Guest guest Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Jai Srimannarayana! Pasuram -.1.9 ulanenil ulan avan uruvam ivvuruvugal ulanalan enil avan aruvam ivvaruvugal ulan ena ilan ena ivai gunam udainmaiyil ulaniru thaga:imaiyodu ozivilan parandhe: ulan avan enil ulan- If it is claimed that He exists, He does. avan uruvam ivvuruvugal- In which case all the forms are His. ulan alan enil- If it is contended that He is not, then He becomes all that is unmanifest, avan aruvam ivvaruvugal ulan ena----udaimaiyil- He has both manifest and unmanifest as His modes. Hence He is ozindhilan parandhuLan, all-encompassing, and all-pervading. The existence and non-existence, both are His modes. In visishtadvaita everything is real and the sentient and the non-sentient exist in the manifest state after the creation of the Universe and in the unmanifest state before creation. Destruction does not mean non-existence but only that the thing exists in another state. When a pot is destroyed it does not cease to exist but continues to exist as potsherds. What has been destroyed is only the form and not the substance. It never ceased to exist even before its creation but existed in the form of mud. Even those who deny God cannot deny Him altogether but only deny Him as such. Bha:va is being and abha:va is non-being, both are only the modes of Brahman. Abhava can either be pra:gabha:va, prior nonexistence or pradhvamsa:bha:va , posterior non-existence or destruction , both of which has been denied in Brahman who is eternal and all those with form and those which are formless are nothing but Brahman. Neither mutual nonexistence , anyonya abha:va, as when we say that the pot is not the cloth is appropriate with Brahman because there is nothing else except Him everywhere. Lastly the fourth kind of abhava, namely athyanthaabha:va, absolute non-existence, like that of skyflower, could be said of Brahman because it is the sole reality. That is why Azvar says that He is both form and the formless. When He is not it is because He is not cognized by the normal means of knowledge. Moreover to say a thing does not exist is possible only when assuming that thing o be capable of existence as it is absurd to say that the horn of a hare does not exist. When one says God is not he first assumes a thing called God and then denies it because a thing that never existed cannot be denied. Both existence and non-existence acquire their meaning because of Brahman because He pervades all and exists as form and formless both of which are His attributes. Jai Srimannarayana! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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