{Disarmed} A CLARIFICATION on Agni Nakshathram

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Sri:

 

Smt Jayasri Saranathan wrote:

 

>(1) As per astrology, agni nakshatram is the time when sun moves

>through 7paadams starting from ni 3rd paadam to Rohini 1st paadam.

 

>These are Bharani 3rd & 4th, all the 4 paadams of Kritthika and

>Rohini 1st paadam.

 

Our almanacs show the duration of agninakshatra dosha from May 4

to Jun 1st (almost same time every year!). That is from the Sun entering

Bharani 3rd padam to the Sun entering Rohini 3rd padam.

Not Rohini 1st padam. Please clarify.

What is the kind of dosha here and what if any is the

pariharam or prayaschittam? and to whom the dosha applies?

 

 

 

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SrI:

 

The agni nakshathra does start with the sun entering bharani 3rd

paadam and does end with 1st paadam of Rohini after covering 7 paadams

only. Kindly check with your panchangam.

 

Rohini 3rd paadam means 6 more days approximately, which is not so

even as per vaakhya panchangam. The agni nakshathra duration is as per

rule of astrology.

 

The computation differs from vakhya panchangam and rest of others

which take into consideration the actual position of the sun in the

sky. You can find such discrepencies with reference to important days

too such as Sri Jayanthi and in movement of planets from one raasi to

another. This is because updation has not been done with reference to

ayanamsa in computing vakhya panchanga.

 

Due to this horoscopes are marked erraneously leading to wrong

predictions. Nowadays, most people (computer softwares too) construct

the horoscope as per Drik ganitham which shows the exact position of

planets by taking into account ayanamsa correction.

 

Coming to agni nakshathra calculation,

 

(1) the 7 paada chaaram only makes sense, as Rohini is considered to

be a very auspicious star for almost all shubha kaaryas including

Kumbhabhishekam. If Rohini for most part is coming under agni

nakshathra, it can not be considered for auspicious events. Hence by

logic, Rohini can not be brought into agni nakshathra ambit.

 

(2)The approximate time taken by the sun to cross 1 paadam is 3 days,

22 naazhigai and 55 seconds. This multiplied by 7 paadams gives 23

days, 40 naazhigai and 25 seconds to complete agni nakshathra.This

year (2007 Chithrai - sarvajith samvathsaram), it starts at 1-05 AM

early morning 5th May and ends at 5-56 AM on 29th. The actual time is

approximately 24 days only. The discrepency is noted in vakhya

panchangam only. Even there, the paada charam does not extend upto

Rohini 3rd.

 

As far as I know this period is not considered for auspicious events -

the rationale of which I wrote on the first mail. Beyond that no

dosham or nothing of that sort is indicated. This period and the

bahrani, krittika are suited for wars and destroying enemies.

 

Regards,

jayasree saranathan

 

 

 

 

Oppiliappan , " M.N.Ramanuja " <mnr wrote:

>

>

> Sri:

>

> Smt Jayasri Saranathan wrote:

>

> >(1) As per astrology, agni nakshatram is the time when sun moves

> >through 7paadams starting from ni 3rd paadam to Rohini 1st paadam.

>

> >These are Bharani 3rd & 4th, all the 4 paadams of Kritthika and

> >Rohini 1st paadam.

>

> Our almanacs show the duration of agninakshatra dosha from May 4

> to Jun 1st (almost same time every year!). That is from the Sun

entering

> Bharani 3rd padam to the Sun entering Rohini 3rd padam.

> Not Rohini 1st padam. Please clarify.

> What is the kind of dosha here and what if any is the

> pariharam or prayaschittam? and to whom the dosha applies?

>

>

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Sri:

 

Our panchangam is Mysore panchangam written by Sri Sampathkrishna

Josyer if by chance, you have heard of him. i checked with panchangams

over several years, and found that agni nakshatra dosha nivrutthi is when

Sun enters Rohini 3rd padam (May 4 to Jun 1). There is no mention of

whether it is vakya or siddhanta school.

 

Of course, for Sri jayanthi they mention specifically vakya or siddhanta

or Mannar or Tozhappar etc.

 

I would like to know according to which panchangam it is ending with

Rohini 1 st padam. By the way, 'ending with rohini 1st padam' means same

as entering Rohini 2nd padam'. In our case, it is 'entering 3rd padam of

Rohini which means 'ending with Rohini 2nd padam '. So there is just 3

days difference between the two schools. Please excuse me if any mistake

is on my part.

 

Regards

Ramanuja

 

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On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, jayasartn wrote:

 

> SrI:

>

> The agni nakshathra does start with the sun entering bharani 3rd

> paadam and does end with 1st paadam of Rohini after covering 7 paadams

> only. Kindly check with your panchangam.

>

> Rohini 3rd paadam means 6 more days approximately, which is not so

> even as per vaakhya panchangam. The agni nakshathra duration is as per

> rule of astrology.

>

> The computation differs from vakhya panchangam and rest of others

> which take into consideration the actual position of the sun in the

> sky. You can find such discrepencies with reference to important days

> too such as Sri Jayanthi and in movement of planets from one raasi to

> another. This is because updation has not been done with reference to

> ayanamsa in computing vakhya panchanga.

>

> Due to this horoscopes are marked erraneously leading to wrong

> predictions. Nowadays, most people (computer softwares too) construct

> the horoscope as per Drik ganitham which shows the exact position of

> planets by taking into account ayanamsa correction.

>

> Coming to agni nakshathra calculation,

>

> (1) the 7 paada chaaram only makes sense, as Rohini is considered to

> be a very auspicious star for almost all shubha kaaryas including

> Kumbhabhishekam. If Rohini for most part is coming under agni

> nakshathra, it can not be considered for auspicious events. Hence by

> logic, Rohini can not be brought into agni nakshathra ambit.

>

> (2)The approximate time taken by the sun to cross 1 paadam is 3 days,

> 22 naazhigai and 55 seconds. This multiplied by 7 paadams gives 23

> days, 40 naazhigai and 25 seconds to complete agni nakshathra.This

> year (2007 Chithrai - sarvajith samvathsaram), it starts at 1-05 AM

> early morning 5th May and ends at 5-56 AM on 29th. The actual time is

> approximately 24 days only. The discrepency is noted in vakhya

> panchangam only. Even there, the paada charam does not extend upto

> Rohini 3rd.

>

> As far as I know this period is not considered for auspicious events -

> the rationale of which I wrote on the first mail. Beyond that no

> dosham or nothing of that sort is indicated. This period and the

> bahrani, krittika are suited for wars and destroying enemies.

>

> Regards,

> jayasree saranathan

>

>

>

>

> Oppiliappan , " M.N.Ramanuja " <mnr wrote:

>>

>>

>> Sri:

>>

>> Smt Jayasri Saranathan wrote:

>>

>>> (1) As per astrology, agni nakshatram is the time when sun moves

>>> through 7paadams starting from ni 3rd paadam to Rohini 1st paadam.

>>

>>> These are Bharani 3rd & 4th, all the 4 paadams of Kritthika and

>>> Rohini 1st paadam.

>>

>> Our almanacs show the duration of agninakshatra dosha from May 4

>> to Jun 1st (almost same time every year!). That is from the Sun

> entering

>> Bharani 3rd padam to the Sun entering Rohini 3rd padam.

>> Not Rohini 1st padam. Please clarify.

>> What is the kind of dosha here and what if any is the

>> pariharam or prayaschittam? and to whom the dosha applies?

>>

>>

>>

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SrI:

 

The duration I have given is as per Drik ganitha (Srinivasan Drik

ganitha panchangam).

 

The rule that agni nakshthra lasts for 7 paadams from bharani -2 to

Rohini -1 is taught to me by my teacher of astrology, Sri KR.

Subramamnian, M.Phil Astrology, who teaches astrology in

Madurai-Kamaraj University, and is also found in the text book

prescribed for students of astrology.

 

There are 2 explanations I can think of, for the discrepency by 1

paadam. (let me also find out from my teacher and let me also check

with the books I and my friends have).

 

One clue lies in the popular name of this period.

 

This period is popularly called as 'katthri' in tamil whcih is

equivalent of 'kartari yoga " in astrology. There are shubha kartari

and papa kartari when a planet or a house is hemmed in between planets

(sowmya or papa gruhas). Translated into Tamil, in astrology books in

tamil,we find this as 'katthri " yoga meaning hemmed inbetween the two

blades of the scissors (katthri-k-kOl)!

 

The agni nakshathra (krittika) is hemmed in between 2 Martian paadas,

Therefore this period might have been called as katthri. Bharani 4th

paada - immediately preceeding krittika has Mars as lord and Rohini

1st paada immediately succeeding Krittika also has Mars as Lord!

Therefore the katthri yoga exists.

 

Here comes the next issue. As per rules, bharani 2 paadas preceed

Krittika. Perhaps to even this, 2 paadas of Rohini are taken into

consideration to balance this katthri. Perhaps the vakhya sutra (if

there is one on agni nakshathra duration) might have mentioned

the kartari yoga for krittka. This could have been interpreted to

mean 2 paadas before and 2 paadas after. That may be how vakhya

panchangas include one more paada. Experts in vakhya panchanga may

clarify this.

 

But astrology is a subject of rational interpretation which satisfies

rational approach from different angles. The effect of agni

nakshathram is consistent with descending paada charam of the sun from

Thulaam to mesham only. The addition of Rohini 2nd paada nullifies

this.

 

regards,

jayasree saranathan

 

Ending with 1st paada means just that. Ending with it. The moment

before it enters 2nd paada.Oppiliappan ,

" M.N.Ramanuja " <mnr wrote:

>

>

> Sri:

>

> Our panchangam is Mysore panchangam written by Sri Sampathkrishna

> Josyer if by chance, you have heard of him. i checked with panchangams

> over several years, and found that agni nakshatra dosha nivrutthi is

when

> Sun enters Rohini 3rd padam (May 4 to Jun 1). There is no mention of

> whether it is vakya or siddhanta school.

>

> Of course, for Sri jayanthi they mention specifically vakya or

siddhanta

> or Mannar or Tozhappar etc.

>

> I would like to know according to which panchangam it is ending with

> Rohini 1 st padam. By the way, 'ending with rohini 1st padam' means

same

> as entering Rohini 2nd padam'. In our case, it is 'entering 3rd

padam of

> Rohini which means 'ending with Rohini 2nd padam '. So there is just 3

> days difference between the two schools. Please excuse me if any

mistake

> is on my part.

>

> Regards

> Ramanuja

>

> ***********************************************

>

> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, jayasartn wrote:

>

> > SrI:

> >

> > The agni nakshathra does start with the sun entering bharani 3rd

> > paadam and does end with 1st paadam of Rohini after covering 7 paadams

> > only. Kindly check with your panchangam.

> >

> > Rohini 3rd paadam means 6 more days approximately, which is not so

> > even as per vaakhya panchangam. The agni nakshathra duration is as per

> > rule of astrology.

> >

> > The computation differs from vakhya panchangam and rest of others

> > which take into consideration the actual position of the sun in the

> > sky. You can find such discrepencies with reference to important days

> > too such as Sri Jayanthi and in movement of planets from one raasi to

> > another. This is because updation has not been done with reference to

> > ayanamsa in computing vakhya panchanga.

> >

> > Due to this horoscopes are marked erraneously leading to wrong

> > predictions. Nowadays, most people (computer softwares too) construct

> > the horoscope as per Drik ganitham which shows the exact position of

> > planets by taking into account ayanamsa correction.

> >

> > Coming to agni nakshathra calculation,

> >

> > (1) the 7 paada chaaram only makes sense, as Rohini is considered to

> > be a very auspicious star for almost all shubha kaaryas including

> > Kumbhabhishekam. If Rohini for most part is coming under agni

> > nakshathra, it can not be considered for auspicious events. Hence by

> > logic, Rohini can not be brought into agni nakshathra ambit.

> >

> > (2)The approximate time taken by the sun to cross 1 paadam is 3 days,

> > 22 naazhigai and 55 seconds. This multiplied by 7 paadams gives 23

> > days, 40 naazhigai and 25 seconds to complete agni nakshathra.This

> > year (2007 Chithrai - sarvajith samvathsaram), it starts at 1-05 AM

> > early morning 5th May and ends at 5-56 AM on 29th. The actual time is

> > approximately 24 days only. The discrepency is noted in vakhya

> > panchangam only. Even there, the paada charam does not extend upto

> > Rohini 3rd.

> >

> > As far as I know this period is not considered for auspicious events -

> > the rationale of which I wrote on the first mail. Beyond that no

> > dosham or nothing of that sort is indicated. This period and the

> > bahrani, krittika are suited for wars and destroying enemies.

> >

> > Regards,

> > jayasree saranathan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Oppiliappan , " M.N.Ramanuja " <mnr@> wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >> Sri:

> >>

> >> Smt Jayasri Saranathan wrote:

> >>

> >>> (1) As per astrology, agni nakshatram is the time when sun moves

> >>> through 7paadams starting from ni 3rd paadam to Rohini 1st paadam.

> >>

> >>> These are Bharani 3rd & 4th, all the 4 paadams of Kritthika and

> >>> Rohini 1st paadam.

> >>

> >> Our almanacs show the duration of agninakshatra dosha from May 4

> >> to Jun 1st (almost same time every year!). That is from the Sun

> > entering

> >> Bharani 3rd padam to the Sun entering Rohini 3rd padam.

> >> Not Rohini 1st padam. Please clarify.

> >> What is the kind of dosha here and what if any is the

> >> pariharam or prayaschittam? and to whom the dosha applies?

> >>

> >>

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