcel of Vedic Dharma. We all have common goal in so far as the question of preserving and protecting our Vedic-Dharma is concerned.

 

Please excuse me if I may have written something improper. My only intention in writing all this was that all pious people adhering to Sanatana Vedic Dharma should keep internal differences to just spiritual plane, and stand united against threats being posed now a days by external agencies. Internal differences should not stop us from respecting and appreciating the efforts of other sects in ensuring a state ruled over by Dharma.

 

best regards,Deepak Tiwari

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Venkata krishnan <bcvk71 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Vijay,

The Sankaraacharyas are not the authority on SANAATANADHARMA b ut the authority of the Advaita Sampradaya.For there are many Sampradayas in Sanatanadharma and those who accept the authority of Vedas, for (eg:-) Srivaishnavism is the most popular Sampradaya in the world in Sanaatanadharma for which The JEEYARS of various Mutts and the 74 Simhaasanaadipatis established by Sri Raamunaja, are the authority on Srivaisahnavism. The various Sankaracharyas publisise themselves and involve in Politics and are close to Politicians hence they seam to more popular but the JEEYARS andx other Aacharyas of Srivaishnavism dont publisise themselves and maintain a low profile and dont involve in petty Politics hence they are not known that much in Politics and world.Infact the Authory on Vedas and Sanatanadharma actually are the Jeeyars and other

Acharyas and not Sankaraacharyas for other sampradayas hears (eg:-) Madhvaacharya founder of Dwaita sampradaya , Chaitanya founder of Gaudya Vaishnavism etc. founded their Sampradaayaas based on Srivaishnavism.

KSHEMAAYAPUNARAAGAM ANAAYACHA

B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN

website: www.vedascience. com

 

 

 

friend vijai <friend_vijai@ >VFA Members <vfa-members>Cc: VFA-core <vfa-coreteam>Mon, March 8, 2010 5:48:57 PM[VFA-members] Live Discussion with Shankaracharyas

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends, Yesterday there was an interesting live discussion on Start TV Hindi channel with 2 of the 4 shankarachayars on varied subject matters affecting Hindu Dharma. Good questions were raised and were properly replied by the shankaracharyas. Subjects ranged from Ram mandir, Conversions, Godmen indulged in sex sandals, Fake shankararchaya, Scriptures, Mission , Media, Politicians, People in general. As we all know that the 4 shankaracharyas are the main custodians of the traditional Hindu Dharma, and most of the ancient temples are still run by them in conjunction with the Government, each having its own boundaries of operation. I am tried to capture the essence of the discussion for our understanding.

First point was the mushrooming of fake shankaracharyas all over India – Both the Shankaracharyas amply made it clear that in ancient times the kings would not allow such a thing to happen. Now it was the turn of the political class to take some corrective measures.

Second point was how Adi Shankara had properly organised Hindu Dharma by appointing the 4 shankaracharyas geographically, having many mandaleshwars and gave guiding instructions as to how to practise, preserve, protect and promote Dharma. – For those of us who think Hindu Dharma is not organized were in for a surprise, though it is not the same scale as the Abrahamic religions. As we all know Hindu Dharma also gives ample space for unorganised form of Dharma.

All this was done in the back drop of few neo swamis getting caught in sex scandals in the past week alone. Shankaracharyas told how difficult and rigid is for one who is from an authorised saampradaya to be involved in such a crime. As they are monitored and tested before being giving sanyasa to the aspiring disciple. However there is no check on the self-styled godmen who are running real state empires and enjoying sex lives, for which they seeked a law to control and monitor such activities.

Conversion issue was raised, and how the shankaracharyas are now actively working to protect people from falling prey and also to bring back those who converted. The anchor did not push much on this subject.

The Shankarayacarya seeked that the Ram Temple to be built in Ayodhya, but the anchor did not push on this subject and deliberately moved to another.

Regarding Hindus scriptures, the Shankaracharyas clearly elaborated that Vedas, Ramayana, Mahabharata and Srimad Bhagawatha Purana to be the gral part of Hindu Dharma. – This clearly indicates that the highest Hindu acharyas have accepted both the Vedas and Puranas thus making no distinction between them, in the true spirit of Adi Shankara.

They made it clear that that media is biased against Hindu Dharma and when a Hindu godmen is involved the media chases the story as if all Hindu godmen are doing it, and if a Christian does, it is hardly mentioned, as if it is a one time aberration. The anchor could not say much to defend him.

They also made it clear that the politicians should go to the shankaracharyas for guidance, which they seldom do. Instead the politician promotes self-styled godmen who are in favour of them. The anchor had no choice but to accept.

Shankaracharyas also appealed to people to be ever alert and learn from proper sources about Hindu Dharma and not be misguided.

I think the program ended on a positive note. As there was not sufficient time, many questions were not raised like caste, government control of temples and other issues. This is a small effort to bring the info out to our members knowledge. I hope this will be helpful. Dhanyavaad, Vijai