Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 SrI: Dear All : I do not know what this Trust is and who administers it and which temples are supported . While I appreciate the enormous outpouring of interest to help ,my suggestion is: please go slow . Please have priorites and have experienced people doing work in the field . I would hesitate to donate any funds or encourage bhakthAs unless and other wise there is a clear plan , priorities and accountability . It will take me a few more days to get all the inputs that I need to make specific recommendations to you . Meanwhile , I do not wish to stop you following various suggestions . This field is strewn with lot of disappointments , when there was no strong partnership between the donors and the Temple staff/Executives . This is a good cause but I hate to be rushed into it while we lack a clear plan of action fro near and long term . V.Sadagopan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Dear Sadagopan swamin, Forming Trusts for the upkeep and maintenance of some of the Divy Desams which need support is a huge task. Besides as indicted by you proper planning is needed. To start with senior Srivaishnavites from each Divya Desam, seeking support for the temples can spell out the immediate needs for these temples. Both financial and physical volunteering can be extended on case to case basis, to strengthen the maintenance of these temples. A common Trust to maintain these temples will run into rough weather, as lots of loose ends are to be tied up, and control of funds are to be looked after. This needs support of experienced people who are to take up the task with dedication. This is my experience as I was associated with the project undertaken by TVS in renovating the Nava Tirupathi temples, near Tirunaelveli. I hasten to add that I do not have any distrust of the people who have come forward to extend support by mobilising funds. Dasan, Tamarapu Sampath Kumaran --- " Dr. Sadagopan " <yennappan wrote: > SrI: > > Dear All : > > I do not know what this Trust is > and who administers it and which temples are > supported . > > While I appreciate the enormous > outpouring of interest to help ,my suggestion is: > please go slow . Please have > priorites and have experienced people > doing work in the field . I would hesitate to > donate any funds or encourage bhakthAs > unless and other wise there is a clear plan , > priorities and accountability . > > It will take me a few more days to get all > the inputs that I need to make specific > recommendations to you . Meanwhile , I do not > wish to stop you following various suggestions . > This field is strewn with lot of disappointments , > when there was no strong partnership between > the donors and the Temple staff/Executives . > > This is a good cause but I hate to be rushed into it > while we lack a clear plan of action fro near and > long term . > > V.Sadagopan > _________ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Mail Championship. http://uk.rd./evt=44106/*http://mail..net/uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 SrI:| Dear BhakthAs, bhAgavathAs, adiyEn watching the mails from many peoples regarding the kainkaryam/upliftment of dhivyadesam which need support in all means. After looking into the replies, it is happy to note that, many came forward to support the dhivyadesams. As said by Sriman Sadagopan Swamin, adiyEn also would like to suggest : 1)first make concrete and clear plans and decisions. 2)Have experienced persons who were already renowned in these kainkaryams and fully devoted in this field. Forming trust alone is not sufficient. It has to be properly administered and the very purpose of trust has to be satisfied. AdiyEn requests everyone to take time and please wait for some time till some concrete plans were made. It's not a matter of second! Field work has to be carried out with the assistance of some volunteers. AFter that a clear-cut framework has to be designed. For that framework to be implemented we have to form necessary plans and goals. Since this is the group-oriented task, the effective & successful implementation requires lot of human involvement and interests with devotion! DO the BEST but NOT in HURRIED !! adiyEn, senthil.b Oppiliappan , " Dr. Sadagopan " <yennappan wrote: > > SrI: > > Dear All : > > I do not know what this Trust is > and who administers it and which temples are > supported . > > While I appreciate the enormous > outpouring of interest to help ,my suggestion is: > please go slow . Please have > priorites and have experienced people > doing work in the field . I would hesitate to > donate any funds or encourage bhakthAs > unless and other wise there is a clear plan , > priorities and accountability . > > It will take me a few more days to get all > the inputs that I need to make specific > recommendations to you . Meanwhile , I do not > wish to stop you following various suggestions . > This field is strewn with lot of disappointments , > when there was no strong partnership between > the donors and the Temple staff/Executives . > > This is a good cause but I hate to be rushed into it > while we lack a clear plan of action fro near and long term . > > V.Sadagopan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 SrI: Dear Sriman Sampath Kumaran Swamin : I can not agree with you more . I have indicated my comments earlier along similar lines . authentic grass root level inputs , controls are needed to help those who need help . Last year , when we were building the Sanitary facilities at SriperumbhUthUr , some one had to be there almost daily to motivate and oversee the construction . There were a lot of locals who stretched out their hands and delayed things . Thanks to Udayavar's anugraham , the project was completed after a week's delay . NamO NaarAyaNAya , V.Sadagopan - " T. Sampath Kumaran " <tamarapusampath <Oppiliappan > Monday, March 12, 2007 11:26 PM Re: Dhivya dEsa Kaimkaryam Trust > Dear Sadagopan swamin, > > Forming Trusts for the upkeep and maintenance of some > of the Divy Desams which need support is a huge task. > Besides as indicted by you proper planning is needed. > > To start with senior Srivaishnavites from each Divya > Desam, seeking support for the temples can spell out > the immediate needs for these temples. Both financial > and physical volunteering can be extended on case to > case basis, to strengthen the maintenance of these > temples. > > A common Trust to maintain these temples will run into > rough weather, as lots of loose ends are to be tied > up, and control of funds are to be looked after. This > needs support of experienced people who are to take up > the task with dedication. This is my experience as I > was associated with the project undertaken by TVS in > renovating the Nava Tirupathi temples, near > Tirunaelveli. I hasten to add that I do not have any > distrust of the people who have come forward to extend > support by mobilising funds. > > Dasan, > Tamarapu Sampath Kumaran > --- " Dr. Sadagopan " <yennappan wrote: > >> SrI: >> >> Dear All : >> >> I do not know what this Trust is >> and who administers it and which temples are >> supported . >> >> While I appreciate the enormous >> outpouring of interest to help ,my suggestion is: >> please go slow . Please have >> priorites and have experienced people >> doing work in the field . I would hesitate to >> donate any funds or encourage bhakthAs >> unless and other wise there is a clear plan , >> priorities and accountability . >> >> It will take me a few more days to get all >> the inputs that I need to make specific >> recommendations to you . Meanwhile , I do not >> wish to stop you following various suggestions . >> This field is strewn with lot of disappointments , >> when there was no strong partnership between >> the donors and the Temple staff/Executives . >> >> This is a good cause but I hate to be rushed into it >> while we lack a clear plan of action fro near and >> long term . >> >> V.Sadagopan >> > > > > > _________ > What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your > email personality. Take the quiz at the Mail Championship. > http://uk.rd./evt=44106/*http://mail..net/uk > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 dear sadagopanji nd bhaktas, this is great. the enthusiasm nd the intention to b of service to GOD nd also to his dasans is great. the catch here is to channelise this enthusiasm in to a concrete one nd turn this energy into action. here i thank dasan tamarapu sampathkumaran for his mail. he can b of much help to us. in the mail he is not explicit as to how he is associated with TVS. nd how TVS went abt renovating the NAVA THIRUPATHIS. s, TVS has done a yeomen job in renovating these temples. if mr sampathu can detail the plans adopted by TVS, tat may b a thread which wil show us the ways nd means as to how to go abt this kaingaryam. adiyen is also interested in offering a small donation nd at the appropriate time adiyen may b intimated. wishing this kaingaryam all success with the blessings of our GREAT LORD. bye take care. - dasan narayanasamy. Dr. Sadagopan <yennappanOppiliappan Cc: divya desam Friday, March 16, 2007 1:18:05 AMRe: Dhivya dEsa Kaimkaryam Trust SrI:Dear Sriman Sampath Kumaran Swamin :I can not agree with you more .I have indicated my comments earlieralong similar lines . authentic grass root levelinputs , controls are needed to help those who needhelp .Last year , when we were building the Sanitary facilitiesat SriperumbhUthUr , some one had to be there almost dailyto motivate and oversee the construction . There were a lot oflocals who stretched out their hands and delayed things .Thanks to Udayavar's anugraham , the project was completedafter a week's delay .NamO NaarAyaNAya ,V.Sadagopan- "T. Sampath Kumaran" <tamarapusampath@ ><Oppiliappan>Monday, March 12, 2007 11:26 PMRe: Dhivya dEsa Kaimkaryam Trust> Dear Sadagopan swamin,>> Forming Trusts for the upkeep and maintenance of some> of the Divy Desams which need support is a huge task.> Besides as indicted by you proper planning is needed.>> To start with senior Srivaishnavites from each Divya> Desam, seeking support for the temples can spell out> the immediate needs for these temples. Both financial> and physical volunteering can be extended on case to> case basis, to strengthen the maintenance of these> temples.>> A common Trust to maintain these temples will run into> rough weather, as lots of loose ends are to be tied> up, and control of funds are to be looked after. This> needs support of experienced people who are to take up> the task with dedication. This is my experience as I> was associated with the project undertaken by TVS in> renovating the Nava Tirupathi temples, near> Tirunaelveli. I hasten to add that I do not have any> distrust of the people who have come forward to extend> support by mobilising funds.>> Dasan,> Tamarapu Sampath Kumaran> --- "Dr. Sadagopan" <yennappan (AT) computer (DOT) net> wrote:>>> SrI:>>>> Dear All :>>>> I do not know what this Trust is>> and who administers it and which temples are>> supported .>>>> While I appreciate the enormous>> outpouring of interest to help ,my suggestion is:>> please go slow . Please have>> priorites and have experienced people>> doing work in the field . I would hesitate to>> donate any funds or encourage bhakthAs>> unless and other wise there is a clear plan ,>> priorities and accountability .>>>> It will take me a few more days to get all>> the inputs that I need to make specific>> recommendations to you . Meanwhile , I do not>> wish to stop you following various suggestions .>> This field is strewn with lot of disappointments ,>> when there was no strong partnership between>> the donors and the Temple staff/Executives .>>>> This is a good cause but I hate to be rushed into it>> while we lack a clear plan of action fro near and>> long term .>>>> V.Sadagopan>>>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your > email personality. Take the quiz at the Mail Championship.> http://uk.rd. / evt=44106/ *http://mail. .net/ uk>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 dear swamin, I am a baby member of this group who has joined the E mail conversations. I fully appreciate the way the mails are shared with lots of info. I am a retired serior management official from a leading private organisation settled in chennai. I have joined BA Vaishnavism in Madras university a correspondence course with some contact classes. I am getting lots of info thro the e mails of this group. Ihave seen the enthusiasim regarding upkeeping of some Divya desams.Since I am retired recently and not interested in taking up any more commercial assaignments Iam free at your services regarding any help to be done in India. If I be of any help I will do it with immense pleasure Srimathe Sri Lakshminriusimha Parabrimmane Namaha Dasan Sundararajan n.k. --- " Dr. Sadagopan " <yennappan wrote: > SrI: > > Dear Sriman Sampath Kumaran Swamin : > > I can not agree with you more . > I have indicated my comments earlier > along similar lines . authentic grass root level > inputs , controls are needed to help those who need > help . > > Last year , when we were building the Sanitary > facilities > at SriperumbhUthUr , some one had to be there almost > daily > to motivate and oversee the construction . There > were a lot of > locals who stretched out their hands and delayed > things . > Thanks to Udayavar's anugraham , the project was > completed > after a week's delay . > > NamO NaarAyaNAya , > V.Sadagopan > > ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 I fully agree with sampathkumar. I am a lawyer.The procedural difficulties of common trust is very acceptable.Smaller groups will be more advantageousnarayanasamy rathinampillai <samy_n43 wrote: dear sadagopanji nd bhaktas, this is great. the enthusiasm nd the intention to b of service to GOD nd also to his dasans is great. the catch here is to channelise this enthusiasm in to a concrete one nd turn this energy into action. here i thank dasan tamarapu sampathkumaran for his mail. he can b of much help to us. in the mail he is not explicit as to how he is associated with TVS. nd how TVS went abt renovating the NAVA THIRUPATHIS. s, TVS has done a yeomen job in renovating these temples. if mr sampathu can detail the plans adopted by TVS, tat may b a thread which wil show us the ways nd means as to how to go abt this kaingaryam. adiyen is also interested in offering a small donation nd at the appropriate time adiyen may b intimated. wishing this kaingaryam all success with the blessings of our GREAT LORD. bye take care. - dasan narayanasamy. Dr. Sadagopan <yennappan (AT) computer (DOT) net>Oppiliappan Cc: divya desam Friday, March 16, 2007 1:18:05 AMRe: Dhivya dEsa Kaimkaryam Trust SrI:Dear Sriman Sampath Kumaran Swamin :I can not agree with you more .I have indicated my comments earlieralong similar lines . authentic grass root levelinputs , controls are needed to help those who needhelp .Last year , when we were building the Sanitary facilitiesat SriperumbhUthUr , some one had to be there almost dailyto motivate and oversee the construction . There were a lot oflocals who stretched out their hands and delayed things .Thanks to Udayavar's anugraham , the project was completedafter a week's delay .NamO NaarAyaNAya ,V.Sadagopan- "T. Sampath Kumaran" <tamarapusampath@ ><Oppiliappan>Monday, March 12, 2007 11:26 PMRe: Dhivya dEsa Kaimkaryam Trust> Dear Sadagopan swamin,>> Forming Trusts for the upkeep and maintenance of some> of the Divy Desams which need support is a huge task.> Besides as indicted by you proper planning is needed.>> To start with senior Srivaishnavites from each Divya> Desam, seeking support for the temples can spell out> the immediate needs for these temples. Both financial> and physical volunteering can be extended on case to> case basis, to strengthen the maintenance of these> temples.>> A common Trust to maintain these temples will run into> rough weather, as lots of loose ends are to be tied> up, and control of funds are to be looked after. This> needs support of experienced people who are to take up> the task with dedication. This is my experience as I> was associated with the project undertaken by TVS in> renovating the Nava Tirupathi temples, near> Tirunaelveli. I hasten to add that I do not have any> distrust of the people who have come forward to extend> support by mobilising funds.>> Dasan,> Tamarapu Sampath Kumaran> --- "Dr. Sadagopan" <yennappan (AT) computer (DOT) net> wrote:>>> SrI:>>>> Dear All :>>>> I do not know what this Trust is>> and who administers it and which temples are>> supported .>>>> While I appreciate the enormous>> outpouring of interest to help ,my suggestion is:>> please go slow . Please have>> priorites and have experienced people>> doing work in the field . I would hesitate to>> donate any funds or encourage bhakthAs>> unless and other wise there is a clear plan ,>> priorities and accountability .>>>> It will take me a few more days to get all>> the inputs that I need to make specific>> recommendations to you . Meanwhile , I do not>> wish to stop you following various suggestions .>> This field is strewn with lot of disappointments ,>> when there was no strong partnership between>> the donors and the Temple staff/Executives .>>>> This is a good cause but I hate to be rushed into it>> while we lack a clear plan of action fro near and>> long term .>>>> V.Sadagopan>>>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your > email personality. Take the quiz at the Mail Championship.> http://uk.rd. / evt=44106/ *http://mail. .net/ uk>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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