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Jai Srimannarayana!

 

yassva:nubha:vam akhilasruthisa:ram:kam

adhya:thmadheepam athithitheershatha:m thamo andham

samsa:rina:m karunaya: a:ha pura:naguhyam

tham vya:sasoonum upaya:mi gurum muneena:m

 

" I surrender to the son of Vya:sa, the preceptor of the sages, who, out of mercy

for the souls in samsara who wish to cross over the dense darkness of ignorance,

told this Bhagavathpurana which is the secret that provides the experience of

the Self, the essence of the vedas,of supreme merit and is like the lamp for

self knowledge. "

 

Then sootha starts to narrate the purana after the customary invocation verse,

na:ra:yanam namaskrthya naram chaiva naro:tthamam

dheveem sarasvatheem vya:sam thatho: jayam udheeraye:th

 

The purana known as Jaya should be told after salutations to Narayana and Nara,

the supreme purusha an sage Vyasa and goddess Sarasvathi.

 

Usually Mahabharatha is only known as Jaya but here Bhagavatha purana is also

referred to as Jaya in the sense, 'jayathi ane:na samsa:ram ithi jayah,' one

conquers samsara with this.

 

The word 'jaya' denotes the number 18 according to katapaya:dhi sankhya and

Mahabharatha was called jaya as it is connected with the number 18. It contains

18 parvas and the mahabharatha war went on for 18 days and the Bhagavatgita, the

crest jewel of Mahabharatha contains 18 chapters.Bhagavtha also contains 18000

slokas and 18 is the number of Krishnamanthra.

 

Jai Srimannarayana!

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Asmath Gurubhyo namaha.

Gnyaanadamayam Devam Nirmal Spatikaakrithim, Adhaaram sarva vidyaanaam

Hayagreevam-upaasmahe!

 

Respected SarojRam Garu,

 

I appreciate your efforts in the noble cause of bringing Srimath

Bhagavatham to this news group. I may not be as learned as you, and

may not be qualified to comment. However, I have a serious objection

to your interpretation of thetext. In my opinion, and the opinion of

many Vaishnavas, adhyahmikadeepam is not lamp of self knowledge as you

translated. Athma is notself. Advaithis refer to athma as self.

adhyathmika is not selfknowledge but transcedental (spiritual)

knowledge). The word svanubhamhere refers to Sri Sukah munindra who

has assimilated it by self experiencing it,is telling the Bhagavatham.

In my opinion,Bhagavatham is not about self knowledge; It is about

Jeevathma and Parmaathma. I request you to kindly restrain from using

Advaithic terminology.

 

Jai Sriman Narayana

Narender P. Reddy

, " sarojram18 " <sarojram18 wrote:

> Jai Srimannarayana!

>

> yassva:nubha:vam akhilasruthisa:ram:kam

> adhya:thmadheepam athithitheershatha:m thamo andham

> samsa:rina:m karunaya: a:ha pura:naguhyam

> tham vya:sasoonum upaya:mi gurum muneena:m

>

> " I surrender to the son of Vya:sa, the preceptor of the sages, who,

out of mercy for the souls in samsara who wish to cross over the dense

darkness of ignorance, told this Bhagavathpurana which is the secret

that provides the experience of the Self, the essence of the vedas,of

supreme merit and is like the lamp for self knowledge. "

>

> Then sootha starts to narrate the purana after the customary

invocation verse,

> na:ra:yanam namaskrthya naram chaiva naro:tthamam

> dheveem sarasvatheem vya:sam thatho: jayam udheeraye:th

>

> The purana known as Jaya should be told after salutations to

Narayana and Nara, the supreme purusha an sage Vyasa and goddess

Sarasvathi.

>

> Usually Mahabharatha is only known as Jaya but here Bhagavatha

purana is also referred to as Jaya in the sense, 'jayathi ane:na

samsa:ram ithi jayah,' one conquers samsara with this.

>

> The word 'jaya' denotes the number 18 according to katapaya:dhi

sankhya and Mahabharatha was called jaya as it is connected with the

number 18. It contains 18 parvas and the mahabharatha war went on for

18 days and the Bhagavatgita, the crest jewel of Mahabharatha contains

18 chapters.Bhagavtha also contains 18000 slokas and 18 is the number

of Krishnamanthra.

>

> Jai Srimannarayana!

>

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Jai Srimannarayana!

Dear Sri Narenderji,

 

The term self knowledge need not be interpreted as an advaityic terminology. In

visishtadhvaitha the real self is the inner self of the self, the Lord Himself,

the inner self of all. And hence the adhyathmavidhya is the knowledge of the

real self that is, Narayana. Just because some use the term to suit their need

we need not avoid the words which can also be construed to give us the true

Vedic meaning - the visishtadvaita concepts.

 

I did not elaborate on this because I have given only the literal

translation. I was once criticized for using the words soul and God that they

are Christian terminologies. The words are what they are and we give different

interpretations to it. For instance the word Brahman or parabrahman is common to

all but for us Brahman is synonymous with Narayana. So the words are common to

all beliefs and only the definitions are different.

 

Srimadbhagvatham is a complete treatise and should not be viewed in parts and

interpreted accordingly.

 

Jai Srimannarayana!