Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam perumal tragedy

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Dear Devotees,

With a heavy burden i am passing the tragedy happened at

Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam(one among 108 DivyaDesams) near

mayiladuthurai, Tamilnadu. The perumal was stolen.

This divyadesam was sung(mangalasanam) by ThiruMangai azhwar.

I heard that the divyadesam is in a pathetic stage without a

archakar(priest). There was not even a single srivashinava to do service

to the Perumal and finally perumal decided to leave us, as we left him.

If we going to be still relunctant, we can forsee the same thing will

happen to other Divyadesams in near future.

It is best to renovate one Divyathesam instead of building 1000 temples.

even if we spend 1000 crores and build a temple it will not be

equivalent to a divyadesam sung by Azhwar.

So I beg you all, to pray to god for his return back to Thalaisangaadu

Nananmadiyam.

If anybody know the present situation please update.

Adiyen,

Ramanujadasan

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aDiyen was shocked to hear the news. aDiyen would like to know if it is the Moolavar or Utsavar which was stolen.

 

aDiyen would also like to know how we can help to recover the Lord.

 

ramesh narasimhan--- On Sun, 2/22/09, madhavan k <madhava2004 wrote:

madhavan k <madhava2004[sri ramanuja] Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam perumal tragedyramanuja Received: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 6:45 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Devotees,

With a heavy burden i am passing the tragedy happened at

Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam( one among 108 DivyaDesams) near

mayiladuthurai, Tamilnadu. The perumal was stolen.

This divyadesam was sung(mangalasanam) by ThiruMangai azhwar.

I heard that the divyadesam is in a pathetic stage without a

archakar(priest) . There was not even a single srivashinava to do service

to the Perumal and finally perumal decided to leave us, as we left him.

If we going to be still relunctant, we can forsee the same thing will

happen to other Divyadesams in near future.

It is best to renovate one Divyathesam instead of building 1000 temples.

even if we spend 1000 crores and build a temple it will not be

equivalent to a divyadesam sung by Azhwar.

So I beg you all, to pray to god for his return back to Thalaisangaadu

Nananmadiyam.

If anybody know the present situation please update.

Adiyen,

Ramanujadasan

 

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Adiyen ramanuja dasiIt is very sad and disheartening to know that all the uthsava moorthy of thalaisangaadu naanmadiyam was stolen.Adiyen would like to express that this is not th first time such incidents are taking place.Basically we must not loose heart.NAAYAMAATHMAA BALAHEENENA LABYAHA.we must be brave under all the circumstances.It is not the ashakthi of Archaavataara perumal but because of his sankalpam he is silently watching everything.

Even thiruvarangathu emperumaan was out of Srirangam for more than 40years during Malikaffur period.Swamy pillai lokacharyar took great efforts to save his divya mangala vigraham and with great difficulty he returned to his aasthaanam.

It is the swabhaavam of this leela Vibhoothi that even Perumal is under threat when he is here.With Bhagavat bhagavatha Acharya kataksham we may pray that lord shall come back to his Asthanam very soon.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:15 PM, madhavan k <madhava2004 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Devotees,

With a heavy burden i am passing the tragedy happened at

Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam(one among 108 DivyaDesams) near

mayiladuthurai, Tamilnadu. The perumal was stolen.

This divyadesam was sung(mangalasanam) by ThiruMangai azhwar.

I heard that the divyadesam is in a pathetic stage without a

archakar(priest). There was not even a single srivashinava to do service

to the Perumal and finally perumal decided to leave us, as we left him.

If we going to be still relunctant, we can forsee the same thing will

happen to other Divyadesams in near future.

It is best to renovate one Divyathesam instead of building 1000 temples.

even if we spend 1000 crores and build a temple it will not be

equivalent to a divyadesam sung by Azhwar.

So I beg you all, to pray to god for his return back to Thalaisangaadu

Nananmadiyam.

If anybody know the present situation please update.

Adiyen,

Ramanujadasan

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Dear Swamins,

 

Like many of us here, adiyen must say that this news has been very disturbing and have been spending sleepless nights thinking about how someone could even think about stealing the divyadampathis out of a divyadesam. How could this happen? Could we have done something better to prevent such tragedies from happening ? Maybe this is one of Perumal's  ways to get us moving... adiyen has been conversing with a few other SriVaishnavas on this topic and  wanted to share the thoughts with the group...

 

 

One issue is that the common man on the street unfortunately perceives the image of our perumal to be a mere " idol " or " statue " made up of earthly materials. Even our day to day vocabulary reflects this assumption. Once reduced to this state, the " idol " or " statue " just becomes a commodity of value that can be purchased, sold or even stolen (as in this case). Adiyen's understanding is that in our samparadayam, people refer to Divyadesam perumal with love and affection as " Archai " or " Archai Thirumeni " ( referring to his fifth form - Para, Vyuha, Vibhava, Antaryamitvam, and Archai). This also breaks the common notion that Hindus in general are mere idol worshippers which adiyen understands is not accurate. When one worships or refers to perumal in his Archai form (as Utsavar or Moolavar), one worships him in his most perceivable and accessible form that he has taken for Us ( the dwellers of the bhoo lokam with limited Gnyanam) out of his infinite mercy. Maybe this will need a change to our vernacular, our day to day language,  to get this thought across. Maybe once people start calling his thirumeni as " archai thirumeni " instead of a metal/stone, people may have second thoughts about laying their hands on him to steal. This maybe akin to using the word " Ithihasa " to refer to the Ramayana and Mahabharatha (which unfortunately gets referred by many as the Indian Mythology of Ramayana and Mahabharatha...if it is a mythology, then Rama and Krishna would be just myths!)

The sad state of many of our temples is due to the collective apathy of both the local people who are migrating away due to economic reasons and the government in whose policies we have very little say or involvement in. Many SriVaishnavas reach stellar positions in government and public roles. But we shy away from direct political involvement or policy writing that would give us a say in how our interests (Divyadesams - maintenance and repair, pilgrim assistance, roads/access to Divyadesams, Mathams) are developed. Adiyen's understanding is that the Thalaisangaadu divyadesam is in a very very remote area in the midst of fields with no access to a road, security or nearby habitation. Devotees have to trudge 2 kms inwards to get there from the nearest bust stop. The temple like all other temples is also under the mostly corrupt state ministry of HR & CE ( Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments) which collects a common fund from all other Divyadesams/hindu temples (about 20-30% of all collections) and implements a Robin Hood style disbursement of funds to needy temples. According to their website, they supposedly have an exclusive police force of 4000 ex-service men just for the protection of Archais (icons as they call it) /jewellery etc!! ...so how come our Divyadesam did not figure in the distribution scheme or the protection scheme? We have very little public policy/ political involvement to protect our interests (Unlike our great PurvaAcharyas who have already set a precedent by contributing to both the spiritual growth and in the area of political involvement by engaging kings/queens and driving enormous temple reforms and fighting corrupt authorities). Maybe if we vote as a bloc or ask questions as a collective SriVaishanva voice, we can get results even from an atheistic government. The video of the passionate speech of one of our current Srivaishanava Acharyas on this topic ,  Video of Jeer of Ethiraja Mutt on the Dharma Acharya Sabha website is a must see.

Lastly, a lot of us want to help with the maintenance of the Divyadesams and other temples but we may  not have a collective view on how to do it or the ground force to actually deliver the results . Adiyen is aware of two organizations that are doing a stellar work with full devotion, sincerity and transparency. One is the Vedics foundation in the US  (http://www.vedics.net/projects/index.html) and the other Divya Desa Kainkarya Trust (http://www.srivaishnavam.com/divyadesam108/dd_kaimkaryam.htm). It would be great if members can share information about other similar programmes that exist and how we all can participate in the Kainkaryams.

 

For folks who would like to know more about the Thalaisangaadu temple and other nearby temples, a trip report from Ms. Subashini Narasimhan who had visited the temple a few years ago is a very good read. http://www.srivaishnavam.com/divyadesam108/subha_trip2.htm

Adiyen humbly seek all of you to pardon me for any aparadhams that may have inadvertently been committed in expressing these thoughts. It is just very painful to think that one of our 108 Divyadeshams can be so easily pillaged. Our Perumal who is the Jagathrakshakan needs no protection from us mortals and adiyen believes that just the sparsham of his thirumeni on the very thieves who tried to steal him would have changed their hearts and he would return back to the divyadesam and once again grace it for his devotees.

 

Sarvam Krishnarpanam,

Giridhar Vijayaraghavan,

Dallas, TX

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Ramesh Narasimhan <ramasnra wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

aDiyen was shocked to hear the news. aDiyen would like to know if it is the Moolavar or Utsavar which was stolen.

 

aDiyen would also like to know how we can help to recover the Lord.

 

ramesh narasimhan  

--- On Sun, 2/22/09, madhavan k <madhava2004 wrote:

 

madhavan k <madhava2004 [sri ramanuja] Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam perumal tragedy

ramanuja

Received: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 6:45 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Devotees,

With a heavy burden i am passing the tragedy happened at

Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam( one among 108 DivyaDesams) near

mayiladuthurai, Tamilnadu. The perumal was stolen.

This divyadesam was sung(mangalasanam) by ThiruMangai azhwar.

I heard that the divyadesam is in a pathetic stage without a

archakar(priest) . There was not even a single srivashinava to do service

to the Perumal and finally perumal decided to leave us, as we left him.

If we going to be still relunctant, we can forsee the same thing will

happen to other Divyadesams in near future.

It is best to renovate one Divyathesam instead of building 1000 temples.

even if we spend 1000 crores and build a temple it will not be

equivalent to a divyadesam sung by Azhwar.

So I beg you all, to pray to god for his return back to Thalaisangaadu

Nananmadiyam.

If anybody know the present situation please update.

Adiyen,

Ramanujadasan

 

 

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Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,

 

I too fervently pray with you all for safe and quick return of the Lord to His Asthanam.

 

Adiyen

Srirangam Gopalan

 

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RADHIKA iyengar

ramanuja

Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:59 PM

Re: [sri ramanuja] Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam perumal tragedy

 

 

Adiyen ramanuja dasi

It is very sad and disheartening to know that all the uthsava moorthy of thalaisangaadu naanmadiyam was stolen.Adiyen would like to express that this is not th first time such incidents are taking place.Basically we must not loose heart.NAAYAMAATHMAA BALAHEENENA LABYAHA.we must be brave under all the circumstances.It is not the ashakthi of Archaavataara perumal but because of his sankalpam he is silently watching everything.

Even thiruvarangathu emperumaan was out of Srirangam for more than 40years during Malikaffur period.Swamy pillai lokacharyar took great efforts to save his divya mangala vigraham and with great difficulty he returned to his aasthaanam.

It is the swabhaavam of this leela Vibhoothi that even Perumal is under threat when he is here.

With Bhagavat bhagavatha Acharya kataksham we may pray that lord shall come back to his Asthanam very soon.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:15 PM, madhavan k <madhava2004 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Devotees,

With a heavy burden i am passing the tragedy happened at

Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam(one among 108 DivyaDesams) near

mayiladuthurai, Tamilnadu. The perumal was stolen.

This divyadesam was sung(mangalasanam) by ThiruMangai azhwar.

I heard that the divyadesam is in a pathetic stage without a

archakar(priest). There was not even a single srivashinava to do service

to the Perumal and finally perumal decided to leave us, as we left him.

If we going to be still relunctant, we can forsee the same thing will

happen to other Divyadesams in near future.

It is best to renovate one Divyathesam instead of building 1000 temples.

even if we spend 1000 crores and build a temple it will not be

equivalent to a divyadesam sung by Azhwar.

So I beg you all, to pray to god for his return back to Thalaisangaadu

Nananmadiyam.

If anybody know the present situation please update.

Adiyen,

Ramanujadasan

 

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Dear Swami,

I am very happy to read the well-reasoned and erudite write-up by you on the holiness and sanctity of our vigrahas .Let me pray with all of you that the Lord would come back safely to His abode and that the thieves would repent for their vile act of stealing Him from one of our sacred 108 divya kshetrams.

Adiyen,

Srirangam Gopalan

 

-

Giridhar Vijayaraghavan

ramanuja

Friday, February 27, 2009 3:57 AM

Re: [sri ramanuja] Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam perumal tragedy

 

 

 

Dear Swamins,

 

Like many of us here, adiyen must say that this news has been very disturbing and have been spending sleepless nights thinking about how someone could even think about stealing the divyadampathis out of a divyadesam. How could this happen? Could we have done something better to prevent such tragedies from happening ? Maybe this is one of Perumal's ways to get us moving... adiyen has been conversing with a few other SriVaishnavas on this topic and wanted to share the thoughts with the group...

 

 

One issue is that the common man on the street unfortunately perceives the image of our perumal to be a mere "idol" or "statue"made up of earthly materials. Even our day to day vocabulary reflects this assumption. Once reduced to this state, the "idol" or "statue" just becomes a commodity of value that can be purchased, sold or even stolen (as in this case). Adiyen's understanding is that in our samparadayam, people refer to Divyadesam perumal with love and affection as "Archai" or "Archai Thirumeni" ( referring to his fifth form - Para, Vyuha, Vibhava, Antaryamitvam, and Archai). This also breaks the common notion that Hindus in general are mere idol worshippers which adiyen understands is not accurate. When one worships or refers to perumal in his Archai form (as Utsavar or Moolavar), one worships him in his most perceivable and accessible form that he has taken for Us ( the dwellers of the bhoo lokam with limited Gnyanam) out of his infinite mercy. Maybe this will need a change to our vernacular, our day to day language, to get this thought across. Maybe once people start calling his thirumeni as "archai thirumeni" instead of a metal/stone, people may have second thoughts about laying their hands on him to steal. This maybe akin to using the word "Ithihasa" to refer to the Ramayana and Mahabharatha (which unfortunately gets referred by many as the Indian Mythology of Ramayana and Mahabharatha...if it is a mythology, then Rama and Krishna would be just myths!) The sad state of many of our temples is due to the collective apathy of both the local people who are migrating away due to economic reasons and the government in whose policies we have very little say or involvement in. Many SriVaishnavas reach stellar positions in government and public roles. But we shy away from direct political involvement or policy writing that would give us a say in how our interests (Divyadesams - maintenance and repair, pilgrim assistance, roads/access to Divyadesams, Mathams) are developed. Adiyen's understanding is that the Thalaisangaadu divyadesam is in a very very remote area in the midst of fields with no access to a road, security or nearby habitation. Devotees have to trudge 2 kms inwards to get there from the nearest bust stop. The temple like all other temples is also under the mostly corrupt state ministry of HR & CE ( Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments) which collects a common fund from all other Divyadesams/hindu temples (about 20-30% of all collections) and implements a Robin Hood style disbursement of funds to needy temples. According to their website, they supposedly have an exclusive police force of 4000 ex-service men just for the protection of Archais (icons as they call it) /jewellery etc!! ...so how come our Divyadesam did not figure in the distribution scheme or the protection scheme? We have very little public policy/ political involvement to protect our interests (Unlike our great PurvaAcharyas who have already set a precedent by contributing to both the spiritual growth and in the area of political involvement by engaging kings/queens and driving enormous temple reforms and fighting corrupt authorities). Maybe if we vote as a bloc or ask questions as a collective SriVaishanva voice, we can get results even from an atheistic government. The video of the passionate speech of one of our current Srivaishanava Acharyas on this topic , Video of Jeer of Ethiraja Mutt on the Dharma Acharya Sabha website is a must see. Lastly, a lot of us want to help with the maintenance of the Divyadesams and other temples but we may not have a collective view on how to do it or the ground force to actually deliver the results . Adiyen is aware of two organizations that are doing a stellar work with full devotion, sincerity and transparency. One is the Vedics foundation in the US (http://www.vedics.net/projects/index.html) and the other Divya Desa Kainkarya Trust (http://www.srivaishnavam.com/divyadesam108/dd_kaimkaryam.htm). It would be great if members can share information about other similar programmes that exist and how we all can participate in the Kainkaryams.

For folks who would like to know more about the Thalaisangaadu temple and other nearby temples, a trip report from Ms. Subashini Narasimhan who had visited the temple a few years ago is a very good read. http://www.srivaishnavam.com/divyadesam108/subha_trip2.htm

Adiyen humbly seek all of you to pardon me for any aparadhams that may have inadvertently been committed in expressing these thoughts. It is just very painful to think that one of our 108 Divyadeshams can be so easily pillaged. Our Perumal who is the Jagathrakshakan needs no protection from us mortals and adiyen believes that just the sparsham of his thirumeni on the very thieves who tried to steal him would have changed their hearts and he would return back to the divyadesam and once again grace it for his devotees.

 

Sarvam Krishnarpanam,

Giridhar Vijayaraghavan,

Dallas, TX

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Ramesh Narasimhan <ramasnra (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

aDiyen was shocked to hear the news. aDiyen would like to know if it is the Moolavar or Utsavar which was stolen.

 

aDiyen would also like to know how we can help to recover the Lord.

 

ramesh narasimhan

--- On Sun, 2/22/09, madhavan k <madhava2004 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

madhavan k <madhava2004 (AT) (DOT) co.in> [sri ramanuja] Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam perumal tragedy

ramanuja

Received: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 6:45 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Devotees,

With a heavy burden i am passing the tragedy happened at

Thalaisangaadu Nananmadiyam( one among 108 DivyaDesams) near

mayiladuthurai, Tamilnadu. The perumal was stolen.

This divyadesam was sung(mangalasanam) by ThiruMangai azhwar.

I heard that the divyadesam is in a pathetic stage without a

archakar(priest) . There was not even a single srivashinava to do service

to the Perumal and finally perumal decided to leave us, as we left him.

If we going to be still relunctant, we can forsee the same thing will

happen to other Divyadesams in near future.

It is best to renovate one Divyathesam instead of building 1000 temples.

even if we spend 1000 crores and build a temple it will not be

equivalent to a divyadesam sung by Azhwar.

So I beg you all, to pray to god for his return back to Thalaisangaadu

Nananmadiyam.

If anybody know the present situation please update.

Adiyen,

Ramanujadasan

 

 

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