FW: Srirangam Srimath Anadavan Veda Patasalai

November 13, 2009

FWD..

shrirr; andavan CC: rvkateshFrom: ramanaravamudhanDate: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:21:06 -0800RE: Srirangam Srimath Anadavan Veda Patasalai

Srimathe Ranga Ramanuja Maha Desikaya Namaha: Dear Swamin: Please accept my greetings and respects. Some of the concerns you have highlighted are real but let us please not diminish the astonishing accomplishment of Veda Patasala Initiative of our Acharyan. Let us focus on how to celebrate this one accomplishment today and how to continue to contribute to it . The fact is that Veda Patasalas and number of Vidhyaarthis have grown significantly (as compared to 10 years ago). The statistics given by Shri RR mama is clear to see. It is not a small accomplishment. Shri. RR mama (who has been a dynamic human force to implement Acharyan's Anugraham for our Veda PataSala project), has often wondered how this growth was all possible. If you read his past posts he always admits that he considered the projects to be too heavy a lift. But magically they have seen success. Our Veda Patasala initiative is one of the manifestations of Acharyan Anugraham. adiyen is confident that Veda Patasala will grow and propagate shine all around.We need to widen and deepen the involvement from all around. They could be Vidhyaarthis, Teachers or Contributors or Abhimanis. We need all of them. We can get this involvement in many ways (here are some thoughts; several of these are being done already)1) Teach the students computer science and programming; (already in place at some centers). Create applications for their Sanskrit knowledge. So parents and students can see what they can do after graduation. A Vedic Scholar should be able to serve as a professional like any one else. 2) Introduce them to Medical sciences research; There is enormous potential here. I have heard of some partnerships with Medical Research but more is possible.3) Create association with top notch academic institutions so our students can find avenues to channel their rare talent; Teach our students Mathematics and get associations with Math based centers.4) Vyakarna for example has great applications to computers; It is well recognized that Sanskrit is the closest natural language to computers. Introduce Computational Linguistics to our Veda patasala students. We could easily become a premier center for this area. 5) Even NASA has recognized the potential of Sanskrit for knowledge representation in computers. Several applications are being talked about.6) Get Students to think of the famous Traveling Knight's problem and how Swami Desikan's Padhuka Sahasram solves it elegantly. 7) Get the Vidhyaarthis involved in game of Chess which requires concentration & energy just like recitation of Vedas and Prabhandham. Host competitions and reward them. May be we have a few Champions out there.8) If you are a business leader, give them special priority in selection process for jobs. 9) If you are temple trustee or a person of influence, receive our Veda Patasala Vidhyaarthis with respect they deserve. Do your best to make sure they are compensated well for their service. 10) Visit our Veda Patasalas, see the Vidhyaarthis in action and appreciate the good work that has been done with enormous effort.11) Energize the Patasala Alumini association and build their fraternity so they look out for each other. Invite old students of our Veda Patasalas and reward them for their accomplishments in life. 12) Finally contribute financially as per your capabilities.Institutions create Students and Students constitute Institutions !It takes a lot of people, resources to get these done. Once such involvement happens, more & more will be interested to become vidhyaarthis. adiyen is a devotee of our Acharyan; no other credentials even to write such a long wish list.Swami Desikan asserts in Padhuka Sahasram, that Bhagavath Sankalpam and Acharya Anugraham are The two steps we need to move forward. Our Acharyan will show us the path to progress, that meets the demands of the time. Perumal and Thaaayar will bless us. Bhagavath Sankalpam and Acharya Anugraham are like the Heart and Lung of our existence. Fashion is a function of time. It changes all the time. adiyen recently heard that learning Sanskrit has become a fashion in Delhi. A foreign Professor from a top school speaks nice tamizh !! one of the student is researching on VittuChithan Viyan Godhai Srimath Sri Andal !!! Look at the rich Ebooks that are get published each day for free, visit the websites that publish almost all slokas and pasurams in all scripts, record Divya Prabhandham in Sandhai format and offer it free. All these are Kainkaryam (yatha shakthi). It is a fast breeder reaction. It will catch up.I accept that "Deva Kaaryam Seidhu Vedam Payindru Vaazhum" towns like in the golden ages of PeriAazhwaar are not there today. Swami Naamazhwaar asserts, and assures us that "Seigai payan uNbenum yaane ennum SeivaarGalai seivenum yaane ennum...thiram kaati andru aivarai kaathene ennum" . Let us pray to our Acharyan and Poorvacharyas to guide us. Let us celebrate the Veda Patasala accomplishment of our Ashramam. Dasan Aravamudhan--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Sundar Rajan <sundarrajanj16 > wrote:

Sundar Rajan <sundarrajanj16 >RE: Srirangam Srimath Anadavan Veda Patasalai"RR" <shrirr >, andavan Cc: "RV" <rvkatesh (AT) (DOT) co.in>Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 1:53 AM

Dasan RR Mama, I agree with you completely that SN is getting the things done. However I disagree that kainkariyaparas will be available in the coming years. In 1999 people spoke about atleast marriages within Iyengar families and they still spoke about sending their wards to Sri Ahobila Math kind of school along with Vedic Education for Adiyanam. In the last decade are so what is the ratio of kalappu thirumanam. So many instances. Today, talk of the day is giving international education only, swimming, music, karate, instruments, cooking etc etc., Who will actually go for Madapalli kainkariyam? How many of them are aware of Pithala Paathiram and the ways of washing them and suitable for usage for perumal kainkariyam. How many kids wear dothi today? How many of them know how to wash and dry clothes? How many of the youngsters are aware of Salagrama Moorthigal, Thirvaaradhanam, Divya Desa Kainkariyam, Aacharya Kainkariyam. How many of them are without Devathanthira sammandam? Andal saadicha pole "unnidathil naangal unnnai aruthithu vanthom" How many of them today are doing perumal kainkariyam for satisfaction? Very few. Majority of them are for palan. Kainkariyam anubhavam pradanam - there are only countable number. What are their ages? How long they're going to be in Boologam? I am asking this question even to me? What I am doing is also wrong. Kainkariyam is the only aspect which will give me satisfaction. Sorry If I am being wrong in posting this.

RR <shrirr (AT) gmail (DOT) com>11 November 2009 14:28andavan@ .comCc: RV <rvkatesh (AT) (DOT) co.in>; Sundar Rajan <sundarrajanj16@ gmail.com>Re: Srirangam Srimath Anadavan Veda Patasalai

Lively exchange of ideas, noble thoughts & appropriate worries!!

Adiyen has been involved for some years in the Patasalas and would submit the following:

Let us first realise that we are NOT administering the Patasalas - SN is!

"Swasmai swapreethiye Swayam - Eva kArayathi/Swayam Eva kArithavan",

This is not a cliche but an actual fact,

Sriman NArAyaNa has to Bless the efforts & He has been doing so all these ten years+

In 1999-2000, we had 45 Vidyarthis in One Patasala & spent rs. 9.99 lakhs,

In 2008-09, we had 280+ Vidyarthis in 10 Patasalas with a budget of Rs. 85.00 Lakhs!! SN has shown us the ways & means - not our efforts!

In 2014-15, we will have 400-450 Vidyarthis in 15 Patasalas & we will spend Rs. 160.00 Lakhs,

Sriman Narayana {SN} will again the way - do not worry.

Dear Gopalan - do not worry, the Kainkaryaparars issue was always there,

Today we have more Kainkaryaparars than what we had in 1999 - & - of better quality too {with 1 exception},

HH has been generous in Compensation and we will continue to get good kainkaryaparars in future also - No issue,

Adiyen submits his appreciation of RV & Gopalan in their fund raising efforts - SN will give them the inspiration - God Bless You All!

Warmest Regards

Daasan RR

____________ _________ ____

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Sundar Rajan <sundarrajanj16@ gmail.com> wrote:

Adopting a kid is a very good thought. HH Srimad Andavan sishyas should also think about sending their wards to Veda Patashalas run by HH Srimad Andavan. This will give happiness to our great Aacharyan.HH Srimad Andavan is very patient and kind in hearing what our problems? Are we reciprocating? ?? What are his worries? Are we trying to understand that? How many of us are worried about the fact that 10 years down the line we don't have people for Kainkariyam.Million $ Question Regards Sundar

RV <rvkatesh (AT) (DOT) co.in>11 November 2009 10:37RV <rvkatesh (AT) (DOT) co.in>[The entire original message is not included]

November 13, 2009

FWD..

andavan From: narasimhanklDate: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:14:42 -0800Re: Srirangam Srimath Anadavan Veda Patasalai

Dear Sirs,If you are interested in setting up anything in Medicine I am willing to quit my current assignment( I must get some Time to quit) in developing the place as I would like to do something for Andavan Ashramam.It should not be only Ayurveda as I have no training in Ayurveda . Me and my wife are both allopathic professionals and we do offer voluntary service to other ashrams.There is a lot of scope for good work as Shankara Netralaya was started by Mahaperiyaval.In my humble opinion the community of Iyengars can survive the present scientific progress only by allowing scientific knowledge to the Vedic education as well.All the Vidyarthi's are having mobile phones and they cannot be prevented from knowing what is it and how it works.This may not be liked by many.In Fact When I first offered to Thirukudanthai andavan to work for the Ashram , HH said go and learn surgery and be successful.His profound blessings has helped us all the time .There has to be a 10-15 year plan for developmental activities and we can rope in the best professionals who are willing to work for the ashram and that way ashram will make a great name in the community at large.There is no dearth of professionals who want to help but there is lack of Good organizations. adiyen Would like to stop at this and hope that HH kindly looks at this idea and blesses our effort.DasanNarasimhan

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Raman Aravamudhan <ramanaravamudhan > wrote:

Srimathe Ranga Ramanuja Maha Desikaya Namaha: Dear Swamin: Please accept my greetings and respects. Some of the concerns you have highlighted are real but let us please not diminish the astonishing accomplishment of Veda Patasala Initiative of our Acharyan. Let us focus on how to celebrate this one accomplishment today and how to continue to contribute to it . The fact is that Veda Patasalas and number of Vidhyaarthis have grown significantly (as compared to 10 years ago). The statistics given by Shri RR mama is clear to see. It is not a small accomplishment. Shri. RR mama (who has been a dynamic human force to implement Acharyan's Anugraham for our Veda PataSala project), has often wondered how this growth was all possible. If you read his past posts he always admits that he considered the projects to be too heavy a lift. But magically they have seen success. Our Veda Patasala initiative is one of the manifestations of Acharyan Anugraham. adiyen is confident that Veda Patasala will grow and propagate shine all around.We need to widen and deepen the involvement from all around. They could be Vidhyaarthis, Teachers or Contributors or Abhimanis. We need all of them. We can get this involvement in many ways (here are some thoughts; several of these are being done already)1) Teach the students computer science and programming; (already in place at some centers). Create applications for their Sanskrit knowledge. So parents and students can see what they can do after graduation. A Vedic Scholar should be able to serve as a professional like any one else. 2) Introduce them to Medical sciences research; There is enormous potential here. I have heard of some partnerships with Medical Research but more is possible.3) Create association with top notch academic institutions so our students can find avenues to channel their rare talent; Teach our students Mathematics and get associations with Math based centers.4) Vyakarna for example has great applications to computers; It is well recognized that Sanskrit is the closest natural language to computers. Introduce Computational Linguistics to our Veda patasala students. We could easily become a premier center for this area. 5) Even NASA has recognized the potential of Sanskrit for knowledge representation in computers. Several applications are being talked about.6) Get Students to think of the famous Traveling Knight's problem and how Swami Desikan's Padhuka Sahasram solves it elegantly. 7) Get the Vidhyaarthis involved in game of Chess which requires concentration & energy just like recitation of Vedas and Prabhandham. Host competitions and reward them. May be we have a few Champions out there.8) If you are a business leader, give them special priority in selection process for jobs. 9) If you are temple trustee or a person of influence, receive our Veda Patasala Vidhyaarthis with respect they deserve. Do your best to make sure they are compensated well for their service. 10) Visit our Veda Patasalas, see the Vidhyaarthis in action and appreciate the good work that has been done with enormous effort.11) Energize the Patasala Alumini association and build their fraternity so they look out for each other. Invite old students of our Veda Patasalas and reward them for their accomplishments in life. 12) Finally contribute financially as per your capabilities.Institutions create Students and Students constitute Institutions !It takes a lot of people, resources to get these done. Once such involvement happens, more & more will be interested to become vidhyaarthis. adiyen is a devotee of our Acharyan; no other credentials even to write such a long wish list.Swami Desikan asserts in Padhuka Sahasram, that Bhagavath Sankalpam and Acharya Anugraham are The two steps we need to move forward. Our Acharyan will show us the path to progress, that meets the demands of the time. Perumal and Thaaayar will bless us. Bhagavath Sankalpam and Acharya Anugraham are like the Heart and Lung of our existence. Fashion is a function of time. It changes all the time. adiyen recently heard that learning Sanskrit has become a fashion in Delhi. A foreign Professor from a top school speaks nice tamizh !! one of the student is researching on VittuChithan Viyan Godhai Srimath Sri Andal !!! Look at the rich Ebooks that are get published each day for free, visit the websites that publish almost all slokas and pasurams in all scripts, record Divya Prabhandham in Sandhai format and offer it free. All these are Kainkaryam (yatha shakthi). It is a fast breeder reaction. It will catch up.I accept that "Deva Kaaryam Seidhu Vedam Payindru Vaazhum" towns like in the golden ages of PeriAazhwaar are not there today. Swami Naamazhwaar asserts, and assures us that "Seigai payan uNbenum yaane ennum SeivaarGalai seivenum yaane ennum...thiram kaati andru aivarai kaathene ennum" . Let us pray to our Acharyan and Poorvacharyas to guide us. Let us celebrate the Veda Patasala accomplishment of our Ashramam. Dasan Aravamudhan--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Sundar Rajan <sundarrajanj16 > wrote:

Sundar Rajan <sundarrajanj16 >RE: Srirangam Srimath Anadavan Veda Patasalai"RR" <shrirr >, andavan

Cc: "RV" <rvkatesh (AT) (DOT) co.in>Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 1:53 AM

Dasan RR Mama, I agree with you completely that SN is getting the things done. However I disagree that kainkariyaparas will be available in the coming years. In 1999 people spoke about atleast marriages within Iyengar families and they still spoke about sending their wards to Sri Ahobila Math kind of school along with Vedic Education for Adiyanam. In the last decade are so what is the ratio of kalappu thirumanam. So many instances. Today, talk of the day is giving international education only, swimming, music, karate, instruments, cooking etc etc., Who will actually go for Madapalli kainkariyam? How many of them are aware of Pithala Paathiram and the ways of washing them and suitable for usage for perumal kainkariyam. How many kids wear dothi today? How many of them know how to wash and dry clothes? How many of the youngsters are aware of Salagrama Moorthigal, Thirvaaradhanam, Divya Desa Kainkariyam, Aacharya Kainkariyam. How many of them are without Devathanthira sammandam? Andal saadicha pole "unnidathil naangal unnnai aruthithu vanthom" How many of them today are doing perumal kainkariyam for satisfaction? Very few. Majority of them are for palan. Kainkariyam anubhavam pradanam - there are only countable number. What are their ages? How long they're going to be in Boologam? I am asking this question even to me? What I am doing is also wrong. Kainkariyam is the only aspect which will give me satisfaction. Sorry If I am being wrong in posting this.

RR <shrirr (AT) gmail (DOT) com>11 November 2009 14:28andavan@ .comCc: RV <rvkatesh (AT) (DOT) co.in>; Sundar Rajan <sundarrajanj16@ gmail.com>Re: Srirangam Srimath Anadavan Veda Patasalai

Lively exchange of ideas, noble thoughts & appropriate worries!!

Adiyen has been involved for some years in the Patasalas and would submit the following:

Let us first realise that we are NOT administering the Patasalas - SN is!

"Swasmai swapreethiye Swayam - Eva kArayathi/Swayam Eva kArithavan",

This is not a cliche but an actual fact,

Sriman NArAyaNa has to Bless the efforts & He has been doing so all these ten years+

In 1999-2000, we had 45 Vidyarthis in One Patasala & spent rs. 9.99 lakhs,

In 2008-09, we had 280+ Vidyarthis in 10 Patasalas with a budget of Rs. 85.00 Lakhs!! SN has shown us the ways & means - not our efforts!

In 2014-15, we will have 400-450 Vidyarthis in 15 Patasalas & we will spend Rs. 160.00 Lakhs,

Sriman Narayana {SN} will again the way - do not worry.

Dear Gopalan - do not worry, the Kainkaryaparars issue was always there,

Today we have more Kainkaryaparars than what we had in 1999 - & - of better quality too {with 1 exception},

HH has been generous in Compensation and we will continue to get good kainkaryaparars in future also - No issue,

Adiyen submits his appreciation of RV & Gopalan in their fund raising efforts - SN will give them the inspiration - God Bless You All!

Warmest Regards

Daasan RR

____________ _________ ____

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Sundar Rajan <sundarrajanj16@ gmail.com> wrote:

Adopting a kid is a very good thought. HH Srimad Andavan sishyas should also think about sending their wards to Veda Patashalas run by HH Srimad Andavan. This will give happiness to our great Aacharyan.HH Srimad Andavan is very patient and kind in hearing what our problems? Are we reciprocating? ?? What are his worries? Are we trying to understand that? How many of us are worried about the fact that 10 years down the line we don't have people for Kainkariyam.Million $ Question Regards Sundar

RV <rvkatesh (AT) (DOT) co.in>11 November 2009 10:37RV <rvkatesh (AT) (DOT) co.in>[The entire original message is not included]

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