Visistadvaitha 10 (Theist)

[Guest guest]

Jai Srimannarayana!

 

We both met the “Believer” in God. I questioned him as follows:

 

“See this my friend who believe in God! I have another friend who is this

atheist.

 

(I then introduced our atheist to the “Believer” in God.).

Both met each other with contempt in their sights. After this introduction, I

addressed the “Believer” in God as follows:

 

“You seem to believe in God. But this atheist is a non-believer. He was

initially very rigid with his idea that as God and individual soul are not

sensed by sense organs, their reality/existence is imaginary only and not truth.

I argued with him and as a result of it the atheist agreed the reality/existence

of certain entities which cannot be comprehended by application of sense organs.

Still he wants proof for the existence of God.

He accepted experimenting, observation and inference. Also he accepts

entities proved in the scientific scriptures produced by scientists as a result

of their experiments, observation and inferences. How is that you can make him

to believe in God or in individual soul?”

 

The “Believer” in God first said,

 

“We can see that when one does good gets rewards and if one does bad

deeds gets punishments. This fear and belief makes the man to comprehend the

presence of God”.

 

The atheist got irritated. He said, " I have seen many culprits enjoying and many

kind-hearted people suffering. "

 

The “Believer” in God was silent for a minute and then addressed the

atheist,

 

“Let me prove to you the presence of God in the way you accept. You have

accepted that there are certain things, which are beyond the comprehension of

our sense organs. You accept their reality by experiments, observation, and

inference. Scientific scriptures based on these are valid for you. Let me come

to your own way and prove the existence of God " .

I got surprised. The “Believer” in God continued his argument with the

atheist as follows:

 

“See my dear atheist friend! Have you not seen a potter making a pot! On seeing

the pot, don’t you think that even for making a small pot, a potter is there

present as the cause and therefore why cannot this great universe have a great

cause like this! That cause of this universe is God! This is my inference based

on observation. Many people have written their ideas about God in this way. You

can accept any form/name for him. Therefore the man made scriptural authority is

also there in this regard.”

 

The “Believer” in God was happy thinking that he has proved the existence of God

in the way in which the atheist agreed. The atheist looked very confused when

the “Believer” in God used the Anumaana pramanam.

 

 

I addressed both of them and said,

“I do not agree with both of you!”

On hearing my words, not only the atheist got shocked but also the

“Believer” in God got shocked equally. The atheist said

“Why is that you do not agree with the words of the “Believer” in God. He seems

to be right as he has inferred on observation! He also says that there is man

made scriptures regarding this in this manner”

The “Believer” in God angrily said

“You look like a God-fearing person and argued with the atheist but now why are

you not agreeing with my words? If this is not the way to prove the existence of

God, then in what way you can prove it? Are you also another atheist?”

 

 

Andal Tiruvadigale Saranam

Madhava Ramanuja dasan.