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Friday, October 03, 2008 4:13 AM

Re: A couple of questions on visishtAdvatha philosophy

 

 

> Swamin,

> Please find the reply from Sri. U. Ve.Vishnuchithan Swami,

> Melathirumaligai, Thiruvellarai.

>

> Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

> Srinivasan.

>

>

> " Vishnuchithan .S " <vchithan wrote:

> I'm afraid both the answers are wrong. On the surface, it would appear

> that a jivatma cannot occupy more than one body, so also he cannot have

> access to others' minds. While this is true in general, exceptions present

> themselves almost immediately.

>

> 1) Sage Sowbari married the 50 daughters of a king. He took 50 different

> bodies and lived in 50 separate houses with them and enjoyed all the

> pleasures. He was a single jivatma. He was able to bear all the bodies

> because of his knowledge and power.

>

> 2) Great sages can know what others think. In fact they know things that

> happened, those that are happening and those that will happen in the

> future. So also they know what others think.

>

>

>

> Of course, all this is in relation only to those jivas living in this

> world. All Muktatmas and nityatmas can take several bodies at the same

> time. Also they are all sarvajgnas. They know what is in the minds of

> others.

>

> I don't see why this should contradict vishistadvaita. There would be a

> contradiction only if every jivatma knows the mind of every other jivatma.

> In that case it would suffice it there existed only one jivatma.

>

> Ramanujadasan

>

> S.Vishnuchithan.

 

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> Ramasamy <vaishnavan

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> Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:43:54 -0700

> A couple of questions on visishtAdvatha philosophy

> Sri:

> SrimatE rAmAnujAya nama:

>

> Dear bhAgavathAs,

>

> A bhAgavathA wanted to clarify a couple of question on

> Sri VisishtAdvaitha philosophy. Please help him clarify.

>

> One of this friends asked these questions and he responded

> as follows but wanted to get scholarly opinion. I posting these

> questions on behalf of him.

>

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>

> 1. Can jivatma occupy several bodies at the same time?

>

> My reply to him was clearly not, because only Brahman can have the

> power to occupy many bodies at the same time. Otherwise, it would

> contradict Visitadvaita vedanta. Am I correct? I would appreciate if

> you or other scholars in this field can answer this question.

>

> 2. Can a jivatma have access to other jivatma's mind?

> That is, can one jivatma know what the other jivatma is thinking?

>

> My reply is no. If it were so, the plurality of jivatmas will lose all

> indviduality and end up as one atman, which will again contradict

> Visitadvaia vedanta. Am I correct in this reponse? Again, I would

> like to have scholarly opinion on this subject.

>

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>

> adiyEn

> rAmasAmy rAmAnuja dAsan