ThirunedunthANDakam 14th Verse -translation reg.

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) Uthamoor swami mentions "Appullar and Desikan may be remembered here."AGreed.

 

2.---- Kaliyan and Desikan is not there in Sri Uthamoor swami vyakyanam

 

Agreed

 

That mean there appears to be factual error or error in coining the words leading to confusion.

 

It all started with bringing out Uthamur svamy vaykayanam and now this is the confusion..

So whose anubhavam is this?

 

Predicting is one thing. Paying obeseince is another. Thirumangai AzvAr predictring Svamy Desikan is not in any vyAkyanam-s Neither in Pvp's or Uthamur svAmy's.

 

Why should i argue for a thing which was never there in the UthamUr svAmy's .

 

 

 

3.That is what am saying PVP swami's vyakyanam on Thirunedunthandakam is the final word FOR YOU and not for EVERYONE.

My opinion is that we are discussing only for this particular pAsuram and for this PVP vyAkyanam is the only one, for all sishya paramparai-s.

If there had been any other vyAkyanam for this , perhpas this question is possible Since for this TirunedunthANdakam there is no other vyAkyanam, PVP vyAkyanam is final one.

 

 

Let us agree do disagree here that for us PVP vyAkyanam is the final one for me and it is not so for a few people like you (not all Svamy Desikan SishyaS as you say) Uthamur SVAmi's is the final one.

Honestly speaking i was under the impresion that even for ALL SVAMY DESIKA SISHYAS PVP SVAMY VYAKYANAM IS THE FINAL ONE, (Unless there is a difference of opinion ) but now it transpires that it is not so.

 

HOwever, let all svamy desika sishyas decide this.

 

4. Objections pertaining to philosophy Here there is no objection to philosophy.

 

5.) Objections pertaining to anubhavams Here there is no objection pertaining to anubhavam-s becasue

 

UTHAMUR SVAMY HAD NEVER SAID THAT KALIYAN HAD PREDICTED OR PAID OBESIENCE.

 

Since there are no objection for anubhavam-s, the last lines of your mail is not applicable.

 

 

SO THE OBJECTION HERE IS FACTUAL ERROR. Sri Madhavakannan' svamy message -as you reiterated- says that he folows UthamUr svAmy's . Now you are syaing that this is not in UthamUr svAmy's .

So this is a factual error of translation or coining the words. This needs to be corrected. and is the source of confusion.

 

Personal Note: Since i am leaving for outstaion today, i maynot be able to see eht emails as frequently as I use to. Further, as i said earlier, you are entitled to your opinion and for me it is mine. KInldy bear with me, svamin

 

 

Thanks ,

ramanuja dasan

vanamamalai padmanabhan