Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 SrImate SrI ra'nga rAmAnuja mahA deSikAya namaH. tAtparya ratnAvaLi - Submission 22 - Slokam 13 Part 3, tiruvAimozhi 1.3 contd. · pASuram 1.3.5: piNakkaRa aRu-vagaic-camayamum neRi uLLi uraitta kaNakkaRu nalattanan antam-il Adi am-bhagavan vaNakkuDait-tava neRi vazhi ninRu puRa neRi kaLai kaTTu uNakkumin paSai aRa avanuDai uNarvu koNDu uNarndE (1.3.5). antam-il Adi em-bhagavan, aRu vagaic-camayamum neRi uLLi, piNakku aRa uraitta kaNakkaRu nalattanan. AvanuDai uNarvu koNDu uNarndu, vaNakkuDai tava neRi vazhi ninRu, puRam neRi kaLai kaTTu, paSai aRa uNakkumin – In order to resolve this dispute once and for all, empermAn who is the Creator of all and who is endowed with infinite auspicious qualities, and who narurally possesses infinite knowledge etc., analysed the six non-vedic faiths compared to the path shown by the veda-s, and showed us through His own words (through the gItA) that the path of devotion to Him to the exclusion of all other paths, is the correct path to follow. Realize this truth shown by Him very clearly, and completely detach yourself from all other attachment. svAmi deSikan captures the essence of this pASuram through the phrase " sva-prabodha pradatvAt " – Because He gives us the true knowledge about Himself through SAstra-s such as the gItA – piNakkaRa aRu vagaic-camayamum neRi uLiLi uraitta kaNakkaRu nalattanan. (Even though He is the same One who created the diverse faiths) He has revealed the true knowledge about Himself through His own words in the form of the gItA, the pA'ncarAtra, etc. He is a sulabhan (recall the guNam at the daSakam level) because He has made this information available to us through these easy means, so that we can be free of confusion, and attain Him through the path He has shown us. The gItA makes it crystal clear that we should not follow the tAmasic and rAjasic grantha-s, but should follow the sAttvic texts, that we should do all our actions by dedicating any benefit to Him alone, and that worship of anya devatA-s is for those with inferior intellect. · pASuram 1.3.6: uNarndu uNarndu izhindu aganRu uyarndu uruviyanda in-nilaimai uNarndu uNarndu uNarilum iRai nilai uNarvadu aridu uyirgAL ! uNarndu uNarndu uraittu uraittu ari ayan aran ennum ivarai uNarndu uNarndu uraittu uraittu iRai'njumin manappaTTadu onRE. uyirgAL! uNarndu uNarndu izhindu aganRu uyarndu uru viyanda in- nilaimai uNarndu uNarndu uNarilum, iRai nilai uNarvadu aridu; uNarndu uNarndu ari, ayan, aran ennum ivarai uraittu uraittu, manap paTTadu onRu uNarndu uNarndu uraittu uraittu iRai`njumin – Oh you jIva-s! The tattvam (true nature) of the Supreme Lord is not easy to grasp, even though it may be possible to grasp the subtle nature of your soul as different from the body through acquisition of knowledge, your own different experiences, intense analysis involving both depth and breadth, etc. Therefore, using all the available scriptural evidence, thoroughly analyse the tri-mUrti-s – brahmA, vishNu and Siva, with an unbiased mind, analyze, discuss, re-analyze and discuss over nd over again their complete personality, traits, attributes, etc., and then come to a firm conclusion over who is Supreme among the three, and then surrender to this one Supreme Deity unconditionally. svAmi deSikan identifies the main guNa reflected in this pASuram by the phrase :khyAta abhikhyA Adi cihnAt (uNarndu uNarndu etc.) – Because He stands out through His well-known actions and the associated fame. (khyAta – well-known, renowned; abhikhyA – splendor, beauty, luster). His name – nArAyaNa, His infinite kalyANa guNa-s, His wondrous acts of protecting the other gods at their times of trouble, His infinite Mercy towards His devotees, etc., are all well-known, and clearly show Him to be the Supreme Deity over and above all the other gods. However, for the non-discerining souls, the arguments such as the tri-mUrti sAmyam – equality between the tri-mUrti-s etc., are presented to confuse their mind. AzhvAr advises us to make an effort to understand the significance behind bhagavAn's nAma-s, His actions, etc., based on a thorough, sincere, unbiased, and serious effort to understand these based on pramANa-s, and realize who the Supreme Deity is, and then surrender to Him. Note that AzhvAr is not coming out and declaring the parttvam of SrIman nArAyaNan in this pASuram explicitly; instead, he gives us a clear direction on how we should be able to find out the answer to who among the tri-mUrti-s is the Supreme Deity, if only we take the time to look at the existing pramANa-s, and think about it in an unbiased way. He does not want to ask us to just accept his word on this. In future pASuram-s, he will make it clear what his conclusive position is on who the Supreme Deity is. There are eight occurrences of the word uNanrndu in this pASuram. The detailed interpretation of these different instances is presented in detail in the write-up for this pASuram under the title `tri-mUrti- s in tiruvAimozhi'. -dAsan kRshNamAcAryan (To be continued) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 SrI: Namo NArAyaNA Dear Sri kRshNamAcAry, Adiyen really enjoys reading your series (current as well as the monumental sahasranAmam series). Very informative and detailed in the different references used. Thanks (a very inadequate word) for your wonderful kainkaryam. adiyen, jayshree narasimhan (singapore) On 5/22/07, champakam <champakam wrote: SrImate SrI ra'nga rAmAnuja mahA deSikAya namaH.tAtparya ratnAvaLi - Submission 22 - Slokam 13 Part 3, tiruvAimozhi 1.3 contd.· pASuram 1.3.5:piNakkaRa aRu-vagaic-camayamum neRi uLLi uraitta kaNakkaRu nalattanan antam-il Adi am-bhagavanvaNakkuDait-tava neRi vazhi ninRu puRa neRi kaLai kaTTuuNakkumin paSai aRa avanuDai uNarvu koNDu uNarndE (1.3.5).antam-il Adi em-bhagavan, aRu vagaic-camayamum neRi uLLi, piNakku aRa uraitta kaNakkaRu nalattanan. AvanuDai uNarvu koNDu uNarndu, vaNakkuDai tava neRi vazhi ninRu, puRam neRi kaLai kaTTu, paSai aRa uNakkumin – In order to resolve this dispute once and for all, empermAn who is the Creator of all and who is endowed with infinite auspicious qualities, and who narurally possesses infinite knowledge etc., analysed the six non-vedic faiths compared to the path shown by the veda-s, and showed us through His own words (through the gItA) that the path of devotion to Him to the exclusion of all other paths, is the correct path to follow. Realize this truth shown by Him very clearly, and completely detach yourself from all other attachment. svAmi deSikan captures the essence of this pASuram through the phrase " sva-prabodha pradatvAt " – Because He gives us the true knowledge about Himself through SAstra-s such as the gItA – piNakkaRa aRu vagaic-camayamum neRi uLiLi uraitta kaNakkaRu nalattanan. (Even though He is the same One who created the diverse faiths) He has revealed the true knowledge about Himself through His own words in the form of the gItA, the pA'ncarAtra, etc. He is a sulabhan (recall the guNam at the daSakam level) because He has made this information available to us through these easy means, so that we can be free of confusion, and attain Him through the path He has shown us. The gItA makes it crystal clear that we should not follow the tAmasic and rAjasic grantha-s, but should follow the sAttvic texts, that we should do all our actions by dedicating any benefit to Him alone, and that worship of anya devatA-s is for those with inferior intellect. · pASuram 1.3.6:uNarndu uNarndu izhindu aganRu uyarndu uruviyanda in-nilaimai uNarndu uNarndu uNarilum iRai nilai uNarvadu aridu uyirgAL !uNarndu uNarndu uraittu uraittu ari ayan aran ennum ivaraiuNarndu uNarndu uraittu uraittu iRai'njumin manappaTTadu onRE. uyirgAL! uNarndu uNarndu izhindu aganRu uyarndu uru viyanda in-nilaimai uNarndu uNarndu uNarilum, iRai nilai uNarvadu aridu; uNarndu uNarndu ari, ayan, aran ennum ivarai uraittu uraittu, manap paTTadu onRu uNarndu uNarndu uraittu uraittu iRai`njumin – Oh you jIva-s! The tattvam (true nature) of the Supreme Lord is not easy to grasp, even though it may be possible to grasp the subtle nature of your soul as different from the body through acquisition of knowledge, your own different experiences, intense analysis involving both depth and breadth, etc. Therefore, using all the available scriptural evidence, thoroughly analyse the tri-mUrti-s – brahmA, vishNu and Siva, with an unbiased mind, analyze, discuss, re-analyze and discuss over nd over again their complete personality, traits, attributes, etc., and then come to a firm conclusion over who is Supreme among the three, and then surrender to this one Supreme Deity unconditionally.svAmi deSikan identifies the main guNa reflected in this pASuram by the phrase :khyAta abhikhyA Adi cihnAt (uNarndu uNarndu etc.) – Because He stands out through His well-known actions and the associated fame. (khyAta – well-known, renowned; abhikhyA – splendor, beauty, luster). His name – nArAyaNa, His infinite kalyANa guNa-s, His wondrous acts of protecting the other gods at their times of trouble, His infinite Mercy towards His devotees, etc., are all well-known, and clearly show Him to be the Supreme Deity over and above all the other gods. However, for the non-discerining souls, the arguments such as the tri-mUrti sAmyam – equality between the tri-mUrti-s etc., are presented to confuse their mind. AzhvAr advises us to make an effort to understand the significance behind bhagavAn's nAma-s, His actions, etc., based on a thorough, sincere, unbiased, and serious effort to understand these based on pramANa-s, and realize who the Supreme Deity is, and then surrender to Him. Note that AzhvAr is not coming out and declaring the parttvam of SrIman nArAyaNan in this pASuram explicitly; instead, he gives us a clear direction on how we should be able to find out the answer to who among the tri-mUrti-s is the Supreme Deity, if only we take the time to look at the existing pramANa-s, and think about it in an unbiased way. He does not want to ask us to just accept his word on this. In future pASuram-s, he will make it clear what his conclusive position is on who the Supreme Deity is.There are eight occurrences of the word uNanrndu in this pASuram. The detailed interpretation of these different instances is presented in detail in the write-up for this pASuram under the title `tri-mUrti-s in tiruvAimozhi'. -dAsan kRshNamAcAryan (To be continued) -- Thanks & regards, Jayshree Narasimhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Thahnk you very much for your kind words of support. It is a great learning experience for me to spend time this way than resort to other means of spending time. So I benefit quite a bit by this work. Please advise me of any suggestions for improvement in any of the write-ups. With sincere thanks and Best Regards, -dAsan KrishnamachariJayshree Narasimhan <jayshreen wrote: SrI: Namo NArAyaNA Dear Sri kRshNamAcAry, Adiyen really enjoys reading your series (current as well as the monumental sahasranAmam series). Very informative and detailed in the different references used. Thanks (a very inadequate word) for your wonderful kainkaryam. adiyen, jayshree narasimhan (singapore) On 5/22/07, champakam <champakam wrote: SrImate SrI ra'nga rAmAnuja mahA deSikAya namaH.tAtparya ratnAvaLi - Submission 22 - Slokam 13 Part 3, tiruvAimozhi 1.3 contd.· pASuram 1.3.5:piNakkaRa aRu-vagaic-camayamum neRi uLLi uraitta kaNakkaRu nalattanan antam-il Adi am-bhagavanvaNakkuDait-tava neRi vazhi ninRu puRa neRi kaLai kaTTuuNakkumin paSai aRa avanuDai uNarvu koNDu uNarndE (1.3.5).antam-il Adi em-bhagavan, aRu vagaic-camayamum neRi uLLi, piNakku aRa uraitta kaNakkaRu nalattanan. AvanuDai uNarvu koNDu uNarndu, vaNakkuDai tava neRi vazhi ninRu, puRam neRi kaLai kaTTu, paSai aRa uNakkumin – In order to resolve this dispute once and for all, empermAn who is the Creator of all and who is endowed with infinite auspicious qualities, and who narurally possesses infinite knowledge etc., analysed the six non-vedic faiths compared to the path shown by the veda-s, and showed us through His own words (through the gItA) that the path of devotion to Him to the exclusion of all other paths, is the correct path to follow. Realize this truth shown by Him very clearly, and completely detach yourself from all other attachment. svAmi deSikan captures the essence of this pASuram through the phrase "sva-prabodha pradatvAt" – Because He gives us the true knowledge about Himself through SAstra-s such as the gItA – piNakkaRa aRu vagaic-camayamum neRi uLiLi uraitta kaNakkaRu nalattanan. (Even though He is the same One who created the diverse faiths) He has revealed the true knowledge about Himself through His own words in the form of the gItA, the pA'ncarAtra, etc. He is a sulabhan (recall the guNam at the daSakam level) because He has made this information available to us through these easy means, so that we can be free of confusion, and attain Him through the path He has shown us. The gItA makes it crystal clear that we should not follow the tAmasic and rAjasic grantha-s, but should follow the sAttvic texts, that we should do all our actions by dedicating any benefit to Him alone, and that worship of anya devatA-s is for those with inferior intellect. · pASuram 1.3.6:uNarndu uNarndu izhindu aganRu uyarndu uruviyanda in-nilaimai uNarndu uNarndu uNarilum iRai nilai uNarvadu aridu uyirgAL !uNarndu uNarndu uraittu uraittu ari ayan aran ennum ivaraiuNarndu uNarndu uraittu uraittu iRai'njumin manappaTTadu onRE. uyirgAL! uNarndu uNarndu izhindu aganRu uyarndu uru viyanda in-nilaimai uNarndu uNarndu uNarilum, iRai nilai uNarvadu aridu; uNarndu uNarndu ari, ayan, aran ennum ivarai uraittu uraittu, manap paTTadu onRu uNarndu uNarndu uraittu uraittu iRai`njumin – Oh you jIva-s! The tattvam (true nature) of the Supreme Lord is not easy to grasp, even though it may be possible to grasp the subtle nature of your soul as different from the body through acquisition of knowledge, your own different experiences, intense analysis involving both depth and breadth, etc. Therefore, using all the available scriptural evidence, thoroughly analyse the tri-mUrti-s – brahmA, vishNu and Siva, with an unbiased mind, analyze, discuss, re-analyze and discuss over nd over again their complete personality, traits, attributes, etc., and then come to a firm conclusion over who is Supreme among the three, and then surrender to this one Supreme Deity unconditionally.svAmi deSikan identifies the main guNa reflected in this pASuram by the phrase :khyAta abhikhyA Adi cihnAt (uNarndu uNarndu etc.) – Because He stands out through His well-known actions and the associated fame. (khyAta – well-known, renowned; abhikhyA – splendor, beauty, luster). His name – nArAyaNa, His infinite kalyANa guNa-s, His wondrous acts of protecting the other gods at their times of trouble, His infinite Mercy towards His devotees, etc., are all well-known, and clearly show Him to be the Supreme Deity over and above all the other gods. However, for the non-discerining souls, the arguments such as the tri-mUrti sAmyam – equality between the tri-mUrti-s etc., are presented to confuse their mind. AzhvAr advises us to make an effort to understand the significance behind bhagavAn's nAma-s, His actions, etc., based on a thorough, sincere, unbiased, and serious effort to understand these based on pramANa-s, and realize who the Supreme Deity is, and then surrender to Him. Note that AzhvAr is not coming out and declaring the parttvam of SrIman nArAyaNan in this pASuram explicitly; instead, he gives us a clear direction on how we should be able to find out the answer to who among the tri-mUrti-s is the Supreme Deity, if only we take the time to look at the existing pramANa-s, and think about it in an unbiased way. He does not want to ask us to just accept his word on this. In future pASuram-s, he will make it clear what his conclusive position is on who the Supreme Deity is.There are eight occurrences of the word uNanrndu in this pASuram. The detailed interpretation of these different instances is presented in detail in the write-up for this pASuram under the title `tri-mUrti-s in tiruvAimozhi'. -dAsan kRshNamAcAryan (To be continued)-- Thanks & regards, Jayshree Narasimhan Shape in your own image. 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