Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 SrI: Dear Sri Hari Haran : The times in which the AzhwArs lived are counted in two ways . SampradhAyic devotees would refer to previous yugams or very early dates . For instance 3,000 padi Guru Paramparaa attributes the birht of Swamy NammAzhwAr is to the 43rd day of Kali Yugam (B.C 3102) that puts us in an era few thousand years back . Madhurakavi AzhwAr, Swamy NammAzhwAr's prime disciple's time( B.C 3224) is given to be DhvApara yugam , the one before the current Kali Yugam , when Lord KrishNa lived . Madhura Kavi AzhwAr is thus considered a contemproary of both Lord KrishNa and Swamy NammAzhwAr . All the other AzhwArs are consdiered as avayaav BhUthars of Swamy NammAzhwAr , which places them after Him . Thirumangai AzhwAr is accepted as the last of the 12 AzhwArs . The three Mudhal AzhwArs ( Poygai , BhUtam and pEy) are recognized as the first of the three AzhwArs in other tradition about their times .In this tradition , PeriyAzhwAr is given the date of B.C 3056 and Andal B.C 3005 . Thirumangai is given the date of B.C 2714 . In the tradition of modern day historians , the dates of Aahwars are ascribed to the time when Bhakti traditon reached its height ( Between 5th and 10th century C.E ) . The historical references to the kings who ruleda at the time of the AzhwArs are used by these historians : 1. PeriyAzhwAr Thirumozhi: 344/ KonedumARa Paandyan 2. Periya Thirumozhi of Thirumangai AzhwAr : Paasurams 1128-1137: reference to specific Pallava Kings and Paasurams 1498-1507 , where AzhwAr refers to KocchenkOtcchOzha king. SilAsanams , grammar and style of poetry are also used to ascribe the specific dates for AzhwAr's lives . It will be very difficult to reconcile sampradhAyic period with the actual historic period. The best way is to enjoy the aruLiccheyalkaL of the AzhwArs as great gifts to us to tune our minds to their great bhakti anubhavam and enjoy the fragrance of their Bhakti laden offerings to the Dhivya Dampathis . For AzhwArs like Sawmy NammAzhwAr , Yugam , Year , Tithi , Day of the week ( Vaaram) , the star ina scendance ( Thirunakshatram) and even lagnam is given . The details are : PramAti Year inthe cycle of 60 years, VaikAsi PourNami Friday VisAka Nakshtram . Such details are available for all the zhwArs and we celebrate their Thirunakshatrams like Aadi Pooram for Andal , Aani SvAti for PeriyAzhwAr, SiddhArti Iyppasi SravaNam for Poygai , Iypaasi avittam for BhUtam , Iypassi Satayam for pEy AzhwAr , Chittirai ChitrA for Madhura kavi , Maasi Punarpoosam for KulasEkharar, Maarghazhi Kettai for Thondardaippodi, Kaarthikai RohiNi for ThiruppANar and Kaartikai Kruttikai for Thirumangai AzhwAr . The information ontheir birth places ( avatAra Stalams ) are available : 1.Poykai AzhwAr: ThiruvehhA near Kaanchi ( amsam of our Lord's Conch) 2. BhUtam: Kadanmallai ( amsam of our Lord's Mace) 3. pEy: Mylapore ( amsam of our Lord's Sword) 4. Thirumazhisai AzhwAr: Thirumazhisai near Chennai 5. PeriyAzhwAr ( GarudAmsam) : SrivilliputthUr 6.Andal ( BhU DEvi ) : SrivilliputthUr 7. Swamy NammAzhwAr : ThirukkuruhUr 8. Madhura Kavi: ThirukkOLUr 9. KulasEkharar: Kollinadu ( Kerala)/ Koustubha amsam) 10. ThiruppAnar: UrayUr near Srirangam 11. Thondaradippodi: Thirumandangudi 12. Thirumangai : ThirukkuRayaloor The Dhivya Prabhandhams of the twelve AzhwArs have been commented upon by great Commentators after AchArya RaamAnujA's times and some of them are covered in the Sundarasimham , Ahobilavalli series : http://www.sundarasimham.org http://www.ahobilavalli.org Please enjoy AhwAr's Paasurams since there are few matches for their Bhagavad anubhavam . NamO Sriman narAyaNAya , Oppliappan Koil V.Sadagopan - Hari Haran P S divya desam group Friday, August 29, 2008 7:01 AM Alwar's Time period Bhaktas, Any one tell me about the 12 Alwars Time period and thier birht place ?-- Warm Regards,Hariharan PSMob: +(91) 9842109873 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 SrI: Dear Sri Hari Haran : The times in which the AzhwArs lived are counted in two ways . SampradhAyic devotees would refer to previous yugams or very early dates . For instance 3,000 padi Guru Paramparaa attributes the birht of Swamy NammAzhwAr is to the 43rd day of Kali Yugam (B.C 3102) that puts us in an era few thousand years back . Madhurakavi AzhwAr, Swamy NammAzhwAr's prime disciple's time( B.C 3224) is given to be DhvApara yugam , the one before the current Kali Yugam , when Lord KrishNa lived . Madhura Kavi AzhwAr is thus considered a contemproary of both Lord KrishNa and Swamy NammAzhwAr . All the other AzhwArs are consdiered as avayaav BhUthars of Swamy NammAzhwAr , which places them after Him . Thirumangai AzhwAr is accepted as the last of the 12 AzhwArs . The three Mudhal AzhwArs ( Poygai , BhUtam and pEy) are recognized as the first of the three AzhwArs in other tradition about their times .In this tradition , PeriyAzhwAr is given the date of B.C 3056 and Andal B.C 3005 . Thirumangai is given the date of B.C 2714 . In the tradition of modern day historians , the dates of Aahwars are ascribed to the time when Bhakti traditon reached its height ( Between 5th and 10th century C.E ) . The historical references to the kings who ruleda at the time of the AzhwArs are used by these historians : 1. PeriyAzhwAr Thirumozhi: 344/ KonedumARa Paandyan 2. Periya Thirumozhi of Thirumangai AzhwAr : Paasurams 1128-1137: reference to specific Pallava Kings and Paasurams 1498-1507 , where AzhwAr refers to KocchenkOtcchOzha king. SilAsanams , grammar and style of poetry are also used to ascribe the specific dates for AzhwAr's lives . It will be very difficult to reconcile sampradhAyic period with the actual historic period. The best way is to enjoy the aruLiccheyalkaL of the AzhwArs as great gifts to us to tune our minds to their great bhakti anubhavam and enjoy the fragrance of their Bhakti laden offerings to the Dhivya Dampathis . For AzhwArs like Sawmy NammAzhwAr , Yugam , Year , Tithi , Day of the week ( Vaaram) , the star ina scendance ( Thirunakshatram) and even lagnam is given . The details are : PramAti Year inthe cycle of 60 years, VaikAsi PourNami Friday VisAka Nakshtram . Such details are available for all the zhwArs and we celebrate their Thirunakshatrams like Aadi Pooram for Andal , Aani SvAti for PeriyAzhwAr, SiddhArti Iyppasi SravaNam for Poygai , Iypaasi avittam for BhUtam , Iypassi Satayam for pEy AzhwAr , Chittirai ChitrA for Madhura kavi , Maasi Punarpoosam for KulasEkharar, Maarghazhi Kettai for Thondardaippodi, Kaarthikai RohiNi for ThiruppANar and Kaartikai Kruttikai for Thirumangai AzhwAr . The information ontheir birth places ( avatAra Stalams ) are available : 1.Poykai AzhwAr: ThiruvehhA near Kaanchi ( amsam of our Lord's Conch) 2. BhUtam: Kadanmallai ( amsam of our Lord's Mace) 3. pEy: Mylapore ( amsam of our Lord's Sword) 4. Thirumazhisai AzhwAr: Thirumazhisai near Chennai 5. PeriyAzhwAr ( GarudAmsam) : SrivilliputthUr 6.Andal ( BhU DEvi ) : SrivilliputthUr 7. Swamy NammAzhwAr : ThirukkuruhUr 8. Madhura Kavi: ThirukkOLUr 9. KulasEkharar: Kollinadu ( Kerala)/ Koustubha amsam) 10. ThiruppAnar: UrayUr near Srirangam 11. Thondaradippodi: Thirumandangudi 12. Thirumangai : ThirukkuRayaloor The Dhivya Prabhandhams of the twelve AzhwArs have been commented upon by great Commentators after AchArya RaamAnujA's times and some of them are covered in the Sundarasimham , Ahobilavalli series : http://www.sundarasimham.org http://www.ahobilavalli.org Please enjoy AhwAr's Paasurams since there are few matches for their Bhagavad anubhavam . NamO Sriman narAyaNAya , Oppliappan Koil V.Sadagopan - Hari Haran P S divya desam group Friday, August 29, 2008 7:01 AM Alwar's Time period Bhaktas, Any one tell me about the 12 Alwars Time period and thier birht place ?-- Warm Regards,Hariharan PSMob: +(91) 9842109873 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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