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andavan From: sampath_govindachariDate: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:24:43 +0530RE: Fw: Difficulty faced by lone elders in getting suitable food.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Haribol !Acharyan Thiruvadigale Saranam ! Respected Swamins!An interesting topic indeed. The writer had gone through the various opinions rendered by Bhagavathas. Before we try to plunge in to any sort of a suggestion for one of the minor requirements at the advanced age , sorry to say this and please note that self also belongs to the very senior Citizen category as on date , what we can do is to try to get back to our earlier Tradition of staying together as one family in the true sense of the word. Kindly note that it is the present senior citizens and one /two of the earlier generations are purely responsible for this splitting of the family to pieces in the wake of modernization and advancement of technology and a dire personal need to satisfy self ego of some members of the family . It is not that we all are not aware of the proverbs such as "Koodi irunthaal kodi nanmai" , "Agathin azhagu mugathil theriyum" etc. etc. But it is all due to some social maniacs , who were quite adamant in holding to their guns and also a highly selfish and possessive attitude within the family ,that led to this problem. In the present century , when humans can easily plan a trip to moon , this is not a big unsolvable major issue at all , BUT REQUIRES A HONEST COMMITMENT TO THE SYSTEM , ATTEMPT BASED ON IMPLICIT FAITH IN THE PAST SET UP AND A WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT OTHERS VIEW POINT AND CLEVERNESS AT ANY TIME AND A DETERMINED MIND TO SHED THE SELF EGO IN TOTO . OTHERWISE THIS ONLY WOULD BE A NICE TOPIC FOR EXCHANGE OF IDEAS IN THE INTERNET , WHICH CAN GO ON FOR ANOTHER CENTURY. KINDLY PARDON THE WRITER FOR THIS FORCEFUL STATEMENT. The earlier joint family system had lots of advantages , out of which , feeding the elderly person in the family was one of a minor issue. We had some one to look to inside the family, who knew the total strength and weakness of the family and could give a proper impartial solution to many major issues in running a family. We also had the greatest advantage of pulling up the resources of the family for common benefit of all. We also had a reasonable healthy competitiveness within the family for every ones growth in knowledge and position . We had the greatest strength of backing on the social status of the family background. Above all we could develop the habit of an empathy in ourselves and a good give and take policy in life, which could make us a better individual and live as a human in society. Our Smrithis , Sththis , Ithihasa Puranas , Vedas and the sermons of the Lord through the Bhagavad Gita , always showed us that it would be only wise for a human to live as a human and respect another ATMA in society . While we talk of these in many platforms vociferously , we tend to forget the essence , the moment we get down from the platform. Sri Krishna has vividly narrated how Kama and Krodha attacks the brain and destroys the peace of mind. We read it regularly and listen to lectures offered on these . But in action we do the very opposit. Unless we try to change ourselves from within , all these vagaries would exist. Some one suggested starting of a good kitchen to feed the elders , who had taken to Bharanyasam on payment basis . Have we reached that stage of toleration and accepatance of the quality of food that could be served there , since all are humans and no one wants to run a system on loss basis. If that person determines to price it up for a good quality , do we have that bent of mind not to criticize the service and question the integrity. Come on. We are all born ' doubting Thomases' and it could take a long to change ourselves. Again some body praised the services of the Mutts and other social organizations . Can anyone guess the amounts of criticism the organizers face day in and day out there . Reason is that we still have to develop the habit of having IMPLICIT FAITH on persons who have service oriented mind , probably due to our past experience . Many places like Mutts / Ashrams / social organizations do serve food for all FREE OF CHARGE , even today as a service to humanity. But one should go and watch how people behave in getting that food. What hardships the fellow citizens go through and the hurdles the organizers face can be appreciated only when you see the service. We still have not developed that habit of forming ques , empathy and concern for others, discipline etc. Self is not trying to be critical or sinical on these. But what is being emphasized is to prepare the homeground and basement strongly , befoe we try to build a super structure , since this change of system has come into existence only because of us and one / two generations ahead. The only SILVER LINE IN THE CLOUD IS , some people have started thinking seriously on these issues and Lord Krishna would definitely help the human race to find a solution to this problem , created by humans only , in the near future. Sarve Jana Sukhino Bhavanthu .Adiyen , Ramanuja dasan - G.Sampath. --- On Tue, 23/12/08, narayan <narayan (AT) tka-jbm (DOT) thyssenkrupp.com> wrote:

narayan <narayan (AT) tka-jbm (DOT) thyssenkrupp.com>RE: Fw: Difficulty faced by lone elders in getting suitable food.andavan Date: Tuesday, 23 December, 2008, 2:26 PM

 

 

 

Namaskaram Swamino!!

 

It is only our greediness to go for big things and surplus in qty (especially in materialistic world)

keping the parents and children apart.

Secondly every one wants financial independence. It is agreed. But none

wants to pool the energy and release in regulated steam. Thereby duplication

of expenses, energy spending level all can be eliminated.

 

Thirdly, listening to eldest person of family in toto is found only in few places.

 

Like this we can list so many things we do which should not be done,

and finally cry that our elders are suffering.

 

I am sure all of you would agree that, we will suffer for doing

all those which should not be done. We will also suffer for not doing

the ones which ought to be done.

 

What my humble prayers to all is, first lets see how we can bring back the

system of joint family system. For this we all should be prepared mentally

to shoulder responsibility for everyone in the family and listen to the elderly

people. It is also duty casted on elderly people that, their behaviour and

judgements should be totally balanced, and reflects true justice and

not lopsided. It should reflect their acharyatvam.

 

Just by merely paying off to cooks, will be able to solve the problem for temporarily.

 

All members of our community should try and address the solution to this situation

and arrest the any more happening of the same by implementing small and

continuous steps in their respective families. And I think, LORD himself will

show so much of mercy that, all elderly people are protected to follow the

acharam in full and no need to ask any help from others.

 

As the quote in Tamil goes

"Agathin azhagu mugathil theriyum", all pacth up work done out side the house

without any repair inside the house is futile.

 

It is not a simple task. But still it is a very much possible one.

 

We all have forgotten the best Tamil quote

"Koodi irunthaal kodi nanmai" . Lets revive it and give a heavenly

atmosphere to our elders so that they will not have any obstruction

in observing their utmost achaara anushtanams and nithya karmas.

 

Any apacharam done because of the above writing by me, may please be

pardoned. This is only my opinion and not that of the moderator.

 

dAsan

T R LAKSHMINARAYANAN

 

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andavan@ .com [andavan] On Behalf Of soundararajan desikanFriday, December 19, 2008 10:11 AMandavan@ .com; Srinidhi Andavan AsramamCc: Madhavan Ramabhadran Fw: Difficulty faced by lone elders in getting suitable food.

 

 

 

 

Dear Swamin Kindly see the forwarded messageThe aged sishyas ,residing in flats/apartments/ houses not only in Chennai City but also in many places are forced to take food from unwanted persons. These elders would have undertaken " Bharanyasam" and in that case, it is very sorry state of affairs Sarvam Sree Hayagreeva preeyathaamDasanUruppattur SoundararajanSrikainkarya--- On Thu, 18/12/08, Madhavan <rammadhav > wrote:

Madhavan <rammadhav >Difficulty faced by lone elders in getting suitable food.oppiliappanThursday, 18 December, 2008, 9:01 PM

 

 

 

 

 

SRI : ||

 

Hare Krishna.

 

Dear Bhagavatha Friends,

 

Sub: Supplying Suitable Food Regularly To Needy Elders.

 

Adiyen's PraNamams to you all.

 

I wish to share my thought on a very vital problem faced by very many elders who live alone, esp in cities. There are many people who are unable to prepare food due to old age and physical inability.

 

They are unable to accept food prepared in hotels , mess etc due to obvious reasons like AchAram, unacceptable ingredients, vegetables, preparations etc. It is a miserable state and we can see very many elders struggling due to this problem.

 

Those who can afford to engage cooks, do not get suitable people and even when they get, they face difficulties like inability to control them, frequent absenting and their suddenly stopping to come to work etc.

 

It is worthwhile to think of organising preparation of food by suitable cooks and supply the same at the residences of the needy old people, which is acceptable to them.

 

Our Matams like Ahobila Mutt, Andavan Ashram, Vanamamalai Matam, Embar Mutt, Sankara Matams etc are doing great service to the community by constructing Marriage Halls, palces for stay in Divya Desams,and for performing Apara Karyam and Thiruvadhyanam etc.

 

Likewise the Mutts can seriously consider commencing the services under able guidance and supervision of service oriented men & women, the matter of preparing regular food and supplying to the needy people at their residences against payment.

 

The elders will be very happy & thankful and will be extremely benefitted by this service, as otherwise they are forced to practically starve.Also food prepared by such sources will be readily acceptable to the elders.Besides such institutions hv the resources to embark on the service , like men, money, place etc.

 

The children of these elders will also be greatly relieved of the problem and will in turn be obliged to lend their financial support also.

 

Even interested individuals or group of people who are willing to render this noble service with love & care can think of starting this service of providing food to needy elders on a regular basis.

 

This will be a very noble and excellent service to our community and the needy seniors will be much obliged if such a service of providing acceptable food is made available.

 

The population of such seniors is fast increasing and it is time for us to find a suitable solution to help those who very much need the same.

 

With regards, I am placing this matter for consideration of all concerned, on behalf of many suffering elders

 

Dasan,

 

Kombur Vankeepuram Madhavan.

 

Please Help The Needy as it is Service To God.

 

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