Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Jai Sriman Narayana! Dr. Susarla's question is " What is the correct understanding of this mantra from the rihadaaranyaka Upanishad 8.4.18? I have seen people translating this o mean that one who desires a son should eat the meat of a young bull. his makes no sense to me, given the multiple references in the Rig eda describing the cow to be something which deserves protection " The shloka in question is shloka #18 from ashtamodyaya (8th chapter), chathurtha (4th) bra:hmanam " Atha iche puthrome panditgjanayithva: .............. oukshenava:rishabe:nava " My final reply is as follows: Yes, the external meaning appears to be that by mixing the food with the meet of a bull (mature in age) cooked in ghee and eating it, one would get a son who is fully versed in all four vedas. Vedas are written such a way that they are bewildering to the outsider. As Parasara Bhattar varu points out the vedic literature has to be looked through the glass of Bhakthi (Bhakthi siddanjanena....). Rishaba (bull) has been used in our literature to refer to a strong person. Now, the question is who is strong? That too, the shloka is referring to a young bull; that means very strong. All the puranas reveal that a pure devotee of Lord Sriman Narayana is very strong unperturbed by anything( for example Prahlada). Prahlada is like a untamed young bull (young rishaba) untamed by all the disasters created by hiranyakashipu. Now, what is the underlying cause (meat) of this extreme strength? It is uninterrupted niranthara smarana of Lord Hari (Sriman Narayana). Therefore. the true meaning of the shloka is that by eating food (rice cooked in ghee) which has been offerred to Lord Sriman Narayana after mixing it with the nectar of the praise of His kalyana gunas with intense love for Him, and by niranthara Hari smaranam even at the time of conception, one would get a son who is a devotee of the Lord and a maha panditha (scholar) who is well versed in all four vedas. With all glories to Lord Sri Venkateswara, and to Surahbhi and family, and thousands of pranams to His Holiness Jagadguru Sri Sri Sri Thridand Sriman Naryana Ramanuja Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji, I remain. Sincerely Narender P. Reddy QUESTION) " Hari Krishna Susarla " Brihadaaranyaka Upanishad 6.4.18 What is the correct understanding of this mantra from the Brihadaaranyaka Upanishad 6.4.18? I have seen people translating this to mean that one who desires a son should eat the meat of a young bull. This makes no sense to me, given the multiple references in the Rig Veda describing the cow to be something which deserves protection. I have the commentary of Madhva on this Upanishad, and strangely, he does not comment on 6.4 at all. I also looked at the commentary published by the Gaudiya Math, and it too simply ignores these mantras. I would appreciate any light you can shed on this matter. Actually, I think this section of the Brihadaaranyaka contains many " controversial " verses. But if they are shruti, then Vaishnavas should accept them, should they not? S. HariKrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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