Thiruppavai Meanings: Paasuram 10:: NoRRu Suvarkkam

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The only refuge:

 

In this pAsuram, the gOpikA who is being woken up is considered as one

who has completed her vow and even attained the benefits as a result

of it. AnDAL refers to her as " nORRu suvargam puguginRa " , meaning

someone who has entered swargam as a result of her nOnbu. Here swargam

means the everlasting Krishna anubhavam that she has been enjoying.

Now we get a doubt here. When all of them are just in the process of

gathering to conduct the vow, how come AnDAL refers to this gOpikA as

one who has already completed and also blessed with the benefits?

 

NammAzhwAr refers to the inmates of Srivaramangai dhivya dEsam, also

called vAnamAmalai as " seidha vELviyar " , i.e., people who have already

completed all their vows. It does not mean that they have completed

all rituals bestowed on them, but they are those who have understood

their nature as jeevAthmAs and the celestial relationship between them

and the Lord. Its this knowledge of understanding that we are His

property and He at any cost should come to our rescue is the most

celebrated ritual here. Similar to those divine souls of vAnamAmalai,

this gOpikA had understood the souls nature and by performing that she

has already finished her vow and is enjoying its benefits. Benefit

being none other than Krishna anubhavam. Most important aspect to be

understood here is that we as SrivaishnavAs, after accepting Him as

the ONLY refuge, should not try any other means.

 

Virtues are the valuable ornaments:

 

The same gOpikA, owing to this superior quality of hers is referred to

as " arunkalam " . This term as such has two meanings. It might refer to

her as a worthy vessel to store the blessings of Krishna. Another is

that she can be referred to as an ornament for these virtues that she

possesses. Its by such virtues SrivaishnavAs get distinguished from

others. So developing such virtues makes one a SrivaishnavA.

 

 

" thERamAi va~ndhu thiRa "

 

 

Andal thiruvadikale saranam

Azvar Emperumanaar Jeeyar Thiruvadikale saranam

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Dear Sri Narasimhan,

 

If the GopikA inside has understood the nature of Atman and He is the rescue and refuge, does it mean that GopikAs outside are following means other than Him to attain HIm? This does not sound logical.

 

Sri ANDAL who gfeson this waking spree appear to have indulged in some othermeans? is it not?

can you pls. clarify?

 

thanks

dasan

vanamamalai padmanabhan

 

-

Narashiman Chakravarthy

ramanuja

Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:04 PM

[sri ramanuja] Thiruppavai Meanings: Paasuram 10:: NoRRu Suvarkkam

 

 

srirasthusrimathyai Godhayai nama:srimathe Ramanujaya nama:========================================================Sri U.Ve.Velukkudi Krishnan svamin is starting"BECOME SRI RAMANUJA SAMBANDHI" - a srivaishnava course for devotees in USA who want to learn the Srivaishnava philosophy in a simple way. Starting "JANUARY 24th 2009". email vedicsfoundation for details========================================================The only refuge:In this pAsuram, the gOpikA who is being woken up is considered as onewho has completed her vow and even attained the benefits as a resultof it. AnDAL refers to her as "nORRu suvargam puguginRa", meaningsomeone who has entered swargam as a result of her nOnbu. Here swargammeans the everlasting Krishna anubhavam that she has been enjoying.Now we get a doubt here. When all of them are just in the process ofgathering to conduct the vow, how come AnDAL refers to this gOpikA asone who has already completed and also blessed with the benefits?NammAzhwAr refers to the inmates of Srivaramangai dhivya dEsam, alsocalled vAnamAmalai as "seidha vELviyar", i.e., people who have alreadycompleted all their vows. It does not mean that they have completedall rituals bestowed on them, but they are those who have understoodtheir nature as jeevAthmAs and the celestial relationship between themand the Lord. Its this knowledge of understanding that we are Hisproperty and He at any cost should come to our rescue is the mostcelebrated ritual here. Similar to those divine souls of vAnamAmalai,this gOpikA had understood the souls nature and by performing that shehas already finished her vow and is enjoying its benefits. Benefitbeing none other than Krishna anubhavam. Most important aspect to beunderstood here is that we as SrivaishnavAs, after accepting Him asthe ONLY refuge, should not try any other means. Virtues are the valuable ornaments:The same gOpikA, owing to this superior quality of hers is referred toas "arunkalam". This term as such has two meanings. It might refer toher as a worthy vessel to store the blessings of Krishna. Another isthat she can be referred to as an ornament for these virtues that shepossesses. Its by such virtues SrivaishnavAs get distinguished fromothers. So developing such virtues makes one a SrivaishnavA."thERamAi va~ndhu thiRa"Andal thiruvadikale saranamAzvar Emperumanaar Jeeyar Thiruvadikale saranam

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Dear Sri Padhmanabhan,

 

I will get back to you on that question soon.

 

dasan

TNCN.

 

ramanuja , " Padmanabhan " <aazhwar wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Narasimhan,

>

> If the GopikA inside has understood the nature of Atman and He is

the rescue and refuge, does it mean that GopikAs outside are

following means other than Him to attain HIm? This does not sound

logical.

>

> Sri ANDAL who gfeson this waking spree appear to have indulged in

some othermeans? is it not?

> can you pls. clarify?

>

> thanks

> dasan

> vanamamalai padmanabhan

> -

> Narashiman Chakravarthy

> ramanuja

> Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:04 PM

> [sri ramanuja] Thiruppavai Meanings: Paasuram 10:: NoRRu

Suvarkkam

>

>

> srirasthu

> srimathyai Godhayai nama:

> srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

>

> ========================================================

> Sri U.Ve.Velukkudi Krishnan svamin is starting

> " BECOME SRI RAMANUJA SAMBANDHI " - a srivaishnava course

> for devotees in USA who want to learn the Srivaishnava

> philosophy in a simple way.

>

> Starting " JANUARY 24th 2009 " .

>

> email vedicsfoundation for details

> ========================================================

>

> The only refuge:

>

> In this pAsuram, the gOpikA who is being woken up is considered

as one

> who has completed her vow and even attained the benefits as a

result

> of it. AnDAL refers to her as " nORRu suvargam puguginRa " , meaning

> someone who has entered swargam as a result of her nOnbu. Here

swargam

> means the everlasting Krishna anubhavam that she has been

enjoying.

> Now we get a doubt here. When all of them are just in the process

of

> gathering to conduct the vow, how come AnDAL refers to this

gOpikA as

> one who has already completed and also blessed with the benefits?

>

> NammAzhwAr refers to the inmates of Srivaramangai dhivya dEsam,

also

> called vAnamAmalai as " seidha vELviyar " , i.e., people who have

already

> completed all their vows. It does not mean that they have

completed

> all rituals bestowed on them, but they are those who have

understood

> their nature as jeevAthmAs and the celestial relationship between

them

> and the Lord. Its this knowledge of understanding that we are His

> property and He at any cost should come to our rescue is the most

> celebrated ritual here. Similar to those divine souls of

vAnamAmalai,

> this gOpikA had understood the souls nature and by performing

that she

> has already finished her vow and is enjoying its benefits. Benefit

> being none other than Krishna anubhavam. Most important aspect to

be

> understood here is that we as SrivaishnavAs, after accepting Him

as

> the ONLY refuge, should not try any other means.

>

> Virtues are the valuable ornaments:

>

> The same gOpikA, owing to this superior quality of hers is

referred to

> as " arunkalam " . This term as such has two meanings. It might

refer to

> her as a worthy vessel to store the blessings of Krishna. Another

is

> that she can be referred to as an ornament for these virtues that

she

> possesses. Its by such virtues SrivaishnavAs get distinguished

from

> others. So developing such virtues makes one a SrivaishnavA.

>

>

> " thERamAi va~ndhu thiRa "

>

> Andal thiruvadikale saranam

> Azvar Emperumanaar Jeeyar Thiruvadikale saranam

>